I still don't see how Chair are a cliche?
When have you seen a character with Chuck's issues be able to have a real romance? If you think Chuck Bass has the same tortured soul as someone as superficial and simple-to-get as Edward from Twilight then you have missed his character completely. You probably just don't like him and can't appreciate his complexity. He is written like Shakespeare's Hamlet. Someone with his complex finding love is really unusual. It usually drives the woman insane. But in comes Blair Waldorf, not your weak Bella or "Ophelia." She has her own dark issues that make her have the unique ability to understand Chuck but tragically means she can't trust him a lot of the time. How is that a cliche?
Anonymous
February 15th, 2012 7:36 PM
@pty Nobody really care if you're watching or not.
@Emily These threads are getting more and more toxic.
Emily
February 15th, 2012 7:05 PM
ALF why are you being nice to y0y0 when she bashed you for stating an opinion in a comment she didn't read? Sadly seems y0y0 did read the comment & didn't comprehend it which is funny when you go back a page to see her rudely tell another poster to take an english class. Take your own advice, y0y0. Your reading comprehension sucks. I'm tired of the crap being heaped on Chair fans & people that dare be nice to Chairios. @Anonymous,@Rebecca & @momo made similar comments & didn't get attacked. I'm scared to say I like Chair & for good reason it seems. Hateful hypocrites like y0y0 ruin things for everyone else playing nice.
pty
February 15th, 2012 6:51 PM
OMG, if somebody wants to stop watching the show that's their right. I'm not going to stop watching but if people want to that's their choice, what happened with free will?
Anonymous
February 15th, 2012 6:25 PM
@Uncle Jackass I wouldn't be surprised about Chuck, the writers are constantly reverting him back to his old self.
@ALF The show is terrible, it deserves to be canceled, but I wouldn't be surprised if the CW tries to force us with another season since it's always getting the special treatments.
@Rebecca I wouldn't be surprised, the writers are always screwing everything over.
Rebecca
February 15th, 2012 6:07 PM
If not for Dair, I would have abandoned ship last season. Actually, I already had because GG is a shadow of its former self, but the blossoming Dair friendship brought me back. They have remained fresh and interesting while everything else has been run into the ground.
Blair had several opportunities to be with Chuck, but instead she made progressively lamer excuses on why they can’t be together. She has been exhibiting erratic behavior all season, only letting her true self shine through with Dan. Tender, playful Blair took a backseat for most of her young adult life, but I think we can all agree Dan brings out the smart, independent woman she’s growing up to be.
I'm scared of the outcome of the inevitable reveal that Dan sent the video. I hope that by that time, she'll just be grateful to have been saved from a doomed marriage. I like where things are going, and I'm eagerly (if nervously) looking forward to watching Dair develop.
ALF
February 15th, 2012 5:45 PM
@y0y0 If you misunderstood me, I apologize. I'm NOT a shipper. I DO NOT SHIP CHAIR and I do like Dair. But I don't care who ends up with who. Yes, GG is a fantasy show but the story lines used to make some sense. Now they're totally illogical-the whole royals thing, the forgotten miscarriage, the repetitive Chair dialogue, the ridiculous roadblocks (limo crashes, dowries, God pacts) and inconsistent characterization/OOC actions is too much for me to handle. Within this thread alone, I've seen Chair, Dair and non-shipping fans echo the same thoughts. If you don't agree, that's cool. As far as me not wanting GG to go into a 6th season? It's painful for me to watch a show I loved continue to deteriorate under a bad show runners (Safran's) watch. The Dair cuteness and sweet Lola can't hold my attention much longer, personally. I'd love for the show to be good and enjoyable, however that's achieved, and I'm not sure how saying that is tantamount to throwing a tantrum?
Sam
February 15th, 2012 5:30 PM
How can the round table say Serena was blindsighted? She KNEW that Dan was in love Blair since he tried to get Blair and chuck together in the mid season final!!!!
ALF
February 15th, 2012 5:17 PM
@momo83- I love your ideas. I wouldn't put Dan alone though. I know Blair reciprocates his feelings but I want him to end up with a girl that likes only him and is drama free. OTOH Blair needs to be alone. Maybe suffering consequences for her Serena-esque flake actions will knock sense into her?
