Katherine Heigl Criticizes Remark, Would "Throw Down" For T.R. Knight Comments (Page 2)
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Margo
January 20th, 2007 11:16 PM
Burke,
I love Grey's since it started....and will continue to love it...regardless..because there is a field that we can explore, and make it believable.
Margo
January 20th, 2007 9:50 PM
Burke
Transcript ??????? Did you not see the Ellen show?? If you did, you would of been able to form a better opinion!!! From all the things that you say on this website and the length of them.....you have too much time on your hands sweetheart, maybe you should get a life.
Burke Backer
January 20th, 2007 6:17 PM
Hi Margo. I have read the transcript of TRs interview on Ellen, I have just not listened to the recording of it. There is a big difference between overhearing a comment said during an argument when emotions are high and someone is angry, than having the comment made directly to you with intent to hurt and humiliiate you. I think Isaiah was saying he did not call TR a faggot and I believe him. I don't believe I said TR imagined it. I asked if since it wasn't said to TR if he might have misheard. Have you seen the tape of the Golden Globes? It was not Isaiah that brought it up. They were asked immediately by Ted of Eonline about "Isaiah's homophobic slur". Isaiah was responding to a question asked about him personally. I agree. It was completely "No class at all", but it was not Isaiah's doing to begin with it was Ted's. I am sorry Isaiah responded, but understand why he felt he needed to.
Margo
January 20th, 2007 12:26 AM
Burke Backer
Another thing, you obviously are not very deep...if you could not read T.R. Knight's interview on Ellen's show's....then you really have no right to comment on him at all. Yes, I believe that IW called him a faggot...and no I don't believe that T.R. Knight imagined it, and yes I believe it caused him pain, but that should of been the end of it. But Instead IW was way out of line for bring it up again at the Golden Glodes. NO CLASS AT ALL
Margo
January 19th, 2007 11:56 PM
Burke Backer
Yes, I truly believe that IW would appear to be the kind of person that would say that, and deny it. When they received the Golden Globe award, what was that!!!! He made it all about him...I admire him as an actor, but I can't do the same as a person. He is self indulgent!!! I have two wonderful twin step daughters and one of them is gay and she holds a very high profile job in the police force in the U.S. and she is the first to say that men that are gay have it the worst..and fagot is not even humane in referring to another individual.
purplemerder
January 18th, 2007 10:28 PM
thanks burke backer - i appreciate that you can voice your opinions and not totally drag someone through the mud...i wish some other posters could do that....
great show tonight...you know what when i was watching the scenes with burke and george i was wishing and hoping that they could be that way in real life...
Kelly
January 18th, 2007 8:59 PM
Katherine Heigl needs to mind her own business. She is making TR look like a punk and that has nothing to do with him being gay. He is a man, he needed to handle it that same day. Then if IW wanted to say it to his face he could have. I don't beleive he said it to him or about him. If he would have been on time to work he would have known. This was about him running late (like he is all of the time). He was wrong for going on Ellen months later. It should have been dropped. Katherine needs to mind her own business, she is not the best actor.
Burke Backer
January 18th, 2007 6:08 PM
I agree with so many on this list who have said, once again, lets move on and concentrate on the show. I am so appalled by all of it really. It ruins the fantasy of Seattle Grace to have TR making claims on Ellen and Isaiah making denials on the Golden Globes, and Katherine siding with TR and threatening to "take out" Isaiah. It is just so divisive. Thank God Sandra Oh and Patrick Dempsey and Justin Chambers and the others know when to keep quiet.
Purplemerder, you are such a nice person and I know you never want anyone to have hurt feelings. I just want you to know how much I appreciate that as a fellow frequent poster on this website. And thanks Bonnie and Say Uncle. I am really trying to understand this because I believe in my heart that these are all good people who keep hurting each other unintentionally.
Everyone will make up their mind about this depending on who they personally like. I can't tell you how much I wish Isaiah had just not responded to the reporter
purplemerder
January 18th, 2007 2:50 PM
Burke Backer - then he should have said I didn't call TR a F... but i did make the comment and it was wrong....
but its over...so I am done with it.....i want to move on...... :)
much love for you burke backer.......i just want to focus on the show......
Say Uncle
January 18th, 2007 5:44 AM
Burke Backer, we have the same thing in mind: Isaiah MIGHT indeed have used the "F" word, but it wasn't necessarily said to TR directly.
I think Isaiah would think that if he would publicly deny calling TR a faggot, TR would most likely speak up and call Isaiah a big, fat liar (It's not like he'd pay TR a million bucks to say nothing about the incident). Would Isaiah want that? I guess not. No one in his right mind would want to embarass himself, right?
