The Big Bang Theory Review: The Bully Versus the Mathletes Comments (Page 2)
32 Comments
AmyGirl Rank: Recurring Character
December 13th, 2011 11:04 PM
I'm also sick of Amy being gay for Penny. We get it, you think she's sexy. Either date her or stop!
It's too repetitive.
AmyGirl Rank: Recurring Character
December 13th, 2011 11:03 PM
Of course this show has gone down the shitter! Chuck Lorre decided to make it somewhat of a 2.5 Men and brought THE GIRLS IN! I have hated them on the show from the minute they stepped foot on the first episode as main characters. For guys who are depicted as so nerdy they can't get laid for cash, 3/4 have girlfriends/fiancees!
Howard and Raj are NEVER showcased, and I love them. I want a Sheldon, Leonard, Raj, Howard reunion! Without the girls. Remember when Raj, Howard, and Leonard were high in the woods? I MISS that.
Oh well. Chuck Lorre ruining probably my favorite show (or one of my biggest). Why am I not surprised?
At least Amy has some good moments. And perhaps the girls could be incorporated in a better way, or kicked off (she said hopefully??). And get Penny some help, god damnit.
Spinder
December 12th, 2011 11:05 AM
@joyeful
I agree. The bullying thing was mismanged but it was one episode. Some people are going a little overboard with thier complaints. The continual mismangedment of the characters is what is destroying the show. Watching an episode from Seaon 1, 2 or 3 and then turning on Season 5 is like putting on a whole new show. I get that they tried to make it more appealing to a broader audience but they failed miserably. Besides, it was the number 1 show BEFORE they brought in Amy and Bernadette as full time cast members and turned Penny into drunked mess. If everyone was watching it before, then why the atempt to market it to a broader audience? The audience was already very broad. Raj and Howard no longer exist, Sheldon might as well just be a weirdo now who doesn't like anyone, and Amy and Bernadette forming this clique with Penny just isolates her from Sheldon. Penny and Sheldon - together - are the reason people watched this show. If this trend of turning TBBT into a bizare twist on
moores
December 12th, 2011 10:54 AM
This episode sucked as all of them have this season. Ever since Amy came on the show its gone downhill. She has destroyed Sheldon's character and has now moved on to Penny's. I just wish we could have an episode with Penny and the 4 guys, like it used to be. Amy and Bernadette dont fit in with the show. The show is all about sex and relationships now. People used to watch it because (and this is the key word) it was UNIQUE. Not its no different than every other show: sex, relationships and drama. What happened to the nerdy and science stuff? Sheldon care more about his friends than winning the Nobel prize. His not caring made the show funny. Can we get back to basic here?
Nicole
December 10th, 2011 11:22 PM
I agree with the reviewer to a point and a lot of the replies. I was bullied in school and it is not funny. It is not a comedic subject unless you are the bully instead of the victim. I highly doubt the majority of Big Bang's audience are bullies, probably most of us were the victims. Why would the writers think this is a good idea? I almost feel that they got their signing for 3 more seasons last year and they figured they didn't have to try as hard anymore. That's why it's gone downhill this season.
joyeful Rank: Regular Character
December 10th, 2011 4:21 PM
I hated this episode. Hated, hated, hated it. It wasn't funny. Not just because they mismanaged the whole bullying storyline, but because they continue to mismanage their characters. Sheldon used to be just socially inept - now he's just a mean A-hole. I agree with all the people who say that Sheldon is a verbal bully - of course he is!
I get that Penny probably didn't realize how mean she was being - a lot of bullies don't realize how hurtful their actions are, and this was a good way of showing it. But Penny stealing from poor people? That's never funny - whose idea was that?!
The fun in BBT used to be watching Penny (the one socially aware character) interact with the nerds with varying social aptitude. I don't know what's happening with this show.
Emma
December 10th, 2011 12:47 PM
Totally agree with the reviewer and... I never disliked Penny so much.
