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Personally I got most of the answeres I wanted from the finale. From my understanding they were all dead from the beginning, as suspected no one would survive a plane crash of that magnitude. Remember that episode where they showed the plane underwater? and the visitors to the island confirmed that there were no survivors....
At the end Christian Shepard says that yes everything happened , yes they are real etc etc, meaning that purgatory is real, everything really happened, but it happened in purgatory...
Adam and Eve closed it for me, in season one the skeletons were fity years old but in season six they were 2000 years old. As per Chistian Shepards words there is no 'now here', they were still in purgatory while having this conversation.
The ones that died before could be Richard and afterwards could be Penny or even Juliet
But ofcourse that's just my view
"Producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse have spent season six telling us the show is about characters, not jaw-dropping answers. We've been on board with this assessment." SERIOUSLY?! Haven't the most boring/tedious parts of the show been all the flashbacks and alti-verse junk that have been telling us who these characters are? It began to be the "telling" rather than "showing" scenario, where just seeing how a character would react in distress on the island was more exciting and revealing than anything the writers were telling us about their pasts (Jack making a sandwich, yeah... that's exciting). Frankly, I believe those who were most upset over the finale put most of their attention on the plot (what the island was) rather than on the characters. I didn't need a good answer (it could have been weird and nonsensical even) but to be utterly distracted away from the island's storyline/conflict of Jacob and the MIB with the abundance of slow-motion hugs and kisses was like the writer
Even after reading these comments I am still confused. If the island really existed in the real world and the characters grew as a result of their being stuck on the island together, why did the island have such a hold on the characters that it kept bringing them back? It seems like they were dead from the beginning of the show (they died in the plane crash). It seems like the island was purgatory. Once the characters learned how to live together and learned to sacrifice their interests for their fellow man/woman they were allowed to move onto the next world (afterlife). Of course, they first met in the church and then went to the next world together. All of the traveling through time and living in the alternate world just seemed to be further tests to determine who was ready and deserving of moving onto the next world (afterlife). In each of the characters' lives their priorities were all screwed up. As the program progressed through each season, the characters became more loving and
if anyone noticed the church may have seemed tradinal but the stained glass represented something very different the final scene the stained glass has an ecleption of religions on it including jewdiusm, christian, pagan, ying/yang, and those windows were hinting that only the church represented his and proably most of the other survors idea of heaven, when in actuality their windows are there to represent mans ideas of afterlife, these religions, through glass shines a light!!!! the window is a big answer just think outside the box,
I watched this from the beginning, faithfully ! and the ending left me a bit confused but in reading and discussing w/ fellow watchers, I wasn't completely off. However, I have always suspected that the writers got a hold of some kick-a$$ "Maui Wowie" and just wrote, heh ! All in all, I'm glad I was part of it, sad that it's over.....and I TOO believe in duct tape !
The "Lost" finale was a great disappointment. Few questions were answered and the churchy ending was too pat. In fact, the writers used deus ex machina to end the six year series. They started to run out of ideas after the third season. Lost lost much of its audience.
Everyone who keeps saying the producers made it clear that the show as all about the characters clearly never read an interview with them during the first two seasons. Or live chat. Or read their blogs. Or anything. That the characters were important, and at time more important - might be true. At no time was it: "by the way, we're ditching this whole idea about explaining things".
While I will have to go back and rewatch the earlier seasons (I just got back up to season 3), I would say that yes there are some unanswered questions and stuff I'm sure the writers forgot about (though so far they were pretty good at covering everything that happened in season 1 and 2), but ultimately they did conclude the overall story despite those who feel they were cheated out of a resolution.
With many unhappy with the spirtual ending (obviously primarily those that aren't spirtual in real life, but hey its a tv show not a documentary) that we received, the whole church sequence, I felt was really just a way to say goodbye to all the beloved characters of the show much in the way most series finales do.
It was an ending for the overall show and for the fans, as far as the conclusion to the story: the monster was defeated and the end of the world was stopped.
That's pretty much as resolved as its gonna get.
I have been a Lost fan since episode 1. Following the finale I remain a fan. At the conclusion to the first series, it seemed there could only ever be three plausible outcomes. One, it was all an individual or collective dream. Two, it's really a scifi thriller. Three, the writers were creating a contemporary Lord of the Rings type drama, although it turned out slightly more Dan Brown than Tolkien.
