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Great but no Cigar,
I think you missed the point of the whole show. The show wasn't about the island. It was about the people. The island was just the background. The producers stated many times throughout the years that it wasn't a sci-fi series, but rather a story about a journey. I liked the mysterious elements of the show, but how can they be resolved when they aren't even resolved in real life? The mythical elements in the show be researched on your own.
You are saying it was a sci fi series, but I don't understand how you can come to that conclusion. The only sci fi that was involved was introduced in the show was time travel and it only encompassed one season.
I watched the movie Moon. I thought it was okay but not great. I thought it was very predictable and figured out the ending within the first 40 minutes of the show. The film didn't challenge your mind like the series lost did.
Damon your theory is a bit out there. I thought Jack could kill the grey smoke/lock monster becuase he became human again once the light was switched off, hence the blood on his lip when Jack punched him.
Sorry I lied, have to say one last thing.
To all those that think this was good, go and watch Moon, a low budget British movie, written & directed by Duncan Jones, starring Sam Rockwell & Kevin Spacey's voice, pretty much just them through the whole movie.
Won and nominated for numerous awards.
You might realise how good Lost should have been on an emotional & story telling level afterwards.
And what 'all the haters' as some of you have described us as are talking about.
This is my last post on this blog, I cant waste anymore of my life getting depressed about that awful ending, Morgans synopsis is spot on, a great mystery with the last page ending and replaced with a post it saying - they all went to heaven.
Complere garbage and an insult to the intelligence (but not all it seem) of most of the people posting on this board.
I feel insulted that after 6 years they try to end what could have been one of the greatest scifi series of all time with an ending that was nothing to do with the main plot, a story line only introduced in the last series to give them a get out it would seem.
As for the people saying it was brilliant and so emotional, yes it was emotional, but clearly you've never read a decent book or watched a decent scifi film, which should challenge you then reveal the great mysteries at the end before resolving itself in some way.
This didnt, it explained the flash sideways only at the end, there was no explanation for the content
In the end, without each other, they were LOST. Brilliant.
What did the haters expect? Seriously...think about it. Would Donnie Darko have been as good if they'd explained it all at once? No. You gotta go back and watch it again to really get it and see the connections. They're there. Even the best shows, like the Sopranos for example, leave loose ends. Even if they had tried to explain it all, we'd be disecting it and miss the point...obviously.
I can honestly say, I already miss you, LOST, and you're not even really gone yet. Love it or hate, we'll be talking about it for ages. Maybe even one day Jacob will appear before the haters, and convince them of the error of their ways.
That being said, I'm still not convinced all the haters are actually haters. They love it. They just want more of it; much like a certain light I recently recall hearing about...somewhere.
Having resigned myself before going into the finale that I wasn't going to get any of the answers I craved (considering they forced me to generate a bunch of stupid new ones in the craptastic "Across the Sea"), I actually enjoyed the hell out of the episode and even bought into the bloated sentimentality, BUT then the final act started and wow, could they have picked a worse ending? No. A more nonsensical ending? Doubtful. What a waste. I haven't been that disappointed by a work of fiction since The Phantom Menace.
No respect for Darlton AT ALL. I felt scammed after watching the finale yesterday. They write others, mysterious hatch on an island, polar bears, monsters...we say "WOW give us more!" They write dharma scientists, a button, mysterious numbers, large pockets of EM fields...we say "HOLY SHIT give us more!!" They write about characters all linked together in some way, time-travel, parallel universes, ancient mythology, 4 toed statue, reincarnation, immortal beings...we say "THIS IS SO AWESOME give us more!!!" So...they write...light in a cave, drink some fairy water, chuck norris fighting, they all died and went to heaven...the dumb and ignorant say "Masterpiece finale! Bravo!!"...the intelligent say "ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS!@#!!!!!!" Writers deserve to be embarrassed for this show, noone should ever waste their time on their bullshit anymore. None of their work ever makes any sense, its just there for the WOW factor during the ride up until the finale. Fuck you Darlton and co.
Christian Shepherd is not Smokie in the purgatory universe....u got it wrong....geeze
Just after it ended i was like, "huh"... then i thought about it and the more i think about it the more i love it as the perfect ending for the show.
