Gossip Girl Round Table: "Riding in Town Cars With Boys" Comments (Page 4)
128 Comments
GG
December 7th, 2011 10:38 PM
@ lulu
All I did was ask an honest to God question as to why some individual's had such differing reactions to the two situations. I thank you for answering my inquiry honestly, because, ya know, I was curious. Let me amend my first post then by saying of course the circumstances I spoke of were different. Chuck has done some terrible things & he and Blair were in a tumultuous on-again off-again relationship wherein the love was reciprocated. Chuck abused that love. Yes, true, he did have sex with Blair, contact which she clearly initiated, before Chuck realized Blair was happier with Louis and thus convinced her not to be with him. Meanwhile, Dan is a good guy (relative to the GG world) who did not tell Blair about his feelings and, instead, continued to nurse his 6 month (?) crush so he could bring her to Chuck.
Do I get a gold star for understanding the basic situations on this incredibly complex show?
So the situations were different, as we've established. The histo
pty
December 7th, 2011 10:19 PM
@ only_one: I hope you are not referring to Gina, the hot italian au pair Chuck told Eric about in 2x11, because Diana is not italian at all. If you are referring to another lady could you please tell me in which episode she was mentioned.
@ Charlie Trout: you are indeed correct, Chuck never got amnesia after the shot and I don't know from where people got that impression.
@ Helene: I don't feel exactly like you but I totally get where you are comming from.
I really hope they don't go the amnesia route, but the end of the affair idea doesn't make it better for me either.
Like Derena forever said, Dan and Serena forever! They need to get over themselves.
There are crazy and same people in both Chuck and Blair and Dair ships, please chill.
Derena Forever
December 7th, 2011 10:03 PM
Okay, so, where to begin. i see where all of the Dair fans are coming from i guess...they bring some much needed light heartedness to the show. but i dont see there being a romantic future with them, or a romantic present. the feelings are definitly not mutual and i think Dan needs to get over it and just focus on their friendship which i enjoy. Blair would never choose Dan over Chuck and has yet to admit she has any feelings for him past friendship. She would never do that to Serena, and if she does i will be so dissapointed with the writers. if the roles were reversed and it was Serena having a romantic fling/friendship with Chuck and if he was in love with her, Blair would NEVER be okay with it or let it happen. she would be horrified and would probably end her friendship with Serena. Serena has been so strong with it, and yes she's gotten jealous a few times but she never went to extremes the way that everyone knows (but probably wont admit) Blair would go if Chuck were in love wi
LaLa
December 7th, 2011 10:00 PM
This is SO mexican soap opera! I think I know what'll happen. Blair looses the baby due to the loss of blood. Chuck will be incredibly injured and might die and so Blair goes to the chapel and pays for god to save him and promises to keep away from him if he does. He survives because, let's be honest, Chuck CAN'T die; He and Blairs death would be the death of the show. Blair has to stay true to her promise and let's chuck go and returns to Louis.
guinea
December 7th, 2011 9:09 PM
@Helene
Ever heard of the "enter" button? It might make your arguments a little bit more tolerable. Maybe.
@DairDreamer
You are so spot on about Blair regressing into a whiny, pouty little girl. The reason why Blair was so intriguing last season was because she converted everything bad in her life into a motivation to becoming a better person. She is now reduced to nothing but Chuck's toy. None of Blair's relationships have ended simply because there's no more love. They've always ended because she needed to go back to Chuck. A lot of Chuck's relationships ended simply because it wasn't meant to be, not because he was so dependent on Blair.
I re-watched seasons 1 and 2. They made me realize why I fell in love with Chuck (he also used to be... thinner) and Blair. They had it all: the spark, the drama, even the love. Then the writers cut them off and forced them back together and forced them apart, etc. It's basically a rinse and repeat cycle. Why not focus on other characters?
Dairdreamer
December 7th, 2011 7:19 PM
I'm not sure exactly what needs to happen to Blair for her to realize that the darkness that is her and Chuck follows them when they're together....regardless of whether they've matured or not. Blame it on the writers for writing Chair that way since S1. But at the core, the couple works because of their darkness, not in spite of it. Take the tragedy aspect of the relationship away and Chair is boring.
As a previously diehard Chair shipper it wasn't the hotel trade of Blair that did it or the almost physical violence of Blair but the accumulation of all the selfish decisions Chuck made that resulted in his poor treatment of her time and time again. His bad behavior was always rewarded because Blair was always there, waiting in the wings like a sad puppy that got kicked again and again but still runs after it's master. Chuck was always let off the hook because...well he's Chuck Bass. Whatever that means anymore.
