Gossip Girl Round Table: "Seder Anything"

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As fans gather in our Seder Anything" include memorable lines, curious plot holes, Jewish humor, Nate's future, the changing Blair and the mysterious Gabriel ...

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1. What was your favorite Gossip Girl quote from the episode?

DANdy: Blair's "I'm one of the Chosen Ones. I was wandering the Bassian desert, and I've reached the Vanderbilt Promised Land." Great for yet another use of Chuck's name, and also for the episode's (and Passover's) theme of redemption.

Gossip Guy: In a rare first move, I want to give it to Jenny for standing up to Chuck so much this episode. Especially when she told him that "The only human contact that you don't pay for is the people in this house." Harsh and true!

Mister Meester: I loved how, when he Nate was breaking up with Blair, he recounted aloud the events of the past hour. All of the twists, turns, lies and schemes do get a bit confusing, even for the characters themselves. Vintage Gossip Girl.

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2. In honor of Josh Schwartz and two-thirds of our panel, what was the best Jewish humor-related part of the episode?

DANdy: The "Schmutz Happens" apron. 'Nuff said.

Mister Meester: Pretty much any line by Cyrus. He is hilarious. They need to put Wallace Shawn on retainer. With Cyrus and Dorota, Gossip Girl has a couple of great random, supporting characters to inject comic relief once in awhile.

Gossip Guy: Well thank you for this great honor. Really, the whole seder and its many interruptions was fantastic. I think my favorite part was everyone going for the sip of the wine before the blessing. Been there, done that. Though, technically they couldn't have even poured it before the seder begins since pouring of the glass is part of it. Where was your Jewish consultant? I'm available for free if you fly me out to the set.

3. Should Nate go to Yale or Columbia?

Mister Meester: Probably Yale, although I love the assertion that Columbia is somehow slumming it (or that Nate could get in there on his own merit but not Yale). U.S. News & World Report ranks both in its top 10 nationally!

DANdy: Columbia, but not because of the grandfather. The last time he visited Yale, if you recall, Nate pretended to be Dan, hooked up with some girl, and had a group of goons trying to kick his ass. Time for a fresh start.

Gossip Guy: Definitely Yale. I want grandpa Vanderbilt on my side. Oh no, poor Nate has to go to the school he didn't get into on his own merits. Wah. Personally, I'd mooch every opportunity I could. Want to adopt me gramps?

4. Strangest plot hole: Jenny having her Monopoly date at the van der Woodsen's and not in Brooklyn, Nate staying at the rehearsal dinner after his kiss-off toast, or Serena actually thinking she's married?

Gossip Guy: By far Jenny playing Monopoly at the van der Woodsen's. She hasn't moved in yet. What the hell is she doing there? Trying to get late-night raped by Chuck? Honestly, Nate may be pretty, but he's not smart enough to take a hint. And Serena? Can you blame her for kind of wanting to be married to that beef cake?

DANdy: All interesting questions, but Nate all the way. How did he not simply walk out of the rehearsal after dissing his grandfather like that? If nothing else, one would think he'd be worried that Maureen might try to poison him.

Mister Meester: I think Serena secretly wished the marriage was legit, and you can't apply logic to anything Nate does. But Jenny and Wes hanging out at the VDW's was the best. She doesn't live there, first of all - and wouldn't new, anti-UES Little J embrace her middle-class Brooklyn roots? Makes no sense.

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5. Gabriel: Intriguing or boring?

Mister Meester: He seems like he's kind of a stiff, but clearly there's something beneath the surface. I'm curious to see what he does that gets Serena arrested.

Gossip Guy: Maybe I just love this guy from his stint as the Devil's son on Reaper, but Armie Hammer seems to play the good looking, subtly evil bastard so well. I was very happy to find out he wasn't all good when he talked to Poppy at the end. Can't wait to see where this handsome devil's plot line is going.

DANdy: Zzzzz. What's so dashing about this guy? This episode proved how great Serena and Dan are together ... even when just pretending to be together.

BONUS QUESTION: Has Blair really changed - and is being with Nate stifling the feisty, confident B we know and love?

DANdy: Meek, submissive, floundering Blair 2.0 is not doing it for me (although Leighton Meester is terrific in selling it). The old B would have played hardball with the grandfather and taken down Tripp's finacee so hard after that snarky comment. Hopefully N and C fighting over her in the next few weeks will restore the queen!

