Hawaii Five-0 Review: Archer Hits The Mark Comments (Page 3)
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amazingalex Rank: Regular Character
March 1st, 2012 3:53 PM
@kelley...kono has been on wayyy more now that blondie is gone. I am really happy about that. It is getting there, I really believe that. She has a storyline coming up too.
amazingalex Rank: Regular Character
March 1st, 2012 3:51 PM
@kaydee..I know I will be begging for more new episodes. I am all for any new direction it is taking to get away from the mess that was the first half of this season. I think it is just finding its way back to the balance. I think it is heading in the right direction.
Kono is supposed to get a love interest so I am really excited about that. Kono and steve are my two faves so I am looking forward to more screentime for her. She has already had more then she did when the blonde one was on....that is called progress in my opinion. Now we just need more chin.
kelly
March 1st, 2012 3:33 PM
We've had months and months of negativity about Lori and how the show was missing so much without the McDanno moments, so now that the show has gone in another direction I don't think its unusual for many not to like it. Different opinions just show that fans want different things from the show.
Overall I don't mind what direction they go in once the show remains true to the characters and we get a good balance between the team and some decent believable dialogue, which I felt was sorely missing from the last few episodes.
I enjoy all the dynamics and not just the McDanno show. Lori was blamed for taking away screentime from Kono and Chin, but nothings changed since she left and I doubt it will. The show needs to find its balance again which doesn't necassarily mean that it has to become dark and serious again.
@amazing alex - that makes 2 of us! I'm sure a few repeats will have the masses groaning and begging for new episodes (especially since we both disliked a certain character) everyone will realize just how much better these past few have been!!!
jschoi
March 1st, 2012 3:22 PM
@Kaydee...Perfectly said. I'm guilty myself and I'm ashamed, it's not me and not the way I was raised.
I think the last 5 Eps were very good, even the ones with Lori. The last 2 ohana was back and I felt stronger than ever. As a GP fan love the growth in Kono, I think it started in ep 5 but we didn't start to see till the last 2 eps. I think Detective Kalakaua would sound better than Officer.
amazingalex Rank: Regular Character
March 1st, 2012 3:16 PM
@kaydee.....well said. I think we just have a passionate group here. It is all good. :)
I think we are in for a great rest of the season. A few not so deep episodes are okay with me personally. I cannot wait to see what is coming up!
It's funny, I read other shows that I watch blogs, usually without comment, because none of them have the passion, criticisms, enthusiasm, respect and, as jschoi has pointed out, disrespect. This blog always has minimum 4 pages, while others barely reach 2. I've done my share of complaining (especially about the Lori character) too and sincerely hope I've never disrespected anyone for their views and beliefs. You can't please everyone all the time. I don't think the show's losing its way and feel the writers have to take chances otherwise it'll get to predictable and very old very fast. It's been a dark season so far, so these few lighthearted episodes are a good change. Darker, more intense ones are coming to finish out the season. We have a great group here and I look forward to reading both good and bad. Nothing is worth getting so worked up over, especially a tv show. Thanks for listening.
amazingalex Rank: Regular Character
March 1st, 2012 2:00 PM
@walter..that sounds about right. What a nice guy. He certainly does not need a tv show to help his career. He has a very good movie career. I think it is sweet!!
amazingalex Rank: Regular Character
March 1st, 2012 1:49 PM
@zia..I hear ya!!! I probably will just watch from here on out. I understand everyone has a right to post but I think it is odd that they post about a show that they dont like. I dont post on sites of shows I dont like I only post on this one. To each his own.
@kyra..I agree with your post, it is a great show but not perfect. I cant think of a show that is. I am willing to have a few so so episodes until we get to the meat of the season which is coming in the next final episodes. I personally cannot wait!
jschoi
March 1st, 2012 11:08 AM
people talk about how disrespectful my genreration is, maybe it's because we have such great examples
On his weekly appearance on the "O'Reilly Factor" Dennis Miller said James Caan told him "I did it for my kid not my career." Sounds good to me.
Kyra
February 29th, 2012 10:33 PM
Zia, I agree this has become negative. It's a great show, not perfect, but a great show. They do have their right to their say, but the same old complaint without anything positive every week gets old. I did not like the beginning of the season, but I was not on here every week complaining about every little thing. I think the writers have improved the last several episodes, and that they are trying to get more of Chin and Kono in there. Danny has gotten a good dose lately and they are trying to give everyone something, the last 4 episodes showed that. But some people do not have patience. I don't want this show to be like all the others, and its not thats why I watch it. As long as they keep mixing it up I'm happy.
Zia Rank: Regular Character
February 29th, 2012 9:56 PM
I think you got the critic part down, no need to go to class for that. I think a more positive class would work.
I pointed out that it was the character. By the way, the character was thought of by James Caan, he pitched it to PLenkov.
If it is such a bad show, and its the same people who can't find anything right about any episode, then why watch. Yes, you have a right to say what you don't like, but its like the boy who cried wolf. After awhile people don't believe anymore. I think the Lord has better things to do then listen to this.
@Amazingalex......I agree its way too negative. I would rather just enjoy the show.
Oh Lord - mention that the writing actually smells of idiocy and you have comments attributing the guest star with the attribute. If one truly doesn't know the different between an actor and a character-as-written, then perhaps it's time to go to a 'how to be a critic' class.
amazingalex Rank: Regular Character
February 29th, 2012 7:34 PM
@lena..maybe that is why I am okay with a few lighthearted episodes that were not all that deep, I think the rest of the season is gonna be intense.