Blair hasn't grown up to me. She's actually regressed. Chuck knows
Ophelia Rank: Regular Character
December 7th, 2011 6:26 PM
@ lulu
You explained the difference between the two situations perfectly. In fact Dan did what he did also because he knew he had nothing to lose, Blair's doubts were about Chuck and Louis. Would have Dan done the same thing if he thought he stood a chance? I don't think so.
When Chuck let Blair go she was willing to break off the engagement with Louis to be with him. He had everything to lose.
B
December 7th, 2011 6:24 PM
@Jersey Girl
yes, the GG eps with car crashes are always EXTRA special!
@Jonas: Like I said, I'm not watching the show to find something I'd do in real life. I want some romance that is excessive, passionate, sometime pushed far in terms of emotions, where reason is not always coming back to say : "be careful, this is not healthy". Knowing myself and the fact that I have a pretty healthy mind (I hope at least), I wouldn't fall for a Chuck Bass in real life. What I like in the show is that Chuck was crossing many lines in the begining which really made me laugh (appart from the almost rape scene with Jenny that I found disgusting). When he ended up with Blair I fell in love with their chemistry, with the fact that they were both flawed but somehow they understood each other better than anyone else, without judgement. We could also see another side of Chuck, which was also very pleasant. That's why in my opinion, they are for each other. They've grown together, they've learnt from some of their mistakes, but remains unperfect. I love the fact that he accepts
B
December 7th, 2011 5:10 PM
I didn't get that Trip had Max cut the brakes in the limo? There was some puddle under the limo, but that's it...did I miss something? I thought the crash was just caused by paparazzi?b
Jersey Girl
December 7th, 2011 4:50 PM
good episode, it was thrilling the whole time.
@lulu
please, all chair fans are not horrible. you act as if all dair fans are angels. i actually find them much worse than chair fans. your the one causing an argument with your comment.
Tyler&CarolineLove
December 7th, 2011 4:45 PM
chair was amazing like always
ew. dan the man? please. if thats what you consider a man, then i would rather date justin bieber.
chair
December 7th, 2011 4:37 PM
who knows if the baby will survive or not, but all i know is i cant wait for the second half! i need more chair scenes!!
Kookakicha
December 7th, 2011 4:24 PM
And yes, lulu you are the Man (or woman) :-P
Kookakicha
December 7th, 2011 4:22 PM
And Rufus telling Serena indirectly about Dan loving Blair? It was priceless!
y0y0
December 7th, 2011 4:21 PM
Diana comment definitely was about religious stuff.
Like "You should thank god he didnt die". Pretty obvious due to GG constantly talking about fate and faith in the backround. And that you have to do the best out of what you get handed.
Kookakicha
December 7th, 2011 4:21 PM
This episode only strenghtened my love for Dan. Yeah, so if some Chair fans were convinced that once we know for sure (and we still don't btw) that Blair doesn't reciprocate his feelings, we will just stop our dreaming...WRONG.
After this episode, I'm only more positive about Dair.
And if it doesn't happen anyways, it doesn't matter because those two still are the best thing in the show.
Chair was all cheesy dialogues, weak, whiny and frankly borderline pitiable Blair. I don't like that. She has regressed since season 4 and gone back to defining herself as ChuckandBlair BS. Even if she doesn't go for Dan, I would much rather have her alone. I can barely stand her drama right now and I'm saying that because I love her character.
TinaTrina Rank: Regular Character
December 7th, 2011 4:00 PM
lulu is the man or woman! LOL
lulu
December 7th, 2011 3:54 PM
GG, the difference is that when Dan chose to defer silently to Chuck, he had never dated Blair, never before confessed his true feelings to her, and she had never even admitted to any romantic interest in him, much less just left her fiance behind in order to make passionate whoopie with him. So the two situations are, ah, different, but now we see yet again why catering to Chair lovers means making it a show for the senseless. At this point, Chair fans are worse than Twilight obsessives. They need to be scoured out of our collective pop culture pan like last week's oatmeal. The gossip girl producers should be punctured in the cheek with a bit of glass for having the audacity to ever ruin their show by catering to and manipulating the deranged Chairfan horde
lulu
December 7th, 2011 3:39 PM
Chivy makes me long for the return of Vanessa in exactly the same way that the current crop of useless GOP presidential candidates makes me long for the return of G.W. Bush.
