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There are several items that still have to be considered. This guy, Tim, was somehow related to Red John, and I would not be surprised that some members in the Jury were related to him too. It looks like almost anyone can be related to this folk, which makes the series a huge plot against Jane. It's hard to tell if Jane new from the very beginning that Tim was not Red John, and he just killed him for a different reason, I hope they clear this up in the future.
Jane himself knows a lot more than he tells, and this adds up to the mystery, as he does not trust anyone. Let's keep watching :-)
the couple of million dollars worth of specialty cars are non-existent...it's just a ruse to get in the game...the woman held captive in the basement wasn't a surprise...When the wife said Timothy Carter led the community to find her (not her exact words) you can tell that Timothy Carter was the one who kidnapped her.
But that was some speedy trial for Jane, Lisbon hasn't healed yet and he was already acquitted...
We all know who Red John is.
The CSI guy that appeared mid season last year.
What a Cop out. Just shows the show can't survive without the Red John storyline. I thought last season ended perfectly. But as if the producers didn't have enough faith in their show to move past Red John, they kept the storline alive. Meh.
And Jane being found not guilty. What?
I think this might be Jane's break with reality. He was convinced that the guy was Red John in that moment in the mall, but it might have just been a mistake ... in which case, Jane is losing it big time. It would understandably be difficult for him to let his search for Red John go. He's spent several years with a single motivation, so if RJ is gone, then his motivation is questionable.
I still think Jane is a character worth watching but I'm also curious about Hightower and other loose ends.
WTH....bad storyline, should be done, done done. This is as bad as the Dallas story line when Bobby came back.....????? Bad start guys.
I agree with the ones of you who think the jury's decision is questionable.
But as I have no idea of the US law, I'd like to know what happens, if a new RJ crime is comitted.
Wouldnt that prove Patrick to be wrong? (I mean in public...)
Would it be possible to appeal the judgement?
Thank you guys!
This show lost me when they changed the star from a charming gentleman on a quest to an arrogant know it all. Will never understand why if something is not broke why they try to fix it.
I'm glad the Red John story line is still going on. I was surprised that Jane was acquitted. In the real world he wouldn't have been. I see Jane differently now - as a killer without any regrets. If he runs into the real Red John, he would kill again.
Why did Carter make Jane think he was Red John? Was Carter an accomplice of Red John - Or was he just another nut case getting a thrill out of it all?
I'm with those of you who think the "Red John" storyline needs to end. Enough already! I cheered out loud at last season's finale because I thought, "finally, a satisfying ending to a storyline!" -- something that's hard to come by on television -- and Bradley Whitford was the perfect choice to play Red John! Now, we're back to square one. Major misfire, in my opinion. Also, there needed to be a better reason why Jane was acquitted. No jury would have found him not guilty. Jane needs to find another reason to be with the CBI and get past Red John.
I agree that this episode which started off quite smashingly low kee\y, turned up too many bad scenarios. One, being acquitted of murder one, when he obviously did kill a man, albeit in self defense and justified as he puts it, the D.A. has the upper hand and yet the jury (I thinks R.J. had a controlling interest in keeping Jane out of jail and might have tampered with the jury) and the whole Carter thing was so offside, and Jane did catch on early since he attached his locker key to Carter's set in the box of personal effects.
Lisbon played it well, not scoldingly since she knows that her team is in jeopardy and she needs Jane to help clear them.
Mr Heller gave us a completely great ending to last season which kept us wondering all summer and then drops the ball with this episode. Keeping Red john alive is O.K., it has something to do with that cult group and McDowell is coming back along with Kristina I'm sure. Jane is a murderer, who mocks the law and will put his friends as we
If Jane put up a million dollars cash for bail, then was found not guilty and released from prison, wouldnt he get that million dollars back?
I think the producers like to leave it a mystery as to whether or not he does have money, though different members of the team have made comments in various episodes how material possessions arent important to Jane
So whether he had money prior to the poker game or was bluffing shouldnt Jane be sitting on a million bucks in the next episode? Did no one else catch this?
Addendum: There was some threat to his life, since Whitford did have a gun, but there was no immediate threat, as in, "I'm going to shoot you!"
Yes, there were problems. I believe a sympathetic jury would have let him off with manslaughter -- but never declare him "not guilty." There was no immediate threat to his life, and therefore no conceivable justification for killing the guy. Furthermore, since Jane brought a gun to the meeting, the murder was obviously pre-meditated, which really takes away from the whole "spur-of-the-moment" idea.
Furthermore, regardless of the successful conclusion to the case, and the saving of a young girl's life, the suspended team will still have to undergo review for impersonating on-duty officers.