@Anonymous- You're right. I take back the Georgina "[GG] is a shell of her former self" line as being my favorite. Now I'm certain it's nothing more than a dig at how the audience feels, not any sort of real self-awareness. Safran is probably pissing himself at that meta joke.
@Uncle_Jackass- Interesting answers. Maybe when Blair finds out Dan sent that blast/Chuck reverted to his old ways, she'll finally decide to take a break from relationships?
y0y0
February 15th, 2012 5:11 PM
@ALF You sound like a little kid that has a tantrum. Illogical plot? The whole show was illogical to begin with from season 1. You guys just start to cry because your favorite couple didnt get a real shot within the last months.
"Those are popular opinions across the entire fandom."
Across the Chair fans maybe. The kids that are mad.
"The only way to stop production.. petition/boycott will aid in GG not extending into a 6th season, I'm all for it.."
Tantrum, much? You want a show you watch yourself to get canceled because you dont like the couples that get screentime at the moment? What are you guys? A bunch of 15 year old uneducated americans that start to shout and whine when they dont get what they want? Again, illogical plot? The only illogical plot would Chair be together again.
You kids have to get your shit straight. I dont care who Blair is together with as long as its not Louis but Jesus christ, you guys should let yourself check by a psychologist.
ALF
February 15th, 2012 4:51 PM
@SuperIdole- I can't believe I'm about to say this but I have to defend the petition. I'm not shipping at this point and I still agree with the boycott. At 1st I assumed it was Chair fan overreaction too, and I'm sure some are quitting just because they aren't getting screen time, but the actual petition described fatigue with the show's bad, illogical plots, OOC writing and Safran's general ineptitude. Those are popular opinions across the entire fandom. The only way to stop production is to cease consumption and if a petition/boycott will aid in GG not extending into a 6th season, I'm all for it. Great. GG/Safran got me to defend something dubbed a "twitition"! Kill me now.
Uncle Jackass Rank: Regular Character
February 15th, 2012 3:37 PM
Ans: The Chuck Cassanoving was gross. As for Blair's minder, I'm was starting to get creeped out that she was going to replace every portrait of Blair with her own and pillaging the Waldorf wardrobe for shoes, makeup, clothes, and in season hand bags.
7. Which Charlotte Rhodes do you like better, Lola or Ivy?
Ans: Well, the merging process has begun... I wonder is it considered stalking still if it is an identity theft who has stolen your identification in society?
Uncle Jackass Rank: Regular Character
February 15th, 2012 3:36 PM
5. Georgina as Gossip Girl 2.0: Intriguing or boring?
Ans: Hey there Georgie girl, I thought you said that you had that cocktail of medication in the right measure? It needs more of that happy Prozac. Those pschopathical tendencies were bad in the past, but ruining an entire family seems a bit extreme?
Perhaps a Jedi Mind Trick will work "These aren't the Waldorfs that you want to piss off. Move along..."
6. More unintentionally hilarious: Chuck seductively asking Alessandra for dirt on Dan, or Blair's "minder" gazing ominously at the wedding portrait?
Uncle Jackass Rank: Regular Character
February 15th, 2012 3:36 PM
4. Are the writers being true to Blair's character?
Ans: Perhaps, it's not the same Blair if you consider how she got in over her head in a precarious situation with her love life and career. No wait... that sounds exactly like Blair! Flashback to her Yale application and the Nate/Chuck scenario.
As for her schemes, they inevitably never work out. So, check.
Blair 'the coward' tag to make any choices for her suitors. Check.
Uncle Jackass Rank: Regular Character
February 15th, 2012 3:35 PM
3. Which relationship will suffer most as a result of the Dair kiss: Chair, Derena, Blerena or Duck?
Ans: If not evident enough with "The Final Straw," the obvious answer is Chair. It's actually a Kobayashimaru scenario for Chuck. He's damn he does anything or damn if he doesn't do anything. By becoming the villain to take down Dan he will be regressing to a character that most fans will hate while by becoming the mopey (Clark Kent character tossing his baseball in the barn scene) then he look even worst than he already is. It's off to that "Military Camp" for you, a brave new world awaits.
