I'm glad he's gone. Did anyone see the E! interview where he had to stop it to tell them they need to be more organized?! okay and SERIOUSLY?! Going to rehab for saying a word- are you serious?!?! Is it just me, or is everytime a star does something socially unacceptable, they go to rehab?! I mean come on! What he needs is someone to hit him on the head and say, "How about trying to be courteous and respectful?!" I dunno, just my thought. Characterwise, Bourke was alright, although he wasn't my favorite still a good character-
I'll miss Bourke, but not Isaiah.
steffi
June 11th, 2007 10:23 AM
ok, i agree with you. it's pathetic to think that you have right to judge, punish or even forgive(!) Isaiah for the things that he did not do to you.
and btw many talks are there that Patrick Dempsey is not the most saintly angel either. does that mean we should hate him? =/
can anyone help me answer my prev question please? ^scroll ahead 2 posts. =] thanks!
aha
June 11th, 2007 10:13 AM
Sarah: IW is only a goog actor???
Then, if I might ask, how do you explain the awards he won???
And, by the way, do you know either PD or IW? How can you say that one of them is loveable and the other one is not? A person makes a mistake and that makes them unloveable???
Sorry, but your comment is just stupid!
Sarah
June 11th, 2007 9:33 AM
They fired him for a real reason.
I don't think IW is better than PD.
Patrick is a great actor and a lovable man. IW is only a good actor.
steffi
June 11th, 2007 9:31 AM
hi there! can I ask someone how do I join the forum? I keep opening up the forum but there is no way for me to post reply, it isnt clickable! I'd like to post my comments on this in the forum instead. thanks for the help! ^^ yes I couldnt imagine Cristina without Burke. It's like losing a soul. I hate the network for doing that to our fave couple x/
hafsa
June 11th, 2007 8:00 AM
I personally think that season 4 will be really good simply because; Shonda and her team are obviously not stupid, they have already seen, heard and read some if not all the public and fans reactions. I am guessing they have also come to realize what has gone wrong so far with their once upon a time classic writing. Therefore, something tells me they are definately not just going to sit there and do nothing especially when so many fans are threathing to stop watching while some have already lost interest. As for Burke character, yes GA is not going to be the same without him, however, people will get used to it. Just two things though, if by any chance Shonda let something happens btw der and lexie, many fans me included will be very very upset and secondly, STOP THE GIZZIE storyline, it just doenst seem right.
melrox
June 11th, 2007 6:37 AM
I would be feeling equally misused after having been led to think that, should I address my anger problems, it would effect my job status. I would also have to balance that with the cold reality of the option clause on my contract. The comments accusing him of not being sincere due to keeping his job being a motivation are a bit harsh, however. No matter the motivation, he still put himself through the process, at least exposing himself to a growth opportunity.
Do not get me wrong. I think Mr. Washington probably did have a pattern of behavior that made him difficult to work with. I think that as long as it was held 'in house' it was maybe tolerable. But once his problems created public personal problems for others - Mr. Knight - he became a liability for everyone he worked with.
I can empathize with the man, but having worked with a poisonous individual, I can tell you that everyone else is now breathing a sigh of relief.
I wish him well.
ravenigma
June 11th, 2007 12:44 AM
Comment by JB..
Right On!! I totally agree with U!!
Kate
June 10th, 2007 11:33 PM
First off Isaiah never punched patrick dempsey. And no i dont think that this is a race issue. um hello...Shonda the shows creator is an african american woman and has anyone looked at bailey lately? she is too. the chief well hes an african american too. not everything is a race issue people. but the main point here, everyone is saying oh he only did all that stuff to keep his job. well #1 you dont know if thats true. he may have been genuinely sorry. i dont believe any of you were on set when the fight happened were you? you dont know how it happened and who instagated who. but who cares. it was said and now its done he apologized sincere or not. #2 you have to make a living. if my job were in jeopardy id do what i had to to keep it. so even if he didnt mean what he said you cannot fault him for trying to keep his job. #3 i guarentee that AT LEAST 9 out of 10 of all you I.W. bashers are guilty of apologizing when you didnt really mean it. beacuse it was what you had to do at the time
Alessia
June 10th, 2007 10:43 PM
I was in a situatiion similar to this...I had some problems on my job...and was let go at the end of the school year...but unlike IW..nobody told me that there were problems....and I was given some excuse as to why I was let go.
