Fringe Season Finale Review: Where Do We Go From Here? Comments (Page 2)
37 Comments
jeff
May 7th, 2011 10:44 PM
Peter's not gone. It seems to me that paradox Peter served his purpose and is forgotten. Also he said the room is to serve as a bridge uniting the two universes, he was also about to go into depth about what the machine does before disappearing given it opens the door to new time lines where Peter still exists in respect to the first people he was speaking of. Elementary Quantum Physics.
greta
May 7th, 2011 10:06 PM
I did not like the season finale at all. As great as last weeks epsiodes was this week was really lacking. And the way it ended with Peter never exhisting at all....wtf. Hated it so much. May NOT watch next season at all.
Celine
May 7th, 2011 5:53 PM
A theory popped into my mind as soon as the episode was over : the Observers say that "Peter never existed". But for Peter to have "a purpose", Walter must have crossed to the other universe and take Walternate's Peter back to his world, otherwise the whole storyline crumbles.
But remember that fact : when Walter crossed back, Peter fell into the frozen lake. And if it wasn't for the Observer, he would have died, and the damages into the material of the universe is done anyway !
So my theory is : the Observer saved Peter that very day so that a few years later, he could make the story happen as we know it and bring together the two Walters and Olivias, and fix what would stay a big mess if he had not been there.
What do you think ? Sound plausible ?
As for why they do not wonder what the hell they are doing altogether in the same room, I have no answer, and a very big frustration. WTF is wrong with those people always making my favourite character disappear ?! lol
PrincessD
May 7th, 2011 2:46 PM
The finale was a 5/5 for me. I cried when Olivia died. Enjoyed the Astrid/Ella/Walter scenes. And loved the way Peter came back and merged the two universes. That scene was the showdown I was waiting for. Although I'm hoping the two Olivia's work it out. For a split second it looked like Fauxlivia seemed rather intrigued by Olivia.
Also if Peter did not exist, then Olivia as a child who ran away from Walter's trials, would not come back to Walter and would not have crossed over and given Walternate her drawing book telling him about crossing over universes. Peter helped her come back, that was the first time they met and i think it was the sweetest thing ever!
I am very excited to see how the new season will pan out and i'm on board with anything the writers give us.
jmaddi
May 7th, 2011 1:27 PM
this episode will surely need multiple viewings before one can say it was underwhelming. it delivered so much information and new twists that its basically a set up for next season. i believe josh will return. after seeing both sets of the fringe div appear together in the same room and their reactions was enough for me. 5/5 ep. no other show since lost has turned the tables the way this show does. hats off to the writers. no one saw the ending coming. for a minute i was convinced that we would be watching the only the future storyline going forward and that there would be no more us and the alt universe. boy was i mistaken.
Perhaps it was all a dream and reality will be revealed in next season. Peter never disappeared and the destruction of the universe was just a nightmare from which the characters will awaken???
kimberly putzbach
May 7th, 2011 12:44 PM
I loved the ending. I think they twisted it well enough to make me extremly excited for the new season. Peter may have not existed but, I think there will be remnants of him through both olivias and thats whats gonna make them start questioning things. You can never remove all when your moving through time. Great show, wonderful writers, and producers, and everyone involved. looking forward to fall. thank you fringe for giving me a show i can really really enjoy!
JustJenn
May 7th, 2011 12:39 PM
Last week's episode was so emotion driven, it would have been hard to keep that level all throughout this episode. I like that they took it down a notch and then went completely left field. It didn't bother me that they didn't really "explain", the half truths are kinda what attracts me to Fringe, I get to make up my own decisions. A show that not only makes me think, but encourages it!
