Isaiah Washington Update: Despite Apologies, Actor's Job Not Safe Yet Comments (Page 2)
33 Comments
joy
January 25th, 2007 12:22 AM
I guess there are rifts and problems on the set of GA way, way beyond our knowledge maybe this "faggot" thing are not the only mistake IW had committed. Ive read in TWOP its TR who's leaving the show. But i also don't like IW to get fired from GA coz he is essential in the development of the story. and I alos don't like TR leaving! but i think the most popular couple is not burke and tina...its mere/derek...not only in the US but all over the world...here in the philippines MERE/derek tandem are among the favorites.
Burke Backer
January 24th, 2007 10:08 PM
Hi. Just found this on Extratv.com and thought I would share it with you. Their poll seems to have similar results to ours on greysanatomyinsider.
"Isaiah Washington gets GLAAD, as his apology tour continues.
The embattled "Grey's Anatomy" star just met with the leaders of two gay rights groups to address his now infamous slur.
"He is genuinely sorry and genuinely remorseful," said GLAAD President Neil Giuliano.
Giuliano also told "Extra" that at the culmination of his one-hour meeting with Isaiah, the actor pledged to work with gay community leaders in the future, to "help us educate people a broader number of people about this hateful language," Giuliano explained.
Meanwhile, other celebrities around the globe just can't stop talking about the "Grey's" scandal.
"Sometimes people from the outside make it a little bigger than what things are," Salma Hayek said at the Producers Guild Awards.
At Monday night's Trumpet Awards in Las Vegas, which celebrate African
Burke Backer
January 24th, 2007 9:43 PM
On another note, and I realize this is not the right place to post this, but I thought it was really nice and that people might see it here. The FEA is offering to let teachers see Freedom Writers free for one week. I think that is pretty cool. Here is the information about it in case ay of you are or know of any teachers.
Great news - AMC Theaters and Paramount Pictures have agreed to let
teachers across the country see "Freedom Writers" for free for one week!
Between January 26 and February 1, AMC Theaters will be celebrating
teachers and spreading the Freedom Writers' message by allowing teachers
nationwide to see "Freedom Writers!"
Please see AMC's press release for more information at
http://www.amctheatres.com/promos/freedomwriters/ .
Jay
January 24th, 2007 9:17 PM
I agree. I have seen the word faggot written in the press, and heard it on television. So what their say is that if you use the word "faggot" instead of saying the "f-word", then that makes you a homophobic.
On another note, Mr. Washington is trying to heal and so is the cast, what we need to do is let them. I, too, wouldn't continue to watch if he wasn't on it. You know, sometimes when we try to be so self-righteous, it comes back to bite us in the behind.
Burke Backer
January 24th, 2007 8:02 PM
You might also print the article in the Chicago Sun Times that quoted a reliable source and higher up at ABC who said Isaiah would not be fired. This was also yesterday. Since Kristen's post yesterday that you are citing above, Isaiah has sought help for what ever they deemed he needed help with. He is doing everythiing he can do to appease the haters in the public and the decision makes at ABC Touchstone. He deserves an opportunity to prove his sincerity and follow through. Purplemerder, I will not watch the show if he is fired. It is that simple. I may be only one person, but there are many, many who primarily watch for this character and his relationship with Cristina. The show would be completely ruined for us if he goes. I enjoy the other characters, but not enough to remain a fan. GA would move on. It would just move on without me. It is interesting that it is fine with some fans that as long as the characters that they like remain on the show they are willing to sacr
purplemerder
January 24th, 2007 7:29 PM
I am with you Carol....i watch the show for the entire cast not just one
Lynn
January 24th, 2007 5:58 PM
Didn't Disney have some problems a few years ago at the theme parks - that they were accused of being homophobic? If that is correct, then they may feel the need to over-react to compensate...
