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February 14th, 2012 11:58 PM
I totally agree with the reviewer. I will again state that this show has become a farce. Logic and continuity has gone out the window since season 2 started. It doesn't know what it wants to be. On one hand, its written like a variety show where casts just break out in covers every five minutes with a little bit of dialogue thrown in just to set up the next song.
On the other, it shoves PSA after PSA down our throats. Do we not remember last year? It was one PSA episode after another. If it's suppose to be light and fluffy then why do they bother to cover serious issues and with no logic or continuity??? Glee can't have it both ways and clearly RM needs to stop trying as it's driving the show to the ground.
Rank: Staff Member
February 14th, 2012 11:48 PM
@Jenna: What other comedies tackle this kinds of topics? I don't think I make Glee the exception; Glee makes Glee the exception.
Point to another comedy that takes such a direct stance on societal issues... someone here mentioned Modern Family and that's a perfect example of the opposite; it weaves subtle messages - about a gay couple kissing, for example - into an ongoing episode. It doesn't pull out a neon sign that screams ATTENTION, THIS IS WHERE WE TAKE A STAND FOR GAY RIGHTS AND POINT OUT THE HYPOCRISY OF SOME CHRISTIANS!!!!
Rank: Staff Member
February 14th, 2012 11:44 PM
@Aquariuz (=liarsunited): Yes, I know that - but then isn't that all the more reason why they could have taken time to flesh out his character instead of having him recite his background in a 30-second speech, followed by an unexplained decision to be welcoming toward a gay couple?
I still doubt we'll see him again next week and the show is then off until April, so I do stand by my comments.
Rank: Regular Character
February 14th, 2012 11:37 PM
@Matt: You do realize that Joe (Samuel Larsen) is the winner of The Glee Project and won seven episodes arc and this is his first episode? I don't see anything wrong with the show introducing and giving him more screen time so the watchers will get to know him. Just like Pot O' Gold when Rory (Damian) get featured heavily.
Rank: Staff Member
February 14th, 2012 11:36 PM
I'm totally with you on this review, Matt. Tonight's episode was all over the place and, as you've stated time and again, Glee's problem of late is that it hasn't taken the time to properly flesh out the storylines it gives the audience. Tonight was no different. And that's not even taking into account the Biblical/gay discussion.
There were shining moments in the episode--the entire scene in the cafeteria with the anti-Rory comments and Puck's "Easy DZs" line, the introduction of Joe (though I hate that Murphy & Co basically lifted everything about him from Cameron on The Glee Project), and Mercedes' ballad. But the majority of the episode was forced and rushed and, as a result, fell flat.
February 14th, 2012 11:34 PM
Fellow Christian hear, to any of you getting mad over the Christian stuff, just shut it.
Seriously.
Your "faith" is not some precious thing that cannot be questioned, hell have any of you actually read the bible? A large chunk of it is about exactly that.
February 14th, 2012 11:27 PM
@Matt,, my complaint last week was not that Glee should be taken lightly, because let's face it Glee can have it's serious moments, but sometimes it seems you forget that Glee is a comedy at it's core, a lot of the complaints you have wouldn't be fitting for other comedies, but somehow Glee seems to be an exception. Th taking glee lightly thing is cop out. My complaint last week was of the fact that you don't seem to review the episode for it;s contents, but continually complain about what was missing from previous episodes leading up into the episode. You seem to go into an episode of Glee, expecting the worst and immediately recognize, according to you, the worst. Like Aquarius I would also be surpised if I ever saw a positive review for Glee again, because you're to hung up on what Glee's not doing instead of what it is doing.
February 14th, 2012 11:26 PM
The reason they can't show them actually sorting stuff out is because...the cast is to fricking big.
Seriously, to show any of that stuff we would have had to take out half the cast and just focus on a few people. While they sounds nice in theory and one of the reasons season 1 did much better, it's just implausible now. People would cry murder if finchel didn't have screen time, or any others in the cast for that matter. And now they've just added 3 more people.