Carla
December 10th, 2011 12:22 PM
I used to like this programme. However, last episode didn’t make me smile not even once; it was truly with bad taste. Bulling is a serious matter... Come on! There are kids committing suicide in real life for this problem. Why not to make a difference making fun of bullies? Let’s use the media to help putting things straight... or neither producer nor writers have enough imagination? About Bernadette, in a former episode she bought a Rolex to her fiancé Howard... so I’m sure she can afford a pair of boots.
tbbtwatcher
December 10th, 2011 6:31 AM
Don't really agree with Sheldon being a bully though. I think it's a part of his social ineptness. Whereas implicitly condoning Jimmy's outright and mean spirited bullying (in a way) - that was just too much and way too depressing. It was horrible to watch.
tbbtwatcher
December 10th, 2011 6:28 AM
I have to agree with the reviewer. This was one extremely depressing episode.
LelaRose Rank: Regular Character
December 10th, 2011 12:32 AM
Well, I think Chuck Lorre is taking both his prime time shows in bad directions. Two and a Half Men stinks, of all the replacements he could have chosen, he had to pick Aston Kutcher? Not only that but the writing has seriously gone down hill. The same goes for Big Bang Theory. The show feels tired. Sheldon's antics are becoming less and less amusing, Penny basically has no point anymore (which I think is a waste of talent in regards to Kaley Cocoa), Leonard is boring, and there's less nerdiness each week. I think this show has the potential to really be good again, but pandering to cheap humor is demeaning to it's audience. And I've already mentioned my issues with this week's episode, so I wont go there again.
Jeannie
December 9th, 2011 9:17 PM
I'd like to know what the actress who plays Penny did to make the writers and/or producers dislike her so. Penny used to be so much fun and likable, you were always pulling for her to make her own success. Now, they could write her out and it would almost be a relief. Note to the writers: Penny as a drunk, bully, or thief - Not Funny! Give us back our strong willed and good natured Penny!
LelaRose Rank: Regular Character
December 9th, 2011 7:57 PM
*kids are committing suicide over bullying, not Big Bang. Just to clarify
LelaRose Rank: Regular Character
December 9th, 2011 7:56 PM
Please forgive my numerous typos, I was in a hurry when I wrote it
LelaRose Rank: Regular Character
December 9th, 2011 7:54 PM
Unknown, good for you for owning up. That can't be easy either and now you can teach your children to be empathic as well.
I 100% agree with the reviewer. Yes, its supposed to be comedy but it doesn't making it any less depressing to watch. Maybe Leonard doesn't ever get Jimmy to actually change but the least they could do was call Sheldon out for his verbal abuse. You can see the characters are sick of it and now would have been a good opportunity to address it. I re-watched the first season and Sheldon wasn't a warm, fluffy bunny but he always had his friend's back at least. He was less vicious and more condescending, now he's just an asshole. I don't know why the guys put up with him other than they feel like they have no choice.
Penny grated on my nerves this time around. Even her last minute attack of guilt didn't do anything for me. She basically spent the entire episode in self pity because she felt bad for hurting people. You can't apologize for making fun of someone's s
-UNKNOWN- Rank: Guest Star
December 9th, 2011 6:16 PM
I Liked the episode, I was a little bully at school and I am a pusher as a person sometimes. It make me feel like people really change for the past to the present and how I was a bully and not even knew about it (the penny storyline) I think they are allot of people that not even knew they ware bully's neater.
Spinder
December 9th, 2011 3:52 PM
I think the bullying stuff is being a little over analyzed here. It is a comedy and needs to be taken with a grain of salt. That being said it wasn't very funny. Continuing the trend of this season, the only funny part was the opening act. Finally Penny and Sheldon spoke to one another. I swear its like there are two shows now: the guys and the girls. Get Penny and Sheldon in the same room more often! She is the only one who can keep his verbal abuse and condensation in check because she stands up to him and he cowers down. It's what makes the show funny. There needs to be that balance. The longer Penny and Sheldon don't hang out, the longer this show will continue its nose dive towards "cancelled" mountain.
