The Good Wife Review: One Word Changes Everything Comments (Page 2)
72 Comments
Valeria
April 22nd, 2011 3:49 PM
Love and respect from a single guy to a married woman is crossing the line and is heading to total disaster of her family. You people keep refering to the present like today, everything happened two years ago with Peter, today is all the line crossing by Will thats makes a big difference in what he's about no morals.
Sophia
April 22nd, 2011 8:31 AM
@ Annie, one interview where it is stated that the title is meant to be taken with a grain of salt and irony is part of the season 1 dvd-box.
@ Annie, can you please explain to me what Alicia did wrong in her marriage with Peter? B/c you seem to suggest that part of the fact that Peter was cheating on her was her own fault! And that seems ridiculous to me.
Further my point is not that I hate Peter but that I don't understand people who are totally willing to defend him and make Will the bad guy. Will is not a saint (like no one on the show) but he has always shown nothing but love and respect for Alicia and no matter how you people try to deny it Peter did NOT.
Melissa
April 22nd, 2011 6:40 AM
I completely agree that Will has his demons and hitting on Alicia was probably not the most moral thing to do. But that being said, I don't know how you can defend Peter with his 19 (that we know if) incidents of sex with someone else, while bashing Will for telling Alicia how he feels about her. Last time I checked, Peter was the one who was married, not Will. And after the whole voice mail incident, when Will thought that Alicia made the decision to not be with him, he completely honored that. He never even mentioned it again, and probably never would have, until Alicia had that voicemail conversation. He always treated her with kindness and respect, despite the fact that he was heartbroken.
John Graydon Rank: Guest Star
April 22nd, 2011 1:48 AM
Wow, there sure are some slow learners on here! I keep having to repeat myself. If you self-deluded dreamers actually think Peter has reformed and that WILL is the bad guy, then I expect you'll also make a bloody mess of your own lives, because that indicates you have no common sense at all, and that you'll most likely be making bad choices yourselves.
It's just incredible how many of you somehow think Will is the adulterer. You clearly don't even understand what the word means. Did you miss that Peter has cheated on Alicia, by his own admission, AT LEAST nineteen times?? Weren't you paying attention? THAT is adultery. Will is with someone else now, and even before, he had never done a thing to pursue Alicia. Your fevered imaginations are making you see things that aren't there.
Speaking of words you don't understand, you need a better dictionary. IRONY (second definition): "An event or outcome contrary to what would naturally be expected." As I ALREADY EXPLAINED, the t
Annie
April 21st, 2011 11:15 PM
Sorry, posted before finished with previous post. I never saw where writers mentioned title is ironic. But if they did, what does that tell us then about "the good wife" if they are using the word correctly??
Annie
April 21st, 2011 11:12 PM
Also, the words irony and ironic are just about the most misused and misunderstood words in the english language.
Irony is the use of words to express something different from and most often the opposite of their literal meaning.
Annie
April 21st, 2011 10:01 PM
You know, marriage is a two way street. When things such as cheating happen, it is rarely just that the person who cheated, is just a low life rotten egg. Almost always the other partner plays a part in this too. And it is a polyanna attitude to think that cheating doesn't happen on both sides, and one or the other or both partners cheat in a huge percentage of marriages. As someone else posted, it is not always the best thing to do to rip apart a marriage because of it.
But some on this board think that is what Peter is, has no redeeming qualities at all, just a rotten evil man. His kids don't seem to think so. They love their dad. You can't fool kids especially the age of these kids. I know. I had a rotten mean drunk of a husband, not a cheater, which is much worse than a cheater. His own kids knew what he was without being told and could not stand him.
What this show is about is who these people are now. Everything we know bad that Peter has done is in the past
Valerie
April 21st, 2011 7:50 PM
Thank you Mrs Graydon you tell a great story.
Sophia
April 21st, 2011 2:35 PM
@ John, and again thank you, it amazes me how many people seem to misunderstand the title of the show. You're right the writers stated more than once that the title is meant to be ironic and the show is about Alicia's journey after the scandall broke, it does NOT mean that she has to stand by her husband no matter what and be used as a doormat.
