Hawaii Five-0 Review: Out of the Dog House Comments (Page 2)
82 Comments
HFO
November 12th, 2011 11:06 PM
Yea we shouldn't be blaming Lauren German for the horrific Lori Weston character, she doesnt write the material that shes given. That being said, the weston character dosent have any unique assests to add to the five o team, unlike kamekona (the police informant), Max (the quirky autopsy guy who adds comic relief), and even Fong (The labatory guy who had a link to kono). Lori weston shouldve had some previous link with any of the five o team, that wouldve made the character more believable. hopefully in episode 10, wo fat takes down lori weston. too bad jenna kaye isnt going to be back. give the orginal four more screen time and the fans will continue watching. even add a little romantic interest
Benita Lee
November 12th, 2011 8:34 PM
Zia: you make some excellent points. Whether you like the CHARACTER of Lori Weston or not, the (personal) attacks on the ACTRESS Lauren Graham are cruel and unfair.
That being said, I think part of the problem was that Lori was sold as the "female McGarrett". One of the early criticism, esp. of the pilot episode, was that Alex O'Loughlin was stiff and wooden -- which fit the Navy SEAL military man that he was. However, over the first season, AOL managed to add humanity, vulnerability and different facets to McG, which made the audience embrace him.
Because the Lori character has lacked any unique talents (think Max, Charlie Fong or Kamekona), a purpose (Sang Min) and/or a backstory (Victor Hesse, Wo Fat), she has remained an enigma. Blame the producers and the writers for this. It's not enough to list all the characteristics that make her the female McG (she supposedly likes sports, knows martial arts etc.); it has to be shown and put in the context of character development.
Les
November 12th, 2011 7:11 PM
A petition? Really? I hope some of these people involved in that also use some of their time and passion on real life things that actually matter, as opposed to a fictional character on a tv show. I really don't get it. I have no problem with opinions different than mine. It's just that I see a lot of the same people complaining about the show week after week. Personally, I still like the show, but if it bothered me as much as it seems to bother some people, I wouldn't for long. It's a tv show. I really don't think it's worth getting that upset about.
Zia Rank: Regular Character
November 11th, 2011 10:20 AM
This is to respond to previous comment, Nicole.
I agree with you on one point, a petition and the personal attacks, such as personal looks, at the actress playing Lori, is overboard and cruel.
The comment that the character did not take away from the other characters is wrong. At the end of last season we wanted to see more of Chin and Kono.
After the lst episode, we barely saw Kono until the episode where they showed she was undercover for IA. Then, after that, we saw less of her again.
In the meantime, we saw about the same of Chin, and less of Danny, while the Lori character had as much screen time as Steve. They should introduce a character gradually, as change is not shoved down your throat. Now is that the actress fault? NO, its the writers and producers. Even those that like Lori, understand that the show is not what it was and a large part of that is do to the core 4, (except Steve), were not getting the screen time that they deserved, since they are the ones that m
Nicole
November 10th, 2011 5:23 PM
So i'm probably one in a minority that actually really likes Lori being on the show and I think it's kinda of unfair how a lot of you are judging her because she 'takes' the screen time away from the core four.
What you guys need to remember and understand is that sometimes shows are changed by adding new characters into or changing the scenery maybe but that doesn't mean that the originals are gunna be around any less.
Look at the promo for next week there's more Kono/Chin and Steve and we might not of seen Danny yet but we know he'll be in it aswell.
I get it...you guys don't like Lori but you don't need to rub it in the faces of those who do like all the time by saying that there's a petition for her removal on another site, it's just harsh.
Keep going Lori Weston (Lauren German) your doing great :)
Patty
November 10th, 2011 3:14 PM
There is not one thing that could be done to make me accept Lori or anyone else on the team! I didn't like Jenna and I can't stand Lori. They both seemed to just take over. The best is the core 4 with Kono the only woman on the team. If they need more characters to ease the workload, have only recurring characters - DONT MESS WITH THE ORIGINAL FIVE O TEAM OF STEVE, DANNY, CHIN, AND KONO!!!! I think November 7ths episode was the third best. I think the season opener was the best, and the episode with Kono being revealed as an undercover cop was the second best.