But none of this devalues its significance as pace setting tv
for the 21st century.
What does slightly jar was not the lack of definitive conclusions to the storey as whole, or to any of multi-layered plots and storey lines ( there was enough of this type easy answer tv in the 20th century). No, it was the quasi or wholly Christian religious references to the conclusion. This risks a backward step in the direction of pre Lost tv. By the time most of the characters assembled in the church it seemed the obvious place for them. Dead or alive, and all together for a happy ending.
What I took away from this, is if I ever get into a fight with a creature made of spirit possessing no body; it isn't neccessary to have silver bullets (even though them are usually used against undead creatures who do have bodies), it isn't neccessary to have blessed holy water, it isn't neccessary to have a magic weapon to pierce his spiritual envelope and release his energy into the ether, it isn't neccessary to talk him into the light or banish him into the darkness, it isn't neccessary to put some wrong that is keeping him tied to a place right or to burn his body/remains/ashes; All I really need to do is punch the heck out of him, shoot him with regular bullets and push him off a cliff so that he can break his back and or skull. I'll be sure and try that the next time the opportunity arrises and let ya'll know if it works.
Oh and I just want to say Jeremy Sommer that is exactly what it was all about and I agree a little bit more about the 'mysteries'of the island would have madethings a bit more satisfying for everyone.
I have just checked in to see what everyone is saying now and I can honestly say it's giving me a headache. There were a lot of unanswered questions and those they gave us are open to many interprtations. I am sure the writers don't agree on everything either.
I agree that life cannot be wraped up in a nice little bow and so we should not expect it from a TV show. It was good TV for me, could it have been better? Well yes, but it was a nice conclusion and they would never be able to satisfy everyone would they?
I don't understand how people are upset with ending. We (the viewers) really got two endings; an island ending where Jack sacrifices himself for the island, passes the torch to Hurley/Ben, kills the MIB and Kate, Claire, Sawyer, Miles, Lapedis and Richard flew away, presumably, to safety. Then for all those people who really appreciated the relationships that were made on the island saw them re-established in the very unique flash-sideways (purgatory/heaven). It is a bit confusing initially because the flash sideways is being shown as happening simultaneously with life on the island. However, once you realize that there is no "NOW" in the flash-sideways, which Christian says, it all makes sense. Some people died as you saw them die (Juliet, Sun, Jin, John Locke, Jack) throughout the series and some people died years or decades after (Hurley, Ben, Kate, Claire, Miles, Richard, Lapedis). For those of you who thought they died when the plane originally crashed need to re-watch. As for
Well I say a definite conclusion. I still don't get what these answers are that people desperately wish were given. I think they covered enough for the closure that was given to be just.
An alternate version of the fight scene: Jack leaps at Locke. But as they tangle; they are morhed into the original Jacob and MIB. They tussle and dialogue at the same time; about things that might have answered some questions regarding the theme of heaven and hell, good and evil,,,,choices made. Kate does not shoot Locke, the two settle it between themselves, once and for all, and when its done, Jack is seen standing over Locke. more dialogue, flashes of past present and future...perhaps glimpses of the effects of the result of the death of MIB..all scenes designed to put closure on these two who were central to season 6........
.....much of the finale was weak, but I did enjoy the last 15 mins. I was ok with it - as in life and death questions go unanswered - open to interpretation by design. Perfect clean ending - no, but entertaining it was.
gonna miss it!
For me this was the worst possible ending, it feels rushed, the way the man in black was killed so easily and of course him spending the entire season still on the island we all knew he wouldnt escape and wreak havoc on the mainland so there wasnt actually time, the purgotary thing is something I try to erase from my mind, come on, they felt like they needed a hollywood happy ending, is that it?
I cant believe that happened, I dont mind having not all that many answers but the puyrgotory thing brought the series to a place it never should have gone, I did not watch this show just to see everyone getting a good end by the hand of (god?) because it is just way too out there even for Lost, to me the writers made it easy for themeselves and I hope at some point ABC will develop a spinoff so I can at least enjoy some of the characters again and maybe get even some more answers, I for example would have loved to see (even if it was in short) how the people that made it off the island lived
To those of you who didn't get the whole "was it purgatory" thing at the end - you simply haven't thought about it clearly. This is what (in my mind) the ending was trying to say, maybe you will agree:
1) The island was/is real. Oceanic 815 really did crash there (yes, caused by Desmond not pushing the button/set up by Jacob, etc), Jacob really brought people there and Scientists really went there to study electromagnetic anomolies, etc etc. The island was in no way "made up".
