Gossip Girl Review: The End and the Beginning Comments (Page 6)
138 Comments
tiana
January 17th, 2012 12:17 AM
Re: Blair losing her baby. I know a lot of people commented they didn't spend a lot of time on Blair's reaction to losing the baby - but I initially thought that her not choosing Chuck was her punishing herself for losing her baby like that. If we go along with her thinking God wanted to give her a sign, involving the baby in it like this would at least make her rationale more understanding (ie the grief of loss, the guilt some people feel, as if it was their fault... etc.). They had the perfect "escape goat" for this whole contrived "Because I made a pact with God" storyline, but chose to only give the baby a few seconds of mention. Continued...
the way this season is going, i actually think blair will marry louis. except for the picture of her running away...but somehow i think they would make her marry him to be kind of unpredictable. it seems really obvious that she will run away. almost too obvious.
TrueStory:P Rank: Regular Character
January 16th, 2012 11:43 PM
I wonder why they bother with the "?" at the end of the title of the episode. It was like watching a bad version of "The End of the Affair" and though the movie is a favourite of mine, Gossip Girl made that story look ridiculous and offensive. If it weren't for Ed and Leighton's incredible acting skills, the episode would be a disaster.
God, really? Are the writers running out of contrived ideas to keep Chuck and Blair apart that they had to get God involved? All this for the sake of drama and to satisfy their desire to throw a royal wedding and do whatever 'stop and explore' story lines. Enough is enough already!
At least Serena and Blair got some screentime because their friendship has been ignored for so long. The last Chuck and Blair was beautiful and tragic and proof that Ed and Leighton are this show's only saving grace. If the only thing I'm looking forward to is Nate teaming up with Gossip Girl then all I have to say is: "Gossip Girl writers, pull yourself together."
GG123
January 16th, 2012 11:42 PM
Wow. God is the only thing keeping Blair and Chuck apart. This has gone past ridiculous. All I hope is that we CB fans will get a truly fulfilling and epic scene or scenes if and when they finally get together. Ed and Leighton's last scene was amazing. Their chemistry is still as strong as ever. They really are able to take the crap handed to them in the script and make something great with their scenes together.
I thought Serena's reaction when Blair found out she lost her baby was definitely lacking. Blair's initial reaction, which was great, seemed short-lived. I get why she asked for Chuck - she wanted his comfort but presently, she should still be mourning her baby too.
I think the real Charlie is more attractive than the fake Charlie - I wish she and Dan could get together, while Nate and Serena get together. THey are working together and they both want to be good people at heart. They are similar just like Chuck and Blair are similar.
marc
January 16th, 2012 11:29 PM
It was not a rip off of "The End of the Affair" it was an Homage (the H is silent). Hardly a rip off when you actually name it the same and even license original music from the film (the new years scene ender). You can dislike it but rip off it is not, there was nothing hidden about it. The show made a creative choice to a very effectively made film about torn relationships.
CC
January 16th, 2012 11:17 PM
Also, Blair needs to see a psychiatrist, NOT a priest. The God pact thing is by far the worst, most ludicrous Chair roadblock to date. A miscarriage is a terrible thing to experience- losing the baby could've been a natural impetus for keeping Chair apart. The writers aren't ready to really put them together but now they have them in this weird quasi state that's satisfying no one.
Didn't Chivy tell Rufus the truth in prior ep. or did I imagine that? I'm confuzzled.
Kimmie Rank: Recurring Character
January 16th, 2012 11:13 PM
One of the things that made this episode not as good was the time jump. Obviously it needed to happen because it would make sense if the time jump happens in next episode. Its just that 5x10 ended with do much drama from the accident that to come back and to only see little flashbacks from the aftermath was a let down. Some of the excitement of this episode was taken away because this episode to me failed to carry on the dramas of 5x10. And I wished Jack and Diana made an appearance, because I wanted to know how Chuck got a transplant.
Overall it was ok, but it kind of ended just like how it began which was showing Chair is not getting together anytime soon. I have not lost hope on them of course. Chair all the way.
Kimmie Rank: Recurring Character
January 16th, 2012 11:13 PM
A few storylines I wished didn't get carried over to 2012 were:
-Dan's book
-Rufrus and Lily only talking to each other
-Blair's hair since the beginning of season 5
-Dan's muppet hair
-Serena's straight out of bed/sex hair hair
-Louis always pouting his lips when he is angry.
Anyway, we can definitely say that the best scene of the night was the last Chair scene. Ed and Leighton just work so well together that you will just know you will get teary before they even speak. There were just so much emotion.