Mister Meester: Chuck said it best, and simplest: Blair is changing, having chosen Nate over him. It may be foolish to want her to be anything but herself, but hopefully for us, her Season One and early Season Two self returns ASAP.

Gossip Guy: I always want to believe the worst in people and think they can't change. In this case, the worst would be the best thing ever. I need my Queen B.

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I personally loved the scene when Gabriel says something (dont remember what) and Serena rushes to say "This wine is great, Cyrus" and Cyrus responses "We weren't suppoused to drink it yet, but that's okay" AND THEN THE LOOK IN ELEANOR'S FACE!!! HHAHAHA LOL i laughed like 5 minutes, if that isn't great acting then what is!

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Well, I am definitely glad Gossip Girl is back with all new episodes. It is about time.
The whole Serena and Gabriel married or not dilemma was kind of boring. Anything about Serena is boring actually.
I love the Eleanor and Cyrus Seder. It was hilarious. I love it when Eleanor was getting mad because she can’t eat and how the Seder was sooooooo long. I love it how Cyrus was getting irritated because everyone was interrupting the ceremony.
Chuck was kind of in and out. I hate the fact that he was not the center of attention but I love him when he was sad. So sexy!!! I just wanted to hug him and if Blair saw him, she would want to do a whole lot more.
Argh!!! The worst part of all in his episode was Nate and Blair. I hate Nate because the producers and writers keep bringing up issue of him and his family in which I don’t give a crap for. And I hate the fact that Blair is dating him now and that she is always with him.
This was a disappointing episode overall. I waited 3 weeks (plus sometimes longer) to see episode like this? I thought getting more viewers was the name of the game?
At least the promo for the next week has something to look forward to; Chuck and Blair. It looks rather interesting. I just want Chuck and Blair to get back together already, or at least have them talking or scheming together like they are appearing to do for the next episode. Yay!!!!
Nate better get a clue and bud the hell out because there are no places for him. He’s a failure at life. Nate needs to understand that Blair and Chuck are true love and his is just some pathetic jackass.
There are four episodes left for season 2. Please make it your best 4 episode ever. The way you can do that is start getting Blair and Chuck together!!!!!

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1. Fave quote:
Chuck to Jenny - "I never apologized for what happened last year. I deeply regret my actions of that night. If you ever do move in here, I'll make sure I'm not around."
so touching... and so sweet...it was a very good dialogue and it was a very touching scene. 2. Best Jewish related humour in the episode:
the "Schmutz happens" apron. lol 3. Yale or Columbia:
Columbia, definitely, Yale's too good for nate, and he should suffer for turning down his grandpa's oh-so-good requests like that. not everyone gets perks like that, you know,take advantage of t, dodo-brain. and if you're too dumb to appreciate that, well, suffer, you idiot! 4. Strangest plot hole:
have to say, nate, thats just plain stupid. are you TRYING to provoke maureen into strangling you?!!
serena is understandable, she was probably wishing for it to be true anyway, and can't say anything too bad for jenny, if it set the stage for her cutting dialogue to chuck, and his final (touching) apology. (she was probably trying to impress wes anyway). 5. Gabriel:
intriguing after that last thing with poppy. i like that sweet/bad boy thing he's got going, but still don't like him much. i woudn't trust S within half a mile of this dude. BONUS Q: hell yea, she's changing! i suppose its necessary for her character's growth, but i miss queen b. no one but basshole can give her the proper freedom of feistiness she deserves. grow fast B, and cum back soon! i have to say, this episode was amazing. the whole seder thing they had going on, plus serena-dan awesome onscreen chemistry, plus blair's (regrettable) fall from queenliness, plus the chuck-jenny thing was completely COOL!!!!