John Graydon Rank: Guest Star
April 21st, 2011 2:03 PM
"Would anyone like to tell us how could this show go on for maybe 2 more seasons as the Good Wife if Alicia drops Peter ?"
That's easy. Just don't let the title fool you. The writers have always said the title was meant to be ironic -- as in she behaved like a "good wife" is supposed to, standing faithfully by her husband's side. And what did she get for it? Humiliation, embarrassment, and degradation, because the man she loved was not the least bit faithful to her.
The show could go on for YEARS more, showing us how such a woman is able to manage on her own, and be accepted as a skilled lawyer and professional, who has a more worthwhile role in life than just cleaning up her husband's messes.
Victoria
April 21st, 2011 11:50 AM
Would anyone like to tell us how could this show go on for maybe 2 more seasons as the Good Wife if Alicia drops Peter ?
John Graydon Rank: Guest Star
April 21st, 2011 2:03 AM
@AngieSimm: The next new episode will be on May 3, and there will be two more after that, to end the season. (It all has to do with the number of episodes they produce for the larger number of slots, so some have to be repeats. That's their excuse anyway....)
@Paula: You say your husband made ONE MISTAKE and you divorced him?? You're right, you did make a big mistake. That was really stupid. Nobody is perfect -- and if they make a mistake and apologize, you forgive them. Sometimes even a second mistake can be forgivable.
But AT LEAST NINETEEN MISTAKES, and probably more? That's a different story entirely! Even if Peter hadn't lied that Amber was the only one (you can never trust a liar again), he cheated on Alicia with Amber, by his own sworn testimony, EIGHTEEN TIMES.
That's not just a moment of weakness, when he was lonely on a business trip or something. That's him thinking, "I'm going to betray my loving wife and kids, and bang this hooker today. And then I'm go
AngieCimm
April 21st, 2011 12:12 AM
Where is the Good Wife?? Not on last week or this week - what is going on? Don't make us wait . . . we will have to go elsewhere and don't want to! Throw us a biscuit, for gosh sakes!!! When is it on again . . . and whatever happened to it???
Natille
April 20th, 2011 11:59 AM
Why is everyone talking like this all happened in the last couple of weeks, it was over two years ago and Peter has shown that he has tried to make amends. Alicia is a big girl and knows what she wants to do, there are more people involved than just her.
The best thing to do stop listening to other people and focus on her family and distant herself from work.
Paula
April 20th, 2011 11:46 AM
I agree.
As a person who went through the same problem a couple of years ago I can tell everyone that by not listening to the whole reason and take a deep look at yourself you might make the biggest mistake of yourlife.
I divorced my husband because he made one mistake, then I started a relationship with a person who always made me fell good about myself. What a very big MISTAKE, he moved in with me and my 2 kids and what looked like true relationship went south in one hell of a hurry. Stay away from office relationships.
To make a long story short my ex-husband has remarried and now has 2 kids, my friends see him all the time an wonder why I ditched him. So 1 mistake doesn't mean the end take time to look in the mirror and think about what you can do about it.
p.s Alicia knows this and what happened 2 years ago is water under the bridge, look at today and what has been going on since.
Ihor
April 20th, 2011 4:54 AM
What a great show!
And what a tough audience!!
Peter, throughout this series, has been SUCH a gentle, repentant husband, yet most viewers would have him castrated! He's sorry, O.K?
Now, his one-night-stand with Kalinda (I believe it) I suspect was a complicated, not overly ethical or legal affair which would better be kept secret. We all know how persuasive Kalinda can be when she wants to, and it would appear that she had a past that needed to be buried. Although I'm not clear about her firing, it seems she got her new identity. He was played.
Similarly, Kalinda would rather keep this information buried than open this can of worms, for everybody's sake. (Although her anguish seemed to weaken her resolve, for the sake of her friendship.(And in the face of blackmail.))