I love Vera Wang!! I have the full Lovestruck perfume set and it is amazing. I liked the parrallels between Blair and Vera and Leighton and Vera.
Kimmie Rank: Recurring Character
January 16th, 2012 11:12 PM
And I definitely did not miss Serena's facial expression after she kissed Dan at the party. LOL. Rejected! We know why Blair is avoiding Chuck. But I still don't understand why Blair felt the need to avoid Serena as well. At least include her in her secret. And I feel as though the secret was built up a lot during this episode that when Blair actually got around to explaining it to Serena, I was disappointed. I was like...that's it? One coincidental moment happened when Blair was praying made Blair decide to let Chuck go? Honestly the secret was more ridiculous than it was boring.
By the end of the episode, I looked back and was confused at the beginning. Are the writers seriously that desperate to drag Dair on, that they forced her to go see him in the middle of the night, while it was raining outside? I still don't understand why Dan was the only one she did told.
And where are her parents; Eleanor and her 3 fathers???? WHERE WAS DOROTA????
Kimmie Rank: Recurring Character
January 16th, 2012 11:11 PM
Not the best episode we have seen after coming back from such a long break.
First off, Lily hired Andrew to look for Charlie, only to mistaken her with the REAL one who is currently in NEW YORK. I don't understand why Carroll is trying so hard to hide her daughter from the rest of her family especially after putting up this big facade with Ivy only to allow her to work? in New York. Rufrus can't possibly have forgotten what Ivy/Charlie told him at the hospital about not really being Charlie.
CC
January 16th, 2012 11:00 PM
GG is so bad it's good. My roommate and I were howling w/laughter. Between the pact w/God, a fake relationship, real Charlie & Louis still being on the show, this ep. was non-sensical and convoluted. I like how Blair cried over losing her baby for 12 secs. then was like "CHUCK!?!". ROFLMAO! I'm so Blair'd out. Every 3rd word spoken was 'Blair'. Yet they didn't explore her loss. Does she have amnesia? Does Rufus? Why can't I? The scene at the party where everyone was looking at the one they want was hilarious. Love pentagon!
gossipcrazy Rank: Extra
January 16th, 2012 10:49 PM
What a let down. Anyone thats seen the end of the affair the movie (1999) knows that this episode was a total rip-off of that story, right down to the orchestration of the scenes.
Seriously-watch the movie. The opening Chuck/Louis scene in the rain, the Chuck/Blair/Louis scene in the foyer, the Chuck coming back to life scene, even the music! All copies of The End of the Affair.
I've lost all faith. The writers can't even come up with original stories. :(
AmyGirl Rank: Recurring Character
January 16th, 2012 10:48 PM
Also it says something that Blair cared more about Chuck than her own baby. Shows she really doesn't possess many maternal instincts, which is fine, it's just good then they made her have a miscarriage.
AmyGirl Rank: Recurring Character
January 16th, 2012 10:45 PM
Actually scratch part of what I said. Blair should go totally dark and insane, and it would take HER realizing what she's doing isn't her and will move on from that. Without a guy. And when she recovers, she can start again with Chuck, or Dan, or whoever.
I honestly don't know if Blair should keep her promise. It's the noble thing to do, but it's also extremely stupid. Depends on your religious values, if you have any.
AmyGirl Rank: Recurring Character
January 16th, 2012 10:43 PM
So the thing stopping Chair from being together is God? If B truly believed in a God, then she would know He doesn't want ppl to be UNHAPPY. Stupid. I was hoping for Blair to rebel on life. I mean she just had a MISCARRIAGE and is now marrying a man she doesn't love. I was hoping she was cheating with some random drugdealer, and Chuck could save her before it's too late, like S2. And Louis would ditch her;only her friends would still be there for her. THAT would be entertaining,not Blair believing in some improbable order of events! This episode sparks up MANY religious debates. Some may argue that a promise to God isn't one to be made lightly, and Blair should make good of it, while others might say "God doesn't even exist, some invisible myth is stopping you from having what you want? BS". Either way, it doesn't fit Blair's character. Blair has never believed in God, and for her to have this kind of devotion and utter belief just isn't HER. Another stupid obstacle stopping Chair.
anonymous
January 16th, 2012 10:39 PM
WOW Blair got over that baby quick! She goes to church everyday to mourn over Chuck but not her baby? I guess she doesnt care about it since its Louis'
QueenB
January 16th, 2012 10:33 PM
Wow, what a snooze-fest! I really thought the whole things was pretty silly, predictable and boring. I Chuck and Blair scene at the end was sort of touching, but I've seen this scene one too many times. Their back and forth is getting a little tiresome. As for Dan, I'm not really seeing any kind of connection. Obviously, she loves Chuck, if he can't see that he is an idiot. And I would much rather Serena and Nate start dating then have her start pinning for Dan after this fake romance. Come on writers we give us something better.