In situations like that...you just need to cut your losses...and realize it's time to move on..even if you weren't planning on it.
And as far as the show...I feel like it's a repeat of the situation with "Gilmore Girls" .....they changed the whole feel of the show when they got new writers...and it seems like this next season of Grey's will be completely different b/c they are changing all the characters....
I just know that the last few episodes were somewhat disappointing and as my mom said "depressing"...they lifted us up with all the romance...and now they're breaking everybody up!!!
Another IW fan...
June 10th, 2007 9:29 PM
I completely 100% agree with joiedevivre. So read whatever they said & here's what I have to say -
Nobody can play the role of Preston Burke better than Isaiah Washington. The show won't be the same without him. How could ABC fire him after he fixed his mistake & moved on? That's ridiculous. I hope IW and ABC work something out so he will come back to the show...I know it's a long shot, but hey, Burke's my favorite character so that's all I can really hope for right now.
The only reason I'm giving Season 4 a shot is to see how Cristina is going to cope with everything that happened. Meredith is just boring & old now [no offense Ellen].
purplemerder
June 10th, 2007 9:15 PM
I find it ridiculus to say that people will not watch the show because IW will not be on it. What if he left on his own.....would you watch the show then. The show will not be the same without him, but it will still be Greys Anatomy and an awesome show........ All the other wonderful actors and actress should not suffer because the decision was made to not have IW on the show anymore. I am sure it was a Disneys choice not shondas.
cadiex
June 10th, 2007 8:57 PM
I will not be buying season 3 or watching season 4 because of this.
horneyelevatorsinSGH
June 10th, 2007 7:37 PM
he should come back for a cameo...
DixieGirl
June 10th, 2007 6:50 PM
I think the thing we tend to lose sight of is - it wasn't just the verbal stuff...I'm of two minds whether that's a firing offense, for Washington, Don Imus, or anyone else....but -
apparently the cause for ABC not renewing was "a history of disruptive behavior" which manifested itself in an altercation with PD and some angry words, including the F word, then the GG thing.
I can see where IW would be angry after taking steps that, however tacitly, ABC had to encourage and expect as part of him continuing in the cast. I'm not sure how much the additional comments by the cast had to do with it - although you've got to admit, if they didn't feel comfortable with him, it would probably show on screen eventually.
I do commend the cast members that were low key about it, though.
Should be interesting....
Debs
June 10th, 2007 2:37 PM
to loving greys all the time. I agree with eveything you´ve saiid espeiially that NO ONE shpuld call TRK names or punch & triangel PD. they both complete & uter respct. In fact the whole cast do. I for one won´t miss IW or Burke.
i Know Derek didn´t take the chief´s job but i hope gets Burke´s Job as cenior atttending. He´d be great at it & it wouldn´t take up too much of his time so Meredith wom´t feel negelcted.
katie
June 10th, 2007 2:28 PM
Looks like Grey's Anatomy will be going down the tube. Too much drama!!!! The fact is Isaiah Washington is the only person who could ever play the role of Preston Burke. I don't blame him for being mad as hell. I mad as hell that he will not be on the show anymore. I guess Katherine and T. R. got what they wanted. It's such a shame because I feel like Isaiah jumped through too many hoops only to be fired anyway. Shame on ABC. People in the past have done much worse. People will watch Season 4, at first for the curiosity, then the ratings will fall.
Bonnie M
June 10th, 2007 2:06 PM
This was not handled right from day one. But than again you never know how your going to react to something until it happens. You have to admit peoples true personalities come out in a situation like this and it's not always nice. I am also afraid it's just going to get worse. It's a shame because it's a great show with an amazing cast and crew.
LovingGrey'sAllTheTime
June 10th, 2007 1:32 PM
I'd rather Washington leave than Knight. I don't want anyone leaving, but if you call T.R. a (*beep*) AND you try to punch Patrick Dempsey, you've gotta go. Nobody messes with PD and TRK without punishment. I love Burke, what a great character, but seriously, Isaiah's paying his price. And I know people are asking why he didn't get fired when it happened, but it's because ABC has brains and is not gonna finish him out in the middle of a season. That'd be so bad. He shouldn't even come back for one episode to clear things up in the 4th season. Shonda Rhimes and the other writers of Grey's Anatomy are great enough to figure something out to get Burke out. Sorry IW fans, but he got what he deserved. You can't call T.R. a bad name AND you especially can't try to punch Patrick Dempsey. That's against the law in my book! Burke, I love your character, but Georgie can't leave. He's Georgie!
