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June 28th, 2010 10:37 AM
@smileyglen
Another thing, No Thatcher doesn't deserve a piece of Meredith's liver. Lexie said it and Thatcher knows it. But Meredith gave a piece of her liver, because of Lexie, because she care about Lexie's well being and because she generous, not because Thatcher deserve it. Meredith giving a piece of Liver was about Lexie and Meredith, not about Thatcher and Meredith.
June 28th, 2010 10:31 AM
@smileyglen
Meredith might've given Thatcher a piece of her liver, but she didn't do it so she could have father, she did it so could Lexie keep her father. Meredith said it that Thatcher mean nothing to her, he was just the guy who poured her cereal. He was at the Christmas's dinner because Lexie invited him. Yes Meredith left the door open, but Thatcher hasn't apologize to her for abandoning her, and the apology he gave in season 5 doesn't count because that apology was about the wrong things he did while he was drunk, not about the things he did while he was sober, and he abandoned Meredith while he was sober. So until Thatcher give Meredith a heartfelt apology he doesn't get to walk her down the aisle or be her father. Thatcher could be at Mer's suppose wedding which will never happen as Lexie's guest but not as Meredith's father.
@MerDer4ever
I totally agree with you. It so easy to say that Ellis didn't let Thatcher see Meredith so that why he walked away and started a new f
June 28th, 2010 3:44 AM
a big white poufy dress is not the only possibility for a wedding, shonda can thinks an alternative solution.......!!!
Rank: Regular Character
June 28th, 2010 2:31 AM
Ok so to my original question:
Would you like to see Meredith and Derek bring children into the world as Defacto's instead of legally married with the piece of paper. The baby would be born Grey not Shepherd because Meredith is still Meredith Grey not Meredith Grey Shepherd. So for any future kids Meredith can be Dr Meredith Grey but for any future kids she would have to be Mrs Meredith Shepherd, she can be both.
And if Thatcher doesn't deserve to be at Meredith's wedding, he shouldn't deserve to live with a piece of her liver, Meredith saved her father, she wants to get to know her father and having him at her wedding, even as a guest is a step in that direction, Shonda Rhimes has said Meredith will never be dark and twisty again, which is good, that means Meredith is growing up.
Rank: Regular Character
June 27th, 2010 5:34 AM
No way in hell! I doubt Mer would even invite him for her wedding, and ask him to give her away would be, HELL FREAKING NO. He doesn't deserve it. He doesn't deseve anything else from her. So what if Ellis wouldn't let him see Mer? She was her mother, he was her father, he could fight for his daughter, he didn't because he was a coward and it was more simple for him to find a woman and start another life than fight for his own five year old child. I have no respect for him. Richard deserve it more than he does. But if Mer would be in this situation she will definetly ask Cristina.. her person.. her bestfriend.. her REAL sister.. her family. The one that was there for her through everything!!
June 27th, 2010 12:40 AM
Nah Mer would want her "person" Cristina to give her away (if anyone at all - who says there needs to be a "giving away"). Any Merder wedding would quite conceivably be non-traditional.
Rank: Regular Character
June 26th, 2010 7:53 PM
@ana114
We'll have to agree to disagree, as you put it Thatcher didn't raise Meredith, you forget he wanted to be in Meredith's life, Ellis wouldn't let him, and by your argument, I shouldn't have let my father give me away at my wedding, I was like Meredith except my father had the affair not my mother and I grew up without my father in my life for 11 years, I had my dad give me away at my wedding, my mum knew I had doubts about it, she said I had the choice and I could of had one of my brother's do the honours.
Meredith is ready to have a relationship with Thatcher, she gave him part of her liver, he was at her house for Christmas, he is the only parent she has left grown or not, she would want Thatcher there, at her wedding.
June 26th, 2010 5:22 AM
Mer isn't a poofy wedding dress type, but I have this feeling Lexie will be. I can't see SR taking any notice of any of notice of us GA fans in wanting MerDer going to city hall to get a legal piece of paper.
MerDer have repeatedly refered to themselves as husband and wife, a married couple. Everyone they work with regards them as married. So the only people that would really question the post it would be Der's family. Will Der's mom be happy about the post it? SR seems to be contemplating the Mrs Shepherd visiting Der in S7. So it'll be interesting to see if the post it gets a mention!
June 25th, 2010 2:06 PM
@smileyglen.
Sorry but I don't want to see Thatcher anywhere near Meredith's wedding, he doesn't deserve to give Meredith away in marriage. If someone deserve to give Meredith away in marriage, as horrible as she was it would be Ellis, but since Ellis is dead, then I would give it to Cristina, because not even Richard deserve to give Meredith away. Thatcher and Richard didn't raise Meredith, they just walked away and didn't think about Meredith growing up with Ellis.
Rank: Regular Character
June 25th, 2010 7:31 AM
I have a question for all of you who are debating here.
Derek and Meredith are in fact defacto's. Partners, defacto husband and wife.
Question:
Do you want Meredith and Derek giving birth to bastard children?
Times might have changed but I don't think a television show like Grey's Anatomy should help promote children being born out of wedlock, I know it's not frowned upon like it use to be, I do think Derek and Meredith were brought up with good morals and they would want to be married when they bring children into the world. Be it is television and not real so what is the big deal, young people watch this show what kind of example would Derek and Meredith be if they condone such a thing.