David
November 10th, 2011 8:48 AM
I agree with some of the other posters. Lori has to go. She is a fifth wheel and ruins the chemistry of the core four.
Helen
November 10th, 2011 2:48 AM
Whether Lori is a good actress or not is not the point. She has no charisma with the rest of the cast and does not fit in. Not every actress can play every part. That's why they have to audition. If you watched "White Collar" the first season, Loren had no charisma with the stars of the show. She was a talented actress, beautiful, but everything she said came across as sarcastic and she did not fit in with the main characters. When she left and they brought in Marsha Thomasin, everything clicked and when she said something sarcastic it fit in. All the main characters, six of them now, work together great and "White Collar" is going strong into its 4th Season!
Linda E.
November 9th, 2011 11:42 PM
This was a pretty good episode. Funny Steve/Danno moments, the dog is adorable, no embarassing goo-goo eyes between Lori and Steve. Alex was fabulous, as usual.
I don't care for Lauren German because she doesn't fit with the team, and I also don't think she's much of an actress. And yeah, if she's supposed to be the Governor's watchdog, why hasn't she reported to him even once? That said, someone starting a petition to have her ousted is just mean. It's too much like obsessive Moonlight loonies. I feel sorry for the girl having people Tweet to tell her how much she is hated. She will still finish the twelve episodes she was contracted for.
Salt Lake
November 9th, 2011 11:06 PM
I agree with Danny on that Oahu hell-hole of animal quarantine center (the only factual line in this episode)that poor dog was looking at 120 days of hard time under the freeway. Another thing that's coming through as the show progresses is that there is only so much to see on the island before rock fever kicks in and they find themselves driving the island from different directions to relieve the monotony.
Kat
November 9th, 2011 8:08 PM
I agree, Lauren German is lovely, it's her character Lori that needs to go! I feel bad for LG as she is only given the material and must go with it. I have to say I realized yesterday though that I think the misfit with her is LARGELY due to chemistry! What I mean by that is I don't think she fits with the core four, and this is why I don't like her. That being said, I almost was able to tolerate her in this most recent episode because I do find she did have chemistry with the Jeff Morrison character! I really enjoyed his guest spot and thought he fit in with the team immediately and he seemed to be enough a bridge with the core four that Lori annoyed me much less! Maybe it's a numbers game, the odd number doesn't work. Maybe if they are going to add another team member like Lori, they need to add 2 more and make it a team of 6, or last night might have just been the fact that she wasn't hanging off of Steve & Danny constantly. Also enjoyed the fact that we saw more of Chin
Jon Ellington Rank: New User
November 9th, 2011 7:18 PM
I have no problem with this season, or with Lori.
Eva
November 9th, 2011 7:04 PM
To me, it is really the writing that is "off" this season. It's not just Lori, who I would've liked if she'd done what she was there for in the last episodes. I even thought she had some chemistry with Danno, not with Steve :) But..the way she is presented.. it just doesn't work at all. Maybe she is a good actress but she is not good with this character, even with the writing this season.
Danno is nagging way too much and making "dumb" remarks just for laughs, he is getting one dimensional and to me that is also the writing. McGarret isn't his old self either, even with what's happened last season he is "off" too. Like when Kono got in trouble, the way he responded after the stuff that happened at the bank was so held in.
I don't understand why they switch writers so much and directors too. They had a great formula and they tried to make more of it. I hope they will wake up and see that we need more depth, and better story lines. It was one of a kind last year and now it is just ano
Mia
November 9th, 2011 5:23 PM
Jim, what do you mean by a short season? They've already signed on for 22 episodes, with the extra 2 pending, I believe.
Jonathan
November 9th, 2011 2:11 PM
More of the same Monday night. Watched it on dvd also. As far as mumbling, I have picked up on that but not threw the whole show. The petition against Lori/Lauren. I've got news for fans, CBS will not pay any attention to that. The best way to get the point across is to DVD the show and not watch it live, thus affecting ratings....Get it?
Sherry W
November 9th, 2011 1:23 PM
My husband and I watched H50 on dvr last night. My husband states that Steve/Alex mumbles a lot of the time and it's hard to understand him. I didn't hear that, but when I ask around people are telling me the same thing. Am I the only one who doesn't see this? BUT they all agree Lori sucks and needs to go. They also all agree Danny/Scott is awesome and Steve/Danny together makes for good entertainment.