Uncle Jackass Rank: Regular Character
February 15th, 2012 3:34 PM
2. So, Dair happened. Discuss.
Ans: The buildup was good. There is more than enough chemistry. Blair recipricated. Unfortunately, the timing plans sucks. I wonder if there is any Dair fan that are delluded that this will end well? I'm just hoping that that it doesn't putter out in 3 episodes.
Dan should keep going with that internal serenade: "And there's no Mountain to high, no river to wide, sing along and I'll there by your side..."
Uncle Jackass Rank: Regular Character
February 15th, 2012 3:34 PM
Title (As I know it): "Fans on a Ledge.... Push
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1. What was your favorite quote from the episode?
Ans: Blair: "If you are that person, how could she not love you" [almost indirectly talking to herself in the third person] "So... are you going to make your move?"
Favorite scene is a battle of which to choose? I liked the elevator scene with Georgina slamming Dan with "I am GG you idiot!" But the make-out scene with Dan and Blair was maybe the most 'EPIC.'
Anonymous
February 15th, 2012 3:32 PM
@momo83 Yeah, even with no expectations, this show is still awful.
momo83
February 15th, 2012 3:29 PM
@anonymous I agree, the writers have been very inconsistent with the characters/relationships. At this point I'm just watching with no expectations.
Anonymous
February 15th, 2012 3:21 PM
@momo83 the writers can only ruin characters/relationships and have them running around in circles instead of actually developing them.
Anonymous
February 15th, 2012 3:20 PM
@Zoran He doesn't want Serena, he'll probably go back with his dad.
Serena had her chance last season, she blew it. She went straight to Ben after she blew off Nate and Dan, that's why Dan got sick and tired of her.
A love affair is what Blair did with Chuck behind her fiancee's, Louis' back when she humiliated him at the altar in front of everyone.
@ALF 1. Too bad they're not doing anything to actually improve it.
2. The actors are the only ones putting any effort into the writers' crap.
3. Hopefully she doesn't get caught up in the stupid drama storylines that the main characters are going through because then her character will be assassinated like everyone else.
@SuperIdole Rufus is completely clueless or the writers probably forgot.
The show itself does suck and the writers don't care, Penn/Leighton are the ones putting all of the work in their scenes together.
y0y0
February 15th, 2012 2:28 PM
"Why would S assist B and D in their love affair?"
How exactely is it an affair if they love each other? Just because other people love them doesnt mean them being together has to be a negative thing.
"Is B aids in a relationship between S / D..."
She wasnt jealous, she just couldnt, to some extend, stand Dan because she looked down on him because of him not being rich in season1/2. Even now that they are friends and maybe even lovers she makes fun of him
"D is guilty because he did not immediately respond"
SHE pushed him away for quite a while, she doesnt deserve a statement, sorry.
PS: Get an english class, really hard to decode your sentences.
I hate what the writers have done to blair's character. In trying to make her mature they've regressed her character by turning her into a selfish, hypocritical, whiny flake. She's screwing with everyone's emotions. She's only reciprocating feelings for Dan now because she's unhappy and bored in her marriage with Louis, she's not allowed around chuck,dan is around and has been a good friend to her. It's only a matter of time before she hurts Dan. I almost wish Louis would have left her at the alter, Chuck would go back to Eva, Serena would move out of B's house and somehow end up with Carter or Nate, and Dan and Blair would end up alone without friends.
Zoran
February 15th, 2012 1:10 PM
Why would S assist B and D in their love affair? Is B aids in a relationship between S / D, and of course not, she was jealous, and always commented that she was sick of the two, flows all 4 seasons. D is guilty because he did not immediately respond with a statement to S of her love, and B is not supposed to connect S / D if it is already in love with D.
y0y0
February 15th, 2012 12:55 PM
Serana had plenty of time to make a move on Dan but meanwhile she slept with 2 other guys and couldnt decide whether she wants Dan or Nate, eventhough she was in love with him, so why do you defend her? Dan tried for a pretty long time, she denied him. She had the chance to get Dan back, messed it up and now has to deal with the consequences. Even if it's being together with her best friend. She really can not expect him to run back to her now, she should rather be happy for the two and act like a real friend. Maybe even help them in their relationship.
Of course she loves Dan and therefor you cant expect her to do so but its her own mess. Not Blairs fault, not Dans.
Its like knowing there is a package waiting at the post office for you. If you dont pick it up withing 10days theyll send it back. Dans the package, Serena didnt pick him up, now the item got sold to another customer after returning to its original store. Simple as that.