And wow, Rufus is either the dumbest guy on earth or just didn't want to tell Lily the truth. Come on!
kevin
January 16th, 2012 10:29 PM
@Chris
blair will get married but i read that chuck won't stop trying to get blair and they said that Blair will find herself rethinking her strong stance against the idea of their being together...
MSC
January 16th, 2012 10:29 PM
The obstacles are stupid. Just put Chuck and Blair together for God's sake.
Fran
January 16th, 2012 10:29 PM
Awful episode. God is the newest Chair obstacle. I mean really? How lazy is that. The ggwriters are just so so bad. Loved everything Nate. Serena is still being awesome. Dan is still not being awesome. Chuck made me feel horrible for him as per usual and Leighton is the prettiest crier.
sixonfanatic Rank: Extra
January 16th, 2012 10:26 PM
Serena should get off of Lonely Boy's depressed arse and stop trying to re-write history. Let's face it, Derena has chemistry no more. And as for Blair, she really needs to make up her mind. Although the idea of a Dair relationship has been pushed back in so many ways, I still have hope. We also know that Chuck might go back to the dark side, pushing Blair farther away than what he imagined.
Chris
January 16th, 2012 10:25 PM
I just hate this obstacle. I love Chuck and Blair but I really think this was contrived and sloppy. As it is, Ed and Leighton save their material. Their scenes were heartwrenching. I just wish Blair would accept that its not the universe, God, or fate and follow her heart.
Dan and Blair are also so contrived it isn't even funny, but I am liking DS again. Louis' presence is forever annoying. Basically this is falling flat and Im losing patience. I just want Chuck and Blair to work through this obstacle and I hope its their last.
me
January 16th, 2012 10:19 PM
Chair together, Chair apart, Chair together, Chair apart ... man GG is so darn predictable with this line...please can we have some realism and see a Dair ending?
kevin
January 16th, 2012 10:07 PM
i read a spoiler that blair will get rid of one person of her life (louis is not the person she get rid of)so it is either dan or chuck or nate
shaye
January 16th, 2012 10:06 PM
I thought the same thing why didnt Rufus and Lily put it together that "their" Charlie is really Ivy after all!
Serena: Congratulations, you've officially joined the dark side.
January 17th, 2012 12:17 AM
Re: Blair losing her baby. I know a lot of people commented they didn't spend a lot of time on Blair's reaction to losing the baby - but I initially thought that her not choosing Chuck was her punishing herself for losing her baby like that. If we go along with her thinking God wanted to give her a sign, involving the baby in it like this would at least make her rationale more understanding (ie the grief of loss, the guilt some people feel, as if it was their fault... etc.). They had the perfect "escape goat" for this whole contrived "Because I made a pact with God" storyline, but chose to only give the baby a few seconds of mention. Continued...
Rank: Extra
January 16th, 2012 11:58 PM
the way this season is going, i actually think blair will marry louis. except for the picture of her running away...but somehow i think they would make her marry him to be kind of unpredictable. it seems really obvious that she will run away. almost too obvious.
Rank: Regular Character
January 16th, 2012 11:43 PM
I wonder why they bother with the "?" at the end of the title of the episode. It was like watching a bad version of "The End of the Affair" and though the movie is a favourite of mine, Gossip Girl made that story look ridiculous and offensive. If it weren't for Ed and Leighton's incredible acting skills, the episode would be a disaster.
God, really? Are the writers running out of contrived ideas to keep Chuck and Blair apart that they had to get God involved? All this for the sake of drama and to satisfy their desire to throw a royal wedding and do whatever 'stop and explore' story lines. Enough is enough already!
At least Serena and Blair got some screentime because their friendship has been ignored for so long. The last Chuck and Blair was beautiful and tragic and proof that Ed and Leighton are this show's only saving grace. If the only thing I'm looking forward to is Nate teaming up with Gossip Girl then all I have to say is: "Gossip Girl writers, pull yourself together."
January 16th, 2012 11:42 PM
Wow. God is the only thing keeping Blair and Chuck apart. This has gone past ridiculous. All I hope is that we CB fans will get a truly fulfilling and epic scene or scenes if and when they finally get together. Ed and Leighton's last scene was amazing. Their chemistry is still as strong as ever. They really are able to take the crap handed to them in the script and make something great with their scenes together.