Jim Garner Rank: Staff Member
November 9th, 2011 12:48 PM
For Singgirl,
Last season went a full 24 episodes but they took a break for the Holidays. I suspect they are doing the same and the "two more episodes" is just until the first of the year.
I have read nothing that H5O was planning a short season, if you have a link to information otherwise, please share :)
Jim
michael
November 9th, 2011 9:24 AM
dont know whats wrong with you @jack everybody loves ziva exept you jack or should i say michael.
Carrieanne
November 9th, 2011 7:56 AM
On a shallow note that picture of Steve above the review is rather fine :)
Carrieanne
November 9th, 2011 7:53 AM
I loved this episode. Although I enjoyed last weeks and loved the cage fighting one too, so I've not been as unhappy with this season as the reviewer.
Alex O'Loughlin was great in this episode! His face with the dog was hilarious.
I still don't like Lori as a character but she was much less annoying in this episode as she wasn't there all the time with Steve and Danny like a third wheel. I don't think LG is a bad actress I just think the character isn't needed and therefore isn't likd by the fans. I mean when you have such amazing chemistry between a team why mess it up.
I hope they write her out or change her so that she works outside of the team in a way and doesn't get in the way of the bromance or take time from Kono and Chin. I don't like Lori but I really don't like the hate for Lauren German either. I feel sorry for her, wow having so much hate at you. I'd be a wreck. She seems really nice when you see her interviewed too.
nadriss
November 9th, 2011 5:22 AM
Overall a good episode, the bromance was in great shape, Chin and Kono were indeed present on the screen ... Note that there is a slight improvement about Lori, we know she can climb trees and we have seen how ...
In the next episode, we see a smile a little .... I do not know if I should laugh or cry ...
At this rate we'll know all of it by the end of the 12 episodes where it should appear in the season or who knows??
I'm really sorry for Lauren German is really brave of her to interpret a poorly written character ... Respect
Singgirl Rank: New User
November 9th, 2011 3:42 AM
Boy lots of people way harsh on lori weston. You know sometimes an actor is more then just what you see on the screen. You have to look to the director of that episode, the writers & from what i have seen from wiki (dunno how reliable a source that is) the writer and director for all the episodes this season have been almost random.
I don't know enough about her acting ability and not sure its fair to judge it given above, BUT i will say i dont think having her character around is adding much to the overarcing story line. To me its interesting the mcgarret character is written to be a little bit of a tool (dont everyone jump on me:) in that the cath gf character is more used to him coming to her lately more as a resource then as a gf - his character never seems to have a problem "using" her..its interesting character development.
I feel the weston character is being foisted on mcgarret to be a love interest and it just doestn work.
I hate the word but do love the "bro
NancyE
November 8th, 2011 10:37 PM
Last nights episode was the second best of the season (after the opener). The bromance between Steve and Danny was perfect; and the look on Steve's face in the back seat of Danny's car was priceless. The downside: Lori. It doesn't matter what she's doing, running, working the computer or telling someone she's sorry that a friend of theirs had died, she has only one expression: Totally blank. She has no purpose on the show and is sucking the life out of the show. Please Peter L. and CBS, please do not extend her contract beyond the original 12 episodes.
Ammi
November 8th, 2011 8:30 PM
I LOVED this episode! Steve's expression when he was watching that movie with Danny was priceless! This was the best episode this season!
I'm really not sure what it is about Lori that I don't like. It just doesn't seem like she adds a whole lot, partly the result of writing issues. (This season has had a lot of them lately) I don't know why but writing in a new character seems to be tough for a lot of shows, especially in a sophomore season. Although being the new kid on the block is never easy. I will say though, she was much more bearable this week, just being a part of the team. And I think that's what it would take for me to be able to like her (just a little), making her a part of the team instead of all this pointless extra stuff they throw in. What's the point of adding a possible love interest if she isn't widely liked!?
P.S. Bring back Jenna!
This episode was better with less Lori. Nothing would make me like her character, and the actress cannot act. I didn't like the Jenna character either. They were both "Mary Sue" characters and know it alls. Expand some of the other characters, Kamakono (spelling) Charlie, Max.