I'm not taking sides, just wondering if anyone else remembers that taking place....
luvthisshow
January 24th, 2007 2:58 PM
i can't believe it has come to this. i feel sad that we may not have the pleasure of watching a wonderful actor on our favorite show any longer. it will not be the same for sure. i agree with you purple that it may be out of shonda's hands at this point and that is a shame. with the amount of publicity this has gotten, i think it will take a miracle for IW to keep his job.
also, i feel compelled to say that to a certain degree i find some merit to stephanie bates comments and Grey, that does not make me or her a homophobe. the situation is not as cut and dry as that.
Carol
January 24th, 2007 2:56 PM
Adding: editing my last comment: Isiah Washington is NOT the be-all and end-all of GA. Time passes, life moves on, so will GA, regardless of whether IW stays or goes.
Carol
January 24th, 2007 2:53 PM
YES, I would be saying the same thing if PD had done this. I would say the same thing regardless of WHO it was! If the discrimination policy of Disney was violated, it wouldn't matter who it was, IW, anyone--they should be released. If it were any of us, you can be darn sure we would already be gone! The attorneys are just being careful at this time. Maybe they will 'find' a way to release IW, maybe they won't.
Yes, IW is human and made a mistake, but he ALSO KNEW the rules to being a part of the Disney conglomerate.
Actors and actresses adapt and adjust to changing scripts, they film movies which take months, often working 12-14 hour days, they have change all around them all the time. Sandra Oh and everyone on GA can adapt to changes. After all, they are being paid very good money to pretend to be other people. If they can't adapt to sudden changes, then acting is not the job for them. If IW does leave GA, you guys are making too much of a big deal about finding the 'right'
Rev. Franklin D. Callaway
January 24th, 2007 2:48 PM
You can call Black people "niggers" and you can call women "bitches" and "hos" but if you call a homosexual a "faggot" you are crazy and need psychological counseling? You people are sick. You need counseling. But then, I guess you can't serve God and money.
karen
January 24th, 2007 2:10 PM
and more importantly,
who will fill his spot if he is fired? I mean, i know the main characters are Mer/Der. But the most popular couple in this show is Burke and Cristina. If they replace him with another actor, will this actor share the same tension, drama, chemistry with Sandra Oh?
I think if IW is fired, Sandra Oh will get hurt too..because you just can't blindly put 2 actors who have no chemistry together...
karen
January 24th, 2007 2:04 PM
God, why did IW have to say those stupid things at Golden Globe. Why couldn't he just be quiet about it...
But firing him WILL hurt the show..I guess if they want the show to drop, then that is the right thing to do.
I mean firing him, will hurt everybody who is involved in the show, because the show is just NOT the same without him...
I mean who actually watches ER when George Clooney left?
purplemerder
January 24th, 2007 2:00 PM
Hey Rose....i have missed you....i am going to go with whatever happens...i am not saying he should or shouldn't be fired....the show would not be the same without him...but if he is fired it will not be the decision of shondra or the cast...it is way over their heads now...i believe it will be disney's decision so i find it unfair to say that people will not watch the show if he is fired or he isn't fired...there are other cast members and shondra is a genious for coming up with this show...so why make the others suffer..
TexasGreysFan
January 24th, 2007 1:48 PM
I'm right there with you Rose. I have also signed the petition to keep him on the show. GA would not be the same. I am also disappointed that TR decided to air this stuff on Ellen instead of discussing with IW privately. From the article, it appears the "wedding" may be Burktina, i.e., life changing events for Dr. Burke!
Grey
January 24th, 2007 1:03 PM
Stephanie Bates, speaking as a true homophobe.
rose
January 24th, 2007 1:01 PM
Isaiah Washington did not utter an insult at the GG, he uttered a tactless attempt at correction. The media were just as responsible, for making a mountain out of this incident and bringing it up relentlessly. GA would never be GA without Burke, and especially without Burktina. Absolutely no one could replace this actor and it would be an insult to GA fans to try. I have signed the petition and hope it keeps him on the show.