Dr. Joy Browne used to always say that anyone who voluntarily discloses infidelity is an immature idiot who unnecessarily wounds their relationship. So what's Peter's mortal sin? That he lied when asked if this
Alicia Gardner
April 19th, 2011 11:38 PM
@ John Graydon, thank you, thank you, thank you! I completely agree. Peter is FAR from deserving of Alicia's love and mercy at this point. Will has flaws, all characters do, but he has cared for Alicia in a very respectful way to this point. I think he appreciates her WAY more than Peter did and could. I hope Alicia separates from Peter sooner rather than later. Where's her self esteem? Her self respect? She deserves so much more than he has to offer.
keri martin
April 19th, 2011 11:36 PM
when did Alicia learn that Kalinda was Leela? anyone remember which episode that was.
thanks
John Graydon Rank: Guest Star
April 19th, 2011 8:28 PM
I'M not the one who has a problem seeing reality......
Kathren
April 19th, 2011 7:49 PM
Hey John take off your blindfold its time to smell the flowers.
John Graydon Rank: Guest Star
April 19th, 2011 7:00 PM
@Jammie. "I'm not on the side of any man putting a play on a married woman, this has been part of the 2 seasons that really turns my stomach."
Oh please. NOBODY is doing that. Will is with Tammy now, and even before that he wasn't pressuring Alicia at all. He was just politely waiting for her to wake up and realize she had married a lying cheating bastard and kick him to the curb. He's still waiting.
"No matter what everyone thinks Peter has done 2 years ago has no basis on today".
Take your blindfold off. The fact that he would CHOOSE to betray his loving wife, over and over, with a variety of women, should tell you what kind of guy he IS. Don't kid yourself that he's any different now.
"I'm waiting for the dark side of Will to be exposed that will send a big message to everyone and it won't be good"
You people keep HOPING that Will will be made to look bad, because you think that would make your slimy Peter look a little better. Oh no it won't! It's just incred
Jammie
April 19th, 2011 1:52 PM
Douglas I agree with most of your assessments but I'm not on the side of any man putting a play on a married woman, this has been part of the 2 seasons that really turns my stomach.
No matter what everyone thinks Peter has done 2 years ago has no basis on today, I see the other side with Kalinda as the one who should have come forward and not keeping up the push Will thing with Alicia. There seems to be a very deep dark past being buried and will be brought out in the end.
I'm waiting for the dark side of Will to be exposed that will send a big message to everyone and it won't be good.
In the matter of the kids, if a parent lies to them it will come back three fold in the future. She has already told them about WILL, NOW WHat do you say I made it up, no way kids today do not want the same old everytime story that was told before.
As you said 3 more to go, the ratings better go up or the party is over.
Douglas
April 18th, 2011 10:48 PM
Hello all, me again, from the looonng thought on the 13th.
BTW, sorry for how that displayed, it looked better in my head.
First, Please, may we all calm down and merely rejoice in this wonderful show we are All consumed by :)
I still think we are missing something regarding that one night. If Peter and Kalinda did sleep together, and then later she is fired, WHY didn't she go to Any of many fine Law offices in the greater Chicago area to sue someone's pants off!! And this before having met let alone worked with the wife in question. And I also think the context of the dialogue from when Alicia asked K` if everything is alright after K` & Blake had their words that she overheard.
Go left, or right. Take stairs, or elevator, Or escalator. Get that cab, then receive call... or get call Now, meaning dodging other people coming and going and getting stuck hailing a cab with hanabis hanging from the mirror, and saying "My bad, arm spasm, thank you but no."
Its one, OR th
John Graydon Rank: Guest Star
April 18th, 2011 10:05 PM
Will and Blake -- now there's a pair for you. ONE is a brutal thug who gets what he wants with violence and brute force, who broke that witness's door down instead of just ringing her bell like Kalinda had done. The OTHER is a topnotch lawyer, who has always treated Alicia with kindness, consideration, and love. Guess which one I'd be willing to trust more!
Did you miss the part where Will said Blake misunderstands his instructions. "Kneecap the witness" was a figure of speech, but that brutal thug thought he meant it literally. Figures....
