Outing someone is seriously never okay. I'd say Finn knowing the reason why Santana is being a bitch makes his outing of her so much worse. "Well I'll just rip out your deepest feelings of insecurity and confusion for everyone to see, okay?" and Yeah. I'm pretty sure he didn't intend for it to blow up like it did and Santana was on a mean streak, It's still seriously uncool.
And there's quite a leap from having rumors stir up from an amateur webshow and having it showing up on the news.
A. Henry
November 16th, 2011 3:28 AM
@kay
Completely agree! Glee is seriously inconsistent. The writers need to stop patting themselves on the back for a great season one and get back to work.
Leigh Raines Rank: Staff Member
November 16th, 2011 3:21 AM
I think this was the first episode all season where I actually like all of the musical numbers. You and I is my favorite Gaga song and Idina did it perfectly. That said, Adele was just the best, hands down. Spectacular job by Naya and Amber.
Piecar Rank: Guest Star
November 16th, 2011 2:37 AM
The Hall and Oates bit was hardly even a mashup. There were like four lines from the second song in it. I was gonna call complete Bull until Quinn spit out those few words from the song. The Adele mash up was....spectacular doesn't capture it. The choreography was great. The singing was stellar. The women looked fantastic and it was so heartwrenching, the two songs together. They killed it.
I also think that Finn was coming from a good place when he outed Santana there. But he was still pulling out his big gun after the bile she spewed at him. That was harsh.
Who the hell would vote for Kurt? His platform, "no dodgeball, no fatty foods" is lame...And the man seems, every time he speaks, like he's just barely keeping himself from crying....Blecch. Nobody helped ANY of them with their speeches? I see the hockey dudes are taking over for the football team now. I think that hockey hair is pretty much over...and was over in the nineties, but what the hell.
I vote for
MrWriteSF
November 16th, 2011 1:25 AM
@SeanV: If Quinn needs to see a therapist, how 'bout if Santana joins her--they could get a group rate. Now don't get me wrong--no one...NO ONE should be outed, particularly in anger, but if Santana is gonna dis(h) it out, be prepared to have a heaping plateful yourself.
I forgot Brittany outed her on Fondue for Two...I'm less angry at Finn. I also thought about it a little more and I feel like Finn genuinely wanted to help her in that moment; it was like the harsh truth she needed to hear...not really angry at Finn. In that final moment before Santana slapped him (which was real by the way), Finn did say that even though everyone knew, no one cared...ok I forgive you, Finn!
kay
November 16th, 2011 12:15 AM
um, finn didn't really out her. everyone at school already knew, and finn was pointing out something true- santanna's a bitch because she's insecure about being gay. she has a big secret, and accidentally coming out is bad, but it doesn't excuse her horrible behaviour. there's a difference between being kind of bitchy and funny, and what she did to rory. that was plain up bullying, and it shouldn't be dismissed just because she has a secret, same as korovsky
She's only 24, but she can't afford to wait if she wants to make it big in the music business. I think she definitely can. She's amazing from top to bottom and I can't believe its taken the powers that be so long to feature her so prominently on the show.
Here's to Naya's amazing performance and hope that she makes it big.
whateva
November 15th, 2011 11:40 PM
@SeanV
actually Brittany outed her last season on her web show fondue for two which is why Finn pointed out most of the school kids knew already but did not care.
It also did not seem to be some public outing as no one at the time look like they were paying attention to the argument.
@Kay I agree. the writers seem to forget some details.
I don't know where to begin...Finn or Santana? I don't want to pick sides because I love both characters so much, but the fighting was vicious, dirty, and way below the belt! Let's be honest, Santana's always been a b**ch. The fact that she "keeps it real" is part of her appeal, but the bullying insults were completely uncalled for. I mean she couldn't expect Finn to just take it all lying down. That said, I think Finn outing Santana is one of the meanest things I've ever seen on this show. My heart was actually hurting after that scene, and I really wanted to cry during the Adele mashup. If there's one thing this episode's convinced me of, it's that Naya Rivera needs an Emmy and/or Golden Globe nomination pronto. I think she's finally tapped into who Santana is as a scared, conflicted young girl, and I really want to see her performance praised for all its awesomeness. The dodgeball scene was epic, the music was fantastic, Quinn needs to see a therapist STAT, and I'm falling more and
C.
November 15th, 2011 11:21 PM
Ha. I actually went back to watch that scene and Naya definitely broke character there. So cute. Her and Heather play off each other so well. I hope the show lets them be more playful once the inevitable angst settles down.
kay
November 15th, 2011 11:12 PM
am i seriously the only one who remembers that neither teams have enough members for sectionals? how have they already been accepted?! it's so frustrating how they drop entire storylines. like, the entire first season was about finding enough members, now the troubletones, with 6 members can compete??
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November 16th, 2011 4:35 AM
Outing someone is seriously never okay. I'd say Finn knowing the reason why Santana is being a bitch makes his outing of her so much worse. "Well I'll just rip out your deepest feelings of insecurity and confusion for everyone to see, okay?" and Yeah. I'm pretty sure he didn't intend for it to blow up like it did and Santana was on a mean streak, It's still seriously uncool.