Stephanie Bates
January 24th, 2007 12:46 PM
If any one needs to be fired it is Knight for causing division among the cast. Knight should have talk with Washington or took his problem (Washington's comments) to producers. To go on Ellen's show to air the cast dirty laundry is very cowardly way to handle any situation. Knight behavior is so child like that for ABC to even consider firing Washington would be an injustice to the show and the fans. Keep Washington.
Nic
January 24th, 2007 11:54 AM
Carol, I wonder if you'll be saying the same thing if it was PD involved. Forgive and forget. He's already trying his best.
Carol
January 24th, 2007 11:31 AM
I posted last week that IW should be fired. As much as I like his acting, it doesn't make any difference what we as fans, want or what we think. What happens next is, obviously, not under our control. Disney has an obligation to uphold it's discrimination policy (IF in fact IW is found to have violated it). Disney has to treat every employee the same, the fame of IW or the ratings of GA makes no difference. It is a shame IW did this--to himself and the show. Though I don't know what was said by Shonda Rimes the FIRST time this happened last October, if she had said 'If anything like this happens again, you'll be fired', this second time probably wouldn't have happened, IW would have known better than to say anything.
IF IW is fired, the ratings will probably go down for a while. We as fans should expect that. The key is to get a very good actor to fill the spot. Then there will be an adjustment period. I have no idea who would be available for GA if it came to this. I doubt Disne
Allie
January 24th, 2007 11:03 AM
I don't respect Washington as a person as much as I used to. I hate the fact that this might break up the dynamics of the cast, and how they used to feel like it was just a big family on the set. I just hope he can do everything he can to make things right, because I would hate to see such a great show go downhill and even get cut early because of something like this. I don't ever want this show to end! Three seasons is not enough!!
hot4dempsey
January 24th, 2007 10:53 AM
fire him now!!!!
Grey's Anatomy Rules!
January 24th, 2007 10:45 AM
Gosh I really hope that Isaiah stays on the show! It would be hard to watch Grey's Anatomy without Dr. BURKE on it. Any how, how would they do it, in the show, what would happen? JEEZ i really hope T.R. and Isaiah work this out and we won't have to worry about it any more!
Meredith: People change, but they don't change.
January 25th, 2007 12:22 AM
I guess there are rifts and problems on the set of GA way, way beyond our knowledge maybe this "faggot" thing are not the only mistake IW had committed. Ive read in TWOP its TR who's leaving the show. But i also don't like IW to get fired from GA coz he is essential in the development of the story. and I alos don't like TR leaving! but i think the most popular couple is not burke and tina...its mere/derek...not only in the US but all over the world...here in the philippines MERE/derek tandem are among the favorites.
January 24th, 2007 10:08 PM
Hi. Just found this on Extratv.com and thought I would share it with you. Their poll seems to have similar results to ours on greysanatomyinsider.
"Isaiah Washington gets GLAAD, as his apology tour continues.
The embattled "Grey's Anatomy" star just met with the leaders of two gay rights groups to address his now infamous slur.
"He is genuinely sorry and genuinely remorseful," said GLAAD President Neil Giuliano.
Giuliano also told "Extra" that at the culmination of his one-hour meeting with Isaiah, the actor pledged to work with gay community leaders in the future, to "help us educate people a broader number of people about this hateful language," Giuliano explained.
Meanwhile, other celebrities around the globe just can't stop talking about the "Grey's" scandal.
"Sometimes people from the outside make it a little bigger than what things are," Salma Hayek said at the Producers Guild Awards.
At Monday night's Trumpet Awards in Las Vegas, which celebrate African
January 24th, 2007 9:43 PM
On another note, and I realize this is not the right place to post this, but I thought it was really nice and that people might see it here. The FEA is offering to let teachers see Freedom Writers free for one week. I think that is pretty cool. Here is the information about it in case ay of you are or know of any teachers.
