Pretty Little Liars Review: The Ultimate Frenemy Comments (Page 2)
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B
September 4th, 2011 4:55 PM
A does some things. Hitting Hannah with a car, giving Emily an ulcer and ruining her swimming career...etc
Monica
September 4th, 2011 3:54 PM
It's not jason, they're tryig too hard to make it seem like its him, and i doubt that it's toby, noel, or garrett. i think A is more than one person, and i think the person who met up with dr.sullivan was jenna, because she called her 'pretty eyes', and that could be because she's blind, or because (in one of the flashbacks) when she had her glasses off, she has beautiful dark green eyes. it could be mona, because she's just that much of a bitch, and hana was targeted directly; or it could be maya,because emily's getting a lot more attention now that maya's back then before when maya was in rehab.
tati
September 4th, 2011 2:50 PM
Something else--in the conversation that Garrett and Jenna had in the police station, he said something about waiting this long to get into the storage room. Couple that with him saying he can't wait to be out of that uniform, and it would seem that he took the job as a cop, just so he could have access to something--evidence, I suppose--of his and/or Jenna's implication in what happened to Allison.
I think it's possible that Jenna and/or Garrett are the ones that hit Allison with whatever weapon--but didn't kill her. She died after she was buried--question is--did they bury her or did someone else? (A!?)
Okay I've read every single comment with great interest and I think I may have some answers that'll possibly clear up some confusion. But then I don't have a PHD so forgive me if I'm mistaken.
So, Kristyn said "if the police knew the shovel was the murder weapon why didn't they keep it as evidence?".
-The police knew A shovel was the murder weapon. They didn't know it was THAT shovel. They didn't have it in evidence. They didn't find it by Ali's body. When they found the girls with the shovel they discovered that that particular shovel was the murder weapon. Before then they had never come in contact with it in any way. They knew a shovel killed Ali but only then did they find it.
TVF168 said, "I'm a little puzzled about the shovel. It's been 1-2 years since Ali's murder. Does the shovel really contain trace evidence of Ali on it, even after the girls were JUST using it? And if page 5 is missing from all records, and page 5 lists the trace evid
Feifei
September 2nd, 2011 11:42 AM
Agree with the editors, a few plotholes were there. Like, why didn't Em try to turn off the car's engine? Not really smart...
That kiss with Wren SERIOUSLY came out of nowhere (although I have a thing for Brits) and Ezra really needs to man up now. This can't go on like this, their relationship is starting to bore me.
And who the hell chose the German anthem as a wedding song? Not that I don't love my country, but it seemed a little... inappropriatte.
allvera
September 1st, 2011 11:47 PM
we never found out what happened with Byron's brother
tati
September 1st, 2011 1:02 PM
Cross-posting from the reaction thread:
Another thing that I noticed on a rewatch: Garrett and Jenna had that conversation in the room that was adjacent to the room where the girls are being held. There's a two-way mirror between them. You know this because someone locks the door to the room the girls in--I think Spencer turns her head to look, when she hears the noise--and the next scene shows Garrett finishing up the locking of what looks to be the very same door.
Also, the way the camera starts to pan slightly up and to the left after Garrett and Jenna's conversation makes me think of the scene in Chloe King where Alek and Chloe kiss at the end, and the camera starts panning up and to the right--we only find out in the next episode that the camera keeps on panning over til it finds Brian looking at them.
When PLL resumes, in the winter, it may show that the camera continues to pan over--and show us that either someone is listening or that a light is on, somewhere, indicatin
One thing i'm confused about.. Someone said Jenna and Garett planted the box with the dolls saying 'Open or she dies' and that was referring to Emily being locked in the barn, but that would mean that Jenna and Garett knew someone had kidnapped Dr Sullivan and the PLL's would think it was about the Dr and go looking for her as Emily wasn't even in danger at that stage?? BUT if A was responsible for the box, how would Jenna and Garett know to plant the shovel right outside the barn?? And then A happily put coordinates on it to lead them to a fake grave so Garett could call the cops and bust them? How they heck did A get mixed up in it all and were they all working together?? Plz explain.. So confused!
