Gossip Girl Spoilers: Latest on the Love Triangle Comments (Page 7)
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Elijah's Hottie Rank: Regular Character
December 22nd, 2009 6:16 PM
Hey, I am watching "Blair Waldorf must Pie." I thought the dialogue when Serena, Eric, Dan, Blair, and Jenny sitting at the table was interesting. Specifically between Serena and Eric. Here is what they said:
Serena: "Mom is such a hypocrite. In all these years she's been riding me about my behavior."
Eric: "And here she is just mad at you for being her."
That is what I mean about "learned" behavior. Anyways, I would love to see more Van der Bass moments as well. I simply adore Eric. I want to see more of him.
And you are so right Ant. I think that is one of the reasons I loved Debarted. I played the scene with Chuck and Blair in the hospital many times. It was incredible. I want more scenes like that with the other characters. Let us see what is hidden inside of them.
Jeca Rank: Recurring Character
December 22nd, 2009 6:02 PM
Completly agree "Now is just about entertaining and OMFG moments that instead confuses us and drives us to the immediate thought of WTF? I think they are confusing the acronyms.
now that I have the time been watching gg since s1 , i find very interesting how gg has chance, so many good factors were just drop out and bury that made so good the s1.
I have to admit i like more S,she follows her heart and make decisions based on her emotions, instead of strategy,(yes blow it later but I do prefer this type of people),
funny how many times B and S have ' broke up' their friendship, they find nothing in comun between them anymore , their very different lifes and futures, but keep getting back ,returning to this friendship.
P. Rank: Regular Character
December 22nd, 2009 5:25 PM
They take irrational decisions all the time. That is why I like Season 1 the most. It was scandalous, classy, entertaining, fun and still you saw consistency in the characters (the only exception was Nate, who is the only one as I previously said, that is having some development right now). You could more or less understand why they decided one option out of the many they were presented with. Now is just about entertaining and OMFG moments that instead confuses us and drives us to the immediate thought of WTF? I think they are confusing the acronyms.
@CBNS I understand your case too. My best friend is actually a Serena-like case and she is judged constantly by people who don't know her. She also has that attitude that draws everyone in and make people "fall in love" with her. She likes someone different every month. But I know her, her reasons and insecurities so I'll be willing to defend her. I kind of know a person to go with each character (of course not as outgoing as the gg cha
Lily
December 22nd, 2009 5:13 PM
am i the only one who thinks that nate and resisting are two words that would never ever be together in the same sentence? when i think of nate i dont think of resisting....
lisalovesgg Rank: Guest Star
December 22nd, 2009 5:08 PM
nate, dont resist! ive waited so long for jenny and nate, they're actually an intresting couple to watch.
Ant
December 22nd, 2009 5:06 PM
I personally feel very warmly to the character of Serena. She seems to follow her heart and make decisions based on her emotions. I think you're right CBSN, the TV show has been quite lazy in covering the reasons why she makes the decisions she does. One of the reasons why I think that people love Blair so much is that when she was first introduced she was very shallow, but over time we've got to know her depth. Whereas Serena was introduced as the bad girl trying to be good, whilst we haven't ever really seen why she was bad in the first place, beyond general "daddy issues". In the eyes of the viewer Serena's character has deteriorated from how she was at the beginning with little justification for it.
Elijah's Hottie Rank: Regular Character
December 22nd, 2009 4:57 PM
Ant Says:
Patricia, you're right, it's all good fun, and nobody should look up to any of the characters too much, because each and every single one of them has made poor, irrational decisions at some point. All in the name of entertainment.
Ant, so true. I'm trying to enjoy a little down time before I have to hit the books again next month. LOL. With my schedule, I will be lucky if I can even watch GG.
Elijah's Hottie Rank: Regular Character
December 22nd, 2009 4:52 PM
Ant Says:
I understand and agree with what you're saying learned behavior (especially in relation to Serena), but I don't think that you can apply it too seriously to GG. Whenever the writers are deciding what actions each character should take, they are also thinking about how entertaining that decision would be for us, the viewership. This is an X-factor that isn't relevant in the every day decision-making of you and I.