1. This Island and Original Timeline is all real, the SLU is the afterlife i think most people agree on that. Therfore, Yes kate, miles, richard, sawyer & co do get off the island via plane. Yes, Desmond get's off the island since Hurley can determine the rules. In the afterlife, the experiences on the Island had bonded them together and they were waiting for Jack to come with them. It was a brilliant ending.
2. Jack saves the world and stops hell on earth. Yes that was hell trying to come through. Hurley and Ben run the island for an undetermined # of years, but much better then Jacob ever did.
3. I am glad that they didn't try to explain all the mythology in order to pacify people who didn't understand ultimately what this show was about.... the journey. I can figure out most of the unanswered questions myself. The
You guys just don't get it. Did you even watch the show? Some of you seriously need to go back and watch it again if you did. It was clear that they didn't die when the plane crashed. The island was real, and the losties created there own after-life get-together so they could be with the ones that were most important to them. At least that's what they thought. The twist was that in the church Christian Sheppard was actually the smoke monster. He took old-man Sheppard's body as he had done many times before throughout the series. It was his way of getting even with the losties for all the trouble they put him through -- his long con. After Jack kicked Smlock off the cliff, they thought he was dead. Well, wasn't it odd that a creature that lived hundreds of years and could withstand bullets and everything else and turn into smoke was so easily beaten by Jack and Kate. He didn't really die. When the losties weren't looking, Smokey left Lock's body. When the losties all eventua
But Lost DID provide answers, though perhaps not the ones you were looking for. No denying that there were many holes left, including the fates of some major characters (Walt, Mr. Eko), and certain mythologies were never clarified. But the answers provided were the more important ones, like will they live together or die alone? Will they make it off the island? Will they find the peace most of them lacked in life? The ultimate story here is that of people, and it mimics real life. We have no final answers. Perhaps knowing exactly what made Smoky black or where Dharma originated from wouldn't really satisfy the deeper questions raised overall.
Thanks for the synopsis! I too, agree about the sideways world being a sort-of purgatory that was meant for the characters (focusing on Jack) to come together and remember their experiences and need for one another in order to move on. I am also unclear about how this sideways world was created, and if the H-bomb had anything to do with that. It seems so, chronologically, but then what other mechanism would allow them to "move into the light"?
RE:" David Shepard doesn't actually exist, right? That's always a frustrating type of cop-out: when a show focuses on a character and then reveals this was just an imaginary plot device."
I actually didn't think that was a "cop-out". I had always thought David's sudden existence seemed bizarre, and i think he was created out of Jack's daddy issues and his necessity for a resolution with his father. Finally having a son, he could now bring the experience growing up full circle. Or perhaps Jack, David and Christian were symbolic of all Ja
Fiction, - as opposed to real life - has the benefit of being able to provide answers. Lost can be summed up as purchasing magic beans with a free copy of a Danielle Steele novel to sweeten the deal. It felt very much like borrowing a whodunnit from the library where the last page is torn out and a post-it stuck in its place reading, 'They all went to Heaven' - despite the fact the sideways flash was a temporary 'Goodbye evnue' where the reunited could meet just long enough to realize what they had lost (Sawyer and Julietee, Jack and Kate). "You were a great number 2" - the final nod to unrequited story telling and the ultimate betrayal of the promise of fiction. It was trash.
I have to disagree with some here who keep saying the writers didn't know what they were doing. For those who feel this way, I suggest that people rewatch the entire series and you'll see clues everywhere. Just like in the episode where Hurley, Locke, and Sawyer are playing Risk, Hurley states, "We are all going to die.....That's what exactly what he wants: to fight amongst ourselves" (referencing Locke). And Locke responds, that "It's his mistake to make, Hugo." You see a nice forshadowing of the finale and the forshadowing of the man in black's plan to for them to kill each other. You'll see many conversations such as this throughout the series.
May 24th, 2010 5:03 PM
HIGHWIRE - thank you so much for your review -
I am still fascinated by this show. I think ultimately it was about redemption and salvation. These characters went through a ton of stuff on the island and then even more in their sideways world before they were prepared for the light.
Back to the island though, I think the reason MIB turned out evil after he was thrown into the water by Jacob is that he was already corrupted by killing his fake mother, but do I have that right, did he kill his mother, after he emerged from the light/cave or before Jakob tossed him in? I honestly can't remember. Either way it seems the light was a powerful force for good however if such power was abused it could be a dangerous evil force as well. Jacob and successors guard the light to protect it from coming into the wrong hands and thus protect the human race. Mother had become evil though as she killed that innocent mother and took her two boys. S
People whine too much..