Sue Ann Rank: Regular Character
December 9th, 2011 6:40 AM
I agree with everyone else, and the reviewer. I seriously considered turning the television off, about ten minutes into this episode. I was bullied at home and at school as a child, and there is nothing funny about it, even in retrospect, half a century later. Sheldon was not funny. None of it was funny. I was not even amused when Bernadette stole those boots.
I have the DVD's of the previous seasons, and re-listen to them when I am doing tedious computer data entry. Season two showed Sheldon at his worst; I cannot listen to the whole season in one fell swoop, because he was so obnoxious. They went equally far over the limit with his verbal abuse of Leonard tonight. It makes it less understandable why a guy like Leonard would put up with a roommate like Sheldon for all these years. Rent must be astronomical in Pasadena.
MissMontyH
December 9th, 2011 6:20 AM
I live in Europe and watching TBBT friday morning puts me in a good mood. It did the exact opposite this time.
Sheldon was at times more of a bully than Jimmy. I guess it was supposed to be funny, but how the writers just kept hitting on Leonard with Sheldon's remarks continuous zingers about Leonard's career made me cringe (I usually love them, when they come up once in a while). Like you said, it would have been a bit more funny had the guys told Sheldon how he could be a bully without meaning to, but they just let him trample on them, like L&S let Jimmy terrorize them at the end of the episode.
Sheldon used to be one of my favorite characters. Now there are more times where I'd like to punch him in the face so he would stop talking.
And I didn't find Penny that endearing. How she wasn't sincere at all in her apologies or trying to do something good... It would have been more fun her trying to make amends and miserably failing at it. Her experience with the guys should
nasne
December 9th, 2011 5:02 AM
honestly, I don't think you are over thinking the episode.. I felt the same way!!
Jim Garner Rank: Staff Member
December 9th, 2011 3:55 AM
I agree that this episode came across like it was a backup story. If they had ended the story with Leonard forcing Jimmy to leave using his intelligence. Ie threaten to ruin his credit or baffle him with science and make him think he was getting weak or poisoned (when really not) it would have had a better feel over-all to see you cand stop bullying.
I don't think your over thinking it at all either.
fortyseven Rank: Regular Character
December 9th, 2011 2:26 AM
Amy: Go away Sheldon is nibbling on my … 14. Yes!
Rank: Recurring Character
December 13th, 2011 11:04 PM
I'm also sick of Amy being gay for Penny. We get it, you think she's sexy. Either date her or stop!
It's too repetitive.
Rank: Recurring Character
December 13th, 2011 11:03 PM
Of course this show has gone down the shitter! Chuck Lorre decided to make it somewhat of a 2.5 Men and brought THE GIRLS IN! I have hated them on the show from the minute they stepped foot on the first episode as main characters. For guys who are depicted as so nerdy they can't get laid for cash, 3/4 have girlfriends/fiancees!
Howard and Raj are NEVER showcased, and I love them. I want a Sheldon, Leonard, Raj, Howard reunion! Without the girls. Remember when Raj, Howard, and Leonard were high in the woods? I MISS that.
Oh well. Chuck Lorre ruining probably my favorite show (or one of my biggest). Why am I not surprised?
At least Amy has some good moments. And perhaps the girls could be incorporated in a better way, or kicked off (she said hopefully??). And get Penny some help, god damnit.
December 12th, 2011 11:05 AM
@joyeful
I agree. The bullying thing was mismanged but it was one episode. Some people are going a little overboard with thier complaints. The continual mismangedment of the characters is what is destroying the show. Watching an episode from Seaon 1, 2 or 3 and then turning on Season 5 is like putting on a whole new show. I get that they tried to make it more appealing to a broader audience but they failed miserably. Besides, it was the number 1 show BEFORE they brought in Amy and Bernadette as full time cast members and turned Penny into drunked mess. If everyone was watching it before, then why the atempt to market it to a broader audience? The audience was already very broad. Raj and Howard no longer exist, Sheldon might as well just be a weirdo now who doesn't like anyone, and Amy and Bernadette forming this clique with Penny just isolates her from Sheldon. Penny and Sheldon - together - are the reason people watched this show. If this trend of turning TBBT into a bizare twist on
December 12th, 2011 10:54 AM
This episode sucked as all of them have this season. Ever since Amy came on the show its gone downhill. She has destroyed Sheldon's character and has now moved on to Penny's. I just wish we could have an episode with Penny and the 4 guys, like it used to be. Amy and Bernadette dont fit in with the show. The show is all about sex and relationships now. People used to watch it because (and this is the key word) it was UNIQUE. Not its no different than every other show: sex, relationships and drama. What happened to the nerdy and science stuff? Sheldon care more about his friends than winning the Nobel prize. His not caring made the show funny. Can we get back to basic here?