You are right that the writers create a world for our entertainment, but Serena's upbringing has everything to do with her decisions. We are shaped by our experiences in life. And just as in literature(which is also for our entertainment), the authors give us background information on the characters so the readers can get a better understanding of their actions, it should be the same here too.
You can't establish a foundation and then not determine if it is solid and strong enough to hold the structure. I believe you are right, Ant. The writers are focus
Ant
December 22nd, 2009 4:50 PM
Patricia, you're right, it's all good fun, and nobody should look up to any of the characters too much, because each and every single one of them has made poor, irrational decisions at some point. All in the name of entertainment.
P. Rank: Regular Character
December 22nd, 2009 4:43 PM
lol at the stupid mouse. That's a really bizarre example. I don't know what should we call him, maybe Serena (kidding). I think that psychology and everything related to the mind is so interesting. That's why I put so much thought on the interpretation of the characters. It helps me expand my point of view in many ways. I cannot study real life people in the same way.
Jena is true that *mostly* Serena acts with optimist in her mind. In your reference to Blair I do believe it was very OOC of her to offer Chuck as a prize for a speech. But is no secret that is not behind Blair to manipulate people to get what she wants. It bothers me that some fans have so many double standards and are so biased. To each their own.
@Ant. Yeah, you can't take the show too seriously. Is so random! But it doesn't hurt to speculate and discuss about it, right? I would never base my actions on ANY of the characters.
Ant
December 22nd, 2009 4:36 PM
I understand and agree with what you're saying learned behavior (especially in relation to Serena), but I don't think that you can apply it too seriously to GG. Whenever the writers are deciding what actions each character should take, they are also thinking about how entertaining that decision would be for us, the viewership. This is an X-factor that isn't relevant in the every day decision-making of you and I.
Elijah's Hottie Rank: Regular Character
December 22nd, 2009 4:17 PM
Patricia, Yay!!LOL. I can't wait to read it.
And you make such an interesting point. That is why I enjoy reading your comments. I once read in psychology class about classical conditioning.
A test study was done, for example, on a mouse. You place this mouse in a maze and let it run free. When the mouse goes into particular areas of the maze, it gets a electric shock. This is designed to teach it to not go in certain directions that can be harmful to it. The researchers are conditioning him to gain a "learned" behavior.
What happens if the mouse keeps going in the wrong direction because he doesn't understand the consequences for his actions? Should we say he is a stupid mouse? lol.
Jeca, I agree with you as well.
Jeca Rank: Recurring Character
December 22nd, 2009 4:11 PM
Patricia ; yes, serena do what she does , with good intentions in her way, I don't think I have seen intentions of hurting other , is more like things don't go as she planned, but Blair, in the tree season has made really mean thing as queen B, for example, remember a few episodes ago what she did to vanesa? For that speach , she even used chuck, a few more too,' to win' in her way.
IamGossipGirl Rank: Recurring Character
December 22nd, 2009 4:11 PM
Oh yay for Dorota!!! I hope they have a cute little wedding and OMG wouldnt be awesome if they had like a baby shower/bridal shower with all the GG gals! :)
P. Rank: Regular Character
December 22nd, 2009 3:55 PM
Catie I think is so much better to understand your point when you express yourself like that. No need to do it if you don't want to of course. I understand what you mean though. I think that is the problem that many of the Serena haters are presented with (not saying that you are on)
I think that it would be better if Serena lived up to some of the consequences she causes with her constant mess ups. In my opinion she doesn't mean to hurt people. Even when she knows she is going to do it she believes it's for the right reason. For what she believes is best to do.
@CBSN "Every character of this show has established a "learned" behavior. Some people can make the mistakes over and over again and still not comprehend where they are going wrong. Serena doesn't do things to deliberately hurt people. "
I read in a fic once (I wish I could find it so you could read it, I'll keep searching) where Chuck was pondering the differences between S and B. It was set in between the BS fight of
Leighana
December 22nd, 2009 3:46 PM
wtf? jenny is totally in a different league then serena and nate..sorry but jenny's a little pathetic
Elijah's Hottie Rank: Regular Character
December 22nd, 2009 3:30 PM
Caitie says:
No need to condesend, CBSN. I don't usually employ my best vocabulary words on the Gossip Girl forum. But perhaps I will try to be more articulate in the future since I am apparently being judged.