Sammy
April 18th, 2011 7:47 PM
We all saw Blake go nose to nose with Will about the money stealing, Will was taken back and still is he thought he got away with it. We will see !
Veronica: Do you love my daughter? Will: I'm sorry? Veronica: Because if you do it's time to stop being polite about it, You have a window, but it's closing....
April 22nd, 2011 3:49 PM
Love and respect from a single guy to a married woman is crossing the line and is heading to total disaster of her family. You people keep refering to the present like today, everything happened two years ago with Peter, today is all the line crossing by Will thats makes a big difference in what he's about no morals.
April 22nd, 2011 8:31 AM
@ Annie, one interview where it is stated that the title is meant to be taken with a grain of salt and irony is part of the season 1 dvd-box.
@ Annie, can you please explain to me what Alicia did wrong in her marriage with Peter? B/c you seem to suggest that part of the fact that Peter was cheating on her was her own fault! And that seems ridiculous to me.
Further my point is not that I hate Peter but that I don't understand people who are totally willing to defend him and make Will the bad guy. Will is not a saint (like no one on the show) but he has always shown nothing but love and respect for Alicia and no matter how you people try to deny it Peter did NOT.
April 22nd, 2011 6:40 AM
I completely agree that Will has his demons and hitting on Alicia was probably not the most moral thing to do. But that being said, I don't know how you can defend Peter with his 19 (that we know if) incidents of sex with someone else, while bashing Will for telling Alicia how he feels about her. Last time I checked, Peter was the one who was married, not Will. And after the whole voice mail incident, when Will thought that Alicia made the decision to not be with him, he completely honored that. He never even mentioned it again, and probably never would have, until Alicia had that voicemail conversation. He always treated her with kindness and respect, despite the fact that he was heartbroken.
Rank: Guest Star
April 22nd, 2011 1:48 AM
Wow, there sure are some slow learners on here! I keep having to repeat myself. If you self-deluded dreamers actually think Peter has reformed and that WILL is the bad guy, then I expect you'll also make a bloody mess of your own lives, because that indicates you have no common sense at all, and that you'll most likely be making bad choices yourselves.
It's just incredible how many of you somehow think Will is the adulterer. You clearly don't even understand what the word means. Did you miss that Peter has cheated on Alicia, by his own admission, AT LEAST nineteen times?? Weren't you paying attention? THAT is adultery. Will is with someone else now, and even before, he had never done a thing to pursue Alicia. Your fevered imaginations are making you see things that aren't there.
Speaking of words you don't understand, you need a better dictionary. IRONY (second definition): "An event or outcome contrary to what would naturally be expected." As I ALREADY EXPLAINED, the t
April 21st, 2011 11:15 PM
Sorry, posted before finished with previous post. I never saw where writers mentioned title is ironic. But if they did, what does that tell us then about "the good wife" if they are using the word correctly??
April 21st, 2011 11:12 PM
Also, the words irony and ironic are just about the most misused and misunderstood words in the english language.
Irony is the use of words to express something different from and most often the opposite of their literal meaning.
April 21st, 2011 10:01 PM
You know, marriage is a two way street. When things such as cheating happen, it is rarely just that the person who cheated, is just a low life rotten egg. Almost always the other partner plays a part in this too. And it is a polyanna attitude to think that cheating doesn't happen on both sides, and one or the other or both partners cheat in a huge percentage of marriages. As someone else posted, it is not always the best thing to do to rip apart a marriage because of it.
But some on this board think that is what Peter is, has no redeeming qualities at all, just a rotten evil man. His kids don't seem to think so. They love their dad. You can't fool kids especially the age of these kids. I know. I had a rotten mean drunk of a husband, not a cheater, which is much worse than a cheater. His own kids knew what he was without being told and could not stand him.
What this show is about is who these people are now. Everything we know bad that Peter has done is in the past
April 21st, 2011 7:50 PM
Thank you Mrs Graydon you tell a great story.
April 21st, 2011 2:35 PM
@ John, and again thank you, it amazes me how many people seem to misunderstand the title of the show. You're right the writers stated more than once that the title is meant to be ironic and the show is about Alicia's journey after the scandall broke, it does NOT mean that she has to stand by her husband no matter what and be used as a doormat.
