Breaking Bad > Breaking Bad Season 4 Finale Review: Who Won? > Comments Page 2
everyone here is discussing about final few episodes but what about the excruciating mid episodes..? I think that very well answers why less no. of viewers. If any one has observed why didn't gus look at the bombing apparatus fixed to the wheel chair while it is clearly visible...? that is the one glitch from my side but the rest just blew me away....!!
People keep saying that Walt has no humanity left, but how does Walt not have humanity left? Everything he did was for survival and he was only forced into that situation because Gus threatened to kill him and his family. He obviously cares about Jesse. It was either kill or be killed. You can tell that he was pretty much scared for his life the past few episodes and he had to kill Gus to survive.
Bring on season 5, I cannot ever remember a show so compelling. My hat i dip to the creator Vince and to the actors you have certainly raised the bar to a new level as far as television goes. It will be a sad moment when it all ends but at the same time great things all finish at the right time.
this was really great show, epecially the last episodes, Walt was amazing yes he did poison tat kid but he only did tat to get jessi on his side and to blame it on gus...n yah the plant was there from the beggining, he got the idea of the plant when he was sitting near the pool and spinning the gun and once the gun was pointed at the plant tat when he came up with it..he had to get jessi on his side, even though i felt sad tat he did tat to the kid but hey hes walt n he knew the kid wont die of it
Well... Actually I´ve already watched the last episode of the 4th season, and I don´t understand how Walter White could be so bad at the end of all this story... I mean at the last scene of the chapter when the camera is focusing on a plant located in the terrace of the White´s place if you pay so much attention you will be able to read that the plant´s name is... Lilly of the Valley, as everybody knows the plant who made Bronko got sick.... FUCK OFF MR.WHITE!!
I just re-watched the scene with Jesse and Walt on the roof. When the camera angle changes to face out through the vent, there's a conspicuous breathing sound as Jesse walks away. I've re-watched it over five times and there's no mistaking it. I'm not saying that means there's someone there necessarily, maybe it's some sort of creative device - alluding to Gus' last breath?
Okay yeah, that makes no sense. So why would there be some obvious raspy-type breathing sound exactly coinciding with the change in camera angle? In a show such as this, every single scene and pan of the camera is calculated. The writers and creaters have placed hidden "easter eggs" throughout the duration of the show, clues that many viewers have missed.
Watching this episode, as soon as Hector was finished at the DEA office and being wheeled into the elevator, I knew Walt was behind it and did it because a) Hector's being watched by Gus' team, b) it would give Gus an immediate reason to visit, and c) Walt d
you said to me:
Wrong-it was NOT stupid or was it disapointing-it was totally brilliant-my heart leaped-GUS lives until 2 seconds later-SNAP. If he crawled out it would not have had
the same impact. Gus always precise-even in death.
The plots are brilliant.
Please don`t watch next season if you thought the plot were flimsy-they were the best TV I have seen.
Go back to True Blood or Mad Men."
First off, when did I say anything about True Blood or Mad Men? I don't watch either.
I DID say that the scene was shocking, despite it's cheesiness, and it could've been done better.... shock value, WITH believability. The whole 'poisoning Brock thing' is flimsy IMO. There was ALOT of reaching going on there in the writer's room... surely, you can see them manipulating us into buying this concoction... can't you? I stand by my call and my disapointment..... SNAP!
After thinking for a little, I realize the poison connection: Saul Goodman gave Brock the poison. He always delivers the money to his Brock's mom as we saw a couple episodes back. He could have swung by when the mom was away to drop off the money or even done it in front of her and slipped something into his food.
Mike is still out there, and he was Gus's #1 guy. He knew all of Walt & Jesses secrets, knows gus's contacts and network: He'll hold Walt and Jesse hostage with his knowledge. He'll wait, then force them into service for him... and since Walt has proven to be capable of taking out his enemies, Mike will have an iron clad plan in place to keep them in line. Walt will be cornered and will have to turn to Hank for help... if Hank hasn't already figured out Walts secret by then...
my bad, the song is norah jones and danger mouse........same lyrics though.
I do agree the show highlights what hides beneath the surface for most people. What we are truly capable of when we are pushed to our limit. Walt and Jesse for that matter are governed by their emotions.....Walt less as each season progresses, their decisions are based on them. Gus on the other hand was cold, calculating and completely ruthless but on the other hand I don't think Gus harmed Brock. I almost felt slightly sad when Gus went, he was vicious yes, but he was honest and kept his word. Maybe it's just me LOL but he ran everything as a business with no emotion involved and I think that is what it takes to run something as large adn complex as his operation or even a wall street firm. I don't see Walt running the operation well, too much emotion.
Walt definitely has changed for the worse but if you watch the last 15 mins or so of the episode I think it's clear he poisoned the child. I don't think it intended to kill him and you can see genuine relief when jesse tells him he will make it (Walt doesn't fake well). Then probably the most revealing moment when he phones Skylar basically admitting what he had done and basically not making any excuses with the single phrase "I won". Also when he says that one little phrase look at his face.....at first he looks demonic much like Gus, then when he tells her he won, he almost looks defeated and almost crying. Kind of like when you're on a mission to accomplish something and then when it's all done you almost feel unsatisfied.......the journey was all the fun/drive, and he sees what he is becoming or has become. Either way these small details always mean something as we have seen in this show. The song playing when he talks to Skylar I think is Lissie, and the words I remembered h
AceKing, your criterion for "good" is wrong. This is why you are confused. Good is NOT How Many People Watch It. It's complexity and ingenuity and creativity. (subjective, it's true)
Rating a show by it's popularity doesn't mean it's good. Witness Vampire Stupidities and Two and A Half Braincells.