Given what we know of the Observers, they have the ability to know the past & future. We also know they like to "experiment" with human nature & behaviors. What if our two universes were always meant to destroy each other? What if that is our destiny? Then it would make perfect sense for them to "create" a reason to speed up the process as well as a means to correct it. So, Peter no longer existing is a moot point. He doesn't have to exist if the destruction was always going to happen. He does have to exist to bring us together to fix the problem. The writers can create any number of reasons
Isabel
May 7th, 2011 12:19 PM
Have to agree with you. I was sort of disappointed with the finale. I hope Season four comes back strong. If ratings don't improve, it will probably be the last season. Writers please give it a good ending!!
nas
May 7th, 2011 11:51 AM
you definitely are an anomaly reviewer - this episode had me on a rollercoaster of emotions and i think it's one of the best ever..actually the perfect cap to the season - i loved the new twists and the emotion, so i'm sorry u were underwhelmed but i think i'm in the majority when i say this episode rocked my world!!
Al
May 7th, 2011 10:58 AM
I don't know if maybe I'm wrong or some people just don't understand the finale. I think that even though Peter stopped existing the events still took place. The machine was still turned on "over there" and it was still turned on "over here". Just because Peter doesn't exist doesn't mean the events didn't happen. No they don't have any memories of him. No he didn't exist. Peter's purpose still occurred though. The writers/producers aren't going to just erase 3 seasons worth of history.
chrissie
May 7th, 2011 9:50 AM
Peter will be in season four - they producers have already said he has been contracted for season four - so no panic about that...but who will he be? If Peter never existed due to his actions within the machine, then time will have to make amends to avoid paradox - ei, walter still needs to go to the other universe and take something valuable - or else the paradox would occur. I would have to say it would have to be something valuable to walternate, or else walternate's arrival at then end would be out of place. Since peter does not exist - at the moment - then i would guess maybe walter went over and stole walternates wife, whom walternate loved very much we got to see. I say peter does not exist, because the observer told us so - but i know he will return, we will just have a few shows in the new season to work it all out. My theory: there have been countless time the machine has been assembled and disassembled, and each time a man and woman has made the choice based on the drawings
emy
May 7th, 2011 9:37 AM
It must make sense, only it is more complicated. We surely need to hear which fringe theories were used for the "paradox", and what element of the equation Peter represents. Good finale. Seeing them all in the same room made feel like crying, not the Olivia exit. Watch out for the idea- not new, but a good one, that unexplained things from humanity's past are not alien-sourced, but results of human intervening from the future - it is a very interesting theory and it must have its own rules...Looking forward for season 4, I wish they keep the cryptic things there, as long as they are theory based, and not get to explicit for commercial reasons.
SnakeTheCritic
May 7th, 2011 9:28 AM
@ CP Thanks for all the reviews of Fringe S3, great reading (-_-)
Fringe was one episode short of a flawless season. Unfortunately The Finale garners that distinction .. The purpose of any finale is to stay in our minds... Except for the last five minutes I honestly will forget this episode by days end. The First People and The Machine's origin was no big revelation. It just came off as an asked answered. No true bridge as to what's next just questions and many possibilities.
Cliche?? Surely the attitude of the eternal optimist who ignorantly procreates is more the road travelled in western society. Hard to see how a marginal attitude about parenthood suddenly became a cliche! More a cliche to be opposed to that, no?
nia
May 7th, 2011 6:03 AM
In an interview, the creators said Bell and Walter had been trying to crossover before Peter. So they probably achieved their goal.
pilar
May 7th, 2011 5:41 AM
I'm feeling kind of numb, to be truthful. Like I'm not quite sure what to think but I'm sure there will be explanation, next season. Until then, byebye fringe :D
Nightie
May 7th, 2011 4:53 AM
Wow, wow, wow, everybody needs to calm down. Joshu Jackson wll be in season 4 and there will surely be explanations.
As for me, it was a perfect episode.
fopple
May 7th, 2011 4:26 AM
There seems to be some detachment going on with the story going on seemingly random tangents.
