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June 27th, 2007 2:17 PM
Carol, I am not so emotionally involved that I cannot be objective; I am merely trying to understand where each of the parties in this sorry game is coming from. Look at the facts, remove all the conjecture, rumours and lies and all I see is that IW has lost the most (for now at least) HE is the victim - his job, livelihood, reputation shredded because of a leaked in-house fight that somehow became a national story. Stupid regrettable words said in a heated moment, quickly forgotten by the two people involved (PD & IW) but used by an opportunistic man (who just happens to be gay) who was dissatisfied with his character and saw this as a chance to do something about it. Aided and abetted by his fellow opportunist KH. So yes I support him 100% in his bid to clear his name. IW can be outspoken, yes but that does not make him the villain in this tale. I fully agree with what Burke Backer said - bringing in PD to perhaps add weight to his comments - to show that from way back TRK might
June 27th, 2007 2:10 PM
Look at all the disinformation in this thread, mostly stated by TRK backers. IW did not get into a fight with PD,TR knight(despite his Ellen interview comments) was not there when the statement was made, IW didnt dog PD in anyway in his interveiw he even said PD was one of his best friends on the set. Why bring PD into it? Well if no one will beleive him why not mention someone else who was there who would have nothing to gain by telling the truth. As for comparing the slur IW made to the nword is just stupid. Being homosexual is a lifestyle choice. a person could even be born gay but they still have a choice of being openly gay or not. Also no one is being hosed down in the streets and havin dogs called on them for the gay rights movement. Dont get me wrong i respect anyone who fight for a just cause. But a simple fact is that from the moment anyone sees you they know your black theres no hiding it or the pain and deaths that word had led to just like no black person would compare the
June 27th, 2007 1:33 PM
It is so very sad what the world we live in has come to. Morals are slim to none, and people treat each other like scum. Please, please, please let us stop and think what a beautiful world this could be if we only learn to treat each other with respect, and common decency. Regardless of skin color, sexual orientation, religious beliefs, this world is large enough for all of us to get along. I know this is all wishful thinking, but a good thought.
June 27th, 2007 11:45 AM
I followed the whole story from the beginning and yes TR was not on the set when it happened and during Oprah's visit PD and IW clearly said that the problem was solved. TR changed his attitude after the GG (see Burke Backer explanation of the GG story) because he knew he was visiting Ellen a few days later? Like someone mentioned how strange that his GA career took off after the "slur" went public. And if ABC has fired so many black actors why isn't the black community making more fuss about this?
Who is "protecting" TR inside ABC management? (and I am watching my words)
June 27th, 2007 11:09 AM
People! I think you should all need to read the whole interview before judging IW! =/
I'm sad to see how this site uses only one small part of what Isaiah said to mislead readers! What happened, Insiders?????
PLEASE read the WHOLE interview before you judge.
It's much different than the impression given after you read what it partly said in this site. IW didnt blame PD or drag him to put any blame to him. He had good reasons as to why PD is right all along. Some people pointed to me that PD and TR's scenes together always look weird. I'm not sure about you guys, but I kinda see it too. I hope to see the truths come out at Larry King.
AND I'm seriously so upset about this site!!!! X/
June 27th, 2007 10:08 AM
when did they say that tr wasnt there on the set? and he said, on the ellen show, that isaiah reffered to him as a faggot and everyone heard it, and the way he said it, it just doesnt seem like a lie to me, honestly who would you be inclined to believe more at this point from watching interviews with both men, tr knight or isaiah washington, and i heard that this wasnt the first time isaiah has gotten in trouble, something happened onset of something he did years ago
June 27th, 2007 10:03 AM
I can't wait for the Larry King interview, hopefully, it will shed more light on the subject because he is in person rather than written words. I know people who have worked with Washington and think he is an upstanding man. GLAAD members have come out and totally supported Washington. One member even said Washington has done more for the gay community than Knight ever has. Knight has been lieing since the beginning. Knight was a struggling actor before Grey's and best believe he will do anything to keep and further his career - even if it means double crossing someone over. Heigl's career was pretty much crap before Grey's too (in Roswell she was horrible!!). I do think Heigl has proven herself (now) to be a good actress but her mouthing off was a media stunt too. The media will print anything that makes people watch their program or buy their print copies. Grey's cast members are not coming out because ABC will sue them. Morgan came out because he has no ties to ABC. ABC h
June 27th, 2007 9:52 AM
Christina Obvouisly your white, the n word, and nappy head hoes is spoken by whte americans with no big hoop dee doo, white american has done so long you all think nothing of it!!!!