Serena: Congratulations, you've officially joined the dark side.
February 15th, 2012 7:41 PM
I still don't see how Chair are a cliche?
When have you seen a character with Chuck's issues be able to have a real romance? If you think Chuck Bass has the same tortured soul as someone as superficial and simple-to-get as Edward from Twilight then you have missed his character completely. You probably just don't like him and can't appreciate his complexity. He is written like Shakespeare's Hamlet. Someone with his complex finding love is really unusual. It usually drives the woman insane. But in comes Blair Waldorf, not your weak Bella or "Ophelia." She has her own dark issues that make her have the unique ability to understand Chuck but tragically means she can't trust him a lot of the time. How is that a cliche?
February 15th, 2012 7:36 PM
@pty Nobody really care if you're watching or not.
@Emily These threads are getting more and more toxic.
February 15th, 2012 7:05 PM
ALF why are you being nice to y0y0 when she bashed you for stating an opinion in a comment she didn't read? Sadly seems y0y0 did read the comment & didn't comprehend it which is funny when you go back a page to see her rudely tell another poster to take an english class. Take your own advice, y0y0. Your reading comprehension sucks. I'm tired of the crap being heaped on Chair fans & people that dare be nice to Chairios. @Anonymous,@Rebecca & @momo made similar comments & didn't get attacked. I'm scared to say I like Chair & for good reason it seems. Hateful hypocrites like y0y0 ruin things for everyone else playing nice.
February 15th, 2012 6:51 PM
OMG, if somebody wants to stop watching the show that's their right. I'm not going to stop watching but if people want to that's their choice, what happened with free will?
February 15th, 2012 6:25 PM
@Uncle Jackass I wouldn't be surprised about Chuck, the writers are constantly reverting him back to his old self.
@ALF The show is terrible, it deserves to be canceled, but I wouldn't be surprised if the CW tries to force us with another season since it's always getting the special treatments.
@Rebecca I wouldn't be surprised, the writers are always screwing everything over.
February 15th, 2012 6:07 PM
If not for Dair, I would have abandoned ship last season. Actually, I already had because GG is a shadow of its former self, but the blossoming Dair friendship brought me back. They have remained fresh and interesting while everything else has been run into the ground.
Blair had several opportunities to be with Chuck, but instead she made progressively lamer excuses on why they can’t be together. She has been exhibiting erratic behavior all season, only letting her true self shine through with Dan. Tender, playful Blair took a backseat for most of her young adult life, but I think we can all agree Dan brings out the smart, independent woman she’s growing up to be.
I'm scared of the outcome of the inevitable reveal that Dan sent the video. I hope that by that time, she'll just be grateful to have been saved from a doomed marriage. I like where things are going, and I'm eagerly (if nervously) looking forward to watching Dair develop.
February 15th, 2012 5:45 PM
@y0y0 If you misunderstood me, I apologize. I'm NOT a shipper. I DO NOT SHIP CHAIR and I do like Dair. But I don't care who ends up with who. Yes, GG is a fantasy show but the story lines used to make some sense. Now they're totally illogical-the whole royals thing, the forgotten miscarriage, the repetitive Chair dialogue, the ridiculous roadblocks (limo crashes, dowries, God pacts) and inconsistent characterization/OOC actions is too much for me to handle. Within this thread alone, I've seen Chair, Dair and non-shipping fans echo the same thoughts. If you don't agree, that's cool. As far as me not wanting GG to go into a 6th season? It's painful for me to watch a show I loved continue to deteriorate under a bad show runners (Safran's) watch. The Dair cuteness and sweet Lola can't hold my attention much longer, personally. I'd love for the show to be good and enjoyable, however that's achieved, and I'm not sure how saying that is tantamount to throwing a tantrum?
February 15th, 2012 5:30 PM
How can the round table say Serena was blindsighted? She KNEW that Dan was in love Blair since he tried to get Blair and chuck together in the mid season final!!!!
February 15th, 2012 5:17 PM
@momo83- I love your ideas. I wouldn't put Dan alone though. I know Blair reciprocates his feelings but I want him to end up with a girl that likes only him and is drama free. OTOH Blair needs to be alone. Maybe suffering consequences for her Serena-esque flake actions will knock sense into her?