Rank: Staff Member
February 14th, 2012 10:54 PM
Guys, can we not turn this political or religious?
It's one thing to discuss whether Glee should go into biblical territory - is that appropriate for a show when the majority of Gleeks admit they don't take the series seriously? - but this really isn't the place to actually compare your own take on God and sexuality. I can assure you, no one is convincing anyone of anything in that regard on a Glee discussion board.
Rank: Staff Member
February 14th, 2012 10:52 PM
@Will: If you watch it for that reason, more power to you. But the show tackled the bible, Christianity and homosexuality tonight. It's very hard to believe it doesn't want to be taken seriously.
@Aquariuz (=liarsunited): I'm not sure where my inconsistencies lie. I've maintained all along that the problem with Glee is how it burns through storylines and does not come across like it's written with any kind of logic or continuity in mind -- this often happens when they cram SO much into one hour, and then either resolve it or or never mention it again.
I complained here about Sue, for example, getting no screen time only as it compared to that given to someone totally random, like Joe. I'd be 100% fine with Sue, Beiste and Emma being gone if it meant we spent a lot of time focusing on just one or two major characters... but that's not what happened here. Instead, we were force fed people we barely know.
I don't see what's inconsistent in all this from my end.
Rank: Recurring Character
February 14th, 2012 10:51 PM
I haven't watched the episode yet, but please guys don't make this forum into a Glee-based religious debate. Glee tends to be controversial (which some people may hate). I mean, I think every single teen in Glee Club has had pre-maritial (sp) sex... so it's not like any of the characters are overly religious. But if Glee did had misinformed statistics that's wrong... and if they offended any religions that's wrong too. But Glee does spend more time focusing on its "music" than gathering proper statistics and realizing the consequences their controversy can cause.
February 14th, 2012 10:47 PM
Liz - to be clear, I never said "God hates fags" or anything similar. God loves everyone and desires that they follow him. But the Bible does make it pretty clear that God views homosexuality as a sin - just as He sees lying, and stealing and cheating as sins. Now I've lied, stolen and cheated so I am no better - but I don't promote those behaviors. My complaint is that the show overly (for me) celebrates what many believe to be wrong, and then makes it it sounds like Christians are narrow-minded fools.
Cheryl - as i said, I loved the show. Just this one point turns me off.
February 14th, 2012 10:44 PM
@Liz,
I feel so bad that this is what you think. As a Christian, I can say that what you said isn't true. The Bible doesn't say that. Poorly mistaken, fear-driven Christians say that. And it disgusts me. As a Christian, I believe that the homosexual lifestyle is not acceptable. But that has nothing to do with hating the person. I can love the person like I love anyone else. NOWHERE in the Bible does it say that God hates fags. NOWHERE. And the Christians that say that are sorely, sorely mistaken. The way that Glee treated the issue was misinformed. It was incorrect. The characters were treated as flimsy, unsure characters.
February 14th, 2012 10:44 PM
...As a Christian, I believe that the word of God was inspired by God, so that the things that the Bible says are all true, regardless of whether Jesus Himself said them. So for them to say that Jesus said nothing is not completely true. That being said, the Christian community handles the issue poorly. They do not handle it with love, the way the Bible actually instructs people to do so. However, for you to call all moral Christians homo-phobic is incorrect. I am not homophobic. At all, actually. This is a long, extended message and I didn't mean for it to be so long. I just wanted to say this. I hope no one takes this as homophobic or accusing. It is not meant to be such. I'm just frustrated. Really frustrated and saddened.
