Also Bubba or what ever his name is compare her hugging rachel to him tackling some other player from another team and another school. How is that the same thing... he most likely doesn't know the person tackling personally.
whateva
October 5th, 2011 10:56 AM
@bellefille
neither one actually looks the part of maria (if i was going by looks then I would have picked Quinn with a wig or Santana then) but personality wise Rachel fits Maria more. Besides someone pointed out I do not believe Mercedes has the innocence needed for Tonight.
I don't even understand this as everyone knows the best roles in the entire show is the supporting characters particularly Anita (as Moreno won for supporting actress at the oscars and Karen Olivo won for best featured at the tony's for the revival). The fact that Mercedes seem to only want it after her boyfriend said something.
I also find it strange she listening to someone who barely knows Rachel and used an musical analogy the wrong way. I mean am I the only one who noticed Beyonce was to referred to as Beyonce in DreamGirls but no mention of Jennifer Hudson who was the star of the movie actually. The only problem with Mercedes being compare is Effie was not lazy, she did practice and got shafted in favo
Dawn
October 5th, 2011 10:44 AM
Woe betide anyone who dares to give Glee a bad review! Its insane. Even your favourite shows have weak weeks, and despite how much the cast tweeted about it being an amazing episode, I didnt love it. I liked it, but it crammed too much in.
I agree with the reviewer that Rachel admitting Mercedes was better made the split casting decision seem pointless; it should have Mercedes' part, or Rachel shouldnt have admitted she wasnt as good. I get Mercedes needed a reason to leave, but it was so contrived.
Kurt had me yawning all episode; we get it, he's gay, is that his only issue? I just dont care anymore.
LOVED Brittany's flash mob :) Girl can sing and boy can she DANCE!
bellefille
October 5th, 2011 10:38 AM
Okay for everyone that wants Rachel to win: You only want that because you think she looks the part, but Mercedes was better...she deserves it.
Ashley
October 5th, 2011 10:08 AM
I like glee and I will keep watching it. But I felt that this episode did'nt give the storylines the credit they deserved. Mike Chang's scenes were great. They did a good job with him. But is anyone else tired of Rachel not really growing up, she's supposed to be a senior now, plus her always being the bad guy. Everytime she starts to get close to someone they make her do something to hurt that friendship. I agree with the reviewer they don't give enough time to Shue and Emma. She has a problem and they gave their relationship all of three seconds last nite. I just wish they would have put some of the storylines in another episode.
I'm glad that other people found this episode to be a hot mess for the most part. Loved the parts with Mike, but what is up with them making all the female leads unlikeable?
Rachel - back to being self-centered, unable to be friends with anyone, and incapable of thinking of anyone besides herself
Mercedes - the diva attitude was annoying (yelling at Mr. Schue for calling her out for not giving a crap about dancing?) and the fact that she's trying to take down the New Directions is really irksome. Also, she got the freaking lead; double casting often happens in high school productions for the leads. Deal with yourself.
Quinn - I know she wasn't in this episode, but I'm already hating the "I'm going to sabotage my baby's adoptive mom so I can be the mom...even though I obviously have no qualifications to be a 17 year old mother" storylines. Totally reprehensable.
Emma - No, she's not being a b**** like the rest of them, but they're taking her issues a bit too far and heav
Lulu
October 5th, 2011 9:43 AM
I totally agree with this review. This show is a hot mess.
Matt Richenthal Rank: Staff Member
October 5th, 2011 8:15 AM
@stella: I didn't like this episode and I very much stand by that opinion, but not sure where you'd get the idea that I always hate on Glee. Did you read my reviews of the first two episodes of this season? Please do.
gleek
October 5th, 2011 7:38 AM
Contrary to this review, I really enjoyed this episode of glee. I love how glee is really focusing on character development this season; it's so nice to see the characters we've loved from the start evolve.
stella
October 5th, 2011 7:29 AM
Totally agree with Adam on this one: "What on earth reviewer!!? You must be way too tired or had a bad day because this ep. rocked!"