Loved all the team moments and loved the dog!
Danny Williams: Sinead O'Connor called, she wants her hairstyle back.
November 12th, 2011 11:06 PM
Yea we shouldn't be blaming Lauren German for the horrific Lori Weston character, she doesnt write the material that shes given. That being said, the weston character dosent have any unique assests to add to the five o team, unlike kamekona (the police informant), Max (the quirky autopsy guy who adds comic relief), and even Fong (The labatory guy who had a link to kono). Lori weston shouldve had some previous link with any of the five o team, that wouldve made the character more believable. hopefully in episode 10, wo fat takes down lori weston. too bad jenna kaye isnt going to be back. give the orginal four more screen time and the fans will continue watching. even add a little romantic interest
November 12th, 2011 8:34 PM
Zia: you make some excellent points. Whether you like the CHARACTER of Lori Weston or not, the (personal) attacks on the ACTRESS Lauren Graham are cruel and unfair.
That being said, I think part of the problem was that Lori was sold as the "female McGarrett". One of the early criticism, esp. of the pilot episode, was that Alex O'Loughlin was stiff and wooden -- which fit the Navy SEAL military man that he was. However, over the first season, AOL managed to add humanity, vulnerability and different facets to McG, which made the audience embrace him.
Because the Lori character has lacked any unique talents (think Max, Charlie Fong or Kamekona), a purpose (Sang Min) and/or a backstory (Victor Hesse, Wo Fat), she has remained an enigma. Blame the producers and the writers for this. It's not enough to list all the characteristics that make her the female McG (she supposedly likes sports, knows martial arts etc.); it has to be shown and put in the context of character development.
November 12th, 2011 7:11 PM
A petition? Really? I hope some of these people involved in that also use some of their time and passion on real life things that actually matter, as opposed to a fictional character on a tv show. I really don't get it. I have no problem with opinions different than mine. It's just that I see a lot of the same people complaining about the show week after week. Personally, I still like the show, but if it bothered me as much as it seems to bother some people, I wouldn't for long. It's a tv show. I really don't think it's worth getting that upset about.
Rank: Regular Character
November 11th, 2011 10:20 AM
This is to respond to previous comment, Nicole.
I agree with you on one point, a petition and the personal attacks, such as personal looks, at the actress playing Lori, is overboard and cruel.
The comment that the character did not take away from the other characters is wrong. At the end of last season we wanted to see more of Chin and Kono.
After the lst episode, we barely saw Kono until the episode where they showed she was undercover for IA. Then, after that, we saw less of her again.
In the meantime, we saw about the same of Chin, and less of Danny, while the Lori character had as much screen time as Steve. They should introduce a character gradually, as change is not shoved down your throat. Now is that the actress fault? NO, its the writers and producers. Even those that like Lori, understand that the show is not what it was and a large part of that is do to the core 4, (except Steve), were not getting the screen time that they deserved, since they are the ones that m
November 10th, 2011 5:23 PM
So i'm probably one in a minority that actually really likes Lori being on the show and I think it's kinda of unfair how a lot of you are judging her because she 'takes' the screen time away from the core four.
What you guys need to remember and understand is that sometimes shows are changed by adding new characters into or changing the scenery maybe but that doesn't mean that the originals are gunna be around any less.
Look at the promo for next week there's more Kono/Chin and Steve and we might not of seen Danny yet but we know he'll be in it aswell.
I get it...you guys don't like Lori but you don't need to rub it in the faces of those who do like all the time by saying that there's a petition for her removal on another site, it's just harsh.
Keep going Lori Weston (Lauren German) your doing great :)
November 10th, 2011 3:14 PM
There is not one thing that could be done to make me accept Lori or anyone else on the team! I didn't like Jenna and I can't stand Lori. They both seemed to just take over. The best is the core 4 with Kono the only woman on the team. If they need more characters to ease the workload, have only recurring characters - DONT MESS WITH THE ORIGINAL FIVE O TEAM OF STEVE, DANNY, CHIN, AND KONO!!!! I think November 7ths episode was the third best. I think the season opener was the best, and the episode with Kono being revealed as an undercover cop was the second best.