Lauren
September 1st, 2011 4:37 AM
I have a theory about who A is. A long time ago the girls' parents were friends and they had a *itchy clique. Someone with a grudge has come back to cause their parents grief by torturing their kids which in turn tortures them. shall we say Alisson's grandma (who could've been their teacher) or the guy who showed up at Hannah's mom bank who lied about being an architect. OR. this person has to be someone in this age range: 15 to 22. someone who could be at all the places the girls go without looking suspicious. at the dance and at the party in Hannah's house from season 1, A had to be a student's age so they wouldn't be picked out from the crowd. A also has to be a legal adult. someone who can move about town and do business with people without looking suspicious. such as set up an appointment at a shrink's office. A also has to have A LOT of resources to pull off the stuff they do. again, so A has to be an adult with a job. since A can't be all of these things, A has to be a team of p
bamboodo Rank: Guest Star
September 1st, 2011 4:31 AM
Aria called Ezra, that's why he came to the police station. i wonder what if Ezra tells Aria's mom about him and Aria? he must think twice. i've noticed Elle's upset when talking to him about that. will she forgive and forget when she finds out that girl's her daughter? it's been four months to come since the mid finale episode. gosh, too long.................
if you notice that maya says at the start of season one to emily that she fell in love with a girl back home. for some reason i always thought it had something to do with alison. and now its starting to make more sense..
Shannon
September 1st, 2011 1:33 AM
I have to agree about Ezra, I'd like to know if he told Aria's mom if he meant Aria and not Spencer. For me personally, they are the main reason I watch the show.
My husband suggested the same thing about Emily being able to use her heels to break the window and either shut the car off or drive through the door. I agree, however a shoe may break easily when being smashed into the glass. Windshields are pretty hard. LOL. There could've however been something else she may've been able to use and if not, at least she could've tried her shoes.
I too had to wonder what Allison meant when saying "only two can keep a secret if one of them is dead." My first thought was, aren't you dead? I don't know if I believe she's still alive though.
I don't know why Garret and Jenna would talk about committing a murder in a police station of all places. That seems a little too risky for me.
As for someone asking the question, who did Aria call, I believe it was Ezra. She said I really
eva
September 1st, 2011 12:39 AM
is it really sad that the only thing i want to know is if ezra told ella is wasn't spencer
Excella
August 31st, 2011 10:26 PM
Okay, while I genrally enjoyed this episode, it still left many questions. Liek always :)
The dolls were chilling (specially since they already creep me out).
I think Spencer's dad probably had some sort of affair with Alison's mom or something along those lines.
Jenna and Garret obviously had something to do with Ali's death, but I don't think they were the only ones involved. Many people had hatred towards Alison and if they writers just gave it away like that, something else is up. 'A', I keep having a feeling it is Jenna but I also believe 'A' might be more than one person. "Pretty eyes", could be Jenna because she does have vibrant, pretty eyes, but wouldn't most people in town know she was blind and it would be odd for her glasses to be off?
And what exactly did the cops catch the girls doing? Digging up a doll? I didn't know that was a crime...
I have to disagree with you, Rella, considering I'm a guy and I get told that my eyes are pretty all the time. Most guys don't get offended by it, unless they think someone is coming onto them.
In general I feel like all of these "plotholes" and unexplained ideas are necessary for a show of this nature. If everything can be explained as the story is unfolding, crucial elements of the mystery may be left out. This episode was, by no told poorly. It did a nice job of recounting the events leading up to the girl being brought in.
Also, just a note for the reviewer. I don't remember the girl being officially questioned for anything at all. As for the reason they were arrested, we don't know for sure. Obviously there is no reason to keep them there if there's no real crime being committed. The adults in Rosewood aren't the brightest, but there's no way the writers are completely ignorant.
And yes, we've all clearly understood that we're being strung along. That was evident when we
francine
August 31st, 2011 6:37 PM
Alison is dead, that was a dream!
francine
August 31st, 2011 6:35 PM
this 'A' is MONA! im convinced!!!!! it would make perfect sense! jenna and garrett are not 'A'. it will somewhat follow the books in the second half of the series....