December 10th, 2011 11:22 PM
I agree with the reviewer to a point and a lot of the replies. I was bullied in school and it is not funny. It is not a comedic subject unless you are the bully instead of the victim. I highly doubt the majority of Big Bang's audience are bullies, probably most of us were the victims. Why would the writers think this is a good idea? I almost feel that they got their signing for 3 more seasons last year and they figured they didn't have to try as hard anymore. That's why it's gone downhill this season.
Rank: Regular Character
December 10th, 2011 4:21 PM
I hated this episode. Hated, hated, hated it. It wasn't funny. Not just because they mismanaged the whole bullying storyline, but because they continue to mismanage their characters. Sheldon used to be just socially inept - now he's just a mean A-hole. I agree with all the people who say that Sheldon is a verbal bully - of course he is!
I get that Penny probably didn't realize how mean she was being - a lot of bullies don't realize how hurtful their actions are, and this was a good way of showing it. But Penny stealing from poor people? That's never funny - whose idea was that?!
The fun in BBT used to be watching Penny (the one socially aware character) interact with the nerds with varying social aptitude. I don't know what's happening with this show.
December 10th, 2011 12:47 PM
Totally agree with the reviewer and... I never disliked Penny so much.
December 10th, 2011 12:22 PM
I used to like this programme. However, last episode didn’t make me smile not even once; it was truly with bad taste. Bulling is a serious matter... Come on! There are kids committing suicide in real life for this problem. Why not to make a difference making fun of bullies? Let’s use the media to help putting things straight... or neither producer nor writers have enough imagination? About Bernadette, in a former episode she bought a Rolex to her fiancé Howard... so I’m sure she can afford a pair of boots.
December 10th, 2011 6:31 AM
Don't really agree with Sheldon being a bully though. I think it's a part of his social ineptness. Whereas implicitly condoning Jimmy's outright and mean spirited bullying (in a way) - that was just too much and way too depressing. It was horrible to watch.
December 10th, 2011 6:28 AM
I have to agree with the reviewer. This was one extremely depressing episode.
Rank: Regular Character
December 10th, 2011 12:32 AM
Well, I think Chuck Lorre is taking both his prime time shows in bad directions. Two and a Half Men stinks, of all the replacements he could have chosen, he had to pick Aston Kutcher? Not only that but the writing has seriously gone down hill. The same goes for Big Bang Theory. The show feels tired. Sheldon's antics are becoming less and less amusing, Penny basically has no point anymore (which I think is a waste of talent in regards to Kaley Cocoa), Leonard is boring, and there's less nerdiness each week. I think this show has the potential to really be good again, but pandering to cheap humor is demeaning to it's audience. And I've already mentioned my issues with this week's episode, so I wont go there again.
December 9th, 2011 9:17 PM
I'd like to know what the actress who plays Penny did to make the writers and/or producers dislike her so. Penny used to be so much fun and likable, you were always pulling for her to make her own success. Now, they could write her out and it would almost be a relief. Note to the writers: Penny as a drunk, bully, or thief - Not Funny! Give us back our strong willed and good natured Penny!
Rank: Regular Character
December 9th, 2011 7:57 PM
*kids are committing suicide over bullying, not Big Bang. Just to clarify
Rank: Regular Character
December 9th, 2011 7:56 PM
Please forgive my numerous typos, I was in a hurry when I wrote it
Rank: Regular Character
December 9th, 2011 7:54 PM
Unknown, good for you for owning up. That can't be easy either and now you can teach your children to be empathic as well.