I don't know if this phenomenon has got much to do with different writers handling and playing with the growing number of universes available, but I sense a certain Heroes confusion creeping up on me. It's just not a good sign when Twin Peaks made more sense than what we have to accept as the finale of season 3 of Fringe. I don't quite feel so much confused as genuinely annoyed, and that's a shame. I think the actors involved are doing a great job, but the material they are handed just seems to get more and more random. When future Olivia got shot dead, I was more pondering on the question of what possibilities this multiverse offers than actually being sad or touched in any way, which just plain isn't a good sign.
katiej
May 7th, 2011 2:12 AM
season 4*
katiej
May 7th, 2011 2:12 AM
what?? so is joshua jackson just not in season 3?? i don't want to watch fringe without him!
Jherara
May 7th, 2011 1:40 AM
I'm looking forward to Season 4. As for Peter's demise and the paradox created by his not existing: I have to wonder what happened in the previous timeline (timelines?)that caused Walter to build the machine and send back the pieces? How many times has this war taken place with the destruction of both universes resulting? What was the original cause of the damage to the alternate universe and the war, if not Walter saving Peter? Lots of questions. I just hope that they tie up loose ends enough to satisfy fans. LOST failed to do so and X-Files had to go through several movies to finally bring closure to the series.
clarkson_fan
May 7th, 2011 1:39 AM
Well i cried when Olivia died. Even when i knew she wasn't really dead dead, i still cried. I thought it was sad.
But i am bewildered about Peter not existing as well, but i wasn't underwhelmed by the finale.
I actually firmly believe that Peter will come back, and he isn't gone for good.
I thought it was a well written episode, even if it did leave things open ended and a lot of questions...but wait...isn't that why it's a season finale? There will be more.
Stephen
May 7th, 2011 1:14 AM
It left me bewildered. If Peter never existed, so many things never happened. Even if Walter crossed for some other reason, setting off the chain of destruction, no Peter, no machine activation. No grandson, no machine activation. No future Peter, no machine to begin with.
The paradoxes abound...
Nico
May 7th, 2011 1:12 AM
I'm honestly still trying to process it. But it was a little underwhelming
Walter: It's a beautiful name. Astrid: What is? Walter: Astrid.
May 7th, 2011 10:44 PM
Peter's not gone. It seems to me that paradox Peter served his purpose and is forgotten. Also he said the room is to serve as a bridge uniting the two universes, he was also about to go into depth about what the machine does before disappearing given it opens the door to new time lines where Peter still exists in respect to the first people he was speaking of. Elementary Quantum Physics.
May 7th, 2011 10:06 PM
I did not like the season finale at all. As great as last weeks epsiodes was this week was really lacking. And the way it ended with Peter never exhisting at all....wtf. Hated it so much. May NOT watch next season at all.
May 7th, 2011 5:53 PM
A theory popped into my mind as soon as the episode was over : the Observers say that "Peter never existed". But for Peter to have "a purpose", Walter must have crossed to the other universe and take Walternate's Peter back to his world, otherwise the whole storyline crumbles.
But remember that fact : when Walter crossed back, Peter fell into the frozen lake. And if it wasn't for the Observer, he would have died, and the damages into the material of the universe is done anyway !
So my theory is : the Observer saved Peter that very day so that a few years later, he could make the story happen as we know it and bring together the two Walters and Olivias, and fix what would stay a big mess if he had not been there.
What do you think ? Sound plausible ?
As for why they do not wonder what the hell they are doing altogether in the same room, I have no answer, and a very big frustration. WTF is wrong with those people always making my favourite character disappear ?! lol
May 7th, 2011 2:46 PM
The finale was a 5/5 for me. I cried when Olivia died. Enjoyed the Astrid/Ella/Walter scenes. And loved the way Peter came back and merged the two universes. That scene was the showdown I was waiting for. Although I'm hoping the two Olivia's work it out. For a split second it looked like Fauxlivia seemed rather intrigued by Olivia.
