I just think that this show is for fun and sometimes to think about some point that they give us. Other than that...it's not worthy to spend so much time and lines in reviewing Glee.
Just my opinion!
Jennifer
January 19th, 2012 2:36 PM
You are 100% right about everything. Every week I ask myself why I'm still watching this show. *smh*
This review was again spot on. Thanks for not whitewashing anything.
Someone here compared "lost" and "glee" regarding their large cast and the problem of story telling that comes with it. I'm still laughing. I mean "lost" and "glee"... worlds apart in quality, story telling and character development. I hope this was a joke. "lost" is the perfect example for evolving story lines and interesting characters despite its large cast.
I also don't get the idea that just because in "glee" the characters sing sometimes it is not allowed to judge it like a tv show. last time I checked it is a show on tv. I actually like "glee", I really do. I'm expressing my hope that it will get better. please:)
And it was kinda scary and weird when Will said to Finn that he learned from him to be a good man, why oh why? And please, don't let say Rachel yes;)
I'm not giving up just yet on "glee".
puci
January 19th, 2012 9:38 AM
"WTH??" said it all.
I used to like this show for his characters his irony and blabla: that's why an episode like this one feels so frustrating! It really seems like the storylines are randomly built up between and for the songs, the music is not a way to express the characters's feelings but the other way around.
Glee recipe: take a look at the Pop charts, pick your choice and write an episode where you can make them fit somehow. Stuff the rest in between, don't forget to mix sugar with salt. Shake it and serve hot.
Why isn't anyone telling Finn he is becoming crazy and creepy?
brrr
Angel
January 19th, 2012 9:07 AM
¿What? this episode was great! Now I`m just thinking you’re just hating. The only thing I found annoying was the Sam part in the song in the beginning, he looked stiff. Loved the focus on Becky, and the idea of putting Helen as her inner voice, really touch me by the end, I hope they keep it going because I think Becky could be the biggest outcast in the school, and she really has a story to tell. As a recall they say they will split every season into two parts, that’s why they had new storylines in this part, and I like them. Yes the Fin proposal was stupid, but who cares, lets see where it takes us and enjoy people, enjoy, Gosh is a tv show!!
Caitlyn Rank: Regular Character
January 19th, 2012 4:53 AM
The reviewer said everything I was thinking. The show has been going downhill since season 2 and I honestly don't know how much longer I can wait for good storytelling to happen.
sunset
January 18th, 2012 8:54 PM
To review the shw for wht it is: The first grease number seemed a little 2 forced, was too dated and inappropriate of a song choice. It was nice to hear emma sing and she was sweet. The choreography 4 moves like jagger ws amazing and it was nice to see artie gt a solo. Rachel's version of 'without you' ws breath taking. Her range isa incredible and only keeps getting better. One of her best vocals and solo's so far. I felt the last song ws perfect, as it followd on frm the othr songs theme's something meaningful lyrically, like the girls song, but also upbeat to incorporate the moves like jagger angle. (I think the reason why artie also jumped into the pool, with his wheelchair, was again, as glee wanted to highlight the idea of not discriminating anyone and treating every1 equally, just like with becky, again adding in their anti discrimination/ helping kids to feel better abt who they are angle.
I think the vocals and choreography, in general, wre some of the best this season.
sunset
January 18th, 2012 8:48 PM
Review the show based on what it is, a musical, secretly sneaking in info-mercials on anti bullying by getting you to root for those the underdogs :LGBT's, uncool kids, poor kids, the disabled (I even think that's why mercedes gt the lead in the sam/merc relationship instead of quinn, lyk it logically seemed 2 b heading 2 previously, so the show cld give some1 who's nt a typical size 2 a lead heroine role, to break the prejudices associated with tht).
The reason will made finn his best man, is cause the show is 90% about music and the kids. If he hadn't, how would they have future wedding associated songs (eg. guys bachelor night sequence etc.) it's a high school song and dance focused show... duh! It's NOT a actors show, it is a singers and dancers performance show, with a few postive info-mercials on not treating ppl diffrntly.
sunset
January 18th, 2012 8:46 PM
I agree tht the storylines in glee are rlly random and patchy,thy alwys have been, but tht's not the point of this show. It's a musical, you watch it to enjoy the song and dance,& the story lines are jst there 2 lead you from one song 2 the next. If you want to watch a show for it storyline and character development, u watch a show which is designed 4 tht, like 'one tree hill' or 'greys anatomy'. Glee's purpose is 1) to make u feel gud and provide you with gr8 music and 2)to try to send messages of anti bullying by highlighting differences like LGBT, diseases, disabilities, poverty, race/ culture, weight etc. 3)all abt the kids. that's it. That's it's theme.
