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Glee Round Table: "Heart"

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Glee celebrated Valentine's Day this week with a broad focus on love, marriage, the bible and homosexuality.

Oh, yes, it was a heavy episode to be sure, one filled with an accidental Whitney Houston tribute and a lot more. Check in now with Round Table panelists Matt Richenthal, Miranda Wicker and Steve Marsi, and then respond with your own take on "Heart."

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What was your favorite scene from the episode?
Matt: Everything Jeff Goldblum said. Granted, it almost comes across like Jeff Goldblum is doing a Jeff Goldblum impression at this point, making it hard to take the actor seriously. But that just brought an extra amount of fun to his portryal fo Hiram Berry.

Miranda: Rachel's nightly ritual and Finn's intrusion so he could drop a deuce and saying "It's okay, you can stay..." (Uh, no she can't, dude. I'm pretty sure you don't need an audience for that.) However, no marriage can survive without a clear understanding of the rules of poop. Seriously. If you're not okay with each other's bodily functions, there's just no way it'll last.

Steve: The introduction of Samuel Larson as Joe. Was his opening storyline rushed? Absolutely. But I adored him on The Glee Project.

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What was your favorite song from the episode?
Matt: I always like big group numbers that are simply a bunch of character dancing around happily. So I've gotta go with "Stereo Hearts" for this one.

Miranda: Mercedes singing "I Will Always Love You" because it was flawless. Runner-up was "Love Shack" just for the fun factor.

Steve: Easy choice, "L.O.V.E." and obvious reason: Mike and Tina, people! We need A LOT more of them.

Sam and Mercedes: Better together or apart?
Matt: This is a trick question, right? We haven't actually seen them together so how can we choose that option?

Miranda: Apart because the writers have butchered this pairing. Butchered, I say! And not in the way that is serving us a filet mignon of a storyline right now. I've said it in the comments week after week, but there are just so many different ways they could've set this coupling up that would've made far more sense than the way they've done it.

Steve: Agreed with both my cohorts. I couldn't even get into Amber Riley's incredible cover of Whitney because I was laughing at how ridiculous it was for the show to try and force emotion out of this storyline. We have spent about five minutes with Mercedes and Sam. Sorry, Glee writers, but you can't manipulate sentimentality of out a beautiful song. You need to earn my reaction with actual storytelling.

Should Finn and Rachel get married in May?
Matt: No. I'm not even certain if they're in love with each other. Finn's speech to Rachel when he proposed basically boiled down to: nothing else in my life is going well, but at least I have you, so let's get hitched! That's desperation, not romance.

Miranda: Not even a little bit. As someone who ALMOST made that mistake right out of high school and lived to see the error of her ways and gain a little perspective and independence, no. NO. NO. NO. They can move to New York together and continue to be Finchel, but they cannot get married.

Steve: Sure. If it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out and there's a storyline for season four. These aren't real people, Matt and Miranda. I'm down with whatever makes for good drama and this has potential to do so.

Should Glee tackle such topics as religion and homosexuality?
Matt: No. I'm written a few negative reviews in a row and most fans who still defend the series to me make the argument that it's not meant to be taken seriously; they just want to sit back, laugh and enjoy the songs. That's fine, and I'd feel the same way... if it wasn't so clear that Glee WANTS to be taken seriously. It somehow thinks it's a platform for legitimate teen issues, yet it doesn't do anything with those issues except make a quick reference and then break into a song. It's insulting and disrespectful to people actually affected or invested in those topics.

Miranda: This is a tough one. Can they? Yes, they've done it before. The Kurt/Karofsky/gay bullying storyline was done well, in my opinion. It built up over several episodes and was a developed story. But should they tackle the Bible and homosexuality in the manner in which they are currently? No. They aren't spending enough time developing the character's thoughts on the issue, instead just throwing in one-liner PSAs here and there, which are regarded as insincere. They could do better.

Steve: Very well said, Miranda. You can't just show two girls kissing, toss out a couple bible quotes and claim you are taking an issue seriously. If you want to delve into these societal topics, go right ahead. But give them the time and respect they deserve or else they just come across like fodder for the next song.