I often find that the review says the episode was bad and actually it was awesome. Guess you can't read the reviews here any more...
charles
October 5th, 2011 7:15 AM
Thought the EP was entertaining and heartfelt. Seems like the reviewer, all though a great writer- is a little bit of a hater. But I guess that's what they are paid to do. "Take me (the show) for what I am. For what I was meant to be and if you don't give a damn..." I know mad corny , but this show, to at least this audience memberis over half full then half empty.
maddie
October 5th, 2011 5:50 AM
this is such bull. mercedes is not maria! you can't just belt out a song and then be like, yeah, play a character in which you don't have the vocal range to hit the high notes (tonight), you're not innocent or naive enough to act it. why is it that it's ok to see that kurt is CLEARLY not tony, but not ok to point out that mercedes is obviously not a maria. cast her as anita; she's got a strong voice and a fun personality. plus, sif mercedes would learn all the dances for west side story- she was so dismissive of booty camp. and this whol beyonce thing? i'm sorry, but nobody at my school was like, excuse me i deserve to have this part even though i have no experience in acting or any experience in anything! both rachel and mercedes could be much more humble. plus, when auditions come down to two people, they sing a song FROM THE MUSICAL. she wants to sing a dreamgirls song? put on dreamgirls. of course she sounds amazing as effie white- but effie is not maria. the unbelievability of thi
Adam
October 5th, 2011 5:44 AM
What on earth reviewer!!? You must be way too tired or had a bad day because this ep. rocked! It's easily in the top five of the series. Great songs, great lines, great stories and not a PSA. You need to understand and truly consider the nature of a show like Glee before you can start to make out of it reviews! Last review I will read of your's sadly as I believe we're seeing two different shows. Enjoy Negative Ville though!
Schwartz
October 5th, 2011 5:20 AM
I really liked this Glee episode. I felt that it was not a convoluted mess like everyone else says because I believe it was well-handled. The drama was there, the comedy was there, and the music was totally there (it didn't felt awkward or misplaced at all). And if people are gonna whine about what's the reason about this, why is she doing this, or what the hell was she thinking, let's just enjoy it people, if we just concentrate on what were watching a little bit more and let it's message be relayed to not only our eyes but our mind and soul, I bet we wouldn't find this episode convoluted, stupid,boring, or perplexing.
Paulien
October 5th, 2011 5:08 AM
Yes! Mercedes IS pregnant! I saw that in a clip from next week's episode. Don't care for it much though. The biggest 'wtf-moment' for me were the last 15 seconds! Now it's really gonna be a diva-off. Two choirs competing eachother with on the one hand Rachel and on the other hand Mercedes---helll yeah!
I think the most time was spent on Mike and his story was pretty good, albeit slightly predictable. I'm glad his mum is supporting his decisions because we've seen from many other stories and TV series how oppressive a dual parent attach can be.
While I openly acknowledge how good it is that Mercedes is actually thinking of herself as a star (at the encouragement of her in-need-of-a-shave football playing boyfriend), it felt a little contrived. Even though her singing is no short of fantastic, no one ever said she could act. Maybe Rachel didn't go through a personal growth of epidemic proportions - it seems as if she's actually receded
What are you guys talking about?! This is one of the strongest episode in the history of Glee. It's character character characters. Mike Change was AMAZING in this episode. I couldn't stop tearing up on the scene between him and his mother.
Mercedes was tremendous.
Although, I'm not sure about Emma's parent's development. I do feel that part was a bit forced and too much info in 1 hour.
farsia2010 Rank: Recurring Character
October 5th, 2011 4:20 AM
it was so boring, the music numbers were fantastic except for mike's "Cool". it is not a bad way to start but that it was not for him, he doesn't have enough power behind his voice and words. and i don't mean his voice is bad it's just the feelings are somehow missing, you should all try listening West Side story' "cool" on youtube and then compare.
the whole divas off, so last year, and the year before that. first Rachel quit glee in the first season because Tina got the lead in "tonight" from west side story, then in the second season we had the "night of neglect" ep, and now this, i sooooo thought they have progressed from this already.