Great news - AMC Theaters and Paramount Pictures have agreed to let
teachers across the country see "Freedom Writers" for free for one week!
Between January 26 and February 1, AMC Theaters will be celebrating
teachers and spreading the Freedom Writers' message by allowing teachers
nationwide to see "Freedom Writers!"
Please see AMC's press release for more information at
http://www.amctheatres.com/promos/freedomwriters/ .
January 24th, 2007 9:17 PM
I agree. I have seen the word faggot written in the press, and heard it on television. So what their say is that if you use the word "faggot" instead of saying the "f-word", then that makes you a homophobic.
On another note, Mr. Washington is trying to heal and so is the cast, what we need to do is let them. I, too, wouldn't continue to watch if he wasn't on it. You know, sometimes when we try to be so self-righteous, it comes back to bite us in the behind.
January 24th, 2007 8:02 PM
You might also print the article in the Chicago Sun Times that quoted a reliable source and higher up at ABC who said Isaiah would not be fired. This was also yesterday. Since Kristen's post yesterday that you are citing above, Isaiah has sought help for what ever they deemed he needed help with. He is doing everythiing he can do to appease the haters in the public and the decision makes at ABC Touchstone. He deserves an opportunity to prove his sincerity and follow through. Purplemerder, I will not watch the show if he is fired. It is that simple. I may be only one person, but there are many, many who primarily watch for this character and his relationship with Cristina. The show would be completely ruined for us if he goes. I enjoy the other characters, but not enough to remain a fan. GA would move on. It would just move on without me. It is interesting that it is fine with some fans that as long as the characters that they like remain on the show they are willing to sacr
January 24th, 2007 7:29 PM
I am with you Carol....i watch the show for the entire cast not just one
January 24th, 2007 5:58 PM
Didn't Disney have some problems a few years ago at the theme parks - that they were accused of being homophobic? If that is correct, then they may feel the need to over-react to compensate...
I'm not taking sides, just wondering if anyone else remembers that taking place....
January 24th, 2007 2:58 PM
i can't believe it has come to this. i feel sad that we may not have the pleasure of watching a wonderful actor on our favorite show any longer. it will not be the same for sure. i agree with you purple that it may be out of shonda's hands at this point and that is a shame. with the amount of publicity this has gotten, i think it will take a miracle for IW to keep his job.
also, i feel compelled to say that to a certain degree i find some merit to stephanie bates comments and Grey, that does not make me or her a homophobe. the situation is not as cut and dry as that.
January 24th, 2007 2:56 PM
Adding: editing my last comment: Isiah Washington is NOT the be-all and end-all of GA. Time passes, life moves on, so will GA, regardless of whether IW stays or goes.
January 24th, 2007 2:53 PM
YES, I would be saying the same thing if PD had done this. I would say the same thing regardless of WHO it was! If the discrimination policy of Disney was violated, it wouldn't matter who it was, IW, anyone--they should be released. If it were any of us, you can be darn sure we would already be gone! The attorneys are just being careful at this time. Maybe they will 'find' a way to release IW, maybe they won't.
Yes, IW is human and made a mistake, but he ALSO KNEW the rules to being a part of the Disney conglomerate.
Actors and actresses adapt and adjust to changing scripts, they film movies which take months, often working 12-14 hour days, they have change all around them all the time. Sandra Oh and everyone on GA can adapt to changes. After all, they are being paid very good money to pretend to be other people. If they can't adapt to sudden changes, then acting is not the job for them. If IW does leave GA, you guys are making too much of a big deal about finding the 'right'
January 24th, 2007 2:48 PM
You can call Black people "niggers" and you can call women "bitches" and "hos" but if you call a homosexual a "faggot" you are crazy and need psychological counseling? You people are sick. You need counseling. But then, I guess you can't serve God and money.