I, by no means, claim to be an unbiased observer. I have characters that I like and dislike, just like everyone else. I was merely expressing my delight at the fact that, for once, Serena is going to be on the other side of things. For her to maybe see how much it hurts and for her to maybe decide NOT do it in the future.
And, while I don't deny that Jenny has many flaws, I just plain like her bad-ass attitude and nonchalant bitchiness. When she invariably gets her come-uppance (they all do), I will be entertained. But, I will also be hoping she bounces back.
It is hardly condescension to ask you a question. You are entitled to have favorite characters, but I wonder where do we draw the line? Should the mistakes and errors of our lives create a domino effect we
No need to condesend, CBSN. I don't usually employ my best vocabulary words on the Gossip Girl forum. But perhaps I will try to be more articulate in the future since I am apparently being judged.
I, by no means, claim to be an unbiased observer. I have characters that I like and dislike, just like everyone else. I was merely expressing my delight at the fact that, for once, Serena is going to be on the other side of things. For her to maybe see how much it hurts and for her to maybe decide NOT do it in the future.
And, while I don't deny that Jenny has many flaws, I just plain like her bad-ass attitude and nonchalant bitchiness. When she invariably gets her come-uppance (they all do), I will be entertained. But, I will also be hoping she bounces back.
nika90
December 22nd, 2009 2:49 PM
SERENATE 4EVER^^
P. Rank: Regular Character
December 22nd, 2009 2:44 PM
I doubt about that because there would have been spoiler hyping it up to the max and at least 3 more letter from the PTC.
I doubt it because there would have been spoilers hyping it up to the max and at least 3 more letters from the PTC.
P. Rank: Regular Character
December 22nd, 2009 2:40 PM
"Well se how good Jenny is seducing" I am looking forward to how she is going to "seduce" him. I don't know how's that going to turn out. How will she do it? I don't see J throwing herself at him, and we still don't know if she is going to loose her virginity to Damien. I doubt about that because there would have been spoiler hyping it up to the max and at least 3 more letter from the PTC.
On the Dorota news, SO happy. I think that actually is going to take away some of her screentime, because of the pregnancy. I hope we get to see a bit of the wedding at least. I think the writers can use that idea to bring all the cast together without seeming too forced. And bring Cyrus and Eleanor too. "Not enough" Cyrus. Roman and Harold can make a visit. I still find it annoying that they didn't add them to the Rufus/Lily wedding.
This was on the spoilers of the forum:
Amanda in Miami: Anything on Jack Bass? Why is he back on Gossip Girl? Is he gonna mess up with Chuckles?And how. From wh
G.
December 22nd, 2009 2:27 PM
@ Eliza:
yeh ok u're right bout this :) but my personal thought is that even if j tries to "steal" nate frm serena,i really dont see nj as a couple coz it would show the writers as changeable people... bef4 u say that nate n serena will become a bona fide couple and only after 3 eps u put j between them? yeh i know it is because they want to make the show more interesting,but i have a different perception of a bona fide couple.
btw,it could also be that this jenny's interest in nate will make serena and nate stronger,dont u think?
Jeca Rank: Recurring Character
December 22nd, 2009 2:17 PM
Uhh... Looks good all this triangle, writes do have to made it longer( that all their little Scott,Carter, the nate's girl at the begining stories) to built something more solid for NS.
Resisting... Good Nate ! Well se how good Jenny is seducing and hiding from Serena ,I'm sure somebody else
will find out before her ( maybe Blair or Vanessa or even Dan) and create more conflicts .
How much will Nate resist? History says not much, but maybe he'll made it this time and serenate will grow for real.
"Lily and Rufus doesn't care about their children?" looks like no,lily never does and Rufus will be so busy cheating lily... So Jenny can become the darker queen she meant to be.
Eliza Rank: Guest Star
December 22nd, 2009 2:11 PM
@ G:
no, it only said he resists as far as it's written yet - so I am SO sure he won't for the whole time :D
Eliza Rank: Guest Star
December 22nd, 2009 2:08 PM
yay, finally a triangle I love.
Because with C and B I always only wanted them to be together and everyone else was annoyingly in the way, but now...