I seriously hope that Mercedes isn't pregnant, i think she is just lazy and creates excuses, nobody works as hard as Rachel does in that club, not even Kurt, and yes she is difficult but she earns everything she gets.
she should be Maria.
another thing is i didn't understand why mike sang that he is only breaking into that business and that it w
Maggie
October 5th, 2011 3:37 AM
OH MY GOD. I'm so glad I'm not the only one that picked up on the "Mercedes is probably pregnant" story-line. Seriously, they even did Dreamgirls. Everyone knows Effie is pregnant in that song. I'm not a fan, but teen pregnancy is the new hip thing to do... At least the new boyfriend will get to stay around a little longer this way.
Btw, WTFFFF??? They did the BAD half of I'm Not Going?? I literally screamed at the TV for that one.
BORING!
October 5th, 2011 2:09 AM
This episode was so boring!! I couldn't put my finger on what exactly was off...I think its because while I was watching it I couldn't help but feeling...HAVEN'T WE DONE THIS BEFORE??
I dunno if anyone else felt that way but I dunno after the episode I was just like that's it? After people were saying oh its going to be a 'game changer' seemed more like a snooze-fest to me
SoOverIt
October 5th, 2011 1:39 AM
Kurt fans feel like they were kicked in the gut. Why must Kurt always end up in a pile of dog doo? It is tiring. Having a boyfriend is NOT a success story!
Tash
October 5th, 2011 1:06 AM
Mercedes was better.. But Her attitude sucks lately. I hate how this show exaggerates sterotypes.
chaela
October 5th, 2011 12:54 AM
I thought in the preview it showed someone holding a pregnancy test. Getting rid of that storyline?
micha
October 5th, 2011 12:51 AM
Congrats writers and Ryan Murphy we all now know that you want women to be in charge of America.
anna
October 5th, 2011 12:47 AM
i liked a lot this episode, especially when will got on his knees with emma.. another thing i liked was when kurt gave blaine the flowers, because in the past episodes it always seems like blaine is the one who kind of gives, and we all know how much kurt wanted the part of tony so i think i was a really nice gesture of him to give the flowers to blaine, great acting from chris colfer, when he hugged blaine i could literally feel his emotions.
October 5th, 2011 11:02 AM
Also Bubba or what ever his name is compare her hugging rachel to him tackling some other player from another team and another school. How is that the same thing... he most likely doesn't know the person tackling personally.
October 5th, 2011 10:56 AM
@bellefille
neither one actually looks the part of maria (if i was going by looks then I would have picked Quinn with a wig or Santana then) but personality wise Rachel fits Maria more. Besides someone pointed out I do not believe Mercedes has the innocence needed for Tonight.
I don't even understand this as everyone knows the best roles in the entire show is the supporting characters particularly Anita (as Moreno won for supporting actress at the oscars and Karen Olivo won for best featured at the tony's for the revival). The fact that Mercedes seem to only want it after her boyfriend said something.
I also find it strange she listening to someone who barely knows Rachel and used an musical analogy the wrong way. I mean am I the only one who noticed Beyonce was to referred to as Beyonce in DreamGirls but no mention of Jennifer Hudson who was the star of the movie actually. The only problem with Mercedes being compare is Effie was not lazy, she did practice and got shafted in favo
October 5th, 2011 10:44 AM
Woe betide anyone who dares to give Glee a bad review! Its insane. Even your favourite shows have weak weeks, and despite how much the cast tweeted about it being an amazing episode, I didnt love it. I liked it, but it crammed too much in.
I agree with the reviewer that Rachel admitting Mercedes was better made the split casting decision seem pointless; it should have Mercedes' part, or Rachel shouldnt have admitted she wasnt as good. I get Mercedes needed a reason to leave, but it was so contrived.
Kurt had me yawning all episode; we get it, he's gay, is that his only issue? I just dont care anymore.
LOVED Brittany's flash mob :) Girl can sing and boy can she DANCE!
October 5th, 2011 10:38 AM
Okay for everyone that wants Rachel to win: You only want that because you think she looks the part, but Mercedes was better...she deserves it.
