Welcome to the latest edition of the Castle Round Table!
This week, TV Fanatic writers Christine Orlando, Chandel Charles, Christine Morrison and Jim Garner bring their analyzing game to "Heroes & Villains," picking apart various aspects of the episode and debating various topics. Won't you join them?
What was your favorite scene?
Christine: When Castle went to Beckett's apartment. I love seeing these two outside of work. His awkward look when she opened the door made me wonder what he thought she was doing... because I don't believe he was thinking yoga. But the best part was Kate's smile when she saw he was there. It made my night.
Chandel: The end when Castle and Beckett are watching Hastings and her man friend enter the elevator and Castle muses about how similar their relationships are. Then the two make out in the elevator and Beckett gives this little smile like she might have entertained the thought of that being her and Castle and he asks about coffee. It was really sweet.
Courtney: Definitely going with Castle using the board to post up his comics and trace where the Lone Vengeance's costume came from. He was so on board, even Beckett was following. Gates? Not so much. It was pure and simple fun.
Jim: As a comic geek myself, I have to go with Castle's break down of how Lone Vengence has made up his costume. I suspect that his breakdown is exactly how the writers came up with it for real.
Do you think Alexis following Ashley to school and wanting to take his classes is out of character? As a parent, did Castle says enough about it?
Christine: No. She's been through a lot that could cause her to cling to Ashley more now than ever. Plus, I had a good friend who was just as smart as Alexis but did the same thing, following her boyfriend to college and even sharing his major. They had broken up by the end of freshman year. I liked Castle's response. It was questioning but not preachy but I'd like to see him put his foot down about them living together. To me, that's just taking things a step too far.
Chandel: I think Alexis is out of character for sure. I mean, I get that she maybe feels a little rejected because her father has been investing a lot in Beckett, but Alexis completely overreacted when Castle tried to explain why she should be taking time to explore her own passions. I really don't understand how we went from that to moving in with Ashley. That really threw me for a loop. It's like they want to take Alexis in another direction, but aren't sure how to get her there.
Courtney: It's hard to remember that she is just a senior in high school, especially since she has been acting like she is 50 from the beginning of the series. I don't think it is out of character for a teenager, she wants to be with her boyfriend. Is it out of her character? Yeah, a little. This is someone who always wants to do the right thing, not just someone else's idea of the right thing. Castle handled it the right way, explained that she needs to make choices, not just use Ashley's.
Jim: While I don't think her wanting to spend that much time with Ashley was out of character, her apathy toward her own future was absolutely out of character. As Castle said, Alexis has always been serious; she would have had an end-game for the classes. Castle said enough, as pointed out by Beckett, pushing too hard would just make her rebel that much more.
Fans seem torn over Victoria "Iron" Gates. Do you like what she brings to the precinct or would you prefer her gone?
Christine: I like that she keeps everyone a little off balance. Everyone gets a boss like this sooner or later. If you make her look good, she's in your corner. If not, watch out. Beckett's no longer the golden child she was with Montgomery and Castle's trying to justify his worth. I think it makes things more interesting at the precinct.
Chandel: I'm not sure how I feel about her yet. She brings a certain tension, but I'm not clear on her motives or how I feel about her personality. She's kind of an enigma. So I just think I need a little bit more time to see what she adds to the precinct.
Courtney: She's going to be by-the-book and not bending over to help out Castle and Beckett. It may not be ideal situation, but it gives the two a new challenge they haven't yet faced. As of now, I'm good with Gates.
Jim: Honestly, she's as sour as day old lemons! The fact that she want's to be called "Sir" instead of "Ma'am" bugs the ever living snot out of me! Having come from a military background, I can say: even high ranking female Generals want to be called "Ma'am." GAH!! Begone foul beast!
Beckett tells Hastings, “You’re a good cop and you have somebody who cares about you. Don’t be so driven by your past that you throw away your future.” Do you think Beckett will be able to take her own advice?
Christine: It seemed as though Beckett caught the similarities to her own life. I'm hoping she starts to come to terms with things by mid-season and realizes her future is standing right next to her.
Chandel: Interestingly enough, I think eventually she may be able to do so. But it may take solving her mother's case. I think the pace of her pursuit will decrease until she herself realizes this point. Yet I think this understanding can't truly be realized until she can see who she is without her mother's case running in the background of her mind. It was a great line and great job by the writers.
Courtney: She will... eventually. She is going to wrestle with her past a little more before she can get past it and move on. Hopefully into the arms of the sexy Nathan Fillion.
Jim: Sadly for the fans, not any time soon. I do hope that she and Hastings visit again, I think Kate needs that mirror to help get her to the point she can let down the walls and let some hunky writer in.
So Beckett sees herself as Elektra and Castle as Batman. Who is your favorite superhero?
Christine: The Wonder Twins. I know it's goofy but my husband and I occasionally reference them when we figure something out together.
Chandel: I did not grow up in the age of Marvel characters with which I can identify. But if I had to really choose one, it would be Kate Beckett. Marvel character or not, she is a super hero to me, kryptonite and all.
Courtney: Emma Frost.
Jim: I have always been a Spiderman fan. After all he is mild mannered and honorable. Right, Rick?