I also think that Katherine Heigl's remark just added more gravity to the whole thing (peace, everyone, this is just an OPINION). TR and Isaiah could have done without her saying that.
All these would cause nothing but problems for the show. Just when they've just won Best Drama Series (which emphasizes how succesful the show has been), this horrible thing happens. I love the show so much, and this really bothers me especially now that Isaiah being fired from the show is talked about.
I may be somehow sound biased because I'
Bonnie M
January 18th, 2007 5:20 AM
Thank you Burke Backer that's why your one of my favorites. Your the best you tell it like it is.
Burke Backer
January 17th, 2007 11:23 PM
Steve, It is exaggerations and misrepresentations by people in the media that have made this argument back in October into something so major to begin with. It is because of inflammatory word choice that the media has made it into something unforgivable and we are buying into it.
"if you watch the clip on the HFPA web site you will see the looks of horror on the cast face."
I watched it and they were looking down with no expression at all. I certainly did not see any looks of horror. Do you believe they had looks of horror on their faces because the Eonline reporter said so? Are you that guillible? I watched them they did not. He can exaggerate, but it does not make it true. Did they look uncomfortable? Were they taken by surprise? They really looked kind of blank.
" Kudos to Katie for having the guys to say something. She rocks and was just looking out for her friend who was visibly upset."
I watched the tape and you could not even see TR on it when Isaiah made hi
Burke Backer
January 17th, 2007 10:52 PM
Purplemerder, Doesn't it depend on whose interpretation of what happened you believe?
"It makes it really bad that he did indeed say it and then publically denied it."
Isaiah did not deny using the word faggot. He denied calling TR Knight a faggot. I think they are both being truthful from their own perspective.
Burke Backer
January 17th, 2007 10:19 PM
Homnoir, You said:
"the most ironic thing here to me is that Isaih Washington portrayed a gay character in Spike Lee's "Get On The Bus" ! (male lover included)
So it might be fair to say: It takes one to know one.
Huh ?"
Hillary Swank played a man and won an Oscar for it. Does that mean she is one? Dustin Hoffman played a woman. Does that mean he is one? Anthony Hopkins played a serial killer. Does that mean he is one? These are actors. Hopefully they can inhabit a character very different from themselves. (By the way, Isaiah is spelled like this.)
Burke Backer
January 17th, 2007 10:14 PM
Margo, You said:
"I truly believe that Washington did make that comment and it was out of line....T.R. does not appear to be the kind of person that would make something like that up!! "
So you are saying that Isaiah does appear to be the kind of person who would call a cast mate a faggot and then lie about it? Because I have to tell you he sounded very sincere in his interview with Access Hollywood after the Golden Globes when he said he would never, ever do that.
I think they are both telling the truth from their perspective. Isaiah wasn't addressing TR. He was not calling him a homophobic slur. If you are to believe TR, Isaiah may have used the word in anger during his argument with Patrick. That does not mean he called TR that word or set out to in anyway hurt TR. In Isaiah's mind, if not in yours, he sees a difference. He was not talking to TR at all, didn't know he was around, would never knowingly have hurt him in that way. Does that excuse using the word? N
Burke Backer
January 17th, 2007 9:40 PM
Hey, Shelby. You made the statement:
"I love Katherine Heigl she will do anything to make sure a fellow cast mate is not hurt"
Do you think Isaiah was hurt by her comments? Is he not her fellow-cast mate also?
I think Katherine Heigl believes TR Knight is not adult enough to handle his own problems. She should back off and let TR address the issue as he did today on Ellen. Her temper and off the cuff remarks were as hurtful as anything Isaiah said in his own defense. I am not a fan of KH. I think she is also a loose cannon. Did she lie on Ellen right after the incident in October when she said it was just a testosterone thing and that everything was fine? Is she a liar? I don't hear anyone calling for her firing because she insulted a cast member on national television by saying she would "take him hout" and lied about the incident on the Ellen show.
I love Burke. I enjoy Isaiah and TR's performances on GA. But the whole thing is devisive. It is causing all of
lindsey_c
January 17th, 2007 9:07 PM
on a light note, i love that katherine and TR are as good of friends off screens as their characters on screen are! it's cool!
mj
January 17th, 2007 6:54 PM
Why go back to grade school when I can read some of these post and feel like I there.