October 5th, 2011 10:08 AM
I like glee and I will keep watching it. But I felt that this episode did'nt give the storylines the credit they deserved. Mike Chang's scenes were great. They did a good job with him. But is anyone else tired of Rachel not really growing up, she's supposed to be a senior now, plus her always being the bad guy. Everytime she starts to get close to someone they make her do something to hurt that friendship. I agree with the reviewer they don't give enough time to Shue and Emma. She has a problem and they gave their relationship all of three seconds last nite. I just wish they would have put some of the storylines in another episode.
Rank: Extra
October 5th, 2011 10:07 AM
I'm glad that other people found this episode to be a hot mess for the most part. Loved the parts with Mike, but what is up with them making all the female leads unlikeable?
Rachel - back to being self-centered, unable to be friends with anyone, and incapable of thinking of anyone besides herself
Mercedes - the diva attitude was annoying (yelling at Mr. Schue for calling her out for not giving a crap about dancing?) and the fact that she's trying to take down the New Directions is really irksome. Also, she got the freaking lead; double casting often happens in high school productions for the leads. Deal with yourself.
Quinn - I know she wasn't in this episode, but I'm already hating the "I'm going to sabotage my baby's adoptive mom so I can be the mom...even though I obviously have no qualifications to be a 17 year old mother" storylines. Totally reprehensable.
Emma - No, she's not being a b**** like the rest of them, but they're taking her issues a bit too far and heav
October 5th, 2011 9:43 AM
I totally agree with this review. This show is a hot mess.
Rank: Staff Member
October 5th, 2011 8:15 AM
@stella: I didn't like this episode and I very much stand by that opinion, but not sure where you'd get the idea that I always hate on Glee. Did you read my reviews of the first two episodes of this season? Please do.
October 5th, 2011 7:38 AM
Contrary to this review, I really enjoyed this episode of glee. I love how glee is really focusing on character development this season; it's so nice to see the characters we've loved from the start evolve.
October 5th, 2011 7:29 AM
Totally agree with Adam on this one: "What on earth reviewer!!? You must be way too tired or had a bad day because this ep. rocked!"
I often find that the review says the episode was bad and actually it was awesome. Guess you can't read the reviews here any more...
October 5th, 2011 7:15 AM
Thought the EP was entertaining and heartfelt. Seems like the reviewer, all though a great writer- is a little bit of a hater. But I guess that's what they are paid to do. "Take me (the show) for what I am. For what I was meant to be and if you don't give a damn..." I know mad corny , but this show, to at least this audience memberis over half full then half empty.
October 5th, 2011 5:50 AM
this is such bull. mercedes is not maria! you can't just belt out a song and then be like, yeah, play a character in which you don't have the vocal range to hit the high notes (tonight), you're not innocent or naive enough to act it. why is it that it's ok to see that kurt is CLEARLY not tony, but not ok to point out that mercedes is obviously not a maria. cast her as anita; she's got a strong voice and a fun personality. plus, sif mercedes would learn all the dances for west side story- she was so dismissive of booty camp. and this whol beyonce thing? i'm sorry, but nobody at my school was like, excuse me i deserve to have this part even though i have no experience in acting or any experience in anything! both rachel and mercedes could be much more humble. plus, when auditions come down to two people, they sing a song FROM THE MUSICAL. she wants to sing a dreamgirls song? put on dreamgirls. of course she sounds amazing as effie white- but effie is not maria. the unbelievability of thi
October 5th, 2011 5:44 AM
What on earth reviewer!!? You must be way too tired or had a bad day because this ep. rocked! It's easily in the top five of the series. Great songs, great lines, great stories and not a PSA. You need to understand and truly consider the nature of a show like Glee before you can start to make out of it reviews! Last review I will read of your's sadly as I believe we're seeing two different shows. Enjoy Negative Ville though!
October 5th, 2011 5:20 AM
I really liked this Glee episode. I felt that it was not a convoluted mess like everyone else says because I believe it was well-handled. The drama was there, the comedy was there, and the music was totally there (it didn't felt awkward or misplaced at all). And if people are gonna whine about what's the reason about this, why is she doing this, or what the hell was she thinking, let's just enjoy it people, if we just concentrate on what were watching a little bit more and let it's message be relayed to not only our eyes but our mind and soul, I bet we wouldn't find this episode convoluted, stupid,boring, or perplexing.