GG
December 7th, 2011 3:37 PM
Not trying to start something but why is Dan "the man" for selflessly getting Chuck & Blair together despite his feelings but Chuck was deemed a controlling bastard for doing the same exact thing for Louis & Blair? I think the selflessness is admirable in both situations. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander, after all. I guess the reaction really depends on what character the viewer likes/dislikes?
Favourite quote - patriotically Dorota screaming in Polish, but other than that I'm going with Blair: "That was the moment you chose not to be selfish?". Cute :)
My general take on the first half of the season: Blair shines on every scene, Dair and Duck are my favourite friendships right now, the whole thing with Chivy is horribly stupid and Louis is horribly annoying. The midseason finale was great for many reasons: Chair in general, Dan being the best friend ever, the whole gang in the hospital together supporting each other like one big family (which they kind of are). Not a bad episode indeed.
The car crash was rather a predictable copout. Sorry.
The Man of the Week - as much as I love Nate in all his independent glory, I have to say Dan is The Man.
Most surprising plot: Trip. The whole van der Bilt family is just a bunch of scheming, lying, power-hungry rich people. Do your thing, Nate, and don't listen to them.
As for Diana - I agree with everyone else, she's relat
lulu
December 7th, 2011 3:11 PM
Finally tuned in and sadly realized I missed nothing by skipping the entire fall. Nothing has changed. Not only have the writers failed to develop the juicy potential of Blair's connections with both Louis (dull dishwater, despite having a super-hot actor in the role) and Dan (no progress here since May!), but all this meaningless up and down with Chuck has killed off the electrifying chemistry they once had. Back in seasons 1 and 2, when they had friction and crossed wires it was gut-wrenching! Their joys were positively swoony! Now, they end up in the hospital, and who gives a crap? Big deal, we know the baby was just a tired soap opera plot anyway. Chuck's death-brushes are a dime a dozen these days, and we know that no matter what utterly ad hoc ratings devices fate launches, or how violent and nasty Chuck is, or how many other dudes and fetuses she may be indulging on the side, that bleating little Blair-lamb will follow senselessly after Chuck until she dies. Who could possibly r
TinaTrina Rank: Regular Character
December 7th, 2011 1:51 PM
olga, that's not what's happening. LOL
ewela102
December 7th, 2011 1:38 PM
I can translate what Dorota says:
-Go away!!What do you imagine?!I'll give you, I'll give you!(but it means more like "I will hunt down you") You will see!
Serena: Congratulations, you've officially joined the dark side.
December 7th, 2011 10:38 PM
@ lulu
All I did was ask an honest to God question as to why some individual's had such differing reactions to the two situations. I thank you for answering my inquiry honestly, because, ya know, I was curious. Let me amend my first post then by saying of course the circumstances I spoke of were different. Chuck has done some terrible things & he and Blair were in a tumultuous on-again off-again relationship wherein the love was reciprocated. Chuck abused that love. Yes, true, he did have sex with Blair, contact which she clearly initiated, before Chuck realized Blair was happier with Louis and thus convinced her not to be with him. Meanwhile, Dan is a good guy (relative to the GG world) who did not tell Blair about his feelings and, instead, continued to nurse his 6 month (?) crush so he could bring her to Chuck.
Do I get a gold star for understanding the basic situations on this incredibly complex show?
So the situations were different, as we've established. The histo
December 7th, 2011 10:19 PM
@ only_one: I hope you are not referring to Gina, the hot italian au pair Chuck told Eric about in 2x11, because Diana is not italian at all. If you are referring to another lady could you please tell me in which episode she was mentioned.
@ Charlie Trout: you are indeed correct, Chuck never got amnesia after the shot and I don't know from where people got that impression.
@ Helene: I don't feel exactly like you but I totally get where you are comming from.
I really hope they don't go the amnesia route, but the end of the affair idea doesn't make it better for me either.
Like Derena forever said, Dan and Serena forever! They need to get over themselves.
There are crazy and same people in both Chuck and Blair and Dair ships, please chill.