Alex
August 31st, 2011 6:34 PM
Allison is clearly alive because of one BIGGGGG hint. Allison is quoting the them song of the show " Cause two CAN keep a secret if of them is dead" as an answer to emily's question "Who is A". The quote means that two people can keep a secret ONLY if of them is dead, therefore, Allison is still alive because she can't tell the secret.
francine
August 31st, 2011 5:41 PM
1) ally didn't tell Emily A's name because it was a dream and the people you see in ur dreams are manifestations of yourself and emily cant tell herself something she doesn't know...
2) 'A' clearly didn't send the dolls because i dont think jenna is A because A IS the liars 'frenemy' and doesn't want them to go to jail, so the next half or the season i think A will help the girls out of trouble and get jenna and definitely garrett! (I do not like him and I dont think A will like someone else messing with her girls!)
3) Dr sullivan wasnt being held by jenna she was held by A and the messages about someone dying was about emily in the garage and getting them to the woods with the shovel and then call the police.
Ps. I felt genuinely bad for Spencer when she broke up with toby, she's definitely the best actor on the show.
Rella
August 31st, 2011 4:54 PM
They've mention pretty eyes about twice (correct me if I'm wrong). Once at the friendship bracelet place and now again here at the restaurant.
Here are some clue I've gathered.
1) "A" must be female. People don't call boy's "pretty eyes" because that would be downright insulting. You just DON'T call boys pretty.
2) For two unrelated people to say "A" has pretty eyes, this girl MUST have unique, unique, eyes. For a moment I thought it might be Jenna because she is blind and so her eyes stand out. But now, I don't think so.
3) Allison is completely involved somehow. And because she wouldn't tell Emily who "A" was, "A" must be close to Ally.
What do you guys think?
akalillyt Rank: Guest Star
August 31st, 2011 4:41 PM
Ok soo the car was running rite emily had on heels take off your heels smash the window turn off the car or for sum mre action go in car and drive straight through the door! or not..just wait there and hallucinate abt allison. And okk another thing we have to know is...Is Melissa still pregnant? Wrencer or Spoby O.o all next on Pretty Little Liars in January after the Halloween special on October 19th :)
Aria: This is Mona; she started lying when she was a fetus.
September 4th, 2011 4:55 PM
A does some things. Hitting Hannah with a car, giving Emily an ulcer and ruining her swimming career...etc
September 4th, 2011 3:54 PM
It's not jason, they're tryig too hard to make it seem like its him, and i doubt that it's toby, noel, or garrett. i think A is more than one person, and i think the person who met up with dr.sullivan was jenna, because she called her 'pretty eyes', and that could be because she's blind, or because (in one of the flashbacks) when she had her glasses off, she has beautiful dark green eyes. it could be mona, because she's just that much of a bitch, and hana was targeted directly; or it could be maya,because emily's getting a lot more attention now that maya's back then before when maya was in rehab.
September 4th, 2011 2:50 PM
Something else--in the conversation that Garrett and Jenna had in the police station, he said something about waiting this long to get into the storage room. Couple that with him saying he can't wait to be out of that uniform, and it would seem that he took the job as a cop, just so he could have access to something--evidence, I suppose--of his and/or Jenna's implication in what happened to Allison.
I think it's possible that Jenna and/or Garrett are the ones that hit Allison with whatever weapon--but didn't kill her. She died after she was buried--question is--did they bury her or did someone else? (A!?)
Rank: New User
September 4th, 2011 6:11 AM
Can someone please clear up my questions?? :P
September 3rd, 2011 7:53 PM
Hello PLL-ites!
Okay I've read every single comment with great interest and I think I may have some answers that'll possibly clear up some confusion. But then I don't have a PHD so forgive me if I'm mistaken.
So, Kristyn said "if the police knew the shovel was the murder weapon why didn't they keep it as evidence?".
-The police knew A shovel was the murder weapon. They didn't know it was THAT shovel. They didn't have it in evidence. They didn't find it by Ali's body. When they found the girls with the shovel they discovered that that particular shovel was the murder weapon. Before then they had never come in contact with it in any way. They knew a shovel killed Ali but only then did they find it.
TVF168 said, "I'm a little puzzled about the shovel. It's been 1-2 years since Ali's murder. Does the shovel really contain trace evidence of Ali on it, even after the girls were JUST using it? And if page 5 is missing from all records, and page 5 lists the trace evid
September 2nd, 2011 11:42 AM
Agree with the editors, a few plotholes were there. Like, why didn't Em try to turn off the car's engine? Not really smart...