Reviewing the show on any othr bases is entirely pointless. The review will always be negative. It's like reviewing an Olympic runner on their golfing skills?!
lemonaki myrwdato
January 18th, 2012 7:12 PM
cry...and then cry..and again cry...i hope next episode be more cheerful :)
G
January 18th, 2012 6:43 PM
S1 was amazing...downhill ever since. :( Too agenda driven for my taste. So now I just sit back and let the music wash over me...and the occasional gem from Sue and Beiste. I'm just glad that it felt like RM took a night off from his soap box.
jen
January 18th, 2012 5:14 PM
This review said everything I was thinking! Glad I wasn't the only one who thought this was a messy episode. It was way to jumpy and a lot of the stories could've definitely been separate episodes. Glee was amazing the first season, but now it's becoming painful to watch! The show has gotten weird and there are too many characters! If each character was given their own episode, Glee could have enough material for like 2 more seasons! Think about it.
lindsey
January 18th, 2012 4:33 PM
The problem with Glee is that it has such a huge cast, and has added so many more cast members this season, so the writers are stuck between focusing on a few characters and getting bashed for not including everyone, and focusing on most of the characters and getting bashed for not getting in depth for any one plot.
Personally I prefer the former because it provides more actual plot development, and I would love to see these characters as actual people and not just part of a whole. The writers do need to calm down and give time for these plots to progress.
Also, even though we all love Glee because of the songs, I feel like the songs are planned first and then the plot is planned around it, while it should be the other way around. As much as I loved "Summer Lovin'" it felt completely out of place and they could have saved it for a more opportune moment.
Sarah
January 18th, 2012 4:15 PM
I was really disappointed by this episode. It was stupidly crammed and I thought it was really really weird that FInn is going to be his best man like does Will not have any friends what so ever?
This review was completely right. Glee has moved way too far from the 1st season format of story lines!
Blu Rank: Regular Character
January 18th, 2012 4:03 PM
I like a critical,ballsy, and honest review whether I agree with it or not as lng as its mostly objective. One of my favorite quotes is 'The problem with most of us is we'd rather be ruined by praise than saved by criticism.'-Norman Peale.
The episode wasnt great and there was too much crammed in for words.Glee operates on either spending too much time on a storyline (anything involving my dear Kurt) or not spending nearly enough on a storyline (anything involving the backseat characters).Wemma did move fast because we havent really seen it much this season we've just been told about it. Id love a thorough samcedes story they somehow manged to take a step forward with an unorthodox couple but 2 steps back by not having the balls to actually show them as a couple.They have decent ideas but crappy execution.I liked having it back on and enjoyed many parts of the episode but it was too much going on at once.
phil
January 18th, 2012 3:12 PM
The music was great.
The plots were coherent.
I predicted that Becky would hook up with Artie and Will and Emma would get engaged.
I wrote that I wanted Sam to compete with Shane all season for Mercedes. I hope it takes all season and Sam wins.
I'm glad Blaine didn't say a word, but neither did Puck, Quinn and Britney. Rory got one line in a song. Mike had one line. Tina got two lines and a stanza.
Rachel sang three times. That balances her non-singing episodes but was a bit of overkill.
When does Burt go to Congress? They started their session yesterday and he should have been sworn in. The one spinoff I'd follow would be Burt in Washington. Of course a new campaign will start for his seat presently, and since Ohio loses a congressman this year he may have to challenge an incumbent. Let's get a debate between him and the real congressman from that district by summer.
Larry
January 18th, 2012 3:04 PM
You're right. It isn't fun reading on a critic who does nothing but bash on the show. I don't care if you didn't like it. I enjoyed the episode. I need to stop reading all the haters because of all the negativity brings me down from a high in watching the episode.
Jilly
January 18th, 2012 2:54 PM
Well, I appreciate a subjective review on any TV show.
In fact, I find it preferable to "reviews" whose gist are: "OMG! I f-ing LUVED this epi! Best show EVAR! YAY!"
Miranda Wicker Rank: Staff Member
January 18th, 2012 2:38 PM
I'm so, so conflicted about this episode, and this season at large. I love this show and I'm faithful to it, but this is far from the show it was in the first season.
I agree that far too many story lines were crammed into last night's episode. BUT--had the writing been tweaked slightly, all of it except Becky/Sue could've worked.
For instance:
They could've balanced the heaviness of Finn's story with Will's proposal to Emma. Her parents are assholes and he knew that so why care what they think? Oh, right, to give Wemma a poignant moment. It could've been written so that he proposed and she had second thoughts about burdening him with her disorder. Finn's proposal even could've stayed.
