The Mentalist > The Mentalist Season Finale Review: Tea with Red John > Comments Page 2
One other thought. If that really was Red John (and I'm not totally convinced it was) well if you were he, going to meet someone who has vowed to kill you, wouldn't it make sense to wear a kevlar vest, and maybe some packets of red dye to make him think he had succeeded?
After watching the finale, I feel really sorry for Van Pelt. It's second guy who played with her feelings just to achieve some dark goals :( She deserves much more than that! I hope she gets some nice man during the next season... Reunite her with Rigsby - might be a good idea ;)
haven't read all of the comments........but Gupta is played by RAVI KAPOOR...............he used to play Dr. Mahesh "Bug" in Crossing Jordan.
Great finale! however, im really really dissapointed Jane simply shot Red John (if that indeed is him) i expected something much more tourtuous! so that bit was a massive dissapointed, by as an earlier commentator commented: i dont think the writer decided to break Janes morals and etc for someone who is not Red John, because if they have, that was a really really bad move.
Bigger question (haha), can a dead body maitain an erection. If not, maybe RJ isn't dead?
I did notice that ufortunate bulge. Was it intentional or just a wardrobe malfunction. Why would this seem valid to the plot. Red John's victims were not sexually molested but profiling a serial killer one understads that they are often unable to conummate the act, but are turned on nontheless by danger and the thrill of the crime, so no need to question this occurence, more to the point is Heller telling us that all evidence that there was a gun and a cell phone at the scene is gone and Jane is in quite a pickle. Erection aside, we have bigger (pun intended) dilemnas in the making. I hope Patrickenjoys his jail time as much as thee last time.
Question for Traveler- After watching the episode 10 times, did you notice RJ's lying on the ground, dare I say with a bulge, looking much like an erection? I'm not trying to be erotic or creepy, but it goes to whether or not it was the real RJ. Wasn't there a comment by Jane's female psychic friend that RJ was most likely impotent? Could this shooting victim just be a RJ disciple turned on by the story of the killings, or was it RJ who got turned on by the pseudo sexual crime?
YAY! Fantastic end to season 3. I was concerned that they might leave it like that, so glad to hear there will be a season 4. Phew!
I guessed it would be Grace's fiance and they would get him but I didn't think Patrick would get Red John too, although it was time he did imho.
For those wondering how come Patrick and Red John were both in the mall, Patrick hadn't yet left the mall after he realised he was wrong about the director. Red John had to know from Grace's fiance about the director and the trap to have turned up at the mall and I guess he went along to personally witness and enjoy Patrick failing.
So will Patrick go to jail? Red John was a heavily armed seriel killer in a busy public place after all and Patrick had no back up but still needed to stop him. Will Lisbon be okay? How will Grace handle it all? And what's going to happen with the rest of the loose ends? Really looking
forward to finding out!
I egree with Traveler. Jane did complete his mission, with a bang. Although there will be consequence, he seemed quite content to give up, even his abject repulsion at the gun he extracted from his smoking jacket. We can be sparring all summer at the coming events, but one thing is certain, we will be watching. Has anyone mentioned how well Simon Baker carried the finale. He may sometimes act quite childishly but always the consummate professional. No wonder the show has taken on a life of its own and I'm not talking the Jane/Lisbon nonsense that some fans would like to see happen. Will jane find romance again? Why not. Patrick said he would resume his life after the vengence. Sweet.
I watched the ending of this episode at least 10 times. Jane played it perfectly, always indicating that he would "some day" catch RJ, showing all the right emotions at all the right times, and never, EVER hinting that day, that HOUR was when he intended to kill RJ. Right up until the gun went off.
The RJ arc has been from the first episode until now, but the show will survive the end of that arc better than it would survive it's extension. How are we to believe that Jane is all that smart if he never even gets close to RJ?
That RJ would be at the mall watching is no surprise in someone with his resources and the ego of a serial killer. He's probably been within a few feet of Jane several times before just for the thrill. Nobody knew that Jane had ready access to a gun other than the person who gave it to him, and I can believe Jane's oft stated and never-denied aversion to guns fooled RJ into thinking that Jane was unarmed. It certainly fooled me!
If the RJ arc is revi
RJ had a gun, that will cut jail time down considerably + some kind of temporary insanity type argument. If he has to do jail time, the series could easily just start... two years on (out for good behaviour). Will allow for the build up of various back stories that could be revealed over time.
We have a lot to look for next season. First of all, Jane is indeed going to suffer the consequence of his killing Red John, jail time and I'm sure an interesting trial. Bruno Heller has as much as said so. Lisbon will recover, Grace will forge ahead, she is stronger than she is portrayed. Malcolm McDowell has affirmed that he is returning for at least 2 more episodes and we will find out more about R.J.'s clique of followers and the reason behind their alliegance. Lisbon will have a hard time dealing with the fact that she wasn't there to stop Patrick from his vengeful act but will stand by him of course. Hightower is back, Laroche, who knows, but we have to eventually find out. and Grace does have something in her past also which we have never been privy to, she's the only one with a still uncovered secret. I've said a mouthful, will someone out there give me their opinion.