Rank: Guest Star
April 21st, 2011 2:03 PM
"Would anyone like to tell us how could this show go on for maybe 2 more seasons as the Good Wife if Alicia drops Peter ?"
That's easy. Just don't let the title fool you. The writers have always said the title was meant to be ironic -- as in she behaved like a "good wife" is supposed to, standing faithfully by her husband's side. And what did she get for it? Humiliation, embarrassment, and degradation, because the man she loved was not the least bit faithful to her.
The show could go on for YEARS more, showing us how such a woman is able to manage on her own, and be accepted as a skilled lawyer and professional, who has a more worthwhile role in life than just cleaning up her husband's messes.
April 21st, 2011 11:50 AM
Would anyone like to tell us how could this show go on for maybe 2 more seasons as the Good Wife if Alicia drops Peter ?
Rank: Guest Star
April 21st, 2011 2:03 AM
@AngieSimm: The next new episode will be on May 3, and there will be two more after that, to end the season. (It all has to do with the number of episodes they produce for the larger number of slots, so some have to be repeats. That's their excuse anyway....)
@Paula: You say your husband made ONE MISTAKE and you divorced him?? You're right, you did make a big mistake. That was really stupid. Nobody is perfect -- and if they make a mistake and apologize, you forgive them. Sometimes even a second mistake can be forgivable.
But AT LEAST NINETEEN MISTAKES, and probably more? That's a different story entirely! Even if Peter hadn't lied that Amber was the only one (you can never trust a liar again), he cheated on Alicia with Amber, by his own sworn testimony, EIGHTEEN TIMES.
That's not just a moment of weakness, when he was lonely on a business trip or something. That's him thinking, "I'm going to betray my loving wife and kids, and bang this hooker today. And then I'm go
April 21st, 2011 12:12 AM
Where is the Good Wife?? Not on last week or this week - what is going on? Don't make us wait . . . we will have to go elsewhere and don't want to! Throw us a biscuit, for gosh sakes!!! When is it on again . . . and whatever happened to it???
April 20th, 2011 11:59 AM
Why is everyone talking like this all happened in the last couple of weeks, it was over two years ago and Peter has shown that he has tried to make amends. Alicia is a big girl and knows what she wants to do, there are more people involved than just her.
The best thing to do stop listening to other people and focus on her family and distant herself from work.
April 20th, 2011 11:46 AM
I agree.
As a person who went through the same problem a couple of years ago I can tell everyone that by not listening to the whole reason and take a deep look at yourself you might make the biggest mistake of yourlife.
I divorced my husband because he made one mistake, then I started a relationship with a person who always made me fell good about myself. What a very big MISTAKE, he moved in with me and my 2 kids and what looked like true relationship went south in one hell of a hurry. Stay away from office relationships.
To make a long story short my ex-husband has remarried and now has 2 kids, my friends see him all the time an wonder why I ditched him. So 1 mistake doesn't mean the end take time to look in the mirror and think about what you can do about it.
p.s Alicia knows this and what happened 2 years ago is water under the bridge, look at today and what has been going on since.
April 20th, 2011 4:54 AM
What a great show!
And what a tough audience!!
Peter, throughout this series, has been SUCH a gentle, repentant husband, yet most viewers would have him castrated! He's sorry, O.K?
Now, his one-night-stand with Kalinda (I believe it) I suspect was a complicated, not overly ethical or legal affair which would better be kept secret. We all know how persuasive Kalinda can be when she wants to, and it would appear that she had a past that needed to be buried. Although I'm not clear about her firing, it seems she got her new identity. He was played.
Similarly, Kalinda would rather keep this information buried than open this can of worms, for everybody's sake. (Although her anguish seemed to weaken her resolve, for the sake of her friendship.(And in the face of blackmail.))