Having Sam join the swim team for a letter jacket to get Mercedes back and having her think of him when she sang would've been enough build up to them getting together in an episode or two.
Lynara
January 18th, 2012 2:35 PM
What do I think? I think they need a new reviewer...maybe someone who actually enjoys the show for what it is. If you couldn't see where Will and Emma's relationship was heading, I have to assume you don't really watch the show but then how would you review it? Seriously, if you hate the show, resign and let someone who likes it write the weekly reviews.
jany
January 18th, 2012 2:27 PM
the only thing I thoiught was too brushed over was that the coach got married. NOt cool. It was like I had missed an episode.
Keith Vlasak Rank: Recurring Character
January 18th, 2012 12:43 PM
Glee is a musical, but it is not a variety show (Dean Martin Show, Judy Garland Show, Smothers Brothers Show) -- and musicals have plots. Besides, the songs are not what makes Glee special, the story is -- OR, Ryan Murphy is rich and guaranteed he'll be producing shows that will get one of the networks to air them because of the original 13 episodes of Glee, which were plotted like a 13 episode mini-series. To say now that the show is something else than what made it a hit is really giving Murphy a pass. And why did he even bother hiring writers? There's a saying that goes something like, "Dance with who brung yuh," or something.
Chris O'Hara Rank: Staff Member
January 18th, 2012 12:07 PM
While I did love the pool side proposal highlighted by Artie rolling into the pool, it did seem like there was an awful lot crammed into this episode. It felt more like 2hrs. The development of Becky is a valid choice and I liked the voiceover scenes, but it did her character disservice to have her story sandwiched in between all the other scenarios. Sue caringly consoling Becky was one of her best scenes of the year. You had to like seeing “Coach” let her guard down like that and show some vulnerability. Getting back to the proposal,I thought Will's speech was very touching as was Emma's reaction and answer.(BTW when did we find out Emma's parents hated him? Maybe I missed that episode.) Each storyline could have and probably should have been its own episode. Trying to fit them all into 1 was almost too much to process. Gleeks have been jonesing for a new episode but like a fiending addict who finally got his hands on his drug of choice, I felt like I almost OD'd.
Brittany: Let me break it down. No one in this musty choir room compares to my megawatt star power. Blaine, you're shorter than a lawn gnome. Joe, you look l...
January 20th, 2012 1:29 AM
I just think that this show is for fun and sometimes to think about some point that they give us. Other than that...it's not worthy to spend so much time and lines in reviewing Glee.
Just my opinion!
January 19th, 2012 2:36 PM
You are 100% right about everything. Every week I ask myself why I'm still watching this show. *smh*
Rank: Extra
January 19th, 2012 11:14 AM
This review was again spot on. Thanks for not whitewashing anything.
Someone here compared "lost" and "glee" regarding their large cast and the problem of story telling that comes with it. I'm still laughing. I mean "lost" and "glee"... worlds apart in quality, story telling and character development. I hope this was a joke. "lost" is the perfect example for evolving story lines and interesting characters despite its large cast.
I also don't get the idea that just because in "glee" the characters sing sometimes it is not allowed to judge it like a tv show. last time I checked it is a show on tv. I actually like "glee", I really do. I'm expressing my hope that it will get better. please:)
And it was kinda scary and weird when Will said to Finn that he learned from him to be a good man, why oh why? And please, don't let say Rachel yes;)
I'm not giving up just yet on "glee".
January 19th, 2012 9:38 AM
"WTH??" said it all.
I used to like this show for his characters his irony and blabla: that's why an episode like this one feels so frustrating! It really seems like the storylines are randomly built up between and for the songs, the music is not a way to express the characters's feelings but the other way around.
Glee recipe: take a look at the Pop charts, pick your choice and write an episode where you can make them fit somehow. Stuff the rest in between, don't forget to mix sugar with salt. Shake it and serve hot.
Why isn't anyone telling Finn he is becoming crazy and creepy?
brrr
January 19th, 2012 9:07 AM
¿What? this episode was great! Now I`m just thinking you’re just hating. The only thing I found annoying was the Sam part in the song in the beginning, he looked stiff. Loved the focus on Becky, and the idea of putting Helen as her inner voice, really touch me by the end, I hope they keep it going because I think Becky could be the biggest outcast in the school, and she really has a story to tell. As a recall they say they will split every season into two parts, that’s why they had new storylines in this part, and I like them. Yes the Fin proposal was stupid, but who cares, lets see where it takes us and enjoy people, enjoy, Gosh is a tv show!!