Also if Peter did not exist, then Olivia as a child who ran away from Walter's trials, would not come back to Walter and would not have crossed over and given Walternate her drawing book telling him about crossing over universes. Peter helped her come back, that was the first time they met and i think it was the sweetest thing ever!
I am very excited to see how the new season will pan out and i'm on board with anything the writers give us.
May 7th, 2011 1:27 PM
this episode will surely need multiple viewings before one can say it was underwhelming. it delivered so much information and new twists that its basically a set up for next season. i believe josh will return. after seeing both sets of the fringe div appear together in the same room and their reactions was enough for me. 5/5 ep. no other show since lost has turned the tables the way this show does. hats off to the writers. no one saw the ending coming. for a minute i was convinced that we would be watching the only the future storyline going forward and that there would be no more us and the alt universe. boy was i mistaken.
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May 7th, 2011 1:25 PM
Perhaps it was all a dream and reality will be revealed in next season. Peter never disappeared and the destruction of the universe was just a nightmare from which the characters will awaken???
May 7th, 2011 12:44 PM
I loved the ending. I think they twisted it well enough to make me extremly excited for the new season. Peter may have not existed but, I think there will be remnants of him through both olivias and thats whats gonna make them start questioning things. You can never remove all when your moving through time. Great show, wonderful writers, and producers, and everyone involved. looking forward to fall. thank you fringe for giving me a show i can really really enjoy!
May 7th, 2011 12:39 PM
Last week's episode was so emotion driven, it would have been hard to keep that level all throughout this episode. I like that they took it down a notch and then went completely left field. It didn't bother me that they didn't really "explain", the half truths are kinda what attracts me to Fringe, I get to make up my own decisions. A show that not only makes me think, but encourages it!
Given what we know of the Observers, they have the ability to know the past & future. We also know they like to "experiment" with human nature & behaviors. What if our two universes were always meant to destroy each other? What if that is our destiny? Then it would make perfect sense for them to "create" a reason to speed up the process as well as a means to correct it. So, Peter no longer existing is a moot point. He doesn't have to exist if the destruction was always going to happen. He does have to exist to bring us together to fix the problem. The writers can create any number of reasons
May 7th, 2011 12:19 PM
Have to agree with you. I was sort of disappointed with the finale. I hope Season four comes back strong. If ratings don't improve, it will probably be the last season. Writers please give it a good ending!!
May 7th, 2011 11:51 AM
you definitely are an anomaly reviewer - this episode had me on a rollercoaster of emotions and i think it's one of the best ever..actually the perfect cap to the season - i loved the new twists and the emotion, so i'm sorry u were underwhelmed but i think i'm in the majority when i say this episode rocked my world!!
May 7th, 2011 10:58 AM
I don't know if maybe I'm wrong or some people just don't understand the finale. I think that even though Peter stopped existing the events still took place. The machine was still turned on "over there" and it was still turned on "over here". Just because Peter doesn't exist doesn't mean the events didn't happen. No they don't have any memories of him. No he didn't exist. Peter's purpose still occurred though. The writers/producers aren't going to just erase 3 seasons worth of history.
May 7th, 2011 9:50 AM
Peter will be in season four - they producers have already said he has been contracted for season four - so no panic about that...but who will he be? If Peter never existed due to his actions within the machine, then time will have to make amends to avoid paradox - ei, walter still needs to go to the other universe and take something valuable - or else the paradox would occur. I would have to say it would have to be something valuable to walternate, or else walternate's arrival at then end would be out of place. Since peter does not exist - at the moment - then i would guess maybe walter went over and stole walternates wife, whom walternate loved very much we got to see. I say peter does not exist, because the observer told us so - but i know he will return, we will just have a few shows in the new season to work it all out. My theory: there have been countless time the machine has been assembled and disassembled, and each time a man and woman has made the choice based on the drawings
May 7th, 2011 9:37 AM
It must make sense, only it is more complicated. We surely need to hear which fringe theories were used for the "paradox", and what element of the equation Peter represents. Good finale. Seeing them all in the same room made feel like crying, not the Olivia exit. Watch out for the idea- not new, but a good one, that unexplained things from humanity's past are not alien-sourced, but results of human intervening from the future - it is a very interesting theory and it must have its own rules...Looking forward for season 4, I wish they keep the cryptic things there, as long as they are theory based, and not get to explicit for commercial reasons.