December 7th, 2011 10:03 PM
Okay, so, where to begin. i see where all of the Dair fans are coming from i guess...they bring some much needed light heartedness to the show. but i dont see there being a romantic future with them, or a romantic present. the feelings are definitly not mutual and i think Dan needs to get over it and just focus on their friendship which i enjoy. Blair would never choose Dan over Chuck and has yet to admit she has any feelings for him past friendship. She would never do that to Serena, and if she does i will be so dissapointed with the writers. if the roles were reversed and it was Serena having a romantic fling/friendship with Chuck and if he was in love with her, Blair would NEVER be okay with it or let it happen. she would be horrified and would probably end her friendship with Serena. Serena has been so strong with it, and yes she's gotten jealous a few times but she never went to extremes the way that everyone knows (but probably wont admit) Blair would go if Chuck were in love wi
December 7th, 2011 10:00 PM
This is SO mexican soap opera! I think I know what'll happen. Blair looses the baby due to the loss of blood. Chuck will be incredibly injured and might die and so Blair goes to the chapel and pays for god to save him and promises to keep away from him if he does. He survives because, let's be honest, Chuck CAN'T die; He and Blairs death would be the death of the show. Blair has to stay true to her promise and let's chuck go and returns to Louis.
December 7th, 2011 9:09 PM
@Helene
Ever heard of the "enter" button? It might make your arguments a little bit more tolerable. Maybe.
@DairDreamer
You are so spot on about Blair regressing into a whiny, pouty little girl. The reason why Blair was so intriguing last season was because she converted everything bad in her life into a motivation to becoming a better person. She is now reduced to nothing but Chuck's toy. None of Blair's relationships have ended simply because there's no more love. They've always ended because she needed to go back to Chuck. A lot of Chuck's relationships ended simply because it wasn't meant to be, not because he was so dependent on Blair.
I re-watched seasons 1 and 2. They made me realize why I fell in love with Chuck (he also used to be... thinner) and Blair. They had it all: the spark, the drama, even the love. Then the writers cut them off and forced them back together and forced them apart, etc. It's basically a rinse and repeat cycle. Why not focus on other characters?
December 7th, 2011 7:19 PM
I'm not sure exactly what needs to happen to Blair for her to realize that the darkness that is her and Chuck follows them when they're together....regardless of whether they've matured or not. Blame it on the writers for writing Chair that way since S1. But at the core, the couple works because of their darkness, not in spite of it. Take the tragedy aspect of the relationship away and Chair is boring.
As a previously diehard Chair shipper it wasn't the hotel trade of Blair that did it or the almost physical violence of Blair but the accumulation of all the selfish decisions Chuck made that resulted in his poor treatment of her time and time again. His bad behavior was always rewarded because Blair was always there, waiting in the wings like a sad puppy that got kicked again and again but still runs after it's master. Chuck was always let off the hook because...well he's Chuck Bass. Whatever that means anymore.
Blair hasn't grown up to me. She's actually regressed. Chuck knows
Rank: Regular Character
December 7th, 2011 6:26 PM
@ lulu
You explained the difference between the two situations perfectly. In fact Dan did what he did also because he knew he had nothing to lose, Blair's doubts were about Chuck and Louis. Would have Dan done the same thing if he thought he stood a chance? I don't think so.
When Chuck let Blair go she was willing to break off the engagement with Louis to be with him. He had everything to lose.
December 7th, 2011 6:24 PM
@Jersey Girl
yes, the GG eps with car crashes are always EXTRA special!
Rank: Extra
December 7th, 2011 6:15 PM
@Jonas: Like I said, I'm not watching the show to find something I'd do in real life. I want some romance that is excessive, passionate, sometime pushed far in terms of emotions, where reason is not always coming back to say : "be careful, this is not healthy". Knowing myself and the fact that I have a pretty healthy mind (I hope at least), I wouldn't fall for a Chuck Bass in real life. What I like in the show is that Chuck was crossing many lines in the begining which really made me laugh (appart from the almost rape scene with Jenny that I found disgusting). When he ended up with Blair I fell in love with their chemistry, with the fact that they were both flawed but somehow they understood each other better than anyone else, without judgement. We could also see another side of Chuck, which was also very pleasant. That's why in my opinion, they are for each other. They've grown together, they've learnt from some of their mistakes, but remains unperfect. I love the fact that he accepts
December 7th, 2011 5:10 PM
I didn't get that Trip had Max cut the brakes in the limo? There was some puddle under the limo, but that's it...did I miss something? I thought the crash was just caused by paparazzi?b
December 7th, 2011 4:50 PM
good episode, it was thrilling the whole time.
@lulu
please, all chair fans are not horrible. you act as if all dair fans are angels. i actually find them much worse than chair fans. your the one causing an argument with your comment.
December 7th, 2011 4:45 PM
chair was amazing like always
ew. dan the man? please. if thats what you consider a man, then i would rather date justin bieber.
December 7th, 2011 4:37 PM
who knows if the baby will survive or not, but all i know is i cant wait for the second half! i need more chair scenes!!