Dr. Joy Browne used to always say that anyone who voluntarily discloses infidelity is an immature idiot who unnecessarily wounds their relationship. So what's Peter's mortal sin? That he lied when asked if this
April 19th, 2011 11:38 PM
@ John Graydon, thank you, thank you, thank you! I completely agree. Peter is FAR from deserving of Alicia's love and mercy at this point. Will has flaws, all characters do, but he has cared for Alicia in a very respectful way to this point. I think he appreciates her WAY more than Peter did and could. I hope Alicia separates from Peter sooner rather than later. Where's her self esteem? Her self respect? She deserves so much more than he has to offer.
April 19th, 2011 11:36 PM
when did Alicia learn that Kalinda was Leela? anyone remember which episode that was.
thanks
Rank: Guest Star
April 19th, 2011 8:28 PM
I'M not the one who has a problem seeing reality......
April 19th, 2011 7:49 PM
Hey John take off your blindfold its time to smell the flowers.
Rank: Guest Star
April 19th, 2011 7:00 PM
@Jammie. "I'm not on the side of any man putting a play on a married woman, this has been part of the 2 seasons that really turns my stomach."
Oh please. NOBODY is doing that. Will is with Tammy now, and even before that he wasn't pressuring Alicia at all. He was just politely waiting for her to wake up and realize she had married a lying cheating bastard and kick him to the curb. He's still waiting.
"No matter what everyone thinks Peter has done 2 years ago has no basis on today".
Take your blindfold off. The fact that he would CHOOSE to betray his loving wife, over and over, with a variety of women, should tell you what kind of guy he IS. Don't kid yourself that he's any different now.
"I'm waiting for the dark side of Will to be exposed that will send a big message to everyone and it won't be good"
You people keep HOPING that Will will be made to look bad, because you think that would make your slimy Peter look a little better. Oh no it won't! It's just incred
April 19th, 2011 1:52 PM
Douglas I agree with most of your assessments but I'm not on the side of any man putting a play on a married woman, this has been part of the 2 seasons that really turns my stomach.
No matter what everyone thinks Peter has done 2 years ago has no basis on today, I see the other side with Kalinda as the one who should have come forward and not keeping up the push Will thing with Alicia. There seems to be a very deep dark past being buried and will be brought out in the end.
I'm waiting for the dark side of Will to be exposed that will send a big message to everyone and it won't be good.
In the matter of the kids, if a parent lies to them it will come back three fold in the future. She has already told them about WILL, NOW WHat do you say I made it up, no way kids today do not want the same old everytime story that was told before.
As you said 3 more to go, the ratings better go up or the party is over.
April 18th, 2011 10:48 PM
Hello all, me again, from the looonng thought on the 13th.
BTW, sorry for how that displayed, it looked better in my head.
First, Please, may we all calm down and merely rejoice in this wonderful show we are All consumed by :)
I still think we are missing something regarding that one night. If Peter and Kalinda did sleep together, and then later she is fired, WHY didn't she go to Any of many fine Law offices in the greater Chicago area to sue someone's pants off!! And this before having met let alone worked with the wife in question. And I also think the context of the dialogue from when Alicia asked K` if everything is alright after K` & Blake had their words that she overheard.
Go left, or right. Take stairs, or elevator, Or escalator. Get that cab, then receive call... or get call Now, meaning dodging other people coming and going and getting stuck hailing a cab with hanabis hanging from the mirror, and saying "My bad, arm spasm, thank you but no."
Its one, OR th
Rank: Guest Star
April 18th, 2011 10:05 PM
Will and Blake -- now there's a pair for you. ONE is a brutal thug who gets what he wants with violence and brute force, who broke that witness's door down instead of just ringing her bell like Kalinda had done. The OTHER is a topnotch lawyer, who has always treated Alicia with kindness, consideration, and love. Guess which one I'd be willing to trust more!
Did you miss the part where Will said Blake misunderstands his instructions. "Kneecap the witness" was a figure of speech, but that brutal thug thought he meant it literally. Figures....
April 18th, 2011 7:47 PM
We all saw Blake go nose to nose with Will about the money stealing, Will was taken back and still is he thought he got away with it. We will see !