I adore Nate and Jenny (have been a shipper from day one) but Serenate is kinda cute as well....
so I can't wait to see how this one will play out - let the gossip begin =D
Serena: Congratulations, you've officially joined the dark side.
Rank: Regular Character
December 22nd, 2009 6:16 PM
Hey, I am watching "Blair Waldorf must Pie." I thought the dialogue when Serena, Eric, Dan, Blair, and Jenny sitting at the table was interesting. Specifically between Serena and Eric. Here is what they said:
Serena: "Mom is such a hypocrite. In all these years she's been riding me about my behavior."
Eric: "And here she is just mad at you for being her."
That is what I mean about "learned" behavior. Anyways, I would love to see more Van der Bass moments as well. I simply adore Eric. I want to see more of him.
And you are so right Ant. I think that is one of the reasons I loved Debarted. I played the scene with Chuck and Blair in the hospital many times. It was incredible. I want more scenes like that with the other characters. Let us see what is hidden inside of them.
Rank: Recurring Character
December 22nd, 2009 6:02 PM
Completly agree "Now is just about entertaining and OMFG moments that instead confuses us and drives us to the immediate thought of WTF? I think they are confusing the acronyms.
now that I have the time been watching gg since s1 , i find very interesting how gg has chance, so many good factors were just drop out and bury that made so good the s1.
I have to admit i like more S,she follows her heart and make decisions based on her emotions, instead of strategy,(yes blow it later but I do prefer this type of people),
funny how many times B and S have ' broke up' their friendship, they find nothing in comun between them anymore , their very different lifes and futures, but keep getting back ,returning to this friendship.
Rank: Regular Character
December 22nd, 2009 5:25 PM
They take irrational decisions all the time. That is why I like Season 1 the most. It was scandalous, classy, entertaining, fun and still you saw consistency in the characters (the only exception was Nate, who is the only one as I previously said, that is having some development right now). You could more or less understand why they decided one option out of the many they were presented with. Now is just about entertaining and OMFG moments that instead confuses us and drives us to the immediate thought of WTF? I think they are confusing the acronyms.
@CBNS I understand your case too. My best friend is actually a Serena-like case and she is judged constantly by people who don't know her. She also has that attitude that draws everyone in and make people "fall in love" with her. She likes someone different every month. But I know her, her reasons and insecurities so I'll be willing to defend her. I kind of know a person to go with each character (of course not as outgoing as the gg cha
December 22nd, 2009 5:13 PM
am i the only one who thinks that nate and resisting are two words that would never ever be together in the same sentence? when i think of nate i dont think of resisting....
Rank: Guest Star
December 22nd, 2009 5:08 PM
nate, dont resist! ive waited so long for jenny and nate, they're actually an intresting couple to watch.
December 22nd, 2009 5:06 PM
I personally feel very warmly to the character of Serena. She seems to follow her heart and make decisions based on her emotions. I think you're right CBSN, the TV show has been quite lazy in covering the reasons why she makes the decisions she does. One of the reasons why I think that people love Blair so much is that when she was first introduced she was very shallow, but over time we've got to know her depth. Whereas Serena was introduced as the bad girl trying to be good, whilst we haven't ever really seen why she was bad in the first place, beyond general "daddy issues". In the eyes of the viewer Serena's character has deteriorated from how she was at the beginning with little justification for it.
Rank: Regular Character
December 22nd, 2009 4:57 PM
Ant Says:
Patricia, you're right, it's all good fun, and nobody should look up to any of the characters too much, because each and every single one of them has made poor, irrational decisions at some point. All in the name of entertainment.
Ant, so true. I'm trying to enjoy a little down time before I have to hit the books again next month. LOL. With my schedule, I will be lucky if I can even watch GG.
Rank: Regular Character
December 22nd, 2009 4:52 PM
Ant Says:
I understand and agree with what you're saying learned behavior (especially in relation to Serena), but I don't think that you can apply it too seriously to GG. Whenever the writers are deciding what actions each character should take, they are also thinking about how entertaining that decision would be for us, the viewership. This is an X-factor that isn't relevant in the every day decision-making of you and I.
