Look at the x-men universe...people were trying to get rid of the mutants because most people's powers were 50x more powerful than any man made gun...
But does punishing someone because of how they were born really a righteous idea? Where would it end? Lock up people with abilities...then we would have to lock up highly intelligent "normal" people because they have the potential to conjure up an evil plan...oh, and you have to lock up "normal" people who are strong because they have the potential to overpower law enforcement. Let's not forget "normal" people who have great vision because they can aim a gun better than other people.
In other words, you can't punish people in a free society for crimes they haven't committed...based on the potential to commit a crime.
Nathan is wrong..and his philosophy is leaning towards that of a dictatorship.
lilbrinkie
December 16th, 2008 3:24 PM
I'm a strong supporter of Ando's power. Once they used it in the graphic novels for D.L.'s mom and then killed her, I thought it was a terrible waste of a great power. I'm really happy that they brought it into play. However, this power makes him a prime target for someone like Sylar. I don't necessarily believe Nathan's plan is right. Everybody deserves the freedom they are born with. Just because they are more capable doesn't mean they have any less right to live their lives as they see fit.
Will
December 16th, 2008 3:16 PM
You know, I had thought about this, too. I don't remember the specifics of that scene from the future where it looks like Ando is killing Hiro, but maybe Ando wasn't killing Hiro. Maybe he was using his powers to send Hiro back in time to fix things or something else puzzling like that. Although, I think it might be possible that Ando has a different power from the one he just got. The "future" we always see never happens the way it might (they always see the future in this show in order to change it anyway, right?), so who knows if it's even the same power.
jason
December 16th, 2008 3:14 PM
D4-4-life
Well then I purpose to you that Future Ando DIDNT kill Future Hiro and you (as well as everyone else) are mistaken and only thought they saw something they didnt...
Like when Hiro "killed" Ando in the bar earlier in Volume 3 are you sure thats what you saw??
the power that ando has could possibly give hiro back his powers seeing that it gave matt the ability to hear the whole city's thoughts and Daphne the ability to run back in time. but the one thing i dont understand is when we saw the future with ando killing hiro how come his power didnt kill matt or daphne.someone pease respond
CrapMcPoopin
December 16th, 2008 2:38 PM
Was Hitler also right in trying to rid Germany of the Jews? Would we be right if the US killed every prisoner? How about the poor? Would we be right then? No, because what we perceive as right, many would perceive as wrong... vice versa.
The real point that Heroes, albeit inadequately is trying to make is that any weapon (or formula) that seeks to do good, will always at some point do bad. Dynamite was a good invention, until it was used in bombs. Electricity was a phenomenal invention, and even that was used to kill. Guns to a certain extent are great inventions, for those who have more of them and are the "right" party in a disagreement (i'm being facetious). Peter's fear is that no matter what, giving people powers will always lead to some sort of catastrophic event, whether it be New York perishes or Costa Verde, or whatever other cooky scenario. Peter in trying to stop the future where Costa Verde is destroyed has inadvertently jump started some of the same things he feared in
Michael
December 16th, 2008 2:04 PM
Hmmm. Good point. The only one who has really done anything is Hiro. Also last season Bob mentioned that a Tsunami was headed toward Florida at one point...but was stopped. That would have been a good episode, you know saving people who don't have abilities.
Sylar: I can't bring Nathan back Peter, but I can sure as Hell swing a sledgehammer.
December 16th, 2008 5:38 PM
Look at the x-men universe...people were trying to get rid of the mutants because most people's powers were 50x more powerful than any man made gun...
But does punishing someone because of how they were born really a righteous idea? Where would it end? Lock up people with abilities...then we would have to lock up highly intelligent "normal" people because they have the potential to conjure up an evil plan...oh, and you have to lock up "normal" people who are strong because they have the potential to overpower law enforcement. Let's not forget "normal" people who have great vision because they can aim a gun better than other people.
In other words, you can't punish people in a free society for crimes they haven't committed...based on the potential to commit a crime.
Nathan is wrong..and his philosophy is leaning towards that of a dictatorship.
December 16th, 2008 3:24 PM
I'm a strong supporter of Ando's power. Once they used it in the graphic novels for D.L.'s mom and then killed her, I thought it was a terrible waste of a great power. I'm really happy that they brought it into play. However, this power makes him a prime target for someone like Sylar. I don't necessarily believe Nathan's plan is right. Everybody deserves the freedom they are born with. Just because they are more capable doesn't mean they have any less right to live their lives as they see fit.
December 16th, 2008 3:16 PM
You know, I had thought about this, too. I don't remember the specifics of that scene from the future where it looks like Ando is killing Hiro, but maybe Ando wasn't killing Hiro. Maybe he was using his powers to send Hiro back in time to fix things or something else puzzling like that. Although, I think it might be possible that Ando has a different power from the one he just got. The "future" we always see never happens the way it might (they always see the future in this show in order to change it anyway, right?), so who knows if it's even the same power.
December 16th, 2008 3:14 PM
D4-4-life
Well then I purpose to you that Future Ando DIDNT kill Future Hiro and you (as well as everyone else) are mistaken and only thought they saw something they didnt...
Like when Hiro "killed" Ando in the bar earlier in Volume 3 are you sure thats what you saw??
Rank: Extra
December 16th, 2008 2:47 PM
the power that ando has could possibly give hiro back his powers seeing that it gave matt the ability to hear the whole city's thoughts and Daphne the ability to run back in time. but the one thing i dont understand is when we saw the future with ando killing hiro how come his power didnt kill matt or daphne.someone pease respond
December 16th, 2008 2:38 PM
Was Hitler also right in trying to rid Germany of the Jews? Would we be right if the US killed every prisoner? How about the poor? Would we be right then? No, because what we perceive as right, many would perceive as wrong... vice versa.
The real point that Heroes, albeit inadequately is trying to make is that any weapon (or formula) that seeks to do good, will always at some point do bad. Dynamite was a good invention, until it was used in bombs. Electricity was a phenomenal invention, and even that was used to kill. Guns to a certain extent are great inventions, for those who have more of them and are the "right" party in a disagreement (i'm being facetious). Peter's fear is that no matter what, giving people powers will always lead to some sort of catastrophic event, whether it be New York perishes or Costa Verde, or whatever other cooky scenario. Peter in trying to stop the future where Costa Verde is destroyed has inadvertently jump started some of the same things he feared in
December 16th, 2008 2:04 PM
Hmmm. Good point. The only one who has really done anything is Hiro. Also last season Bob mentioned that a Tsunami was headed toward Florida at one point...but was stopped. That would have been a good episode, you know saving people who don't have abilities.