This was a good show...ending correctly...if jane had let Red John walk away..I would have stopped watching the series...We will probably hear more about Red John..we know he has follers
This is one of the best tv shows around, and the end of the season is just perfect. People are trying too hard to look at every possible aspect and little thing that was shown, but it doesn't matter. There's no need to know why and how RJ knew that Patrick would be in the mall...and that was RJ for sure. Why? Because it's the perfect ultimate evil man - the ordinary guy that could live right next door, 'cause monsters don't have horns and big teeth...that is the most scary thing. The show from here on could go in so many possible ways, that is a pleasure waiting for the next season. Jane could be in jail, a season about the trial, RJ "friends" could be seeking revenge..or even he could have had a teacher or something...on the other hand, there could be so many side stories with all of the characters...if the writers don't get to elaborate, we will enjoy at least one more season the beautiful character that Patrick Jane is. Can't wait for next season ;)
if it wasn't red john, the guy bradley whitford played was SURE creepy enough to pass. god i was getting chills! it's so weird considering how much I love bradley whitford. i can't imagine they're going to actually send him to jail- iunno how the show would work. i hope lisbon and the team forgive him. Maybe he'll go to trial and the jury will be like, well, it was a serial killer, so let him go haha
Geez - come on people. Patrick is at least as smart as Red John, and Red John's arrogance was finally his undoing. It's hard to say Patrick is smart if the Red John nonsense goes on for year after year. LaRouche is going to prove very interesting for a number of reasons (the tupperware, he's seen as Patrick's intellectual equal, the shooting of the suspect after he was the one supposed to lock him down, etc.).
Patrick Jane, his approach, and the team (and Lisbon is NOT a romantic interest, though there will be one now that he's solved and avenged his wife and daughter) are what make this show great, not some phantom.
O.K. so now we're all about even. Maybe yes, Maybe no. Surely Patrick is going to jail, for how long, depends n the writers' creativity. I will be coming back with no vendetta, as they all say, revenge is pointless. Or is it? This was not a cliffhanger finale but it might as well have been. If any fans leave because this was R.J. and he's gone so be it, or not. Can you just see Bruno Heller smirking as he redefines the character he created, or just lets him be. Bated anticipation, perhaps. We'll just have to wait along with Patrick in a jail of sorts.
How delicious. Lapsang Suchong it is.
first off, i've been watching this show since it started, and this finally ended in patrick jane & us believing that was RJ. if it wasn't, that's pretty lame on the writer's part to "psyche" us out. for a long time we were hoping patrick would catch RJ & now the writers are going to say that was his handler? that's b.s. i will stop watching if that's the kind of ridiculous story line they are going to cast. enough of this RJ...patrick killed a man- it better not be for nothing. the writers are making a mockery of us b/c they spent a good amount of airtime showing & proving the dynamics of patrick & RJ. RJ better be dead or i'm not watching this show again. i want darling patrick to finally move on with his life- take this show forward...don't cling on the same story line. it's sad, depressing and quite frankly, i've had enough of this RD.
How Red John knew to go to the mall shouldn't be too surprising, since he could have tapped the CBI office or followed Jane easily.
As for his identity, it would be interesting if it is yet to be revealed but at least we've finally seen the face of someone 'claiming' to be red john for the first time. I would say this is good season finale script writing today. Many TV shows got cancelled lately due to their hyper suspense finale - thinking that the more suspense the better their chance at getting the next season slot. TV networks now are tired of playing that sort of games anymore. Now series like 'V', 'Crusoe', perhaps 'the Event', etc. are cancelled because of crazy suspense...making room for new shows.
So there could be other 'RJ'. Jane's family could have more than 1 killer working at the same time, twins or just a very manipulative mastermind. There's no flashback scene, which is usually used to proof the real identity of the character. Many had tried to guess RJ as all the
I watched the finale and was so sure that this red john crap was over ... But now after reading these reviews i cant stop thinking about how you guys might be right ... I was sure about one thing before i read this and it was that the neckalace was some what of important because the camera focused on it for like a whole minute and it wasnt even that cute and how could vanpelt be so dumb ... I feel bad for her because they always use her to try to hurt the CBI or jane
i just really, really want to know if Jane goes to jail or what happens to him, i'm really curious!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i don't really think that red john is dead either, i just can't wait for the next season to start!!!!!!!! i want it to start now!!! or at least have a little website that tells us what will happen to Jane.
In my opinion, Red John is not dead. He's too important for this show to kill him off now. I don't think the guy from the West Wing is Red John. I believe like others who have mentioned it here that this guy was sent by Red John to watch what went down in the Mall and if he was discovered to say that he was Red John. He was told a few details about the death of Jane's family to remember in case Jane didn't believe him. This way, Red John ensures that Jane is locked up in jail and can't go after him anymore. Betram has to be Red John's 2nd accomplice in the CBI. The Blake poem is one strike against him and he also likely told Red John about the meeting at the Mall because Van Pelt didn't tell O'Laughlin about that meeting. All she said was that they suspected Betram. It is possible that Red John just followed Betram and Jane however.
My guess is that Red John is Virgil Minelli, the previous director of the CBI. He left the CBI after the gunnings of the police unit investing Red John. H
i believe the gun he was going for was the police officer's one.
As to review, good one :D
Do we know for certain that there will be a new season, if there is it's kinda pointless, the whole series was based around vengence for red john. I fear the series would be "empty".
ohh yeah, and the two scenes with the telephones at the end, one being agents Lisbon's lying on the table when she's guarding hightower seemed to sloopy to be realistic, and the other one were Grace declined Rigsby's telephone call. Who declines a coworker in such perilous times.Preplexes me.
The rest was great, a good end. And i'm greatfull that they don't drag the series on forever like lost and so many others.
@FCBarca = I agree with you on number 1...(FYI, SPOILER ALERT) Assuming Red John really fell into Patrick's trap (which he did according to what he says in the end) then why he was at the place of meeting with the other suspect? one answer would be: he has 2 spies. but assuming this to be true, he sacrificed 2 good inside men just to deliver a message to Patrick, not to mention the risk of death. This is of course before the main question of was he Red John? because whatever the answer is, it's still a question of how did he know to be there? I'm confused! any lights?! :D
@Cobra= it's very unlikely that Berman is RJ. It conflicts with the structural fact that RJ has an inside man, not inside CBI himself.
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