January 24th, 2007 2:10 PM
and more importantly,
who will fill his spot if he is fired? I mean, i know the main characters are Mer/Der. But the most popular couple in this show is Burke and Cristina. If they replace him with another actor, will this actor share the same tension, drama, chemistry with Sandra Oh?
I think if IW is fired, Sandra Oh will get hurt too..because you just can't blindly put 2 actors who have no chemistry together...
January 24th, 2007 2:04 PM
God, why did IW have to say those stupid things at Golden Globe. Why couldn't he just be quiet about it...
But firing him WILL hurt the show..I guess if they want the show to drop, then that is the right thing to do.
I mean firing him, will hurt everybody who is involved in the show, because the show is just NOT the same without him...
I mean who actually watches ER when George Clooney left?
January 24th, 2007 2:00 PM
Hey Rose....i have missed you....i am going to go with whatever happens...i am not saying he should or shouldn't be fired....the show would not be the same without him...but if he is fired it will not be the decision of shondra or the cast...it is way over their heads now...i believe it will be disney's decision so i find it unfair to say that people will not watch the show if he is fired or he isn't fired...there are other cast members and shondra is a genious for coming up with this show...so why make the others suffer..
January 24th, 2007 1:48 PM
I'm right there with you Rose. I have also signed the petition to keep him on the show. GA would not be the same. I am also disappointed that TR decided to air this stuff on Ellen instead of discussing with IW privately. From the article, it appears the "wedding" may be Burktina, i.e., life changing events for Dr. Burke!
January 24th, 2007 1:03 PM
Stephanie Bates, speaking as a true homophobe.
January 24th, 2007 1:01 PM
Isaiah Washington did not utter an insult at the GG, he uttered a tactless attempt at correction. The media were just as responsible, for making a mountain out of this incident and bringing it up relentlessly. GA would never be GA without Burke, and especially without Burktina. Absolutely no one could replace this actor and it would be an insult to GA fans to try. I have signed the petition and hope it keeps him on the show.
January 24th, 2007 12:46 PM
If any one needs to be fired it is Knight for causing division among the cast. Knight should have talk with Washington or took his problem (Washington's comments) to producers. To go on Ellen's show to air the cast dirty laundry is very cowardly way to handle any situation. Knight behavior is so child like that for ABC to even consider firing Washington would be an injustice to the show and the fans. Keep Washington.
January 24th, 2007 11:54 AM
Carol, I wonder if you'll be saying the same thing if it was PD involved. Forgive and forget. He's already trying his best.
January 24th, 2007 11:31 AM
I posted last week that IW should be fired. As much as I like his acting, it doesn't make any difference what we as fans, want or what we think. What happens next is, obviously, not under our control. Disney has an obligation to uphold it's discrimination policy (IF in fact IW is found to have violated it). Disney has to treat every employee the same, the fame of IW or the ratings of GA makes no difference. It is a shame IW did this--to himself and the show. Though I don't know what was said by Shonda Rimes the FIRST time this happened last October, if she had said 'If anything like this happens again, you'll be fired', this second time probably wouldn't have happened, IW would have known better than to say anything.
IF IW is fired, the ratings will probably go down for a while. We as fans should expect that. The key is to get a very good actor to fill the spot. Then there will be an adjustment period. I have no idea who would be available for GA if it came to this. I doubt Disne
January 24th, 2007 11:03 AM
I don't respect Washington as a person as much as I used to. I hate the fact that this might break up the dynamics of the cast, and how they used to feel like it was just a big family on the set. I just hope he can do everything he can to make things right, because I would hate to see such a great show go downhill and even get cut early because of something like this. I don't ever want this show to end! Three seasons is not enough!!
January 24th, 2007 10:53 AM
fire him now!!!!
January 24th, 2007 10:45 AM
Gosh I really hope that Isaiah stays on the show! It would be hard to watch Grey's Anatomy without Dr. BURKE on it. Any how, how would they do it, in the show, what would happen? JEEZ i really hope T.R. and Isaiah work this out and we won't have to worry about it any more!