November 10th, 2011 8:48 AM
I agree with some of the other posters. Lori has to go. She is a fifth wheel and ruins the chemistry of the core four.
November 10th, 2011 2:48 AM
Whether Lori is a good actress or not is not the point. She has no charisma with the rest of the cast and does not fit in. Not every actress can play every part. That's why they have to audition. If you watched "White Collar" the first season, Loren had no charisma with the stars of the show. She was a talented actress, beautiful, but everything she said came across as sarcastic and she did not fit in with the main characters. When she left and they brought in Marsha Thomasin, everything clicked and when she said something sarcastic it fit in. All the main characters, six of them now, work together great and "White Collar" is going strong into its 4th Season!
November 9th, 2011 11:42 PM
This was a pretty good episode. Funny Steve/Danno moments, the dog is adorable, no embarassing goo-goo eyes between Lori and Steve. Alex was fabulous, as usual.
I don't care for Lauren German because she doesn't fit with the team, and I also don't think she's much of an actress. And yeah, if she's supposed to be the Governor's watchdog, why hasn't she reported to him even once? That said, someone starting a petition to have her ousted is just mean. It's too much like obsessive Moonlight loonies. I feel sorry for the girl having people Tweet to tell her how much she is hated. She will still finish the twelve episodes she was contracted for.
November 9th, 2011 11:06 PM
I agree with Danny on that Oahu hell-hole of animal quarantine center (the only factual line in this episode)that poor dog was looking at 120 days of hard time under the freeway. Another thing that's coming through as the show progresses is that there is only so much to see on the island before rock fever kicks in and they find themselves driving the island from different directions to relieve the monotony.
November 9th, 2011 8:08 PM
I agree, Lauren German is lovely, it's her character Lori that needs to go! I feel bad for LG as she is only given the material and must go with it. I have to say I realized yesterday though that I think the misfit with her is LARGELY due to chemistry! What I mean by that is I don't think she fits with the core four, and this is why I don't like her. That being said, I almost was able to tolerate her in this most recent episode because I do find she did have chemistry with the Jeff Morrison character! I really enjoyed his guest spot and thought he fit in with the team immediately and he seemed to be enough a bridge with the core four that Lori annoyed me much less! Maybe it's a numbers game, the odd number doesn't work. Maybe if they are going to add another team member like Lori, they need to add 2 more and make it a team of 6, or last night might have just been the fact that she wasn't hanging off of Steve & Danny constantly. Also enjoyed the fact that we saw more of Chin
Rank: New User
November 9th, 2011 7:18 PM
I have no problem with this season, or with Lori.
November 9th, 2011 7:04 PM
To me, it is really the writing that is "off" this season. It's not just Lori, who I would've liked if she'd done what she was there for in the last episodes. I even thought she had some chemistry with Danno, not with Steve :) But..the way she is presented.. it just doesn't work at all. Maybe she is a good actress but she is not good with this character, even with the writing this season.
Danno is nagging way too much and making "dumb" remarks just for laughs, he is getting one dimensional and to me that is also the writing. McGarret isn't his old self either, even with what's happened last season he is "off" too. Like when Kono got in trouble, the way he responded after the stuff that happened at the bank was so held in.
I don't understand why they switch writers so much and directors too. They had a great formula and they tried to make more of it. I hope they will wake up and see that we need more depth, and better story lines. It was one of a kind last year and now it is just ano
November 9th, 2011 5:23 PM
Jim, what do you mean by a short season? They've already signed on for 22 episodes, with the extra 2 pending, I believe.
November 9th, 2011 2:11 PM
More of the same Monday night. Watched it on dvd also. As far as mumbling, I have picked up on that but not threw the whole show. The petition against Lori/Lauren. I've got news for fans, CBS will not pay any attention to that. The best way to get the point across is to DVD the show and not watch it live, thus affecting ratings....Get it?
November 9th, 2011 1:23 PM
My husband and I watched H50 on dvr last night. My husband states that Steve/Alex mumbles a lot of the time and it's hard to understand him. I didn't hear that, but when I ask around people are telling me the same thing. Am I the only one who doesn't see this? BUT they all agree Lori sucks and needs to go. They also all agree Danny/Scott is awesome and Steve/Danny together makes for good entertainment.