You are right that the writers create a world for our entertainment, but Serena's upbringing has everything to do with her decisions. We are shaped by our experiences in life. And just as in literature(which is also for our entertainment), the authors give us background information on the characters so the readers can get a better understanding of their actions, it should be the same here too.
You can't establish a foundation and then not determine if it is solid and strong enough to hold the structure. I believe you are right, Ant. The writers are focus
December 22nd, 2009 4:50 PM
Patricia, you're right, it's all good fun, and nobody should look up to any of the characters too much, because each and every single one of them has made poor, irrational decisions at some point. All in the name of entertainment.
Rank: Regular Character
December 22nd, 2009 4:43 PM
lol at the stupid mouse. That's a really bizarre example. I don't know what should we call him, maybe Serena (kidding). I think that psychology and everything related to the mind is so interesting. That's why I put so much thought on the interpretation of the characters. It helps me expand my point of view in many ways. I cannot study real life people in the same way.
Jena is true that *mostly* Serena acts with optimist in her mind. In your reference to Blair I do believe it was very OOC of her to offer Chuck as a prize for a speech. But is no secret that is not behind Blair to manipulate people to get what she wants. It bothers me that some fans have so many double standards and are so biased. To each their own.
@Ant. Yeah, you can't take the show too seriously. Is so random! But it doesn't hurt to speculate and discuss about it, right? I would never base my actions on ANY of the characters.
December 22nd, 2009 4:36 PM
I understand and agree with what you're saying learned behavior (especially in relation to Serena), but I don't think that you can apply it too seriously to GG. Whenever the writers are deciding what actions each character should take, they are also thinking about how entertaining that decision would be for us, the viewership. This is an X-factor that isn't relevant in the every day decision-making of you and I.
Rank: Regular Character
December 22nd, 2009 4:17 PM
Patricia, Yay!!LOL. I can't wait to read it.
And you make such an interesting point. That is why I enjoy reading your comments. I once read in psychology class about classical conditioning.
A test study was done, for example, on a mouse. You place this mouse in a maze and let it run free. When the mouse goes into particular areas of the maze, it gets a electric shock. This is designed to teach it to not go in certain directions that can be harmful to it. The researchers are conditioning him to gain a "learned" behavior.
What happens if the mouse keeps going in the wrong direction because he doesn't understand the consequences for his actions? Should we say he is a stupid mouse? lol.
Jeca, I agree with you as well.
Rank: Recurring Character
December 22nd, 2009 4:11 PM
Patricia ; yes, serena do what she does , with good intentions in her way, I don't think I have seen intentions of hurting other , is more like things don't go as she planned, but Blair, in the tree season has made really mean thing as queen B, for example, remember a few episodes ago what she did to vanesa? For that speach , she even used chuck, a few more too,' to win' in her way.
Rank: Recurring Character
December 22nd, 2009 4:11 PM
Oh yay for Dorota!!! I hope they have a cute little wedding and OMG wouldnt be awesome if they had like a baby shower/bridal shower with all the GG gals! :)
Rank: Regular Character
December 22nd, 2009 3:55 PM
Catie I think is so much better to understand your point when you express yourself like that. No need to do it if you don't want to of course. I understand what you mean though. I think that is the problem that many of the Serena haters are presented with (not saying that you are on)
I think that it would be better if Serena lived up to some of the consequences she causes with her constant mess ups. In my opinion she doesn't mean to hurt people. Even when she knows she is going to do it she believes it's for the right reason. For what she believes is best to do.
@CBSN "Every character of this show has established a "learned" behavior. Some people can make the mistakes over and over again and still not comprehend where they are going wrong. Serena doesn't do things to deliberately hurt people. "
I read in a fic once (I wish I could find it so you could read it, I'll keep searching) where Chuck was pondering the differences between S and B. It was set in between the BS fight of
December 22nd, 2009 3:46 PM
wtf? jenny is totally in a different league then serena and nate..sorry but jenny's a little pathetic
Rank: Regular Character
December 22nd, 2009 3:30 PM
Caitie says:
No need to condesend, CBSN. I don't usually employ my best vocabulary words on the Gossip Girl forum. But perhaps I will try to be more articulate in the future since I am apparently being judged.