June 27th, 2007 9:12 AM
YALL JUST NEED TO LEAVE MY MAN ALONE!!!! HE AIN'T NO PUNK!!! THAT'S WHAT THE PROBLEM IS!!!
June 27th, 2007 8:03 AM
Ok first thing, if T.R., Patrick or any other cast member had called Isiah the n-wrod, there would have been no hesitation in firing them to keep them from saying in front of a national audience at the Golden Globes. Obvouisly he deserved to be fired, and he is as stubborn as all the reports say he is, because he just won't drop it.
June 27th, 2007 8:03 AM
Yes I saw TR on Ellen and he said flat out, "I walked onto the set and heard Isaiah use the f* word to Patrick." But BOTH ISAIAH AND PATRICK HAVE SAID THAT TR WAS NOT ON THE SET THAT DAY!!!! so, personally, i think i am starting to believe Isaiah side of the story more than TR's.
June 27th, 2007 7:21 AM
Right on Nicola !
To Sabrina, not only have you proven that you don't need good judgment to work in PR but it also seems to make you presumptious. How in the world do you know where I work ?
You don't get to decide who can comment.
Whether or not I work in PR, I say IW is a flaming idiot and he should keep quiet!
June 27th, 2007 7:21 AM
Ok dumb question what is TWOP?
June 27th, 2007 7:13 AM
I can't find PD's comments on TWOP - am I blind?!!
June 27th, 2007 7:05 AM
Yeah, I thought it was weird that Isaiah mentioned Patrick, but who knows?? Maybe Patrick gave him the ok?! We don't know, so we can't judge! And Isaiah is the only one talking because he's no longer "loyal" to ABC. Patrick and TR still do, and that's probably why we don't hear much of their story!!
June 27th, 2007 7:02 AM
Y'all might want to see PD's statement from the last few days....it's quoted on the TWOP site...
June 27th, 2007 6:17 AM
did anyone actually see tr knight on the ellen show? you'd notice if he was telling lies, or acting and he clearly wasnt, he was very reluctant in saying the f-word, and he doesnt seem like the kind of guy to be spreading rumors to up his image, its not like hes been in the spotlight long enough to understand it, hes a stage actor for chrissake and nothing like what hollywood is like now, and its not like hes shouted from the rooftops 'isaiah called me a faggot, fire him!', so i hope isaiah just shuts it and gets on with his life and lets tr get on with his
June 27th, 2007 3:31 AM
First of all: Thank you, greysanatomyinsider, that you don't let this die down! All IW's fans are interested in what is going on in his life, even if he is not a part of GAs anymore!
BurkeBacker: thank you, you are always expressing what I feel and think!