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Favorite Quote: Simply because it was downright cheesy and ridiculous - "Baruch Atah ay Dios mio! This Passover is going to get its very own Spanish inquisition" - GG Best Jewish Humor: I actually thought the whole thing was a bit sacreligious. Passover is quite important to the Jewish faith and I thought all the schtick was cavalier and kind of appalling. What up Schwartz? Nate - Yale or Columbia?: I truly don't care. The premise that Nate got into Columbia on his own merit is hilarious, because I think Nate is as dumb as a box of rocks, and Columbia's no community college. I don't imagine Granddaddy is going to be pulling any more strings for him at Yale after that whiny outburst at the rehearsal dinner, though, so... Columbia it is. Biggest Plot Hole: Hands down, Jenny's lame-ass Monopoly date at the VDW's. Obviously a set-up to get Chuck and Jenny in the same room and address the (ahem) attempted rape from Season 1. Finally. That's been bothering me for a long, LONG time. I love me some Chuck Bass, but that was one thing I could never swallow (no pun intended) about his 180 to main character status... the guy sexually assaulted both Jenny AND Serena! ADDRESS IT, THANKSVERYMUCH. Gabriel: Yikes, what a dud. Plus, he has crazy vampire teeth. Any Serena storylines bore me to tears anyway. Has Blair Changed?
Ah Blair. Ok, Blair is my absolute favorite character on Gossip Girl, but right now, I absolutely loathe her. She's pathetic and submissive, snivelling about with Nate the Great (yawn), and begging for table scraps. This is NOT Blair, and hopefully, by the end of the season, we will see her return to greatness (and bitchiness, because face it, folks, it's what she does best). Being with Nate, Blair turns into what she *thinks* she should be. With Chuck, Blair lets herself be who she really is, and he loves her all the more for it. PS: I think Chuck is about to launch a full-on battle for Blair. Did anyone else notice that after his apology to Jenny, he pushed away his half-full glass of booze in a completely non-Chuck-like fashion? Is Bass gonna sober up? And will it be to win the hand of a one Miss Waldorf? Sure hope so. All that said, I HATED this episode. I thought the acting was atrocious, with the exception of Momsen and Crawford (surprisingly, because I despise both of their characters). Meester was horrific, and I hate to say that because I absolutely adore her. Westwick - MEH, and God knows I love me some Westwick. Badgely and Lively - kind of generic and boring, as per usual. I'm thoroughly fed up with these dangling storylines, and I personally think the writing is getting sloppy. I love this show so very much, and I just want it to return to its former, early Season 2 glory.

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1. What was your favorite Gossip Girl quote from the episode? I think I'll give this week to Little J. I'm glad that she actually stood up to Chuck and I'm glad Chuck apoligized to her for what happened way back in the pilot! 2. In honor of Josh Schwartz and two-thirds of our panel, what was the best Jewish humor-related part of the episode? My mom makes a big deal of trying other religions besides our own, so she decided to have a seder this year a couple of days before Easter and I think it's funny how Eleanor kept saying, "Oh, it's fine, it's not like we'll be eating anytime soon," because that how it is, and it is excruciating trying to sit through all the prayers. 3. Should Nate go to Yale or Columbia? Columbia, it shows that he does have some skill and actually has the will to try to get something without anybody to pull strings for him. He got in like the common-man. 4. Strangest plot hole: Jenny having her Monopoly date at the van der Woodsen's and not in Brooklyn, Nate staying at the rehearsal dinner after his kiss-off toast, or Serena actually thinking she's married? I think Nate gets this one. If I had just dissed my family with no provocation I'd be totally embaressed and would probably not want to go to any family gathering again (they're already a blow). And plus my family would probably disown me before I disowned them. 5. Gabriel: Intriguing or boring? So, so, sooo BORING! Get him off the show. Well maybe next week his character will get a little better but for now he's a boring metrosexual (doesn't that sound kind of contradicting?). BONUS QUESTION: Has Blair really changed - and is being with Nate stifling the feisty, confident B we know and love? I hate Blair with Nate. They're like both all different. Blair gets really paranoid and needy and annoying and Nate just gets all effed up and IT SUCKS!! I want Blair to be fiesty and confident. She definatly needs to make a faster come back than Britney.

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tss--you're so right about the whole Seder thing relating to the one in the OC!! I actually just watched that OC episode the other day and totally realized the connection as well. As far as Gabriel goes...BLEH!! He is super boring. The only reason I don't completely detest him is because he's bringing Chuck and Blair together again [thank God!!] I just don't understand Serena's choice in men sometimes...first Aaron, who was like the worst choice ever, and now this guy. How does she go from Nate and Dan to these guys, seriously?! lol