I 100% agree with the reviewer. Yes, its supposed to be comedy but it doesn't making it any less depressing to watch. Maybe Leonard doesn't ever get Jimmy to actually change but the least they could do was call Sheldon out for his verbal abuse. You can see the characters are sick of it and now would have been a good opportunity to address it. I re-watched the first season and Sheldon wasn't a warm, fluffy bunny but he always had his friend's back at least. He was less vicious and more condescending, now he's just an asshole. I don't know why the guys put up with him other than they feel like they have no choice.
Penny grated on my nerves this time around. Even her last minute attack of guilt didn't do anything for me. She basically spent the entire episode in self pity because she felt bad for hurting people. You can't apologize for making fun of someone's s
Rank: Guest Star
December 9th, 2011 6:16 PM
I Liked the episode, I was a little bully at school and I am a pusher as a person sometimes. It make me feel like people really change for the past to the present and how I was a bully and not even knew about it (the penny storyline) I think they are allot of people that not even knew they ware bully's neater.
December 9th, 2011 3:52 PM
I think the bullying stuff is being a little over analyzed here. It is a comedy and needs to be taken with a grain of salt. That being said it wasn't very funny. Continuing the trend of this season, the only funny part was the opening act. Finally Penny and Sheldon spoke to one another. I swear its like there are two shows now: the guys and the girls. Get Penny and Sheldon in the same room more often! She is the only one who can keep his verbal abuse and condensation in check because she stands up to him and he cowers down. It's what makes the show funny. There needs to be that balance. The longer Penny and Sheldon don't hang out, the longer this show will continue its nose dive towards "cancelled" mountain.
Rank: Regular Character
December 9th, 2011 6:40 AM
I agree with everyone else, and the reviewer. I seriously considered turning the television off, about ten minutes into this episode. I was bullied at home and at school as a child, and there is nothing funny about it, even in retrospect, half a century later. Sheldon was not funny. None of it was funny. I was not even amused when Bernadette stole those boots.
I have the DVD's of the previous seasons, and re-listen to them when I am doing tedious computer data entry. Season two showed Sheldon at his worst; I cannot listen to the whole season in one fell swoop, because he was so obnoxious. They went equally far over the limit with his verbal abuse of Leonard tonight. It makes it less understandable why a guy like Leonard would put up with a roommate like Sheldon for all these years. Rent must be astronomical in Pasadena.
December 9th, 2011 6:20 AM
I live in Europe and watching TBBT friday morning puts me in a good mood. It did the exact opposite this time.
Sheldon was at times more of a bully than Jimmy. I guess it was supposed to be funny, but how the writers just kept hitting on Leonard with Sheldon's remarks continuous zingers about Leonard's career made me cringe (I usually love them, when they come up once in a while). Like you said, it would have been a bit more funny had the guys told Sheldon how he could be a bully without meaning to, but they just let him trample on them, like L&S let Jimmy terrorize them at the end of the episode.
Sheldon used to be one of my favorite characters. Now there are more times where I'd like to punch him in the face so he would stop talking.
And I didn't find Penny that endearing. How she wasn't sincere at all in her apologies or trying to do something good... It would have been more fun her trying to make amends and miserably failing at it. Her experience with the guys should
December 9th, 2011 5:02 AM
honestly, I don't think you are over thinking the episode.. I felt the same way!!
Rank: Staff Member
December 9th, 2011 3:55 AM
I agree that this episode came across like it was a backup story. If they had ended the story with Leonard forcing Jimmy to leave using his intelligence. Ie threaten to ruin his credit or baffle him with science and make him think he was getting weak or poisoned (when really not) it would have had a better feel over-all to see you cand stop bullying.
I don't think your over thinking it at all either.
Rank: Regular Character
December 9th, 2011 2:26 AM
I agree with the review. Amy was funny.