I, by no means, claim to be an unbiased observer. I have characters that I like and dislike, just like everyone else. I was merely expressing my delight at the fact that, for once, Serena is going to be on the other side of things. For her to maybe see how much it hurts and for her to maybe decide NOT do it in the future.
And, while I don't deny that Jenny has many flaws, I just plain like her bad-ass attitude and nonchalant bitchiness. When she invariably gets her come-uppance (they all do), I will be entertained. But, I will also be hoping she bounces back.
It is hardly condescension to ask you a question. You are entitled to have favorite characters, but I wonder where do we draw the line? Should the mistakes and errors of our lives create a domino effect we
Rank: Extra
December 22nd, 2009 3:01 PM
No need to condesend, CBSN. I don't usually employ my best vocabulary words on the Gossip Girl forum. But perhaps I will try to be more articulate in the future since I am apparently being judged.
I, by no means, claim to be an unbiased observer. I have characters that I like and dislike, just like everyone else. I was merely expressing my delight at the fact that, for once, Serena is going to be on the other side of things. For her to maybe see how much it hurts and for her to maybe decide NOT do it in the future.
And, while I don't deny that Jenny has many flaws, I just plain like her bad-ass attitude and nonchalant bitchiness. When she invariably gets her come-uppance (they all do), I will be entertained. But, I will also be hoping she bounces back.
December 22nd, 2009 2:49 PM
SERENATE 4EVER^^
Rank: Regular Character
December 22nd, 2009 2:44 PM
I doubt about that because there would have been spoiler hyping it up to the max and at least 3 more letter from the PTC.
I doubt it because there would have been spoilers hyping it up to the max and at least 3 more letters from the PTC.
Rank: Regular Character
December 22nd, 2009 2:40 PM
"Well se how good Jenny is seducing" I am looking forward to how she is going to "seduce" him. I don't know how's that going to turn out. How will she do it? I don't see J throwing herself at him, and we still don't know if she is going to loose her virginity to Damien. I doubt about that because there would have been spoiler hyping it up to the max and at least 3 more letter from the PTC.
On the Dorota news, SO happy. I think that actually is going to take away some of her screentime, because of the pregnancy. I hope we get to see a bit of the wedding at least. I think the writers can use that idea to bring all the cast together without seeming too forced. And bring Cyrus and Eleanor too. "Not enough" Cyrus. Roman and Harold can make a visit. I still find it annoying that they didn't add them to the Rufus/Lily wedding.
This was on the spoilers of the forum:
Amanda in Miami: Anything on Jack Bass? Why is he back on Gossip Girl? Is he gonna mess up with Chuckles?And how. From wh
December 22nd, 2009 2:27 PM
@ Eliza:
yeh ok u're right bout this :) but my personal thought is that even if j tries to "steal" nate frm serena,i really dont see nj as a couple coz it would show the writers as changeable people... bef4 u say that nate n serena will become a bona fide couple and only after 3 eps u put j between them? yeh i know it is because they want to make the show more interesting,but i have a different perception of a bona fide couple.
btw,it could also be that this jenny's interest in nate will make serena and nate stronger,dont u think?
Rank: Recurring Character
December 22nd, 2009 2:17 PM
Uhh... Looks good all this triangle, writes do have to made it longer( that all their little Scott,Carter, the nate's girl at the begining stories) to built something more solid for NS.
Resisting... Good Nate ! Well se how good Jenny is seducing and hiding from Serena ,I'm sure somebody else
will find out before her ( maybe Blair or Vanessa or even Dan) and create more conflicts .
How much will Nate resist? History says not much, but maybe he'll made it this time and serenate will grow for real.
"Lily and Rufus doesn't care about their children?" looks like no,lily never does and Rufus will be so busy cheating lily... So Jenny can become the darker queen she meant to be.
Rank: Guest Star
December 22nd, 2009 2:11 PM
@ G:
no, it only said he resists as far as it's written yet - so I am SO sure he won't for the whole time :D
Rank: Guest Star
December 22nd, 2009 2:08 PM
yay, finally a triangle I love.
Because with C and B I always only wanted them to be together and everyone else was annoyingly in the way, but now...
I adore Nate and Jenny (have been a shipper from day one) but Serenate is kinda cute as well....
so I can't wait to see how this one will play out - let the gossip begin =D