February 14th, 2012 10:35 PM
I have to agree with everything. The plot is so inconsistent it's ridiculous. Characters that could be sympathetic are ridiculous and they make a mockery of everything. It is a political statement poorly done. Modern Family handles the gay issue so much better by not broadcasting it as a focus. And seriously, 10%? Way to get facts wrong. And bashing the Christian faith? Completely not cool. That is stuff people believe and to treat is so disrespectfully is just plain inappropriate. None of what the characters said was actually Christian. This made them sound like a bunch of flimsy minded idiots, and I know that many Christians are not that. So get real. This episode was disrespectful and sloppy to all parties. The show has just become painful.
February 14th, 2012 10:29 PM
@jr1116, how did Glee misinterpret what the Bible says? It barely even mentioned it, and from what I saw they were being truthful. The Bible does say those things and when it was written they were meant to be followed. I guess in your world only homophobic Christians can make arguments based on the Bible. How dare those gay loving, liberals use it in a logical manner when right wing Bible thumpers can only come up with "God hates fags" or "men should not lie together the way they would with a woman." Personally, I have never heard of a religion that is based on acceptance being so anti-acceptance in my life.
February 14th, 2012 10:24 PM
I don't know why this reviewer keeps writing reviews for Glee when it's clearly he hates the show and everything about it? Maybe he is just a bully.
Rank: Recurring Character
February 14th, 2012 10:21 PM
I love Mercedes', Artie's and God Squad's performances in this episode.
That Brittana kiss really was my favorite scene of the night. There was a lot building up for it. I wished Naya could have sang in this episode and that we get to see what gifts Brittana are exchanging to each other. I am in love with Brittana. Favorite couple on Glee most definitely.
Rank: Recurring Character
February 14th, 2012 10:21 PM
I really wish you can comment more on Brittana in this episode.
Anyway, I thought the Artie/Sugar/Irish guy triangle was completely out of the blue just because there weren't any indication of these three romantically in previous episodes. Therefore, this was hard to believe, but overall kind of cute to watch.
Karofsky's storyline was very unlogical as well because he is suppose to be this gay character who is afraid to admit to others who he is, therefore, for him to go all out in that costume and plan this whole Valentine's Day surprise for Kurt is very hard to believe. There is no way he was not caught in that costume. The last time Kurt saw him, he was with his BF so Karofsky why didn't Karofsky think this through?
February 14th, 2012 10:18 PM
When did GLEE become GLAY? I hate to be negative because i used to love this show, but it has just turned into a Gay Rights infomercial for the producers. We now have 7 gay characters (including Rachel's dads). But what upset me most tonight was the blatant bashing of Christians: saying one of the apostles was probably gay since 1 out 10 men are (which is a lie - all leading reports show it at 1-3%), mis-interpreting the Bible's teaching on homosexuality; likening cub scouts bunking in a tent to the Bible's instruction not "lay with another man." I've had enough. I bit my lip when they promoted behavior behavior I don't approve of, but they went too far in slandering my faith. Look, it's their show, they can do what they want. I'll just stop watching, but I will miss it. The music was great - too bad they had to ruin a fine show by trying to get too political.
Rank: Regular Character
February 14th, 2012 10:16 PM
Inconsistency. Pretty much sums up the show and the reviewer.
He complained when some characters get no screen time or story development in this episode. In "Asian F", he complained when they try to jam lots of characters' storyline together.
At this rate, I'll be shocked if there are any positive Glee reviews in the future.
February 14th, 2012 10:12 PM
We don't watch it for logic or reality. We watch it for entertainment and escapism. I love the show and thing this was one of the best episodes of what has been a great season. Lighten up and have fun!
February 14th, 2012 10:11 PM
Not to be rude but, it was Puck not Artie that asked about the baby when Rachel announced that she and Finn were getting married.
Rank: Guest Star
February 14th, 2012 10:01 PM
Look. If Glee focuses on one major story people complain. If they put a little bit of everyone people complain. I gave up on its consistency a long time ago and enjoy it for what it is. Entertainment.
February 14th, 2012 9:59 PM
How long are they going to keep pretending that rachel and finn's marriage is a good idea? This storyline is riduclous!