HoldTheElevator
June 10th, 2007 11:08 AM
I really don't care that he's not coming back. I only liked him becasue he was with Christina on the show. I didn't think he ever was an asset. Will I miss him on some occasions? probably. But to whoever said it was KH and TRK fault for him getting kicked off - i'm SURE knight ASKED washington to call him what he did. And KH was just reacting to the situation. I know we all have tempers and issues with other people. But you don't see everyone else calling people f****ts and other slurs every time they get mad!
P.S. - I completely agree w/ you sam!
freaky
June 10th, 2007 10:52 AM
he wont be back ???
no more fun..he is a good actor....realluy protrayed a surgeon well..even betterthan patrick dempsey...and yet..just becoz of the commotion that occur previously...hell....wats the big deal about the gay thing..i mean he is jus voicing his views...besides he already apologized..i dont see why they think this as a threat to the show...
hello...they can actually check the number or viewers right ? i bet it didnt fall tremendously jus becoz of his comments...duh...
McNasty Social Worker
June 10th, 2007 10:50 AM
I totally agree with Washington's spokesperson, Howard Bragman! He did all that stuff for nothing!! Only to get fired anyway! I know many people who are saying that they will no longer watch Grey's Anatomy because of this! It will be very interesting to see what happens to the shows ratings in the upcoming season! There will never be another actor who was born to play the role of Dr. Preston Burke like Isaiah Washington!!!!!!!!!!!
Maria
June 10th, 2007 10:50 AM
THANK GOD hes gone, i never liked Washington from the start, greys will be fine without him, and I think the way he left Christina in the last ep..is a good ending for him, seriously, dont bring him back at all
cu83
June 10th, 2007 10:02 AM
MJ, I totally agree with you!
@sarah: I was only referring to your statement that he tried to punch PD! They both said that that's not true! I never wrote that the ABC-guys are stupid!
Sarah
June 10th, 2007 9:23 AM
cu83 I don't think ABC is stupid. They fired him for a reason and IW isn't a quiet man.
I'm sad only for Burketina fans. I never loved Burke.
Meredith: People change, but they don't change.
June 11th, 2007 10:23 AM
I'm glad he's gone. Did anyone see the E! interview where he had to stop it to tell them they need to be more organized?! okay and SERIOUSLY?! Going to rehab for saying a word- are you serious?!?! Is it just me, or is everytime a star does something socially unacceptable, they go to rehab?! I mean come on! What he needs is someone to hit him on the head and say, "How about trying to be courteous and respectful?!" I dunno, just my thought. Characterwise, Bourke was alright, although he wasn't my favorite still a good character-
I'll miss Bourke, but not Isaiah.
June 11th, 2007 10:23 AM
ok, i agree with you. it's pathetic to think that you have right to judge, punish or even forgive(!) Isaiah for the things that he did not do to you.
and btw many talks are there that Patrick Dempsey is not the most saintly angel either. does that mean we should hate him? =/
can anyone help me answer my prev question please? ^scroll ahead 2 posts. =] thanks!
June 11th, 2007 10:13 AM
Sarah: IW is only a goog actor???
Then, if I might ask, how do you explain the awards he won???
And, by the way, do you know either PD or IW? How can you say that one of them is loveable and the other one is not? A person makes a mistake and that makes them unloveable???
Sorry, but your comment is just stupid!
June 11th, 2007 9:33 AM
They fired him for a real reason.
I don't think IW is better than PD.
Patrick is a great actor and a lovable man. IW is only a good actor.
June 11th, 2007 9:31 AM
hi there! can I ask someone how do I join the forum? I keep opening up the forum but there is no way for me to post reply, it isnt clickable! I'd like to post my comments on this in the forum instead. thanks for the help! ^^ yes I couldnt imagine Cristina without Burke. It's like losing a soul. I hate the network for doing that to our fave couple x/
June 11th, 2007 8:00 AM
I personally think that season 4 will be really good simply because; Shonda and her team are obviously not stupid, they have already seen, heard and read some if not all the public and fans reactions. I am guessing they have also come to realize what has gone wrong so far with their once upon a time classic writing. Therefore, something tells me they are definately not just going to sit there and do nothing especially when so many fans are threathing to stop watching while some have already lost interest. As for Burke character, yes GA is not going to be the same without him, however, people will get used to it. Just two things though, if by any chance Shonda let something happens btw der and lexie, many fans me included will be very very upset and secondly, STOP THE GIZZIE storyline, it just doenst seem right.
