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Castle Round Table: "Rise"

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Beckett remembers... everything.

This revelation, along with a brand new captain, has given Chandel Charles, Carissa Pavlica, Courtney Morrison and Christine Orlando plenty to discuss in relation to Monday's Castle season premiere. So let's get right to it, shall we? As always, reader feedback is encouraged on the following Round Table topics...

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What was your favorite scene?
Chandel: Castle coming to see Beckett in the hospital. It was a bit bittersweet given that she claimed she didn't remember the "I love you," but the way he looked at her when he saw her, the flower shop joke, it all hinted at the innocent playfulness that's always made Castle and Beckett's relationship so special. Which means that a corresponding favorite moment for me was Kate's appearance and the book signing and the resulting conversation on the swings.

Carissa: When Castle used his pull in high places to get back into the precinct. That they even pretended to kick him out was ridiculous.

Courtney: Castle’s book signing! He seemed so lost signing away his books until Kate showed up. “You can make it out to Kate.” Me = heart melting.

Christine: How can I choose just one? The opening sequence was so dramatic and Lanie was wonderful. Watching Castle's face fall when Beckett said she didn't remember was heartbreaking. I also loved that Castle was angry with her for her three month absence and told her so instead of sulking in silence.

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What surprised you the most and was there anything they didn't cover that you wished they had?
Chandel: How doggedly Beckett was ready to continue pursuing her mother's murder. Now it's not just about her mother, it's about Kate getting shot and has become even more personal. I also think it's really interesting that she chose to continue seeing a therapist. It certainly adds a new element in that she is almost asking for help to work through everything rather than being stubborn enough to think that her emotions can be worked through on her own. We've seen how well that's gone.

Carissa: I wish I could say something surprised me, but it didn't. As Castle goes, it was pretty predictable. They rarely come up with something like they did in the finale.

Courtney: I have to agree, not much surprised me at all. If I had to pick, it would be a tie between Josh having more than one line or that Kate pretended to forget the shooting in the first place.

Christine: What surprised me was that for as many secrets as they kept, they were still more open than they normally would be, like Castle calling Kate on her emotional free fall and her admitting that her walls need to come down. But I do wish we had seen Becket break up with Josh. That would have been satisfying.

What did you think of the new Captain and the new dynamic at the 12th precinct?
Chandel: I think there are going to be a lot of secrets permeating the daily goings on of the precinct. It's going to cause a lot of tension as Castle, Beckett, Esposito and Ryan continue to walk on egg shells. It certainly adds a new element to the show. I also think it's interesting that she prefers to be referred to as "sir." How disconcerting.

Carissa: Hate the new Captain. I'm so sick of new leaders always coming into situations that are prickly and nasty. Why didn't they choose a different way to go and bring in someone that would actually fit in and be liked?

Courtney: Like everyone, my first instinct is to hate her. I mean, let’s be serious, there is no replacing Roy Montgomery. But on the other hand, I’m a little intrigued. This gives a challenge to the detectives and although she seems on the outside now, I’m pretty sure she will end up being a friend by seasons end.

Christine: I know I'm in the minority but I liked her.  She's going to shake things up and I think everyone having a common foe will only strengthen the bond between Castle, Beckett, Ryan, and Esposito.

Any guesses on whose secret comes out first (Castle's information about the conspiracy, Beckett remembers his "I love you) and what the consequences will be?
Chandel: I would prefer not to speculate given that both of them have begun lying to one another straight out of the gate. I think they are both going to come to blows about something, maybe even another secret entirely, that's going to cause another agonizing tension between them. I would just like things to get back to a new normal for a while before we find the two in heartbreaking conflict again. 

Carissa: I think Beckett will acknowledge his love, and then he'll reveal what he knows about the conspiracy and any love will be lost because he, again, held information from her.

Courtney: I’m hoping that Beckett’s secret comes first just because I want it addressed now!

Christine: I'm hoping Kate's comes out first because she's willing to move forward. Castle will be more willing to forgive her for the lie if she's willing to explore their relationship. She's going to feel completely betrayed when she finds out what he's hiding from her. I'm secretly hoping that Alexis will be so fed up with seeing her Dad heartbroken that she'll step up at that point and tell Kate what all of this has done to her Dad. That could be a stellar moment between Kate and Alexis.