That kiss with Wren SERIOUSLY came out of nowhere (although I have a thing for Brits) and Ezra really needs to man up now. This can't go on like this, their relationship is starting to bore me.
And who the hell chose the German anthem as a wedding song? Not that I don't love my country, but it seemed a little... inappropriatte.
September 1st, 2011 11:47 PM
we never found out what happened with Byron's brother
September 1st, 2011 1:02 PM
Cross-posting from the reaction thread:
Another thing that I noticed on a rewatch: Garrett and Jenna had that conversation in the room that was adjacent to the room where the girls are being held. There's a two-way mirror between them. You know this because someone locks the door to the room the girls in--I think Spencer turns her head to look, when she hears the noise--and the next scene shows Garrett finishing up the locking of what looks to be the very same door.
Also, the way the camera starts to pan slightly up and to the left after Garrett and Jenna's conversation makes me think of the scene in Chloe King where Alek and Chloe kiss at the end, and the camera starts panning up and to the right--we only find out in the next episode that the camera keeps on panning over til it finds Brian looking at them.
When PLL resumes, in the winter, it may show that the camera continues to pan over--and show us that either someone is listening or that a light is on, somewhere, indicatin
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September 1st, 2011 11:54 AM
i actually love reading other peoples theory's on here some of them are so interesting.
Rank: New User
September 1st, 2011 5:53 AM
One thing i'm confused about.. Someone said Jenna and Garett planted the box with the dolls saying 'Open or she dies' and that was referring to Emily being locked in the barn, but that would mean that Jenna and Garett knew someone had kidnapped Dr Sullivan and the PLL's would think it was about the Dr and go looking for her as Emily wasn't even in danger at that stage?? BUT if A was responsible for the box, how would Jenna and Garett know to plant the shovel right outside the barn?? And then A happily put coordinates on it to lead them to a fake grave so Garett could call the cops and bust them? How they heck did A get mixed up in it all and were they all working together?? Plz explain.. So confused!
September 1st, 2011 4:37 AM
I have a theory about who A is. A long time ago the girls' parents were friends and they had a *itchy clique. Someone with a grudge has come back to cause their parents grief by torturing their kids which in turn tortures them. shall we say Alisson's grandma (who could've been their teacher) or the guy who showed up at Hannah's mom bank who lied about being an architect. OR. this person has to be someone in this age range: 15 to 22. someone who could be at all the places the girls go without looking suspicious. at the dance and at the party in Hannah's house from season 1, A had to be a student's age so they wouldn't be picked out from the crowd. A also has to be a legal adult. someone who can move about town and do business with people without looking suspicious. such as set up an appointment at a shrink's office. A also has to have A LOT of resources to pull off the stuff they do. again, so A has to be an adult with a job. since A can't be all of these things, A has to be a team of p
Rank: Guest Star
September 1st, 2011 4:31 AM
Aria called Ezra, that's why he came to the police station. i wonder what if Ezra tells Aria's mom about him and Aria? he must think twice. i've noticed Elle's upset when talking to him about that. will she forgive and forget when she finds out that girl's her daughter? it's been four months to come since the mid finale episode. gosh, too long.................
Rank: Recurring Character
September 1st, 2011 4:15 AM
if you notice that maya says at the start of season one to emily that she fell in love with a girl back home. for some reason i always thought it had something to do with alison. and now its starting to make more sense..
September 1st, 2011 1:33 AM
I have to agree about Ezra, I'd like to know if he told Aria's mom if he meant Aria and not Spencer. For me personally, they are the main reason I watch the show.
My husband suggested the same thing about Emily being able to use her heels to break the window and either shut the car off or drive through the door. I agree, however a shoe may break easily when being smashed into the glass. Windshields are pretty hard. LOL. There could've however been something else she may've been able to use and if not, at least she could've tried her shoes.
I too had to wonder what Allison meant when saying "only two can keep a secret if one of them is dead." My first thought was, aren't you dead? I don't know if I believe she's still alive though.
I don't know why Garret and Jenna would talk about committing a murder in a police station of all places. That seems a little too risky for me.