I don't know if he made it up on not, but if he came around the corner, did he hear everything. Did he add things he thought were said. And, why did he decide to talk now. It couldn't have been what happened at the GG, because IW was trying to soothe the situation, not calll him a name. It may not have come out the right way, but his intentions was to soothe the situation, even KH admitted to that. They even interviewed KH and asked her if he [TR] was hurt, she stated she didn't know, but yet she went on to speculate. I still feel that had she not made that statment, things would have been very different. Why stir up problems. She even when on to say that she thinks they can work it out because their family. I think she's just a bit fickle, and also think the reason he said the things that he did was because she was upset.
Margo
January 17th, 2007 5:55 PM
Please, enough is enough....I truly believe that Washington did make that comment and it was out of line...(go back to grade school you need to learn a few things) T.R. does not appear to be the kind of person that would make something like that up!! Why would he??? He hadn't even come out yet!! If Washington makes another statement on this again he should be let go from the show. Ignorance is not exceptable on T.V. or in real life.
mj
January 17th, 2007 5:29 PM
No, it only goes to show that he's not homophobic. Because if he felt that strongly about it, it wouldn't have done it.
Homnoir
January 17th, 2007 5:06 PM
the most ironic thing here to me is that Isaih Washington portrayed a gay character in Spike Lee's "Get On The Bus" ! (male lover included)
So it might be fair to say: It takes one to know one.
Huh ?
luvthisshow
January 17th, 2007 5:02 PM
like katie said he needs to stop making public comments. just let it die down and people will forget about it. i know i pretty much did until he started it back up again. he really just made it worse for himself. he must be having some awful pangs of guilt to be rehashing it.
purplemerder
January 17th, 2007 4:18 PM
I am with you luvthisshow about not caring if they get a long...in a way. I am just so disappointed that IW said it the way he said it and in the wrong place...which it seems has made TR tell Ellen that he did indeed call him a "f". I mean TR and PD had until this point not made the word a big deal...but since IW said it in that way it made it worse again. It makes it really bad that he did indeed say it and then publically denied it.
Shelby
January 17th, 2007 12:18 PM
I love Katherine Heigl she will do anything to make sure a fellow cast mate is not hurt but any wase i dont like Isaiah he has to much of burks attitude when i was watching that my mouth just droped and i look at my mom and said, "Did he really just say that?"
mj
January 17th, 2007 9:43 AM
Say Uncle, I agree with your post. I saw the interview, and I looked at the faces of the cast, and I didn't see any shock on their faces. In fact, the only reason anything is being said is because of her comment, and I don't think she knows what she's upset about. This is just getting ridiculous.
Meredith: Get this baby out of me safely and you can have whatever you want.
January 20th, 2007 11:16 PM
Burke,
I love Grey's since it started....and will continue to love it...regardless..because there is a field that we can explore, and make it believable.
January 20th, 2007 9:50 PM
Burke
Transcript ??????? Did you not see the Ellen show?? If you did, you would of been able to form a better opinion!!! From all the things that you say on this website and the length of them.....you have too much time on your hands sweetheart, maybe you should get a life.
January 20th, 2007 6:17 PM
Hi Margo. I have read the transcript of TRs interview on Ellen, I have just not listened to the recording of it. There is a big difference between overhearing a comment said during an argument when emotions are high and someone is angry, than having the comment made directly to you with intent to hurt and humiliiate you. I think Isaiah was saying he did not call TR a faggot and I believe him. I don't believe I said TR imagined it. I asked if since it wasn't said to TR if he might have misheard. Have you seen the tape of the Golden Globes? It was not Isaiah that brought it up. They were asked immediately by Ted of Eonline about "Isaiah's homophobic slur". Isaiah was responding to a question asked about him personally. I agree. It was completely "No class at all", but it was not Isaiah's doing to begin with it was Ted's. I am sorry Isaiah responded, but understand why he felt he needed to.
January 20th, 2007 12:26 AM
Burke Backer
Another thing, you obviously are not very deep...if you could not read T.R. Knight's interview on Ellen's show's....then you really have no right to comment on him at all. Yes, I believe that IW called him a faggot...and no I don't believe that T.R. Knight imagined it, and yes I believe it caused him pain, but that should of been the end of it. But Instead IW was way out of line for bring it up again at the Golden Glodes. NO CLASS AT ALL
January 19th, 2007 11:56 PM
Burke Backer
Yes, I truly believe that IW would appear to be the kind of person that would say that, and deny it. When they received the Golden Globe award, what was that!!!! He made it all about him...I admire him as an actor, but I can't do the same as a person. He is self indulgent!!! I have two wonderful twin step daughters and one of them is gay and she holds a very high profile job in the police force in the U.S. and she is the first to say that men that are gay have it the worst..and fagot is not even humane in referring to another individual.