Do you think Castle and Beckett should finally start a romantic relationship this season?
Chandel: No, I think Kate needs to get her bearings back first. Castle and Beckett were in a really tense place during the premiere, so I think they need some time to get back to the way they were--if they ever will. With an "I love you" hanging out there, their relationship has already jumped to another level from where it was in season three. I think they need to find one another in this new space, become completely comfortable with the new level of emotional intimacy, and then pursue the relationship from there. If that means they need till season six, I'll still be on board with that, as long as they achieve it organically.

Carissa: Yes. They remain quirky and at odds enough that their relationship would remain contradictory and fresh. That's all they need. Not to let it get all lovey dovey and romantic and mushy. Be true to the characters and it would work out beautifully.

Courtney: I’m not sure that they should get in a full fledged relationship this season, but there must be advances. I could settle for a crazy one night stand turning into some sneaking around together or I would even be ok with a real first date.

Christine: Please yes. Maybe I shouldn't compare because I feel Castle is the better show but I feel as though Bones jumped the shark after season 4. That stalling the relationship between the main characters for too long simply leads to boring stories.  My fear is that if they delay their romance much longer it will begin to erode their chemistry.  I'd love to see them start dating mid-season. Maybe even hide it from the precinct for a while as they figure things out. It could be romantic and fun and still have moments of drama and best of all, it would be something we haven't seen before.

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i want to see them get back to where they were before they start a relationship. i cant wait for them to be together but i agree that it has to happen naturally otherwise it wont work. and i honestly feel bad for castle having to keep this secret from kate, but hes doing it because he knows that is he tells her she will die, like he said, she'll put blinders on and get killed. so hes trying to figure it out himself. and im glad she remembers but cant begrudge her wanting to work through it on her own first. kudo's for seeking therapy though.

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Anyone else happy to see Cassidy Yates and Worf on the same set again? DS9

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I do think they need to progress their relationship. Everybody refers to Moonlighting, but honestly the writing tanked once they got together. Dont make them mushy, and keep their personalities and it will be just fine. I like to refer to Friends. Ross and Rachel got together, broke up, got together again, etc., and the show went 10 seasons. The only thing that bothered me?? How come she doesnt have a scar on her chest from being cracked open? The shirt she was wearing was low enough to show a scar. At least for this one episode, have some kind of evidence of her open heart surgery.

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Oops. Forgot the one about the new Captain. I hate her but I think I'm suppose to. Seeing Ryan and even Beckett get flustered was kind of fun and the actress played one of my favorite characters on 24. I miss Montgomery but Gates is bound to keep things interesting.

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They HAVE to start any kind of romantic relationship, it's season 4 already, and I'm tired about everyone in a tv show having all sorts of problems to get involved in a relationship. Come on! We all have issues! At least I hope they began secretly sleeping together.
And what about the secrets? Kate have just been shot by the same people that killed her mother, and can't deal right now with Castle's feelings, it's not a lie that she hides she remember Castle's "I love you" for now. And the same with Castle's secret. Is his life too, and it's not false that all happened because of Castle's whim to investigate Beckett's mother case. He does know now it's not a game, and he also know that Kate isn't acting normal for now; she can't deal with the information until she came through all that happend and get over her ptsd

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Christine, I'm probably also in the minority really liking the new Captain :) Penny Johnson Jerald is doing great job, I liked her very much in "24", so I was actually happy that she's joining Castle team. Of course I miss Montgomery, but 12th precinct needed this change. It was so funny to watch totally paranoid Ryan! ;D

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1. My favorite scene was the book store. Castle looked so depressed and lost and then Kate shows up. I'm also glad he told her how hurt and angry he was and the following scene on the swingset was great. So nice that they were finally honest with one another. 2. I was surprised by Kate's ptsd but glad that they did it and I hope it pops back up because that kind of thing doesn't disappear overnight. I also wish we could have seen Kate dump Josh. 3.Oh both secrets are so painful because they're keeping them apart. I like the idea of Alexis going off on Kate if she and Castle get together and then Kate tries to walk away once she finds out about Castle's secret. Kate would be shocked. I think we're going to see a stronger Alexis this season. 4. They need to get together this season. At least start dating, even secretly would be cool. These two are going to be so cute when they finally get their acts together. Who wouldn't want to see that.

Castle Season 4 Episode 1 Quotes

I'm not going to lose her again.

Castle

I know I'm not going to be able to have the kind of relationship I want until the wall comes down. I cant do that until this is put to rest.

Beckett
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