2) Everyone (ie all the main "losties") died in the explosion at the end of series 5, caused by Juliet eventually detonating the bomb thrown down the well.
3) Although many/all of the characters were dead at this point, just as Jack could see his dead father at the beginning of the first series, all of the losties were still apparently physical beings whilst on the island after the explosion due to the fact that the island conveniently served another purpose (as explained by Jacob to Ricardo/Richard in
wow, that last episode was amazing, i loved the way the black fog saved dasmondes from john and the way Sower stole some chocalate froma a vending machine, it was almost as good as jar jar binks in star war 'the menace of the phantons', 'joe locked' was my favourite charecter, he was the black bloke with the beard right? or am i thinking of 'joseph'? yeah, 'LOSTS' is brilliant, cant wait for the next series....its definately the best ever program made, well, that and the video where paris hilton sucks that blokes cock...
I loved the first season of Lost, in fact, I thought that the first season was a unique show quite worth watching. To me, Lost was about a group of people stranded on an island, not a game show like Survivor, but a modern, adult version of The Lord of the Flies.
However, what I did not expect was there to be a half dozen seasons of this show, honestly, I think that was too much, the plot line had to change, and it soon became phantasmal to a point of ridiculousness. I will admit there were some deeper overarching themes of philosophy, but I also must admit that i quit watching the series around the third season, and as I understand the plot line became even more obscure after that point.
The finale to me was just as disappointing as the series, and before anyone bashes me for not watching the whole series, please understand that I have been keeping up with the plot online. I am not satisfied with the finale, it is very obscure, and the plot simply ends by killing everyone off, there
Bunch of deniers in this thread. Most of you hardcore fanatics have spent roughly 120 hours of your life watching "Lost" -- and probably just as much, if not more, discussing it online -- so of course you're going to say it was a "great finale" to justify the ridiculous amount of time you've logged in with the series. I think I can definitely see how it was an "emotionally fulfilling" conclusion for the characters, but that's about it. As far as a providing a satisfying wrap-up for a sci-fi or mystery aspects of the show, it dropped the ball big time. This is The X-Files all over again. It's not so much that it *didn't* solve all (any?) of the riddles it raised. It's that the show's writers -- and especially its marketing -- constantly teased that in the end, there *would* be answers to all of these questions, at least the major ones. It was still a great setup for a show, and LanceVance is correct in his diagnosis that the first season still definitely stands as a classic. But this is
To be fair I am using the term scifi in a very loose sense, what I would use as a better description would be a sci-fi/fantasy drama if we are going to get into semantics.
Well look we're not going to agree, you are happy great I am pleased for you.
I felt it was weak.
Great but no Cigar,
The time travelling island covers one season. When the series began you saw all the religious elements in the show and situations dealing with faith. Even look at the titles of the episodes. No where in the titles of any of the shows makes it sound like a sci fi or a
Saying that there are left over computers makes it science fiction is the same as saying that
Saying that an island that cures paralysis and cancer makes it science fiction is the same as saying Romeo and Juliet is science fiction because the monk was able to concoct a potion that made it seem like Juliet died.
But it seems that's what frustrates you is that they didn't answer these questions. But they did answer these questions.
1. The computers were left over by the Dharma initiative and due to the strong presence of electromagnetivity, they thought that time travel was possible.
2. The island's healing abilities are due to it's proximity to heaven, nirvana, whatever you wan
Oh yes now I see it! how silly of me to describe a show about an invisible time traveling Island, that heals people of cancer & paralysis, full of computer equipment left over by scientists who has spent years on the Island carrying out scientific experiments to uncover the scientific secrets held by the invisible time travelling Island as sci-fi, clearly it was just a human drama similar to Dallas.
Now I get it thanks!
ps - never said Moon was a great 'who done it?', I said it was an example of good emotional scifi story telling, and the ending made sense and tugged the heart strings, it whats lost should have been.
Great first season, rest of it was a load of money grabbing
garbage. They dragged the story line out way to long and way
In addition, I think you wanted everything to fit nicely together. But the series is about one's life journey. Everything in life doesn't fit nicely together like many TV programs. They wanted the show to mirror life and make the point of what is important in life.
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