June 27th, 2007 2:01 AM
TR Knight said in several interveiws that IW said the f bomb to him directly now they are trying to spin it as "TR never said the remarks were made to him. yet alot of you poeple are still saying IW said it to him directly, also there was never a fist fight and if you beilieve IW story he was egged on by TR knight to confront PD because of his so called egosintrical behavior which lead to the whole incident in the first place. Why is TRK words just so stellar he has blatantly overblown the truth and in some instances flat out lied, he has used this to get ahead he also changed his story in the last few months yet IW who spoke no harsh words about his castmates kept his mouth shut about the incident and who was loyal enough not to speak of this(while other were smiling on TV talking about iit and him) until he was let go, the same man who for over 20 years has worked for gay rights who story has not wavered words draw other words like conspiracy theory and sour grapes.The proof of what
June 27th, 2007 12:32 AM
It's not fair to expect Isaiah to just get over it! He's been carrying this heavy load and protecting everybody for nine months. It's time for him to unload. It's not fair! He's been the whipping boy for ABC and Grey's Execs. He's kept his mouth shout for Patrick Dempsey as well. It's unfortunate that his name has to come up in all this. But, what I don't understand is why people are upset about Dempsey being brought up. Why is it okay for Isaiah to be pissed on and lied on and used and fired and on top of all that still expected to keep his mouth shut about everybody,s part in it. They basically made that man bend over and screwed him with a broken bottle and then gave him an enema with powered glass and alcohol. Then after that still made him be quiet about the whole thing, patted him on the butt like a good little boy and sent him on his merry way. HECK, I'D SING LIKE A DOGGONE PARROT!
June 27th, 2007 12:05 AM
Ugh - I didn't really pay too much attention to this whole fiasco.
IW made a mistake, he got fired. Now it just sounds like he's complaining.
I don't think anything he can do will get him back on GA, so he should just move on and get over it.
If he really wants to get over it, he'd stop drawing attention to it and move on.
Personally, I find this whole thing to be a bit of a botched PR mistake that exploded -- and like Britney in rehab, I could live without hearing more about it.
June 26th, 2007 11:31 PM
WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THIS WORLD!
June 26th, 2007 8:53 PM
I know you are tired of hearing from me, maybe as tired as you are of hearing from Isaiah, but I still want to say thank you to Donna, Didi, Sabrina, Dinofig, and Belgian Grey. Thank you for supporting Isaiah. He needs those of us who believe him to speak out. And, Hot4Dempsey, he is absolutely not trying to bring Patrick down. He is trying to show their solidarity. They respect each other. Have you read any of Patrick's statements about Isaiah? They have all been positive. He didn't make any negative statement about Patrick. All he is saying is that it was TR making it uncomfortable on the set and that Patrick can attest to that. I think he believes that the fans will believe Patrick even if they don't believe him. I hope that Patrick is able to confirm his version of the story, but am sure that Patrick is smart enough not to jeopardize his job on GA. He may have a little more leverage though because without Patrick there is no GA. Truthfully no one else is indispensibl
June 26th, 2007 8:35 PM
Didi, I really support what you are saying, maybe because I feel emotional about this too. He has already been tried and convicted by some of the fans of this show and certainly by some of the gay online gossip columnists. He has little to lose in telling his side of the story. I don't think he has any cause to sue ABC. They may have treated him poorly or failed to protect him from lies and media overreaction, but they do not have to rehire anyone they don't want to rehire. I don't think he has a case there. But if TR Knight purposefully mislead the press and manipulated the facts to promote himself and in the process caused Isaiah to lose millions in income and to suffer great anguist as a result of the media and fan reaction to an inaccurate version of the events of last October, he may have a lawsuit against Knight. I don't think he would have mentioned Patrick Dempsey if he had not spoken with him beforehand to be assured of his support. No one on the cast has said anything
June 26th, 2007 8:16 PM
Isaiah should stop talking about it? He just started talking about it. For 8 months he wasn't allowed to say anything other than that which ABC orchestrated. Now he is able to tell what happened. I have heard only one version of this incident from Isaiah and from Patrick. According to Patrick in an magazine interview he was on a phone in the production office and didn't realize they were waiting for him on the set. Isaiah was angry that Patrick had kept them waiting and called him on it. According to both men they got into a shouting match during which Isaiah told Patrick that he, Isaiah, was not Patrick's little f-word. TR was not there. According to Isaiah the word was not directed at TR nor did it refer to TR. It was a private argument on a closed set. It should never have never gone beyond the people involved, Patrick and Isaiah. TR went to the press with his public coming out in order to call attention to himself and promote his career and let the press believe that t