As for someone asking the question, who did Aria call, I believe it was Ezra. She said I really
September 1st, 2011 12:39 AM
is it really sad that the only thing i want to know is if ezra told ella is wasn't spencer
August 31st, 2011 10:26 PM
Okay, while I genrally enjoyed this episode, it still left many questions. Liek always :)
The dolls were chilling (specially since they already creep me out).
I think Spencer's dad probably had some sort of affair with Alison's mom or something along those lines.
Jenna and Garret obviously had something to do with Ali's death, but I don't think they were the only ones involved. Many people had hatred towards Alison and if they writers just gave it away like that, something else is up. 'A', I keep having a feeling it is Jenna but I also believe 'A' might be more than one person. "Pretty eyes", could be Jenna because she does have vibrant, pretty eyes, but wouldn't most people in town know she was blind and it would be odd for her glasses to be off?
And what exactly did the cops catch the girls doing? Digging up a doll? I didn't know that was a crime...
August 31st, 2011 9:13 PM
WHO DID ARIA CALL ???
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August 31st, 2011 8:07 PM
I have to disagree with you, Rella, considering I'm a guy and I get told that my eyes are pretty all the time. Most guys don't get offended by it, unless they think someone is coming onto them.
In general I feel like all of these "plotholes" and unexplained ideas are necessary for a show of this nature. If everything can be explained as the story is unfolding, crucial elements of the mystery may be left out. This episode was, by no told poorly. It did a nice job of recounting the events leading up to the girl being brought in.
Also, just a note for the reviewer. I don't remember the girl being officially questioned for anything at all. As for the reason they were arrested, we don't know for sure. Obviously there is no reason to keep them there if there's no real crime being committed. The adults in Rosewood aren't the brightest, but there's no way the writers are completely ignorant.
And yes, we've all clearly understood that we're being strung along. That was evident when we
August 31st, 2011 6:37 PM
Alison is dead, that was a dream!
August 31st, 2011 6:35 PM
this 'A' is MONA! im convinced!!!!! it would make perfect sense! jenna and garrett are not 'A'. it will somewhat follow the books in the second half of the series....
August 31st, 2011 6:34 PM
Allison is clearly alive because of one BIGGGGG hint. Allison is quoting the them song of the show " Cause two CAN keep a secret if of them is dead" as an answer to emily's question "Who is A". The quote means that two people can keep a secret ONLY if of them is dead, therefore, Allison is still alive because she can't tell the secret.
August 31st, 2011 5:41 PM
1) ally didn't tell Emily A's name because it was a dream and the people you see in ur dreams are manifestations of yourself and emily cant tell herself something she doesn't know...
2) 'A' clearly didn't send the dolls because i dont think jenna is A because A IS the liars 'frenemy' and doesn't want them to go to jail, so the next half or the season i think A will help the girls out of trouble and get jenna and definitely garrett! (I do not like him and I dont think A will like someone else messing with her girls!)
3) Dr sullivan wasnt being held by jenna she was held by A and the messages about someone dying was about emily in the garage and getting them to the woods with the shovel and then call the police.
Ps. I felt genuinely bad for Spencer when she broke up with toby, she's definitely the best actor on the show.
August 31st, 2011 4:54 PM
They've mention pretty eyes about twice (correct me if I'm wrong). Once at the friendship bracelet place and now again here at the restaurant.
Here are some clue I've gathered.
1) "A" must be female. People don't call boy's "pretty eyes" because that would be downright insulting. You just DON'T call boys pretty.
2) For two unrelated people to say "A" has pretty eyes, this girl MUST have unique, unique, eyes. For a moment I thought it might be Jenna because she is blind and so her eyes stand out. But now, I don't think so.
3) Allison is completely involved somehow. And because she wouldn't tell Emily who "A" was, "A" must be close to Ally.
What do you guys think?
Rank: Guest Star
August 31st, 2011 4:41 PM
Ok soo the car was running rite emily had on heels take off your heels smash the window turn off the car or for sum mre action go in car and drive straight through the door! or not..just wait there and hallucinate abt allison. And okk another thing we have to know is...Is Melissa still pregnant? Wrencer or Spoby O.o all next on Pretty Little Liars in January after the Halloween special on October 19th :)
August 31st, 2011 4:09 PM
@sophiawashere - Thanks! Ended my confusion!