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1. I agree with you, Matt- every line out of Jeff Goldblum's mouth was just amazing. I know he's been in a lot of things, but I remember him quite clearly from Independence Day. It was great to see him in a role like this, and I think he was perfect.
2. The best song this episode was definitely, "I Will Always Love You." I've had it stuck in my head ever since! I cried so much listening to Mercedes sing this- Amber Riley has such a beautiful voice and it was really showcased in this song (even though I agree that the Samcedes storyline is rubbish). Which brings me to the next question...
3. Sam and Mercedes should NOT be together! I love them but not as a couple.
4. YES!! I love Finnchel! I got married pretty young and it's working out for me!
5. They can tackle sensitive topics all they want, I'm still going to watch the show. Unless they make every episode as bad as "The Spanish Teacher." Then there might be a problem.

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The dinner party was hilarious! But I also loved how non-romantic they set the fight scene upstairs between the kids. The absurdity of Rachel's crazy rituals reminded me of the comic potential of this character, long forgotten.
Fav song: L.O.V.E., both duet and couple were adorable!
Samcedes will inevitabily happen by the end of the season and give a storyline to both. I just hope they won't forget Mercedes-Rachel diva storyline. I like Mercedes' struggles, it shows a character's growth, remember the Tater Tots? brrr
As for the wedding, I think the writers want to show how immature is for a teenager to think that life is like Twilight. Before you commit to someone, grow up, do stuff, meet people, live your dreams. If, as an adult, you still have beside your highschool sweetheart, then good for you.
Christianity issue: no interest, except for Santana's disgusted faces (priceless!) and the jokes about gay Simon but glad it's over.

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Thank god, you guys don't write for the show, or have any creative influence at all.
Song choices were amazing.
Sam and Mercedes, has been handled very well considering the situation they were put in, and the build up of those two as a couple.
The marriage, is being looked at from several different aspects from the reasons as to why the characters want to get married, how this will affect them in the future, ask the question can a high school romance really last. With all the opposition in Finn and Rachel's way they are letting love rule their decision and willing to face the consequences. good job.
Glee isn't really the end all be all of the moral compass, but what messages it does try to convey it does it well. The God Squad discussion was a very valid one, some religious people don't have a problem with homosexuality, but clearly some do. they were very respectful of other people's views.

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1. The whole scene with Rachel and Finn's parents eating dinner. Oh my god. Amazing.
2. Love Shack
3. Apart, I still want Quam or Fabrevans. Samcedes is weird and they're just too different.
4. In the words or rather lyrics of Mercedes, Hell to the No.
5. They already got the whole homosexuality topic. Hello Klaine. I love that glee has gay couples. I think it's great. But religion topics don't bother me. I just love the music and the characters. God Squad is funny.

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Agree with Blu on all counts - well said. To Matt (Reviewer) - I usually agree whole heartedly with your assessments, but I do feel you were a little heavy handed this week with the put downs. We've been calling for more focus on under developed characters, and thats what we got this week with sugar/irish/artie. We also got Rachel's dads and a song from Mike/Tina (woohoo!). I do think the religion storyline is worth telling, but this was very sloppy at best. And calling for more Mr. Schu/Emma/Beiste/Sue in this past episode is a bad idea - after last week's painful episode (dumb/inconsistent storylines all around), we need to focus on the kids for a bit.

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-Jeff Goldblum,Artie,Tina&Mike.Mercy getting to sing.Basically anything involving the underused characters of the show being used.
-"I will Always Love You" was spectacular.loved Stereo Hearts because of Sam's attempt at rapping and Artie because love his white boy soul
-Together.Yes it's hard definitively an answer because they butchered the storyline the moment Chord left,&they've been grasping at making up for it since.we haven't been privy to their summer love so it's like coming into a movie midway thru.But there is something compelling about the idea of them that I just can't give up on.Plus it gives them both a storyline and these days better to have a spotty one than none at all.Thru it storyline Mercy gets to sing&appear more(especially since they managed to disband Kurtcedes for Kurtchel).And Sam is finally a consistent character instead of rotating between cool n' nerdy, and dumb blonde Finn.
-No me gusta.
-Only if they dedicate the time to tackling them right.

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