Rank: Regular Character
January 19th, 2012 4:53 AM
The reviewer said everything I was thinking. The show has been going downhill since season 2 and I honestly don't know how much longer I can wait for good storytelling to happen.
January 18th, 2012 8:54 PM
To review the shw for wht it is: The first grease number seemed a little 2 forced, was too dated and inappropriate of a song choice. It was nice to hear emma sing and she was sweet. The choreography 4 moves like jagger ws amazing and it was nice to see artie gt a solo. Rachel's version of 'without you' ws breath taking. Her range isa incredible and only keeps getting better. One of her best vocals and solo's so far. I felt the last song ws perfect, as it followd on frm the othr songs theme's something meaningful lyrically, like the girls song, but also upbeat to incorporate the moves like jagger angle. (I think the reason why artie also jumped into the pool, with his wheelchair, was again, as glee wanted to highlight the idea of not discriminating anyone and treating every1 equally, just like with becky, again adding in their anti discrimination/ helping kids to feel better abt who they are angle.
I think the vocals and choreography, in general, wre some of the best this season.
January 18th, 2012 8:48 PM
Review the show based on what it is, a musical, secretly sneaking in info-mercials on anti bullying by getting you to root for those the underdogs :LGBT's, uncool kids, poor kids, the disabled (I even think that's why mercedes gt the lead in the sam/merc relationship instead of quinn, lyk it logically seemed 2 b heading 2 previously, so the show cld give some1 who's nt a typical size 2 a lead heroine role, to break the prejudices associated with tht).
The reason will made finn his best man, is cause the show is 90% about music and the kids. If he hadn't, how would they have future wedding associated songs (eg. guys bachelor night sequence etc.) it's a high school song and dance focused show... duh! It's NOT a actors show, it is a singers and dancers performance show, with a few postive info-mercials on not treating ppl diffrntly.
January 18th, 2012 8:46 PM
I agree tht the storylines in glee are rlly random and patchy,thy alwys have been, but tht's not the point of this show. It's a musical, you watch it to enjoy the song and dance,& the story lines are jst there 2 lead you from one song 2 the next. If you want to watch a show for it storyline and character development, u watch a show which is designed 4 tht, like 'one tree hill' or 'greys anatomy'. Glee's purpose is 1) to make u feel gud and provide you with gr8 music and 2)to try to send messages of anti bullying by highlighting differences like LGBT, diseases, disabilities, poverty, race/ culture, weight etc. 3)all abt the kids. that's it. That's it's theme.
Reviewing the show on any othr bases is entirely pointless. The review will always be negative. It's like reviewing an Olympic runner on their golfing skills?!
January 18th, 2012 7:12 PM
cry...and then cry..and again cry...i hope next episode be more cheerful :)
January 18th, 2012 6:43 PM
S1 was amazing...downhill ever since. :( Too agenda driven for my taste. So now I just sit back and let the music wash over me...and the occasional gem from Sue and Beiste. I'm just glad that it felt like RM took a night off from his soap box.
January 18th, 2012 5:14 PM
This review said everything I was thinking! Glad I wasn't the only one who thought this was a messy episode. It was way to jumpy and a lot of the stories could've definitely been separate episodes. Glee was amazing the first season, but now it's becoming painful to watch! The show has gotten weird and there are too many characters! If each character was given their own episode, Glee could have enough material for like 2 more seasons! Think about it.
January 18th, 2012 4:33 PM
The problem with Glee is that it has such a huge cast, and has added so many more cast members this season, so the writers are stuck between focusing on a few characters and getting bashed for not including everyone, and focusing on most of the characters and getting bashed for not getting in depth for any one plot.
Personally I prefer the former because it provides more actual plot development, and I would love to see these characters as actual people and not just part of a whole. The writers do need to calm down and give time for these plots to progress.
Also, even though we all love Glee because of the songs, I feel like the songs are planned first and then the plot is planned around it, while it should be the other way around. As much as I loved "Summer Lovin'" it felt completely out of place and they could have saved it for a more opportune moment.
January 18th, 2012 4:15 PM
I was really disappointed by this episode. It was stupidly crammed and I thought it was really really weird that FInn is going to be his best man like does Will not have any friends what so ever?
This review was completely right. Glee has moved way too far from the 1st season format of story lines!
Rank: Regular Character
January 18th, 2012 4:03 PM
I like a critical,ballsy, and honest review whether I agree with it or not as lng as its mostly objective. One of my favorite quotes is 'The problem with most of us is we'd rather be ruined by praise than saved by criticism.'-Norman Peale.