I thought Serena's reaction when Blair found out she lost her baby was definitely lacking. Blair's initial reaction, which was great, seemed short-lived. I get why she asked for Chuck - she wanted his comfort but presently, she should still be mourning her baby too.
I think the real Charlie is more attractive than the fake Charlie - I wish she and Dan could get together, while Nate and Serena get together. THey are working together and they both want to be good people at heart. They are similar just like Chuck and Blair are similar.
January 16th, 2012 11:29 PM
It was not a rip off of "The End of the Affair" it was an Homage (the H is silent). Hardly a rip off when you actually name it the same and even license original music from the film (the new years scene ender). You can dislike it but rip off it is not, there was nothing hidden about it. The show made a creative choice to a very effectively made film about torn relationships.
January 16th, 2012 11:17 PM
Also, Blair needs to see a psychiatrist, NOT a priest. The God pact thing is by far the worst, most ludicrous Chair roadblock to date. A miscarriage is a terrible thing to experience- losing the baby could've been a natural impetus for keeping Chair apart. The writers aren't ready to really put them together but now they have them in this weird quasi state that's satisfying no one.
Didn't Chivy tell Rufus the truth in prior ep. or did I imagine that? I'm confuzzled.
Rank: Recurring Character
January 16th, 2012 11:13 PM
One of the things that made this episode not as good was the time jump. Obviously it needed to happen because it would make sense if the time jump happens in next episode. Its just that 5x10 ended with do much drama from the accident that to come back and to only see little flashbacks from the aftermath was a let down. Some of the excitement of this episode was taken away because this episode to me failed to carry on the dramas of 5x10. And I wished Jack and Diana made an appearance, because I wanted to know how Chuck got a transplant.
Overall it was ok, but it kind of ended just like how it began which was showing Chair is not getting together anytime soon. I have not lost hope on them of course. Chair all the way.
Rank: Recurring Character
January 16th, 2012 11:13 PM
A few storylines I wished didn't get carried over to 2012 were:
-Dan's book
-Rufrus and Lily only talking to each other
-Blair's hair since the beginning of season 5
-Dan's muppet hair
-Serena's straight out of bed/sex hair hair
-Louis always pouting his lips when he is angry.
Anyway, we can definitely say that the best scene of the night was the last Chair scene. Ed and Leighton just work so well together that you will just know you will get teary before they even speak. There were just so much emotion.
I love Vera Wang!! I have the full Lovestruck perfume set and it is amazing. I liked the parrallels between Blair and Vera and Leighton and Vera.
Rank: Recurring Character
January 16th, 2012 11:12 PM
And I definitely did not miss Serena's facial expression after she kissed Dan at the party. LOL. Rejected! We know why Blair is avoiding Chuck. But I still don't understand why Blair felt the need to avoid Serena as well. At least include her in her secret. And I feel as though the secret was built up a lot during this episode that when Blair actually got around to explaining it to Serena, I was disappointed. I was like...that's it? One coincidental moment happened when Blair was praying made Blair decide to let Chuck go? Honestly the secret was more ridiculous than it was boring.
By the end of the episode, I looked back and was confused at the beginning. Are the writers seriously that desperate to drag Dair on, that they forced her to go see him in the middle of the night, while it was raining outside? I still don't understand why Dan was the only one she did told.
And where are her parents; Eleanor and her 3 fathers???? WHERE WAS DOROTA????
Rank: Recurring Character
January 16th, 2012 11:11 PM
Not the best episode we have seen after coming back from such a long break.
First off, Lily hired Andrew to look for Charlie, only to mistaken her with the REAL one who is currently in NEW YORK. I don't understand why Carroll is trying so hard to hide her daughter from the rest of her family especially after putting up this big facade with Ivy only to allow her to work? in New York. Rufrus can't possibly have forgotten what Ivy/Charlie told him at the hospital about not really being Charlie.
January 16th, 2012 11:00 PM
GG is so bad it's good. My roommate and I were howling w/laughter. Between the pact w/God, a fake relationship, real Charlie & Louis still being on the show, this ep. was non-sensical and convoluted. I like how Blair cried over losing her baby for 12 secs. then was like "CHUCK!?!". ROFLMAO! I'm so Blair'd out. Every 3rd word spoken was 'Blair'. Yet they didn't explore her loss. Does she have amnesia? Does Rufus? Why can't I? The scene at the party where everyone was looking at the one they want was hilarious. Love pentagon!
Rank: Extra
January 16th, 2012 10:49 PM
What a let down. Anyone thats seen the end of the affair the movie (1999) knows that this episode was a total rip-off of that story, right down to the orchestration of the scenes.