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1. What was your favorite Gossip Girl quote from the episode?
Blair: Can you make sure they don't seat me behind Caroline Kennedy? She may be American royalty, but she's a giraffe.
Dan: Serena, we were together for a year and we didn't make it to junior prom. You're with this guy a month and you get married, so yeah, it's a little bit insulting. [Pause] I have to get back to work. You're married to landed gentry, and I'm a cater waiter.
2. In honor of Josh Schwartz and two-thirds of our panel, what was the best Jewish humor-related part of the episode?
I totally agree. Anything Cyrus said, including the humorous parts.
3. Should Nate go to Yale or Columbia?
Let’s just flashback for a minute: The last time Nate went to Yale he almost got the crap beat out of him. Nate, go to Colombia.
4. Strangest plot hole: Jenny having her Monopoly date at the van der Woodsen's and not in Brooklyn, Nate staying at the rehearsal dinner after his kiss-off toast, or Serena actually thinking she's married?
Can we give Serena some credit. She’s not as dumb as you think she is. As much as Nate should’ve just left, I’d give this honor to Jenny. Who plays Monopoly anymore let alone with their date.
5. Gabriel: Intriguing or boring?
God, he is so boring. He’s too stiff, and too tall, and way too deep voiced, in the bad way. There’s this guy I ride to school with and he has a deep voice, but it makes him all the more attractive. (Oh and his eyes and eyebrows remind me so much of Chace Crawford, but he’s attractive anyway).
BONUS QUESTION: Has Blair really changed - and is being with Nate stifling the feisty, confident B we know and love?
You know, I thought Blair being with Nate would be awesome. It sucks. Leighton sells the act, but Blair needs to get back with Chuck. Realizing this, I have just converted from Nair to Chair.

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OMG, where is our beloved Queen Bee ?
When Nate's grand talked like that to her I couldn't wait to see her answer, but it didn't came.
PLEASE SEND QUEEN BEE BACK !!

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1. What was your favorite Gossip Girl quote from the episode? CHUCK: "it's stupid for you to want her to be anything other than what she is"! 2. In honor of Josh Schwartz and two-thirds of our panel, what was the best Jewish humor-related part of the episode? I though the whole dinner was hilarious! But i guess my favorite part was cyrus' mum saying "Elleonor's friends are taking during Seder.", don't really know why, i guess it reminded me of the kirsten/sandy/sandy's mum dynamic on the O.C. (which i really liked!) 3. Should Nate go to Yale or Columbia? Neither!I'm sorry but i refuse to accept that someone who's 2nd to last in his class would get into columbia on his own!That's just a big no, no!
As for yale, if nate accepts any kind of favor from his grandfather after his speech last ep., i think i'll lose what little respect i might still have for his character! 4. Strangest plot hole: Jenny having her Monopoly date at the van der Woodsen's and not in Brooklyn, Nate staying at the rehearsal dinner after his kiss-off toast, or Serena actually thinking she's married? Nate. All the way. To not leave right after the toast, was just stupid!
Jenny was a bit weird too (it's ok to want to escape you're embarrassing father on a 1st date, specially when you're in high school, but if said father is not even home, i really don't see how that applies...). 5. Gabriel: Intriguing or boring? The character: boring!
The storyline: intriguing! BONUS QUESTION: Has Blair really changed - and is being with Nate stifling the feisty, confident B we know and love? Not in her core ("selling out" nate was a pretty good example of it), but she does act differently when she's with nate! I don't think she's actually change, i think she's faking being someone that she's not (someone nate'd actually like and not judge!)
Personally, i find the way she acts around nate to be truly annoying! Enough with clingy, insecure, needy blair! and pls make her stop talking in that baby voice...
Really want my strong and interesting blair back!

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Nate disguts me.Before,I liked him a little,but after that "I don't know if can trust you"
Talking about trust.You were the one who cheat on your girlfried with her bestfriend and wait one entire year to tell her that,and just did it because you thought you'd b with Serena.Please Nate,grow up.

Gossip Girl Season 2 Episode 21 Quotes

I don't even know how to say half the words in this prayer book named after Joe Lieberman's wife.

Eleanor

[to Blair] When it comes to these things, it takes a while to start to matter.

Maureen

Gossip Girl Season 2 Episode 21 Music

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Anitras-dans-anitras-dance Anitras Dans (Anitra's Dance) Bjarte Engeset & Malmo Symphony Orchestra iTunes
Graffiti-eyes Graffiti Eyes Stellastarr iTunes
Whatever-lola-wants Whatever Lola Wants Gotan Project & Sarah Vaughan iTunes
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