And while I'm not schooled in prison society, I do suspect it might take more than a day or two to find a high-stakes poker game. Furthermore, winning one under such circumstances could well get you killed.
As for Bradley Whitford not being Red John -- that actually comes as a relief. It's not that I'm anxious to see the Red John arc carried on further, but Red John's MO is completely diffe
Good episode, but ultimately a copout. The whole "Jane finally meets Red John" thing and the "OMG Jane killed Red John!" thing turns out to be nothing more than a cynical ratings gimmick. No prison time for Jane, no criminal record, and we're no closer to knowing the truth about Red John. The only thing that has changed is Patrick Jane is now a darker character than before and viewers will never trust the shows producers again.
OMG! everytime when he's in jail he always wants a blueberry muffin thats funny i love that! but i had a feeling the guy he killed wasntRed John it was to easy, and i loved when he got 1 million dollars now that was so freaken awesome i love when Jane has a plan its to epic.. but i love the Red John case it needs to go on for a while..
"and grace with really great hair" ha! i thought the exact same thing!
loved it, can't wait for the next one.
i hate that red john is alive, but i can live through this.
i agree with everything you said C. Orlando.
The Red John story should stay going as long as it is not in every episode. You cant just get rid of the person that killed his wife and child. One of the main premises of the show is Red John, without it the show would not be the same.
I agree, the Red John arch needs to end ASAP. Jane needs to grow past it. They need to tie or RJ, and have another serial killer storyline.
And like one of the other posters mentioned....what happened to Hightower, and the creepy guy running the investigation. I'm getting bored with the show, and am about to move on.
What happened to Lisbon? I only hope her being not judgemental was due to the painkillers. I am a big fan of the character but she really was a little odd.
What I loved was that she was even when she did break the law before in helping Jane you still got some sense that she had her own beliefs (in the law). All these conversation they had in previous episodes seemed for nothing. They already indicated near the end of Season 3 that she kind of changed but I thought she's still stay true to her character.
But she was almost indifferent. Very sad. I hope she gets back to her old self.
And also the Season 3 great finale with the emotional speech of Jane & Bradley Whitefords character was kinda for nothing now...
@Sue Ann - I thought he was lying about the classic car collection (sort of a joke because he has the Citroen, so maybe he does have a classic "car", singular, collection). But, the DA says: "He has no ties to the community. He owns no property here. He must be considered a very serious flight risk." That is, Lisbon's teams territory is the whole state of California, so that they could be anywhere in the state ... but really, I can't see them getting rid of the house with the mattress on the floor under the smiley face because it's so dramatic ... and, so, I think how the DA says what he says was just a set up for the poker game so he could do the thing with the tell to con the big time criminal and for the very wonderful scene where the thug gives Lisbon tha bag of money.
We'll find out in future episodes!
I want to know how Jane knew the man he killed wasn't
Red John? He told Jane how his wife and daughter smelled. So, Red John had told him, and therefore, he could pass the info on to Jane? But, again how did Jane know?
I love the show. The plot had holes, but still better than most tv shows. Way better!!
@Fossie - Thanks, because I wouldn't have been able to explain it so well! I have wondered, though, because they've never said, just how wealthy he is supposed to be -- set for life, yes, but the writers keep it vague.
Timothy Carter's wife may have been weird, but there is definitely a connection to Red John with Carter and wife and the events in the mall. Carter didn't have a following to come after him and take his gun and switch phones, Red John does, though. And, Carter was on the phone to Red John's man (the fiance). That is, a Red John disciple like Carter's wife would absolutely have invited Jane in (I think)!
Jane is Lisbon's partner the way Bosco was (and she covered up a crime for Bosco that she threatened to turn him in on to get Jane out of jail for bugging Bosco's office). She also went down and punched a guy to get him released from jail so he wouldn't roll on Jane. I always go to the end of the episode where Jane disrupts the court and gets put on trial for
The DA stated that Jane owns no property, and is a flight risk, when he requested bail be set at one million dollars. Unless they are incompetent, one would suppose that they checked into the lack of valuable property, rather than taking Jane's word for it, assuming that is what he said. The home in Malibu may have been sold. He is currently not earning enough money to support it.
He has never driven any vintage car, other than that Citroen. In the episode where he parked the ugly expensive yellow car where it would fall over the cliff, it appeared that he did not have a bank account which would justify letting him test drive any of those cars. The home in Malibu may have eaten his savings.
He can not be re-tried for the death of the man he killed. He has been tried once, jeopardy attached, and therefore, he is free forever on that count. It is called double jeopardy,and it is illegal. Had he been convicted, he could appeal. Since he was found not guilty, the DA has no r
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