May 7th, 2011 9:28 AM
@ CP Thanks for all the reviews of Fringe S3, great reading (-_-)
Fringe was one episode short of a flawless season. Unfortunately The Finale garners that distinction .. The purpose of any finale is to stay in our minds... Except for the last five minutes I honestly will forget this episode by days end. The First People and The Machine's origin was no big revelation. It just came off as an asked answered. No true bridge as to what's next just questions and many possibilities.
May 7th, 2011 7:40 AM
re: Oh, it was fun knowing Peter and Olivia were married and sad knowing they hadn't had children because Olivia didn't want to bring a child into the world in which they lived (and, rather cliché).
Cliche?? Surely the attitude of the eternal optimist who ignorantly procreates is more the road travelled in western society. Hard to see how a marginal attitude about parenthood suddenly became a cliche! More a cliche to be opposed to that, no?
May 7th, 2011 6:03 AM
In an interview, the creators said Bell and Walter had been trying to crossover before Peter. So they probably achieved their goal.
May 7th, 2011 5:41 AM
I'm feeling kind of numb, to be truthful. Like I'm not quite sure what to think but I'm sure there will be explanation, next season. Until then, byebye fringe :D
May 7th, 2011 4:53 AM
Wow, wow, wow, everybody needs to calm down. Joshu Jackson wll be in season 4 and there will surely be explanations.
As for me, it was a perfect episode.
May 7th, 2011 4:26 AM
There seems to be some detachment going on with the story going on seemingly random tangents.
I don't know if this phenomenon has got much to do with different writers handling and playing with the growing number of universes available, but I sense a certain Heroes confusion creeping up on me. It's just not a good sign when Twin Peaks made more sense than what we have to accept as the finale of season 3 of Fringe. I don't quite feel so much confused as genuinely annoyed, and that's a shame. I think the actors involved are doing a great job, but the material they are handed just seems to get more and more random. When future Olivia got shot dead, I was more pondering on the question of what possibilities this multiverse offers than actually being sad or touched in any way, which just plain isn't a good sign.
May 7th, 2011 2:12 AM
season 4*
May 7th, 2011 2:12 AM
what?? so is joshua jackson just not in season 3?? i don't want to watch fringe without him!
May 7th, 2011 1:40 AM
I'm looking forward to Season 4. As for Peter's demise and the paradox created by his not existing: I have to wonder what happened in the previous timeline (timelines?)that caused Walter to build the machine and send back the pieces? How many times has this war taken place with the destruction of both universes resulting? What was the original cause of the damage to the alternate universe and the war, if not Walter saving Peter? Lots of questions. I just hope that they tie up loose ends enough to satisfy fans. LOST failed to do so and X-Files had to go through several movies to finally bring closure to the series.
May 7th, 2011 1:39 AM
Well i cried when Olivia died. Even when i knew she wasn't really dead dead, i still cried. I thought it was sad.
But i am bewildered about Peter not existing as well, but i wasn't underwhelmed by the finale.
I actually firmly believe that Peter will come back, and he isn't gone for good.
I thought it was a well written episode, even if it did leave things open ended and a lot of questions...but wait...isn't that why it's a season finale? There will be more.
May 7th, 2011 1:14 AM
It left me bewildered. If Peter never existed, so many things never happened. Even if Walter crossed for some other reason, setting off the chain of destruction, no Peter, no machine activation. No grandson, no machine activation. No future Peter, no machine to begin with.
The paradoxes abound...
May 7th, 2011 1:12 AM
I'm honestly still trying to process it. But it was a little underwhelming