June 11th, 2007 6:37 AM
I would be feeling equally misused after having been led to think that, should I address my anger problems, it would effect my job status. I would also have to balance that with the cold reality of the option clause on my contract. The comments accusing him of not being sincere due to keeping his job being a motivation are a bit harsh, however. No matter the motivation, he still put himself through the process, at least exposing himself to a growth opportunity.
Do not get me wrong. I think Mr. Washington probably did have a pattern of behavior that made him difficult to work with. I think that as long as it was held 'in house' it was maybe tolerable. But once his problems created public personal problems for others - Mr. Knight - he became a liability for everyone he worked with.
I can empathize with the man, but having worked with a poisonous individual, I can tell you that everyone else is now breathing a sigh of relief.
I wish him well.
June 11th, 2007 12:44 AM
Comment by JB..
Right On!! I totally agree with U!!
June 10th, 2007 11:33 PM
First off Isaiah never punched patrick dempsey. And no i dont think that this is a race issue. um hello...Shonda the shows creator is an african american woman and has anyone looked at bailey lately? she is too. the chief well hes an african american too. not everything is a race issue people. but the main point here, everyone is saying oh he only did all that stuff to keep his job. well #1 you dont know if thats true. he may have been genuinely sorry. i dont believe any of you were on set when the fight happened were you? you dont know how it happened and who instagated who. but who cares. it was said and now its done he apologized sincere or not. #2 you have to make a living. if my job were in jeopardy id do what i had to to keep it. so even if he didnt mean what he said you cannot fault him for trying to keep his job. #3 i guarentee that AT LEAST 9 out of 10 of all you I.W. bashers are guilty of apologizing when you didnt really mean it. beacuse it was what you had to do at the time
June 10th, 2007 10:43 PM
I was in a situatiion similar to this...I had some problems on my job...and was let go at the end of the school year...but unlike IW..nobody told me that there were problems....and I was given some excuse as to why I was let go.
In situations like that...you just need to cut your losses...and realize it's time to move on..even if you weren't planning on it.
And as far as the show...I feel like it's a repeat of the situation with "Gilmore Girls" .....they changed the whole feel of the show when they got new writers...and it seems like this next season of Grey's will be completely different b/c they are changing all the characters....
I just know that the last few episodes were somewhat disappointing and as my mom said "depressing"...they lifted us up with all the romance...and now they're breaking everybody up!!!
June 10th, 2007 9:29 PM
I completely 100% agree with joiedevivre. So read whatever they said & here's what I have to say -
Nobody can play the role of Preston Burke better than Isaiah Washington. The show won't be the same without him. How could ABC fire him after he fixed his mistake & moved on? That's ridiculous. I hope IW and ABC work something out so he will come back to the show...I know it's a long shot, but hey, Burke's my favorite character so that's all I can really hope for right now.
The only reason I'm giving Season 4 a shot is to see how Cristina is going to cope with everything that happened. Meredith is just boring & old now [no offense Ellen].
June 10th, 2007 9:15 PM
I find it ridiculus to say that people will not watch the show because IW will not be on it. What if he left on his own.....would you watch the show then. The show will not be the same without him, but it will still be Greys Anatomy and an awesome show........ All the other wonderful actors and actress should not suffer because the decision was made to not have IW on the show anymore. I am sure it was a Disneys choice not shondas.
June 10th, 2007 8:57 PM
I will not be buying season 3 or watching season 4 because of this.
June 10th, 2007 7:37 PM
he should come back for a cameo...
June 10th, 2007 6:50 PM
I think the thing we tend to lose sight of is - it wasn't just the verbal stuff...I'm of two minds whether that's a firing offense, for Washington, Don Imus, or anyone else....but -
apparently the cause for ABC not renewing was "a history of disruptive behavior" which manifested itself in an altercation with PD and some angry words, including the F word, then the GG thing.