And there's quite a leap from having rumors stir up from an amateur webshow and having it showing up on the news.
November 16th, 2011 3:28 AM
@kay
Completely agree! Glee is seriously inconsistent. The writers need to stop patting themselves on the back for a great season one and get back to work.
Rank: Staff Member
November 16th, 2011 3:21 AM
I think this was the first episode all season where I actually like all of the musical numbers. You and I is my favorite Gaga song and Idina did it perfectly. That said, Adele was just the best, hands down. Spectacular job by Naya and Amber.
Rank: Guest Star
November 16th, 2011 2:37 AM
The Hall and Oates bit was hardly even a mashup. There were like four lines from the second song in it. I was gonna call complete Bull until Quinn spit out those few words from the song. The Adele mash up was....spectacular doesn't capture it. The choreography was great. The singing was stellar. The women looked fantastic and it was so heartwrenching, the two songs together. They killed it.
I also think that Finn was coming from a good place when he outed Santana there. But he was still pulling out his big gun after the bile she spewed at him. That was harsh.
Who the hell would vote for Kurt? His platform, "no dodgeball, no fatty foods" is lame...And the man seems, every time he speaks, like he's just barely keeping himself from crying....Blecch. Nobody helped ANY of them with their speeches? I see the hockey dudes are taking over for the football team now. I think that hockey hair is pretty much over...and was over in the nineties, but what the hell.
I vote for
November 16th, 2011 1:25 AM
@SeanV: If Quinn needs to see a therapist, how 'bout if Santana joins her--they could get a group rate. Now don't get me wrong--no one...NO ONE should be outed, particularly in anger, but if Santana is gonna dis(h) it out, be prepared to have a heaping plateful yourself.
Rank: New User
November 16th, 2011 12:28 AM
@ whateva
I forgot Brittany outed her on Fondue for Two...I'm less angry at Finn. I also thought about it a little more and I feel like Finn genuinely wanted to help her in that moment; it was like the harsh truth she needed to hear...not really angry at Finn. In that final moment before Santana slapped him (which was real by the way), Finn did say that even though everyone knew, no one cared...ok I forgive you, Finn!
November 16th, 2011 12:15 AM
um, finn didn't really out her. everyone at school already knew, and finn was pointing out something true- santanna's a bitch because she's insecure about being gay. she has a big secret, and accidentally coming out is bad, but it doesn't excuse her horrible behaviour. there's a difference between being kind of bitchy and funny, and what she did to rory. that was plain up bullying, and it shouldn't be dismissed just because she has a secret, same as korovsky
November 16th, 2011 12:00 AM
Naya Rivera is a star. She is a Puerto Rican diva and her voice is just perfect. Every time she takes center stage on Glee, she teals the show. She's got the voice, the moves, the looks, the talent. If she ever decided to leave Glee, I think she could definitely be the next Beyoncé/J-Lo. Plus, she's got a kick-ass name. Naya? That's a perfect artist name.
She's only 24, but she can't afford to wait if she wants to make it big in the music business. I think she definitely can. She's amazing from top to bottom and I can't believe its taken the powers that be so long to feature her so prominently on the show.
Here's to Naya's amazing performance and hope that she makes it big.
November 15th, 2011 11:40 PM
@SeanV
actually Brittany outed her last season on her web show fondue for two which is why Finn pointed out most of the school kids knew already but did not care.
It also did not seem to be some public outing as no one at the time look like they were paying attention to the argument.
@Kay I agree. the writers seem to forget some details.
Rank: New User
November 15th, 2011 11:26 PM
I don't know where to begin...Finn or Santana? I don't want to pick sides because I love both characters so much, but the fighting was vicious, dirty, and way below the belt! Let's be honest, Santana's always been a b**ch. The fact that she "keeps it real" is part of her appeal, but the bullying insults were completely uncalled for. I mean she couldn't expect Finn to just take it all lying down. That said, I think Finn outing Santana is one of the meanest things I've ever seen on this show. My heart was actually hurting after that scene, and I really wanted to cry during the Adele mashup. If there's one thing this episode's convinced me of, it's that Naya Rivera needs an Emmy and/or Golden Globe nomination pronto. I think she's finally tapped into who Santana is as a scared, conflicted young girl, and I really want to see her performance praised for all its awesomeness. The dodgeball scene was epic, the music was fantastic, Quinn needs to see a therapist STAT, and I'm falling more and
November 15th, 2011 11:21 PM
Ha. I actually went back to watch that scene and Naya definitely broke character there. So cute. Her and Heather play off each other so well. I hope the show lets them be more playful once the inevitable angst settles down.
November 15th, 2011 11:12 PM
am i seriously the only one who remembers that neither teams have enough members for sectionals? how have they already been accepted?! it's so frustrating how they drop entire storylines. like, the entire first season was about finding enough members, now the troubletones, with 6 members can compete??