By your criterion The Sopranos, Deadwood, Rome, Boardwalk Empire, Sons of Anarchy, Mad Men and many others are poor compared to NCIS.
Let's look at some other artsts who, by the Popularity Quotient, suck the Big Luigi.
Johann Sebastian Bach
Henry David Thoreau
Edgar Allan Poe
Paul Gauguin (among many others)
All the above, failures in their lifetime. All shitty artists compared to the makers of 24. Ridiculous, no?
See, basis of your conclusion is wrong. It's a follower's equation. I assume you are an iconoclastic, stalwart pioneer like the rest of us. So, no. The numbers aren't interesting. They're meaningless.
What I like about about BB is that I haven't had to like Walt in this series to still really enjoy it. Its good that the makers can have the main character be an asshole for most of an entire series. I wasn't so much rooting for Walt, but rather rooting for Walt to find his moral compass again - hinted at in some scenes like when Walt's soon finds him drunk in bed, and hears him say 'Sorry Jessie". As a previous commenter noted: " Why are we celebrating Walt becoming a sociopath?"
It would be good if Jessie did alright by the end of Series 5... I know many of the screw-ups were his fault, but he's had more than his fair share of beatings and heartache. It seems inevitable that Series5 will concern Walts return (or not) to normality, Hank, and Mike.
Though no-where near as good, the ending of The Shield might provide clues... without spoiling it, the entire show was leading up to how the leading character would receive his come-uppance or redemption.
Looking forward : D
You can't compare 24 to Breaking Bad; they are different genres. It would be like comparing apples to oranges. However, the following statistics are interesting:
24 Season 1 average viewers (in millions) 8.60
BB 1 1.20
These were the highest figures that I could find for BB.
Like I said before, BB is a great show, probably the best in its genre. Let's get off this best show ever kick. The show had four years to attract a larger audience. Why didn't it?
Thank you-I am sick of reading reviews from `Reviewers` going on about how Walt is now as bad as Gus or the Cartel or how he murdered in cold blood etc.
Wrong-it was NOT stupid or was it disapointing-it was totally brilliant-my heart leaped-GUS lives until 2 seconds later-SNAP. If he crawled out it would not have had the same impact. Gus always precise-even in death.
The plots are brilliant.
Please don`t watch next season if you thought the plot were flimsy-they were the best TV I have seen.
Go back to True Blood or Mad Men.
It's interesting how everyone thinks they tied it all up with the plant in the back yard... they left it completely open to go anyway they wanted with season 5.
As someone else already stated, Gus's goons were in Walt's back yard. Dammit... I'm going to have to go back and watch the last like three episodes, but I don't have time until Thursday...
When Walt leaves the house or enters the house over the fence is the plant there? Remember, Gus's goons came back to Walt's house while he was in there. They could've easily placed the plant after Walt came and got the money...
But it'd be pretty unlikely that Walt didn't set it all up... since it wasn't Risen then all Walt would've had to do was take the cig from Jesse, poison the kid with berries somehow, then when Jesse figures it was Walt that poisoned the kid and comes to kill him Walt talks him down and turns him against Gus... pretty big gamble for Walt. Well, not really, since it was in the script, but you know what I mean.
Its so impossible to predict what is going to happen next and I appreciate that everyone is predicting something a little different for season 5.
I think season 5 will be about Walt trying to return to normal and put all this behind him and he will NOT be able to because of Jesse. Walt has used Jesse as a pawn but I still think that Walt truly cares for him. I think at some point, Walt will be faced with a difficult choice that may involve Jesse's death. I wonder what he would choose....
and anyone thinking 24 is anywhere as good as this show is crazy. i bet they think terra nova is better than lost too. smh.
i'm not as sharp as some viewers, at the end when the plant is shown, i thought it was gus who had poisoned the child.. and i agree that the "fix my tie" thing was over the top!
i dont care for skyler, will she get any comeuppance? cannot wait for the next season..
i'm sure we havent seen the last of gus. all season they have been hinting that gus has this past that makes him some what special. so his assassination isn't going to just go over looked. and i;m sure we will be seeing a few flash backs next season into who he was in chile which will explain why walt and jesse are still in grave danger. amazing season. but hasn't every season been. and can't wait to see mike next season. glad they left him out of the last 2 episodes.
I don't know why everyone is saying Walt has no humanity left. He's changed a lot and has made some ruthless decisions, but he's been pushed into them. Sure, some of them aren't nice, but he's still got a conscience and still cares about Jesse, his family, etc. That's what makes him so interesting. Gus was far less interesting because he really did care about absolutely no one but himself.
I think you hit the nail on the head with your prediction reguarding Gus' past coming back into play, I've been thinking exactly the same thing.
Awesome show. I am thinking someone from Chile is going to show up to find out what happened to Gus. Remember in the flashback when Gus first went to Don Eladio to sell him his Meth and Hector shot his cook. Don Eladio told Gus that the only reason he didn't kill him was because he "knew who he was".
Maybe Walt will hire Mike for protection.
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