Rank: Staff Member
November 9th, 2011 12:48 PM
For Singgirl,
Last season went a full 24 episodes but they took a break for the Holidays. I suspect they are doing the same and the "two more episodes" is just until the first of the year.
I have read nothing that H5O was planning a short season, if you have a link to information otherwise, please share :)
Jim
November 9th, 2011 9:24 AM
dont know whats wrong with you @jack everybody loves ziva exept you jack or should i say michael.
November 9th, 2011 7:56 AM
On a shallow note that picture of Steve above the review is rather fine :)
November 9th, 2011 7:53 AM
I loved this episode. Although I enjoyed last weeks and loved the cage fighting one too, so I've not been as unhappy with this season as the reviewer.
Alex O'Loughlin was great in this episode! His face with the dog was hilarious.
I still don't like Lori as a character but she was much less annoying in this episode as she wasn't there all the time with Steve and Danny like a third wheel. I don't think LG is a bad actress I just think the character isn't needed and therefore isn't likd by the fans. I mean when you have such amazing chemistry between a team why mess it up.
I hope they write her out or change her so that she works outside of the team in a way and doesn't get in the way of the bromance or take time from Kono and Chin. I don't like Lori but I really don't like the hate for Lauren German either. I feel sorry for her, wow having so much hate at you. I'd be a wreck. She seems really nice when you see her interviewed too.
November 9th, 2011 5:22 AM
Overall a good episode, the bromance was in great shape, Chin and Kono were indeed present on the screen ... Note that there is a slight improvement about Lori, we know she can climb trees and we have seen how ...
In the next episode, we see a smile a little .... I do not know if I should laugh or cry ...
At this rate we'll know all of it by the end of the 12 episodes where it should appear in the season or who knows??
I'm really sorry for Lauren German is really brave of her to interpret a poorly written character ... Respect
Rank: New User
November 9th, 2011 3:42 AM
Boy lots of people way harsh on lori weston. You know sometimes an actor is more then just what you see on the screen. You have to look to the director of that episode, the writers & from what i have seen from wiki (dunno how reliable a source that is) the writer and director for all the episodes this season have been almost random.
I don't know enough about her acting ability and not sure its fair to judge it given above, BUT i will say i dont think having her character around is adding much to the overarcing story line. To me its interesting the mcgarret character is written to be a little bit of a tool (dont everyone jump on me:) in that the cath gf character is more used to him coming to her lately more as a resource then as a gf - his character never seems to have a problem "using" her..its interesting character development.
I feel the weston character is being foisted on mcgarret to be a love interest and it just doestn work.
I hate the word but do love the "bro
November 8th, 2011 10:37 PM
Last nights episode was the second best of the season (after the opener). The bromance between Steve and Danny was perfect; and the look on Steve's face in the back seat of Danny's car was priceless. The downside: Lori. It doesn't matter what she's doing, running, working the computer or telling someone she's sorry that a friend of theirs had died, she has only one expression: Totally blank. She has no purpose on the show and is sucking the life out of the show. Please Peter L. and CBS, please do not extend her contract beyond the original 12 episodes.
November 8th, 2011 8:30 PM
I LOVED this episode! Steve's expression when he was watching that movie with Danny was priceless! This was the best episode this season!
I'm really not sure what it is about Lori that I don't like. It just doesn't seem like she adds a whole lot, partly the result of writing issues. (This season has had a lot of them lately) I don't know why but writing in a new character seems to be tough for a lot of shows, especially in a sophomore season. Although being the new kid on the block is never easy. I will say though, she was much more bearable this week, just being a part of the team. And I think that's what it would take for me to be able to like her (just a little), making her a part of the team instead of all this pointless extra stuff they throw in. What's the point of adding a possible love interest if she isn't widely liked!?
P.S. Bring back Jenna!
Rank: New User
November 8th, 2011 8:21 PM
This episode was better with less Lori. Nothing would make me like her character, and the actress cannot act. I didn't like the Jenna character either. They were both "Mary Sue" characters and know it alls. Expand some of the other characters, Kamakono (spelling) Charlie, Max.
Loved all the team moments and loved the dog!