Seriously-watch the movie. The opening Chuck/Louis scene in the rain, the Chuck/Blair/Louis scene in the foyer, the Chuck coming back to life scene, even the music! All copies of The End of the Affair.
I've lost all faith. The writers can't even come up with original stories. :(
Rank: Recurring Character
January 16th, 2012 10:48 PM
Also it says something that Blair cared more about Chuck than her own baby. Shows she really doesn't possess many maternal instincts, which is fine, it's just good then they made her have a miscarriage.
Rank: Recurring Character
January 16th, 2012 10:45 PM
Actually scratch part of what I said. Blair should go totally dark and insane, and it would take HER realizing what she's doing isn't her and will move on from that. Without a guy. And when she recovers, she can start again with Chuck, or Dan, or whoever.
I honestly don't know if Blair should keep her promise. It's the noble thing to do, but it's also extremely stupid. Depends on your religious values, if you have any.
Rank: Recurring Character
January 16th, 2012 10:43 PM
So the thing stopping Chair from being together is God? If B truly believed in a God, then she would know He doesn't want ppl to be UNHAPPY. Stupid. I was hoping for Blair to rebel on life. I mean she just had a MISCARRIAGE and is now marrying a man she doesn't love. I was hoping she was cheating with some random drugdealer, and Chuck could save her before it's too late, like S2. And Louis would ditch her;only her friends would still be there for her. THAT would be entertaining,not Blair believing in some improbable order of events! This episode sparks up MANY religious debates. Some may argue that a promise to God isn't one to be made lightly, and Blair should make good of it, while others might say "God doesn't even exist, some invisible myth is stopping you from having what you want? BS". Either way, it doesn't fit Blair's character. Blair has never believed in God, and for her to have this kind of devotion and utter belief just isn't HER. Another stupid obstacle stopping Chair.
January 16th, 2012 10:39 PM
WOW Blair got over that baby quick! She goes to church everyday to mourn over Chuck but not her baby? I guess she doesnt care about it since its Louis'
January 16th, 2012 10:33 PM
Wow, what a snooze-fest! I really thought the whole things was pretty silly, predictable and boring. I Chuck and Blair scene at the end was sort of touching, but I've seen this scene one too many times. Their back and forth is getting a little tiresome. As for Dan, I'm not really seeing any kind of connection. Obviously, she loves Chuck, if he can't see that he is an idiot. And I would much rather Serena and Nate start dating then have her start pinning for Dan after this fake romance. Come on writers we give us something better.
And wow, Rufus is either the dumbest guy on earth or just didn't want to tell Lily the truth. Come on!
January 16th, 2012 10:29 PM
@Chris
blair will get married but i read that chuck won't stop trying to get blair and they said that Blair will find herself rethinking her strong stance against the idea of their being together...
January 16th, 2012 10:29 PM
The obstacles are stupid. Just put Chuck and Blair together for God's sake.
January 16th, 2012 10:29 PM
Awful episode. God is the newest Chair obstacle. I mean really? How lazy is that. The ggwriters are just so so bad. Loved everything Nate. Serena is still being awesome. Dan is still not being awesome. Chuck made me feel horrible for him as per usual and Leighton is the prettiest crier.
Rank: Extra
January 16th, 2012 10:26 PM
Serena should get off of Lonely Boy's depressed arse and stop trying to re-write history. Let's face it, Derena has chemistry no more. And as for Blair, she really needs to make up her mind. Although the idea of a Dair relationship has been pushed back in so many ways, I still have hope. We also know that Chuck might go back to the dark side, pushing Blair farther away than what he imagined.
January 16th, 2012 10:25 PM
I just hate this obstacle. I love Chuck and Blair but I really think this was contrived and sloppy. As it is, Ed and Leighton save their material. Their scenes were heartwrenching. I just wish Blair would accept that its not the universe, God, or fate and follow her heart.
Dan and Blair are also so contrived it isn't even funny, but I am liking DS again. Louis' presence is forever annoying. Basically this is falling flat and Im losing patience. I just want Chuck and Blair to work through this obstacle and I hope its their last.
January 16th, 2012 10:19 PM
Chair together, Chair apart, Chair together, Chair apart ... man GG is so darn predictable with this line...please can we have some realism and see a Dair ending?
January 16th, 2012 10:07 PM
i read a spoiler that blair will get rid of one person of her life (louis is not the person she get rid of)so it is either dan or chuck or nate
January 16th, 2012 10:06 PM
I thought the same thing why didnt Rufus and Lily put it together that "their" Charlie is really Ivy after all!