Oh and I just want to say Jeremy Sommer that is exactly what it was all about and I agree a little bit more about the 'mysteries'of the island would have madethings a bit more satisfying for everyone.
I have just checked in to see what everyone is saying now and I can honestly say it's giving me a headache. There were a lot of unanswered questions and those they gave us are open to many interprtations. I am sure the writers don't agree on everything either.
I agree that life cannot be wraped up in a nice little bow and so we should not expect it from a TV show. It was good TV for me, could it have been better? Well yes, but it was a nice conclusion and they would never be able to satisfy everyone would they?
I don't understand how people are upset with ending. We (the viewers) really got two endings; an island ending where Jack sacrifices himself for the island, passes the torch to Hurley/Ben, kills the MIB and Kate, Claire, Sawyer, Miles, Lapedis and Richard flew away, presumably, to safety. Then for all those people who really appreciated the relationships that were made on the island saw them re-established in the very unique flash-sideways (purgatory/heaven). It is a bit confusing initially because the flash sideways is being shown as happening simultaneously with life on the island. However, once you realize that there is no "NOW" in the flash-sideways, which Christian says, it all makes sense. Some people died as you saw them die (Juliet, Sun, Jin, John Locke, Jack) throughout the series and some people died years or decades after (Hurley, Ben, Kate, Claire, Miles, Richard, Lapedis). For those of you who thought they died when the plane originally crashed need to re-watch. As for the mysteries of the island not being answered; I think itâ€™s a valid criticism. However, once the light went out Richard started aging, john locke/MIB was no longer immortal and the island started to fall apart. I think itâ€™s clear that that light/natural energy source was what gave the island its unique powers. It's the same powers that allowed John Locke to walk and made Rose's cancer go into remission. John Locke/MIB didnâ€™t even truly understand what the light really was. He was right that by extinguishing the light he would destroy the island but he didnâ€™t know that he would lose his immortality which allowed him to be killed. In my opinion the writers could have explained a bit more about the origin of the island and the light while still ending the show the way they did (purgatory/island ending)
Well I say a definite conclusion. I still don't get what these answers are that people desperately wish were given. I think they covered enough for the closure that was given to be just.
An alternate version of the fight scene: Jack leaps at Locke. But as they tangle; they are morhed into the original Jacob and MIB. They tussle and dialogue at the same time; about things that might have answered some questions regarding the theme of heaven and hell, good and evil,,,,choices made. Kate does not shoot Locke, the two settle it between themselves, once and for all, and when its done, Jack is seen standing over Locke. more dialogue, flashes of past present and future...perhaps glimpses of the effects of the result of the death of MIB..all scenes designed to put closure on these two who were central to season 6........
.....much of the finale was weak, but I did enjoy the last 15 mins. I was ok with it - as in life and death questions go unanswered - open to interpretation by design. Perfect clean ending - no, but entertaining it was.
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For me this was the worst possible ending, it feels rushed, the way the man in black was killed so easily and of course him spending the entire season still on the island we all knew he wouldnt escape and wreak havoc on the mainland so there wasnt actually time, the purgotary thing is something I try to erase from my mind, come on, they felt like they needed a hollywood happy ending, is that it?
I cant believe that happened, I dont mind having not all that many answers but the puyrgotory thing brought the series to a place it never should have gone, I did not watch this show just to see everyone getting a good end by the hand of (god?) because it is just way too out there even for Lost, to me the writers made it easy for themeselves and I hope at some point ABC will develop a spinoff so I can at least enjoy some of the characters again and maybe get even some more answers, I for example would have loved to see (even if it was in short) how the people that made it off the island lived their lives, so the sideways reality to me is the stupidest idea ever and I am very unfortunate to have to see I dont think I can be a true Lostie anymore.