The episode wasnt great and there was too much crammed in for words.Glee operates on either spending too much time on a storyline (anything involving my dear Kurt) or not spending nearly enough on a storyline (anything involving the backseat characters).Wemma did move fast because we havent really seen it much this season we've just been told about it. Id love a thorough samcedes story they somehow manged to take a step forward with an unorthodox couple but 2 steps back by not having the balls to actually show them as a couple.They have decent ideas but crappy execution.I liked having it back on and enjoyed many parts of the episode but it was too much going on at once.
January 18th, 2012 3:12 PM
The music was great.
The plots were coherent.
I predicted that Becky would hook up with Artie and Will and Emma would get engaged.
I wrote that I wanted Sam to compete with Shane all season for Mercedes. I hope it takes all season and Sam wins.
I'm glad Blaine didn't say a word, but neither did Puck, Quinn and Britney. Rory got one line in a song. Mike had one line. Tina got two lines and a stanza.
Rachel sang three times. That balances her non-singing episodes but was a bit of overkill.
When does Burt go to Congress? They started their session yesterday and he should have been sworn in. The one spinoff I'd follow would be Burt in Washington. Of course a new campaign will start for his seat presently, and since Ohio loses a congressman this year he may have to challenge an incumbent. Let's get a debate between him and the real congressman from that district by summer.
January 18th, 2012 3:04 PM
You're right. It isn't fun reading on a critic who does nothing but bash on the show. I don't care if you didn't like it. I enjoyed the episode. I need to stop reading all the haters because of all the negativity brings me down from a high in watching the episode.
January 18th, 2012 2:54 PM
Well, I appreciate a subjective review on any TV show.
In fact, I find it preferable to "reviews" whose gist are: "OMG! I f-ing LUVED this epi! Best show EVAR! YAY!"
Rank: Staff Member
January 18th, 2012 2:38 PM
I'm so, so conflicted about this episode, and this season at large. I love this show and I'm faithful to it, but this is far from the show it was in the first season.
I agree that far too many story lines were crammed into last night's episode. BUT--had the writing been tweaked slightly, all of it except Becky/Sue could've worked.
For instance:
They could've balanced the heaviness of Finn's story with Will's proposal to Emma. Her parents are assholes and he knew that so why care what they think? Oh, right, to give Wemma a poignant moment. It could've been written so that he proposed and she had second thoughts about burdening him with her disorder. Finn's proposal even could've stayed.
Having Sam join the swim team for a letter jacket to get Mercedes back and having her think of him when she sang would've been enough build up to them getting together in an episode or two.
January 18th, 2012 2:35 PM
What do I think? I think they need a new reviewer...maybe someone who actually enjoys the show for what it is. If you couldn't see where Will and Emma's relationship was heading, I have to assume you don't really watch the show but then how would you review it? Seriously, if you hate the show, resign and let someone who likes it write the weekly reviews.
January 18th, 2012 2:27 PM
the only thing I thoiught was too brushed over was that the coach got married. NOt cool. It was like I had missed an episode.
Rank: Recurring Character
January 18th, 2012 12:43 PM
Glee is a musical, but it is not a variety show (Dean Martin Show, Judy Garland Show, Smothers Brothers Show) -- and musicals have plots. Besides, the songs are not what makes Glee special, the story is -- OR, Ryan Murphy is rich and guaranteed he'll be producing shows that will get one of the networks to air them because of the original 13 episodes of Glee, which were plotted like a 13 episode mini-series. To say now that the show is something else than what made it a hit is really giving Murphy a pass. And why did he even bother hiring writers? There's a saying that goes something like, "Dance with who brung yuh," or something.
Rank: Staff Member
January 18th, 2012 12:07 PM
While I did love the pool side proposal highlighted by Artie rolling into the pool, it did seem like there was an awful lot crammed into this episode. It felt more like 2hrs. The development of Becky is a valid choice and I liked the voiceover scenes, but it did her character disservice to have her story sandwiched in between all the other scenarios. Sue caringly consoling Becky was one of her best scenes of the year. You had to like seeing “Coach” let her guard down like that and show some vulnerability. Getting back to the proposal,I thought Will's speech was very touching as was Emma's reaction and answer.(BTW when did we find out Emma's parents hated him? Maybe I missed that episode.) Each storyline could have and probably should have been its own episode. Trying to fit them all into 1 was almost too much to process. Gleeks have been jonesing for a new episode but like a fiending addict who finally got his hands on his drug of choice, I felt like I almost OD'd.
Rank: Extra
January 18th, 2012 11:39 AM
Screw the plot development or the lack thereof. WHY WAS BRITANNY NOT GIVEN ANY LINES?
January 18th, 2012 11:37 AM
Your review is perfect. You said everything that I'd like to say as a former Glee fan.