Real life doesn't explain away every plot hole, either. And even when you get explanations, you'll find it difficult to understand the motivations of various players, or the mechanisms that operate within civilization.
Don't think life has plot holes? Consider the inability of everyone to even approach a place where they can agree on mere facts. You can't even have a discussion about real world phenomena with others, because not even basic knowledge can be settled upon. Hop from MSNBC to FoxNews, or vice versa, and its like visiting an alien sideways world.
Who are you to visit the intentions of the creators of this show? How can you be so certain what was made up on-the-spot, or left as mystery, or is simply difficult to unravel or comprehend. Be thankful you could watch it for essentially free, or decide not to like it and stop watching. But beyond that, acting as if they OWE you for your "investment".. gimme a break
Basically, it's a question of science vs faith. If you are a spiritual person you loved the finale and if you are person of science you disliked it. Just like the question of Jack/Locke science/faith is season 1 splits the group in half, they divided the fan base the same way.
I'm a person of science so I wasn't enamored with all the religious overtones but felt the characters received a very emotional sendoff into the light....
Questions were ignored of course and that seems like a cop out to me on many levels. If it was really all about the characters and not the island like Darlton said then why did we all watch? We wanted answers to questions that they left us with over 5 plus seasons. There are so many questions unanswered it's not worth posting any of them. I will always love this show but can't help feeling the writers gave us a good long con....
none of this actually happened. it was all a dream. thats the best way to explain lost. (btw what the hell happened to michael and walt? why weren't they given a mention?)
So this is the way LOST ended, Not with a bang but a whimper
Now someone will have to hire a writing team to put out a series of Movies in which LOST meets The Prisoner, meets Touched by An Angel, meets Narnia [esp "The Last Battle"] meets Babylon 5, meets Ghost Whisper, meets Gilligan's Island, meets All Good Things finale of Star Trek Next Generation meets The Twilight Zone and etc....ad nauseum :-) . To those of us who want profound and skillfully woven disparate story lines & threads in a form that is both deeply rewarding and cohesive while easily accessible to even many children we can revisit something like all 7 of the Chronicles of Narnia by the master himself, CS Lewis. That is one of several examples, where many of the best Truths and Principles of Christianity are brilliantly woven into great storytelling, time travel, alternate timelines, mythology and more with very satisfying & thought-provolking results that feel authentic and retain their wonder and mystery while not leaving you feeling betrayed and ripped off as it s
I don't see this series as too long but as too short. The last season seemed incredibly rushed. I'm sure if they'd taken another year or two there would have been more explained and resolved.
The ending for the characters was a nice touch. These people had been brought together by a horrendous event, and had formed an unbreakable bond, they had helped each other get over many of there personal defects and problems...this led to Christian Sheppard stating to Jack that they had "created this space together" and that the time they spent on the island "was the most important of their lives".
If you noticed it was only passangers of flight 815 that went, Lapidus, Daniel, and the others who came on the frater...Ben too...none of them where in the church.
This means that to move into heaven, and true happiness they had to be re-united as a group in purgatory and all move on together, but only when they were all ready.
Some got to purgatory before others...as explained again by Sheppard Snr..."some died before you...some long after" and re-enforced by Kate saying to Jack "I have waited so long to see you". Once they were all in purgatory they could be re-united (by Desmond
After the final episode, I sat for a few minutes alone in the dark. I alternated between trying to fill in the gaps and being overwhelmed by the enormity of the message. A few minutes later, I walked upstairs and kissed my kids - feeling both happy and sad.
I remain troubled by the unanswered questions. I am a bit annoyed that the writers never really had a complete story - just an outline. In the end though, I am happy I invested in the show. There aren't many things that make me sit in the dark and wonder. I might feel differently though had I not had a DVR.
the ending SUCKED...Period
Why didn't the plane explode???? A few episodes ago MIB couldn't take it to fly off the island because it had been rigged, yet when the island suddenly starts sinking in to the ocean the plane also simultaneously stops being set up to explode at the slightest attempt to get it in the air!!!!
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