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Will: There comes a moment in every performer's life that defines him or her, sometimes for the rest of their career. This is our moment. We've struggled. We...
February 7th, 2011 9:07 AM
I just wanted to say. If Finn ends up with Quinn again, he'll be the biggest hypocrit ever. Quinn got knocked up with his best friend and lied about it for almost the whole pregnancy. Rachel made out a bit with Puck, because she was mad at Finn and wanted him to feel how she felt. Eventhough that was wrong of her too, she was honest about it right away, whereas Quinn wasnt even planning to tell Finn the truth.
February 7th, 2011 9:06 AM
I enjoyed the episode for the same reasons that have been mentioned, but I was very distracted by the timline. Why is it still football season? I can understand that in a weekly series it isn't always set at the time the viewers are viewing (it can be November in the story line when it is aired in february), except they have already aired the Christmas episode. I am a Glee fane who understands that suspended reality is part of the show, but when story lines don't make sense within themselves, it's not right.
February 7th, 2011 9:06 AM
I really enjoyed this episode. The make-up kinda scared me, and the music was great. I loved the girls stepping up to play football. I am starting to like Karofsky a little bit, if he would just say sorry to Kurt.
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February 7th, 2011 8:40 AM
@Will: I also disagree that Kurt is "layered" in any way. How is this the case? All storylines defend him.
Remember when he was acting like a nut job in stalking Finn, decorating their room, making clearly unwanted advances toward him? The show had Finn call Kurt a "fag" and instantly shifted that storyline into a discussion over the use of that term.
I don't really see any "layers" to Kurt. He's an openly gay student struggling with how others perceive him. I'm fine with that character, I'm glad the show features one. But that's also all he is. He's the victim in every storyline, he's extremely self-centered and is never called out for it.
Overall, I don't doubt there are people like Kurt that are treated unfairly and I'm thrilled it's a topic Glee tackles; I just wish that it wouldn't overshadow all other storylines at all times. It often feels like the show should be called "Kurt" instead of "Glee."
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February 7th, 2011 8:36 AM
@Will: I'll be happy to explain my take on the Karofsky-as-gay-storyline: it's a cop out for a couple of reasons.
First, there's no doubt it will end with him coming out of the closet, being embraced by all and apologizing to Kurt. It's just too predictable.
But even more frustrating is that it's lazy. Are there bullies out there who make fun of homosexuals because they are ashamed of their own feelings? Absolutely. But that is NOT the case in a large majority of cases. This allows the show to wrap up its bullying angle in a simple manner, as just explained above. It also couches the problem of bullying as some closeted-gay versus openly-gay issue, and bullying is far more over-arching than that. Girls mock girls about their bodies, jocks mock nerds because they're scrawny, etc.
It's an all-encompassing, complicated problem. I take issue with Glee taking the easy way out in the way it's been handled.
Rank: Regular Character
February 7th, 2011 8:15 AM
I totally agree @Will. This episode was IMO the best of the season. It brought back the whole Glee v. Football Team dynamic that was part of the first 13 episodes. And it was actually pretty consistent, a rarity on glee.I actually am interested in the Karlovsky sl, and I like Quinn again. Sue was hilarious, and Rachel was so badass. and Who else loved the Kurt/Blaine/Mercedes/Rachel frendship?
February 7th, 2011 8:07 AM
I feel like there are a lot of moments you've missed out here (both comedic and dramatic), and I for one thought this was one of the best episodes we've seen. Brittany was on form as usual, and Sue was at her funniest for a while, and there was actual plot development there which I don't see how you thought was predictable - three of our main girls left the Cheerios for good and Sue's budget was cut and given to the Glee Club.
Also, I think, from reading your reviews, you're bearing some sort of grudge against this Kurt-Karofsky-gay storyline because it's being handled in a sensitive, drawn-out manner. It's been running since the start of this year and is true of many homophobic people: their ignorance and disgust betrays their true homosexual feelings. I like the fact there have been several 'easy' ends presented at different moments (for example, in this episode, when Finn asks Karofsky to go and apologise - it could have just been done, or Karofsky could have not featured in the
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February 7th, 2011 7:12 AM
@katiej: I totally agree. There's no attempt at well-paced, logical relationship development. It all comes across as utterly random, just to throw some scandalous bone at the audience in order to get them talking about various couples.
February 7th, 2011 7:02 AM
wow, may to NOT comment on most of the episode. i don't think what's tired are the messages, although it it is what pushes it into more of a kids show, as opposed to a more grown up show. i think what's tired is how ryan murphy splits couples up because 'he's bored'. i mean, it just stops making sense. finn chews rachel out because she kissed finn...then kisses quinn while she's dating sam? really??
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February 7th, 2011 6:56 AM
@Sean: Didn't I say I do NOT expect a lot from Glee at this point?
I disagree, though, with the idea that it wants to be a "simple" shot. It clearly aims to have a major impact on society with the way it handles various issues.
February 7th, 2011 6:50 AM
I think you are expect to much from Glee. It's a simple show that makes you want to smile with all the cuteness. Sure it can be predictable ALOT, but this isn't Grey's Anatomy or some other drama where you can expect all of these curve balls.