January 18th, 2007 10:28 PM
thanks burke backer - i appreciate that you can voice your opinions and not totally drag someone through the mud...i wish some other posters could do that....
great show tonight...you know what when i was watching the scenes with burke and george i was wishing and hoping that they could be that way in real life...
January 18th, 2007 8:59 PM
Katherine Heigl needs to mind her own business. She is making TR look like a punk and that has nothing to do with him being gay. He is a man, he needed to handle it that same day. Then if IW wanted to say it to his face he could have. I don't beleive he said it to him or about him. If he would have been on time to work he would have known. This was about him running late (like he is all of the time). He was wrong for going on Ellen months later. It should have been dropped. Katherine needs to mind her own business, she is not the best actor.
January 18th, 2007 6:08 PM
I agree with so many on this list who have said, once again, lets move on and concentrate on the show. I am so appalled by all of it really. It ruins the fantasy of Seattle Grace to have TR making claims on Ellen and Isaiah making denials on the Golden Globes, and Katherine siding with TR and threatening to "take out" Isaiah. It is just so divisive. Thank God Sandra Oh and Patrick Dempsey and Justin Chambers and the others know when to keep quiet.
Purplemerder, you are such a nice person and I know you never want anyone to have hurt feelings. I just want you to know how much I appreciate that as a fellow frequent poster on this website. And thanks Bonnie and Say Uncle. I am really trying to understand this because I believe in my heart that these are all good people who keep hurting each other unintentionally.
Everyone will make up their mind about this depending on who they personally like. I can't tell you how much I wish Isaiah had just not responded to the reporter
January 18th, 2007 2:50 PM
Burke Backer - then he should have said I didn't call TR a F... but i did make the comment and it was wrong....
but its over...so I am done with it.....i want to move on...... :)
much love for you burke backer.......i just want to focus on the show......
January 18th, 2007 5:44 AM
Burke Backer, we have the same thing in mind: Isaiah MIGHT indeed have used the "F" word, but it wasn't necessarily said to TR directly.
I think Isaiah would think that if he would publicly deny calling TR a faggot, TR would most likely speak up and call Isaiah a big, fat liar (It's not like he'd pay TR a million bucks to say nothing about the incident). Would Isaiah want that? I guess not. No one in his right mind would want to embarass himself, right?
I also think that Katherine Heigl's remark just added more gravity to the whole thing (peace, everyone, this is just an OPINION). TR and Isaiah could have done without her saying that.
All these would cause nothing but problems for the show. Just when they've just won Best Drama Series (which emphasizes how succesful the show has been), this horrible thing happens. I love the show so much, and this really bothers me especially now that Isaiah being fired from the show is talked about.
I may be somehow sound biased because I'
January 18th, 2007 5:20 AM
Thank you Burke Backer that's why your one of my favorites. Your the best you tell it like it is.
January 17th, 2007 11:23 PM
Steve, It is exaggerations and misrepresentations by people in the media that have made this argument back in October into something so major to begin with. It is because of inflammatory word choice that the media has made it into something unforgivable and we are buying into it.
"if you watch the clip on the HFPA web site you will see the looks of horror on the cast face."
I watched it and they were looking down with no expression at all. I certainly did not see any looks of horror. Do you believe they had looks of horror on their faces because the Eonline reporter said so? Are you that guillible? I watched them they did not. He can exaggerate, but it does not make it true. Did they look uncomfortable? Were they taken by surprise? They really looked kind of blank.
" Kudos to Katie for having the guys to say something. She rocks and was just looking out for her friend who was visibly upset."
I watched the tape and you could not even see TR on it when Isaiah made hi
January 17th, 2007 10:52 PM
Purplemerder, Doesn't it depend on whose interpretation of what happened you believe?
"It makes it really bad that he did indeed say it and then publically denied it."
Isaiah did not deny using the word faggot. He denied calling TR Knight a faggot. I think they are both being truthful from their own perspective.
January 17th, 2007 10:19 PM
Homnoir, You said:
"the most ironic thing here to me is that Isaih Washington portrayed a gay character in Spike Lee's "Get On The Bus" ! (male lover included)
So it might be fair to say: It takes one to know one.
Huh ?"
Hillary Swank played a man and won an Oscar for it. Does that mean she is one? Dustin Hoffman played a woman. Does that mean he is one? Anthony Hopkins played a serial killer. Does that mean he is one? These are actors. Hopefully they can inhabit a character very different from themselves. (By the way, Isaiah is spelled like this.)