December 7th, 2011 4:24 PM
And yes, lulu you are the Man (or woman) :-P
December 7th, 2011 4:22 PM
And Rufus telling Serena indirectly about Dan loving Blair? It was priceless!
December 7th, 2011 4:21 PM
Diana comment definitely was about religious stuff.
Like "You should thank god he didnt die". Pretty obvious due to GG constantly talking about fate and faith in the backround. And that you have to do the best out of what you get handed.
December 7th, 2011 4:21 PM
This episode only strenghtened my love for Dan. Yeah, so if some Chair fans were convinced that once we know for sure (and we still don't btw) that Blair doesn't reciprocate his feelings, we will just stop our dreaming...WRONG.
After this episode, I'm only more positive about Dair.
And if it doesn't happen anyways, it doesn't matter because those two still are the best thing in the show.
Chair was all cheesy dialogues, weak, whiny and frankly borderline pitiable Blair. I don't like that. She has regressed since season 4 and gone back to defining herself as ChuckandBlair BS. Even if she doesn't go for Dan, I would much rather have her alone. I can barely stand her drama right now and I'm saying that because I love her character.
Rank: Regular Character
December 7th, 2011 4:00 PM
lulu is the man or woman! LOL
December 7th, 2011 3:54 PM
GG, the difference is that when Dan chose to defer silently to Chuck, he had never dated Blair, never before confessed his true feelings to her, and she had never even admitted to any romantic interest in him, much less just left her fiance behind in order to make passionate whoopie with him. So the two situations are, ah, different, but now we see yet again why catering to Chair lovers means making it a show for the senseless. At this point, Chair fans are worse than Twilight obsessives. They need to be scoured out of our collective pop culture pan like last week's oatmeal. The gossip girl producers should be punctured in the cheek with a bit of glass for having the audacity to ever ruin their show by catering to and manipulating the deranged Chairfan horde
December 7th, 2011 3:39 PM
Chivy makes me long for the return of Vanessa in exactly the same way that the current crop of useless GOP presidential candidates makes me long for the return of G.W. Bush.
December 7th, 2011 3:37 PM
Not trying to start something but why is Dan "the man" for selflessly getting Chuck & Blair together despite his feelings but Chuck was deemed a controlling bastard for doing the same exact thing for Louis & Blair? I think the selflessness is admirable in both situations. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander, after all. I guess the reaction really depends on what character the viewer likes/dislikes?
Rank: Guest Star
December 7th, 2011 3:28 PM
Favourite quote - patriotically Dorota screaming in Polish, but other than that I'm going with Blair: "That was the moment you chose not to be selfish?". Cute :)
My general take on the first half of the season: Blair shines on every scene, Dair and Duck are my favourite friendships right now, the whole thing with Chivy is horribly stupid and Louis is horribly annoying. The midseason finale was great for many reasons: Chair in general, Dan being the best friend ever, the whole gang in the hospital together supporting each other like one big family (which they kind of are). Not a bad episode indeed.
The car crash was rather a predictable copout. Sorry.
The Man of the Week - as much as I love Nate in all his independent glory, I have to say Dan is The Man.
Most surprising plot: Trip. The whole van der Bilt family is just a bunch of scheming, lying, power-hungry rich people. Do your thing, Nate, and don't listen to them.
As for Diana - I agree with everyone else, she's relat
December 7th, 2011 3:11 PM
Finally tuned in and sadly realized I missed nothing by skipping the entire fall. Nothing has changed. Not only have the writers failed to develop the juicy potential of Blair's connections with both Louis (dull dishwater, despite having a super-hot actor in the role) and Dan (no progress here since May!), but all this meaningless up and down with Chuck has killed off the electrifying chemistry they once had. Back in seasons 1 and 2, when they had friction and crossed wires it was gut-wrenching! Their joys were positively swoony! Now, they end up in the hospital, and who gives a crap? Big deal, we know the baby was just a tired soap opera plot anyway. Chuck's death-brushes are a dime a dozen these days, and we know that no matter what utterly ad hoc ratings devices fate launches, or how violent and nasty Chuck is, or how many other dudes and fetuses she may be indulging on the side, that bleating little Blair-lamb will follow senselessly after Chuck until she dies. Who could possibly r
Rank: Regular Character
December 7th, 2011 1:51 PM
olga, that's not what's happening. LOL
December 7th, 2011 1:38 PM
I can translate what Dorota says:
-Go away!!What do you imagine?!I'll give you, I'll give you!(but it means more like "I will hunt down you") You will see!