To those of you who didn't get the whole "was it purgatory" thing at the end - you simply haven't thought about it clearly. This is what (in my mind) the ending was trying to say, maybe you will agree:
1) The island was/is real. Oceanic 815 really did crash there (yes, caused by Desmond not pushing the button/set up by Jacob, etc), Jacob really brought people there and Scientists really went there to study electromagnetic anomolies, etc etc. The island was in no way "made up".
2) Everyone (ie all the main "losties") died in the explosion at the end of series 5, caused by Juliet eventually detonating the bomb thrown down the well.
3) Although many/all of the characters were dead at this point, just as Jack could see his dead father at the beginning of the first series, all of the losties were still apparently physical beings whilst on the island after the explosion due to the fact that the island conveniently served another purpose (as explained by Jacob to Ricardo/Richard in "Ab Aeterno").
4) The flash-sideways was created by the subconscious of the dead - but still "living" (on the island) losties (including Ben et al who were also likely killed on the island, either by the explosion or some other event). Like Christian Shephard said to his son at the Church, "it's the place you invented to find eachother" (or along those lines!) - their collective subconscious fully aware that they were dead, but like MiB/Smokey - not able to leave of their own accord.
So don't worry - it wasn't all a dream - the lost writers just didn't want us to know about all the mysteries of the island in the finale and concentraded on the characters - and you know what? I'm cool with that.
There is of course lots that didn't seem to make sense (maybe someone can fill me in?) - why was Penny in the church? Why wasn't Ben or Annalucia ready?
wow, that last episode was amazing, i loved the way the black fog saved dasmondes from john and the way Sower stole some chocalate froma a vending machine, it was almost as good as jar jar binks in star war 'the menace of the phantons', 'joe locked' was my favourite charecter, he was the black bloke with the beard right? or am i thinking of 'joseph'? yeah, 'LOSTS' is brilliant, cant wait for the next series....its definately the best ever program made, well, that and the video where paris hilton sucks that blokes cock...
I loved the first season of Lost, in fact, I thought that the first season was a unique show quite worth watching. To me, Lost was about a group of people stranded on an island, not a game show like Survivor, but a modern, adult version of The Lord of the Flies.
However, what I did not expect was there to be a half dozen seasons of this show, honestly, I think that was too much, the plot line had to change, and it soon became phantasmal to a point of ridiculousness. I will admit there were some deeper overarching themes of philosophy, but I also must admit that i quit watching the series around the third season, and as I understand the plot line became even more obscure after that point.
The finale to me was just as disappointing as the series, and before anyone bashes me for not watching the whole series, please understand that I have been keeping up with the plot online. I am not satisfied with the finale, it is very obscure, and the plot simply ends by killing everyone off, there is no plot resolution, because everyone fails to realize the beginning plot, and that is a group of adults stranded on an island. I find it sad that the show has variated from this theme to such a large extent, for the plot of the show now is no longer unique, and I compare it to the more extreme soap operas (their names escape me, either Days of Our Lives, or The Young and the Restless or something) in which a major plot point is that someones lover is demoniacally possessed.
I just wish the show could be as good now as it was in the beginning, thank you Lost for joining the innumerable groups of shows that started well and ended terribly, right alongside Prison Break.
Bunch of deniers in this thread. Most of you hardcore fanatics have spent roughly 120 hours of your life watching "Lost" -- and probably just as much, if not more, discussing it online -- so of course you're going to say it was a "great finale" to justify the ridiculous amount of time you've logged in with the series. I think I can definitely see how it was an "emotionally fulfilling" conclusion for the characters, but that's about it. As far as a providing a satisfying wrap-up for a sci-fi or mystery aspects of the show, it dropped the ball big time. This is The X-Files all over again. It's not so much that it *didn't* solve all (any?) of the riddles it raised. It's that the show's writers -- and especially its marketing -- constantly teased that in the end, there *would* be answers to all of these questions, at least the major ones. It was still a great setup for a show, and LanceVance is correct in his diagnosis that the first season still definitely stands as a classic. But this is just a classic example of what happens when you drag a good idea out too long. Faaaaar too long. Fail. Epically.
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