January 17th, 2007 10:14 PM
Margo, You said:
"I truly believe that Washington did make that comment and it was out of line....T.R. does not appear to be the kind of person that would make something like that up!! "
So you are saying that Isaiah does appear to be the kind of person who would call a cast mate a faggot and then lie about it? Because I have to tell you he sounded very sincere in his interview with Access Hollywood after the Golden Globes when he said he would never, ever do that.
I think they are both telling the truth from their perspective. Isaiah wasn't addressing TR. He was not calling him a homophobic slur. If you are to believe TR, Isaiah may have used the word in anger during his argument with Patrick. That does not mean he called TR that word or set out to in anyway hurt TR. In Isaiah's mind, if not in yours, he sees a difference. He was not talking to TR at all, didn't know he was around, would never knowingly have hurt him in that way. Does that excuse using the word? N
January 17th, 2007 9:40 PM
Hey, Shelby. You made the statement:
"I love Katherine Heigl she will do anything to make sure a fellow cast mate is not hurt"
Do you think Isaiah was hurt by her comments? Is he not her fellow-cast mate also?
I think Katherine Heigl believes TR Knight is not adult enough to handle his own problems. She should back off and let TR address the issue as he did today on Ellen. Her temper and off the cuff remarks were as hurtful as anything Isaiah said in his own defense. I am not a fan of KH. I think she is also a loose cannon. Did she lie on Ellen right after the incident in October when she said it was just a testosterone thing and that everything was fine? Is she a liar? I don't hear anyone calling for her firing because she insulted a cast member on national television by saying she would "take him hout" and lied about the incident on the Ellen show.
I love Burke. I enjoy Isaiah and TR's performances on GA. But the whole thing is devisive. It is causing all of
January 17th, 2007 9:07 PM
on a light note, i love that katherine and TR are as good of friends off screens as their characters on screen are! it's cool!
January 17th, 2007 6:54 PM
Why go back to grade school when I can read some of these post and feel like I there.
I don't know if he made it up on not, but if he came around the corner, did he hear everything. Did he add things he thought were said. And, why did he decide to talk now. It couldn't have been what happened at the GG, because IW was trying to soothe the situation, not calll him a name. It may not have come out the right way, but his intentions was to soothe the situation, even KH admitted to that. They even interviewed KH and asked her if he [TR] was hurt, she stated she didn't know, but yet she went on to speculate. I still feel that had she not made that statment, things would have been very different. Why stir up problems. She even when on to say that she thinks they can work it out because their family. I think she's just a bit fickle, and also think the reason he said the things that he did was because she was upset.
January 17th, 2007 5:55 PM
Please, enough is enough....I truly believe that Washington did make that comment and it was out of line...(go back to grade school you need to learn a few things) T.R. does not appear to be the kind of person that would make something like that up!! Why would he??? He hadn't even come out yet!! If Washington makes another statement on this again he should be let go from the show. Ignorance is not exceptable on T.V. or in real life.
January 17th, 2007 5:29 PM
No, it only goes to show that he's not homophobic. Because if he felt that strongly about it, it wouldn't have done it.
January 17th, 2007 5:06 PM
the most ironic thing here to me is that Isaih Washington portrayed a gay character in Spike Lee's "Get On The Bus" ! (male lover included)
So it might be fair to say: It takes one to know one.
Huh ?
January 17th, 2007 5:02 PM
like katie said he needs to stop making public comments. just let it die down and people will forget about it. i know i pretty much did until he started it back up again. he really just made it worse for himself. he must be having some awful pangs of guilt to be rehashing it.
January 17th, 2007 4:18 PM
I am with you luvthisshow about not caring if they get a long...in a way. I am just so disappointed that IW said it the way he said it and in the wrong place...which it seems has made TR tell Ellen that he did indeed call him a "f". I mean TR and PD had until this point not made the word a big deal...but since IW said it in that way it made it worse again. It makes it really bad that he did indeed say it and then publically denied it.
January 17th, 2007 12:18 PM
I love Katherine Heigl she will do anything to make sure a fellow cast mate is not hurt but any wase i dont like Isaiah he has to much of burks attitude when i was watching that my mouth just droped and i look at my mom and said, "Did he really just say that?"
January 17th, 2007 9:43 AM
Say Uncle, I agree with your post. I saw the interview, and I looked at the faces of the cast, and I didn't see any shock on their faces. In fact, the only reason anything is being said is because of her comment, and I don't think she knows what she's upset about. This is just getting ridiculous.