@Anonymous- You're right. I take back the Georgina "[GG] is a shell of her former self" line as being my favorite. Now I'm certain it's nothing more than a dig at how the audience feels, not any sort of real self-awareness. Safran is probably pissing himself at that meta joke.
@Uncle_Jackass- Interesting answers. Maybe when Blair finds out Dan sent that blast/Chuck reverted to his old ways, she'll finally decide to take a break from relationships?
February 15th, 2012 5:11 PM
@ALF You sound like a little kid that has a tantrum. Illogical plot? The whole show was illogical to begin with from season 1. You guys just start to cry because your favorite couple didnt get a real shot within the last months.
"Those are popular opinions across the entire fandom."
Across the Chair fans maybe. The kids that are mad.
"The only way to stop production.. petition/boycott will aid in GG not extending into a 6th season, I'm all for it.."
Tantrum, much? You want a show you watch yourself to get canceled because you dont like the couples that get screentime at the moment? What are you guys? A bunch of 15 year old uneducated americans that start to shout and whine when they dont get what they want? Again, illogical plot? The only illogical plot would Chair be together again.
You kids have to get your shit straight. I dont care who Blair is together with as long as its not Louis but Jesus christ, you guys should let yourself check by a psychologist.
February 15th, 2012 4:51 PM
@SuperIdole- I can't believe I'm about to say this but I have to defend the petition. I'm not shipping at this point and I still agree with the boycott. At 1st I assumed it was Chair fan overreaction too, and I'm sure some are quitting just because they aren't getting screen time, but the actual petition described fatigue with the show's bad, illogical plots, OOC writing and Safran's general ineptitude. Those are popular opinions across the entire fandom. The only way to stop production is to cease consumption and if a petition/boycott will aid in GG not extending into a 6th season, I'm all for it. Great. GG/Safran got me to defend something dubbed a "twitition"! Kill me now.
Rank: Regular Character
February 15th, 2012 3:37 PM
Ans: The Chuck Cassanoving was gross. As for Blair's minder, I'm was starting to get creeped out that she was going to replace every portrait of Blair with her own and pillaging the Waldorf wardrobe for shoes, makeup, clothes, and in season hand bags.
7. Which Charlotte Rhodes do you like better, Lola or Ivy?
Ans: Well, the merging process has begun... I wonder is it considered stalking still if it is an identity theft who has stolen your identification in society?
Rank: Regular Character
February 15th, 2012 3:36 PM
5. Georgina as Gossip Girl 2.0: Intriguing or boring?
Ans: Hey there Georgie girl, I thought you said that you had that cocktail of medication in the right measure? It needs more of that happy Prozac. Those pschopathical tendencies were bad in the past, but ruining an entire family seems a bit extreme?
Perhaps a Jedi Mind Trick will work "These aren't the Waldorfs that you want to piss off. Move along..."
6. More unintentionally hilarious: Chuck seductively asking Alessandra for dirt on Dan, or Blair's "minder" gazing ominously at the wedding portrait?
Rank: Regular Character
February 15th, 2012 3:36 PM
4. Are the writers being true to Blair's character?
Ans: Perhaps, it's not the same Blair if you consider how she got in over her head in a precarious situation with her love life and career. No wait... that sounds exactly like Blair! Flashback to her Yale application and the Nate/Chuck scenario.
As for her schemes, they inevitably never work out. So, check.
Blair 'the coward' tag to make any choices for her suitors. Check.
Rank: Regular Character
February 15th, 2012 3:35 PM
3. Which relationship will suffer most as a result of the Dair kiss: Chair, Derena, Blerena or Duck?
Ans: If not evident enough with "The Final Straw," the obvious answer is Chair. It's actually a Kobayashimaru scenario for Chuck. He's damn he does anything or damn if he doesn't do anything. By becoming the villain to take down Dan he will be regressing to a character that most fans will hate while by becoming the mopey (Clark Kent character tossing his baseball in the barn scene) then he look even worst than he already is. It's off to that "Military Camp" for you, a brave new world awaits.
Rank: Regular Character
February 15th, 2012 3:34 PM
2. So, Dair happened. Discuss.
Ans: The buildup was good. There is more than enough chemistry. Blair recipricated. Unfortunately, the timing plans sucks. I wonder if there is any Dair fan that are delluded that this will end well? I'm just hoping that that it doesn't putter out in 3 episodes.