I can see where IW would be angry after taking steps that, however tacitly, ABC had to encourage and expect as part of him continuing in the cast. I'm not sure how much the additional comments by the cast had to do with it - although you've got to admit, if they didn't feel comfortable with him, it would probably show on screen eventually.
I do commend the cast members that were low key about it, though.
Should be interesting....
June 10th, 2007 2:37 PM
to loving greys all the time. I agree with eveything you´ve saiid espeiially that NO ONE shpuld call TRK names or punch & triangel PD. they both complete & uter respct. In fact the whole cast do. I for one won´t miss IW or Burke.
i Know Derek didn´t take the chief´s job but i hope gets Burke´s Job as cenior atttending. He´d be great at it & it wouldn´t take up too much of his time so Meredith wom´t feel negelcted.
June 10th, 2007 2:28 PM
Looks like Grey's Anatomy will be going down the tube. Too much drama!!!! The fact is Isaiah Washington is the only person who could ever play the role of Preston Burke. I don't blame him for being mad as hell. I mad as hell that he will not be on the show anymore. I guess Katherine and T. R. got what they wanted. It's such a shame because I feel like Isaiah jumped through too many hoops only to be fired anyway. Shame on ABC. People in the past have done much worse. People will watch Season 4, at first for the curiosity, then the ratings will fall.
June 10th, 2007 2:06 PM
This was not handled right from day one. But than again you never know how your going to react to something until it happens. You have to admit peoples true personalities come out in a situation like this and it's not always nice. I am also afraid it's just going to get worse. It's a shame because it's a great show with an amazing cast and crew.
June 10th, 2007 1:32 PM
I'd rather Washington leave than Knight. I don't want anyone leaving, but if you call T.R. a (*beep*) AND you try to punch Patrick Dempsey, you've gotta go. Nobody messes with PD and TRK without punishment. I love Burke, what a great character, but seriously, Isaiah's paying his price. And I know people are asking why he didn't get fired when it happened, but it's because ABC has brains and is not gonna finish him out in the middle of a season. That'd be so bad. He shouldn't even come back for one episode to clear things up in the 4th season. Shonda Rhimes and the other writers of Grey's Anatomy are great enough to figure something out to get Burke out. Sorry IW fans, but he got what he deserved. You can't call T.R. a bad name AND you especially can't try to punch Patrick Dempsey. That's against the law in my book! Burke, I love your character, but Georgie can't leave. He's Georgie!
June 10th, 2007 11:08 AM
I really don't care that he's not coming back. I only liked him becasue he was with Christina on the show. I didn't think he ever was an asset. Will I miss him on some occasions? probably. But to whoever said it was KH and TRK fault for him getting kicked off - i'm SURE knight ASKED washington to call him what he did. And KH was just reacting to the situation. I know we all have tempers and issues with other people. But you don't see everyone else calling people f****ts and other slurs every time they get mad!
P.S. - I completely agree w/ you sam!
June 10th, 2007 10:52 AM
he wont be back ???
no more fun..he is a good actor....realluy protrayed a surgeon well..even betterthan patrick dempsey...and yet..just becoz of the commotion that occur previously...hell....wats the big deal about the gay thing..i mean he is jus voicing his views...besides he already apologized..i dont see why they think this as a threat to the show...
hello...they can actually check the number or viewers right ? i bet it didnt fall tremendously jus becoz of his comments...duh...
June 10th, 2007 10:50 AM
I totally agree with Washington's spokesperson, Howard Bragman! He did all that stuff for nothing!! Only to get fired anyway! I know many people who are saying that they will no longer watch Grey's Anatomy because of this! It will be very interesting to see what happens to the shows ratings in the upcoming season! There will never be another actor who was born to play the role of Dr. Preston Burke like Isaiah Washington!!!!!!!!!!!
June 10th, 2007 10:50 AM
THANK GOD hes gone, i never liked Washington from the start, greys will be fine without him, and I think the way he left Christina in the last ep..is a good ending for him, seriously, dont bring him back at all
June 10th, 2007 10:02 AM
MJ, I totally agree with you!
@sarah: I was only referring to your statement that he tried to punch PD! They both said that that's not true! I never wrote that the ABC-guys are stupid!
June 10th, 2007 9:23 AM
cu83 I don't think ABC is stupid. They fired him for a reason and IW isn't a quiet man.
I'm sad only for Burketina fans. I never loved Burke.