So I'm all for them getting married, do it in the OR, hospital chapel, on Derek's property, at Meredith's house, at City Hall, or the Emerald Bar where they first met, they don't need fancy clothes, that's just trimmings, Meredith should wear what she is comfortable wearing, I would love
June 25th, 2010 1:57 AM
Annonymouse - well you'd better dive back into that hole you just came from then. Bye . . . don't come back now!
June 25th, 2010 1:55 AM
inlovewithPatrickDempsey - sorry, they aren't married and they aren't husband and wife as far as I'm concerned . . . deal with it!
June 24th, 2010 10:57 PM
@inlovewithPatrickDempsey: Normally, I wouldn't mind people have different point of views - it's what keeps the topic interesting. What I do have a problem with is when people start condemning others for HAVING different opinions. Those of us who disagree with MerDer's so-called marriage don't need to 'shut up.' If we did, you wouldn't be here having your argument. The wide range of opinions is what keeps it fun and engaging; you may need to tone down your rage a bit if you're even gonna take this seriously. As you have stated, this is Shonda's show and she should be allowed to do what she wants. Now I'm gonna ask you: what if she planned on having either Derek or Meredith placed in a coma and be taken off life support? That would be a 'horrible storyline' for you and you would probably be here ranting about it. Just because it's her show, that doesn't mean people are going to agree with her all the way. Whether it's a show, movie or book, the conversation would go nowhere if people ke
June 24th, 2010 10:34 PM
@Anonnymouse: Then you aren't exactly doing a good job at following your own advice.
June 24th, 2010 10:10 PM
Aaahh misery loves company. If you don't like the show, don't watch it. Why waste your time bitching about the same stuff over and over again? You people need to get lives, seriously, if this is what you spend your time doing.
Rank: Guest Star
June 24th, 2010 9:33 PM
guys... shut up. it's Shonda's Show.... let her do what she wants with it. The characters are her family, she created them. She is allowed to give the characters the life she wants. She can decide where it goes.
If she doesn't want mer in a dress.... then she doesn't have to be. If she doesn't want them to have a legalized marriage, then they won't.
Sure, i would like to see Mcdreamy with the love of his life lusty intern happy and together legally (that would make a horrible storyline if one of them was in a coma, and they would take her off life support unless a fam. member would sign otherwise... seeing as she got no fam other then derek.. who would sign) you know. There is a want in my heart... because i personally see it as the right thing to do... to grow up get married. But they have chosen to be partners instead of legally married.
To all of you who are pissed off at why they call eachother husband and wife... They are. they are husband and wife. They are MARRIED.
Th
June 24th, 2010 7:24 PM
team merder13 i couldnt have put it better myself
June 24th, 2010 7:22 PM
Ok well i just see Shonda being a little selfish on this subject i have no problem with a post it note wedding but apparently some other fans aren't. She may not be able to see meredith in a wedding dress or anything but we can and she doesn't even have to wear a wedding dress they could do the whole get married in the hospital thing wearing scrubs and her bouque could be made out of scalpels and retractors like they said in one episode i mean come on give us anything that would legally make them married
June 24th, 2010 7:19 PM
Shonda is really ticking me off! It would be so easy for them to go to city hall and get there marriage legalized. I could care less if mer and derek get there post it legal but it makes me mad that shonda thinks that that is the only way to get married.
June 24th, 2010 6:13 PM
Janey, Calm down and stop shouting! Of course they're not legally married. To claim otherwise is silly. If Merder want to be in a post-it relationship then so be it but just recognise it for what it is. In reality, they are a de facto couple "partners" - not "husband and wife". Also, why do the anti-marriage brigade always go on about a wedding dress?? That's got nothing to do with the essence of this debate, merely a red herring!
June 24th, 2010 1:23 PM
Again with the "I NEED THEM TO BE LEGALLY MARRIED FOR IT TO MAKE SENSE IN MY WORLD" people.
Lots and lots of people consider themselves husbands and wives (wife and wife/husband and husband) with absolutely no piece of paper telling them that they are married. And that's all it is. A piece of paper filed away for the government. Mer and Derek have a piece of paper that they care about and regard as a symbol of their marriage.
Both characters know well enough through experience that being legally married means next to nothing. There are different legal ways for both of them to make sure the other is cared for and that they have legal rights. Which they've likely already done since Meredith had undergone surgery in Season 6.
It makes sense in the case of both characters, some people just seem fixated on making Meredith and Derek more like them rather than like the characters they are.
June 24th, 2010 10:49 AM
Maybe after Derek got shot Mer plans this thing where someone marrys them in his hospital room and his mom is there and everything
June 24th, 2010 9:51 AM
I like the, "in the OR" wedding, or bedside right before someone has to sign something. Or how about a real switch, Mark applies for his minister's license on the internet and marries them.
June 24th, 2010 8:18 AM
I'm sick & tired of hearing about this. of course it is legitimate. they (MerDer) consider it true then so must we. they are committed, end of story.
I for one would not like to see Mer in a dress again. we had that and we had plenty of weddings (Cristina's incomplete one and Izzie's beautiful one) thank you very much!
So shut up! the Post-it is a serious thing!
June 24th, 2010 12:18 AM
We don't want a poufy dress either! That clearly is not Meredith. The ceremony need not involve clothes for goodness sake (just making a point here)! THE FACT IS - they aint married until they're married so please stop scripting in references to husband and wife re Merder, Shonda.