Dan should keep going with that internal serenade: "And there's no Mountain to high, no river to wide, sing along and I'll there by your side..."
Rank: Regular Character
February 15th, 2012 3:34 PM
Title (As I know it): "Fans on a Ledge.... Push
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1. What was your favorite quote from the episode?
Ans: Blair: "If you are that person, how could she not love you" [almost indirectly talking to herself in the third person] "So... are you going to make your move?"
Favorite scene is a battle of which to choose? I liked the elevator scene with Georgina slamming Dan with "I am GG you idiot!" But the make-out scene with Dan and Blair was maybe the most 'EPIC.'
February 15th, 2012 3:32 PM
@momo83 Yeah, even with no expectations, this show is still awful.
February 15th, 2012 3:29 PM
@anonymous I agree, the writers have been very inconsistent with the characters/relationships. At this point I'm just watching with no expectations.
February 15th, 2012 3:21 PM
@momo83 the writers can only ruin characters/relationships and have them running around in circles instead of actually developing them.
February 15th, 2012 3:20 PM
@Zoran He doesn't want Serena, he'll probably go back with his dad.
Serena had her chance last season, she blew it. She went straight to Ben after she blew off Nate and Dan, that's why Dan got sick and tired of her.
A love affair is what Blair did with Chuck behind her fiancee's, Louis' back when she humiliated him at the altar in front of everyone.
@ALF 1. Too bad they're not doing anything to actually improve it.
2. The actors are the only ones putting any effort into the writers' crap.
3. Hopefully she doesn't get caught up in the stupid drama storylines that the main characters are going through because then her character will be assassinated like everyone else.
@SuperIdole Rufus is completely clueless or the writers probably forgot.
The show itself does suck and the writers don't care, Penn/Leighton are the ones putting all of the work in their scenes together.
February 15th, 2012 2:28 PM
"Why would S assist B and D in their love affair?"
How exactely is it an affair if they love each other? Just because other people love them doesnt mean them being together has to be a negative thing.
"Is B aids in a relationship between S / D..."
She wasnt jealous, she just couldnt, to some extend, stand Dan because she looked down on him because of him not being rich in season1/2. Even now that they are friends and maybe even lovers she makes fun of him
"D is guilty because he did not immediately respond"
SHE pushed him away for quite a while, she doesnt deserve a statement, sorry.
PS: Get an english class, really hard to decode your sentences.
Rank: Extra
February 15th, 2012 2:17 PM
I hate what the writers have done to blair's character. In trying to make her mature they've regressed her character by turning her into a selfish, hypocritical, whiny flake. She's screwing with everyone's emotions. She's only reciprocating feelings for Dan now because she's unhappy and bored in her marriage with Louis, she's not allowed around chuck,dan is around and has been a good friend to her. It's only a matter of time before she hurts Dan. I almost wish Louis would have left her at the alter, Chuck would go back to Eva, Serena would move out of B's house and somehow end up with Carter or Nate, and Dan and Blair would end up alone without friends.
February 15th, 2012 1:10 PM
Why would S assist B and D in their love affair? Is B aids in a relationship between S / D, and of course not, she was jealous, and always commented that she was sick of the two, flows all 4 seasons. D is guilty because he did not immediately respond with a statement to S of her love, and B is not supposed to connect S / D if it is already in love with D.
February 15th, 2012 12:55 PM
Serana had plenty of time to make a move on Dan but meanwhile she slept with 2 other guys and couldnt decide whether she wants Dan or Nate, eventhough she was in love with him, so why do you defend her? Dan tried for a pretty long time, she denied him. She had the chance to get Dan back, messed it up and now has to deal with the consequences. Even if it's being together with her best friend. She really can not expect him to run back to her now, she should rather be happy for the two and act like a real friend. Maybe even help them in their relationship.
Of course she loves Dan and therefor you cant expect her to do so but its her own mess. Not Blairs fault, not Dans.
Its like knowing there is a package waiting at the post office for you. If you dont pick it up withing 10days theyll send it back. Dans the package, Serena didnt pick him up, now the item got sold to another customer after returning to its original store. Simple as that.