October 5th, 2011 5:08 AM
Yes! Mercedes IS pregnant! I saw that in a clip from next week's episode. Don't care for it much though. The biggest 'wtf-moment' for me were the last 15 seconds! Now it's really gonna be a diva-off. Two choirs competing eachother with on the one hand Rachel and on the other hand Mercedes---helll yeah!
Rank: Extra
October 5th, 2011 5:06 AM
I think the most time was spent on Mike and his story was pretty good, albeit slightly predictable. I'm glad his mum is supporting his decisions because we've seen from many other stories and TV series how oppressive a dual parent attach can be.
While I openly acknowledge how good it is that Mercedes is actually thinking of herself as a star (at the encouragement of her in-need-of-a-shave football playing boyfriend), it felt a little contrived. Even though her singing is no short of fantastic, no one ever said she could act. Maybe Rachel didn't go through a personal growth of epidemic proportions - it seems as if she's actually receded
Rank: New User
October 5th, 2011 4:45 AM
What are you guys talking about?! This is one of the strongest episode in the history of Glee. It's character character characters. Mike Change was AMAZING in this episode. I couldn't stop tearing up on the scene between him and his mother.
Mercedes was tremendous.
Although, I'm not sure about Emma's parent's development. I do feel that part was a bit forced and too much info in 1 hour.
Rank: Recurring Character
October 5th, 2011 4:20 AM
it was so boring, the music numbers were fantastic except for mike's "Cool". it is not a bad way to start but that it was not for him, he doesn't have enough power behind his voice and words. and i don't mean his voice is bad it's just the feelings are somehow missing, you should all try listening West Side story' "cool" on youtube and then compare.
the whole divas off, so last year, and the year before that. first Rachel quit glee in the first season because Tina got the lead in "tonight" from west side story, then in the second season we had the "night of neglect" ep, and now this, i sooooo thought they have progressed from this already.
I seriously hope that Mercedes isn't pregnant, i think she is just lazy and creates excuses, nobody works as hard as Rachel does in that club, not even Kurt, and yes she is difficult but she earns everything she gets.
she should be Maria.
another thing is i didn't understand why mike sang that he is only breaking into that business and that it w
October 5th, 2011 3:37 AM
OH MY GOD. I'm so glad I'm not the only one that picked up on the "Mercedes is probably pregnant" story-line. Seriously, they even did Dreamgirls. Everyone knows Effie is pregnant in that song. I'm not a fan, but teen pregnancy is the new hip thing to do... At least the new boyfriend will get to stay around a little longer this way.
Btw, WTFFFF??? They did the BAD half of I'm Not Going?? I literally screamed at the TV for that one.
October 5th, 2011 2:09 AM
This episode was so boring!! I couldn't put my finger on what exactly was off...I think its because while I was watching it I couldn't help but feeling...HAVEN'T WE DONE THIS BEFORE??
I dunno if anyone else felt that way but I dunno after the episode I was just like that's it? After people were saying oh its going to be a 'game changer' seemed more like a snooze-fest to me
October 5th, 2011 1:39 AM
Kurt fans feel like they were kicked in the gut. Why must Kurt always end up in a pile of dog doo? It is tiring. Having a boyfriend is NOT a success story!
October 5th, 2011 1:06 AM
Mercedes was better.. But Her attitude sucks lately. I hate how this show exaggerates sterotypes.
October 5th, 2011 12:54 AM
I thought in the preview it showed someone holding a pregnancy test. Getting rid of that storyline?
October 5th, 2011 12:51 AM
Congrats writers and Ryan Murphy we all now know that you want women to be in charge of America.
October 5th, 2011 12:47 AM
i liked a lot this episode, especially when will got on his knees with emma.. another thing i liked was when kurt gave blaine the flowers, because in the past episodes it always seems like blaine is the one who kind of gives, and we all know how much kurt wanted the part of tony so i think i was a really nice gesture of him to give the flowers to blaine, great acting from chris colfer, when he hugged blaine i could literally feel his emotions.