I agree we have all been through alot this season with its ups and downs. I know I have complained alot about lori so I get it.
Maybe we complaining so much because we have been trough alot this season and with only 6 episodes left or hopes are to high I still love and enjoy the show and for sure I keep watching I think from 2.16 we had some amazing episodes we got two comedy driven episodes to lighten thing up a little. I have a feeling that when we get the new episodes in a few weeks, they are going to very intense to prepare the show for the season finale.Just like last year!
amazingalex Rank: Regular Character
February 29th, 2012 6:41 PM
@zia..I did not think he acted like an idiot either. There were things I would change about the episode but overall I enjoyed it. The only thing I thought was a bit off was the way danny reacted to the boy who was talking to grace. But I often think he overreacts to stuff. I just ignore him.
The complaining on this board is more then the positive posts lately. I dont know if that means the show is losing its way or what. I may just watch and not post about it, it makes me not enjoy it as much. Everyone has their right to post though, I understand that.
Zia Rank: Regular Character
February 29th, 2012 5:55 PM
I don't think James Caan, who has been acting for about 50 years, has had numerous recognitions, whose son is one of the leading characters, was acting like an "idiot". It was a character, and a good one. I'm all for the main 4 characters getting good writing. Perhaps we should we get rid of everyone else, make the 4 main characters know it all and do everything, such as the autopsies, lab work, no back up cops, no guest stars, no recurring characters. They could chase invisible people. That's reality.
That power button is still on the remote.
For those who complain about the complainers - we do complain because we care about the show. So - when I see a famous guest star overacting like an idiot; when I see Danny being really stupid (get real - a 10 year old boy is a stalker???); when I see McGarrett being a side show to the guest star; and when I watch other shows who have proven their mettle by being on for a good number of years stay true to their main characters, aren't so neurotic about the merits of their shows that they have to continually bring in (and overly build up) guest stars - and who know how to introduce new series characters without using a sledgehammer - then I wander what Lenkov is thinking. As for stopping watching the show - may well do so if this week's episode is a sign of things to come. The 4 main characters deserve better writing.
amazingalex Rank: Regular Character
February 29th, 2012 2:09 PM
I just watched.... finally..and I loved it!! I thought it was a great episode and I actually really enjoyed james caan. It was well done and the humor was fantastic. This was one of my faves this season for sure!! I hope he comes back again.
Huggies!!!! :)
jschoi
February 29th, 2012 1:21 PM
@martinelli...He's always funny,thought he was great that whole ep and I just loved him in the wedding ep.
I'm a product of the product placement generation, so I have no problem with it. Without it we would have a lot shorter show, it helps pay the bills. I also imagine doing a show in Hawaii is probably more costly than doing one on the mainland.
martinelli Rank: Regular Character
February 29th, 2012 1:06 PM
@jschoi - I'm glad I'm not :) I guess Kamekona made it fun, don't you think? I just love the guy, he's sooo funny all the time :)
martinelli Rank: Regular Character
February 29th, 2012 12:49 PM
@kaydee - Thank you.
You are right, I tend to overlook stuff that others find annoying too, this is normal. I found the Hilton scene funny, I loved how Danny and Lori embarrassed themselves, while others hated it.
By the way, Peter Lenkov admitted in a radio interview that the Subway scene was a commercial and he said this is the way commercials will be in the future. I can't blame him because when commercials are on, ppl go to the kitchen to get a snack or a soda, or ... to the bathroom ... (including me, lol).
jschoi
February 29th, 2012 12:41 PM
@martinelli...No, you are not the only one who enjoyed the Subway commercial, I loved it.
kaydee Rank: Guest Star
February 29th, 2012 12:40 PM
@martinelli - no I liked the Subway commercial too but I tend to overlook stuff that others find annoying (like the use of the Hilton) and even Steve's over-the-top handling of suspects (he's not a cop so he doesn't follow the "cop" bible which sets Danny off). Every show has its quirks and characters, takes liberties and uses product placement to their advantage (bet you can't look at a Subway sandwich and not think Kamekono!!). Better yet, we get to sound off about it all - good, bad and indifferent - on great blogs like this one and yours!
Danny Williams: Sinead O'Connor called, she wants her hairstyle back.
Rank: Regular Character
March 1st, 2012 3:53 PM
@kelley...kono has been on wayyy more now that blondie is gone. I am really happy about that. It is getting there, I really believe that. She has a storyline coming up too.
Rank: Regular Character
March 1st, 2012 3:51 PM
@kaydee..I know I will be begging for more new episodes. I am all for any new direction it is taking to get away from the mess that was the first half of this season. I think it is just finding its way back to the balance. I think it is heading in the right direction.
Kono is supposed to get a love interest so I am really excited about that. Kono and steve are my two faves so I am looking forward to more screentime for her. She has already had more then she did when the blonde one was on....that is called progress in my opinion. Now we just need more chin.
March 1st, 2012 3:33 PM
We've had months and months of negativity about Lori and how the show was missing so much without the McDanno moments, so now that the show has gone in another direction I don't think its unusual for many not to like it. Different opinions just show that fans want different things from the show.
Overall I don't mind what direction they go in once the show remains true to the characters and we get a good balance between the team and some decent believable dialogue, which I felt was sorely missing from the last few episodes.
I enjoy all the dynamics and not just the McDanno show. Lori was blamed for taking away screentime from Kono and Chin, but nothings changed since she left and I doubt it will. The show needs to find its balance again which doesn't necassarily mean that it has to become dark and serious again.
Rank: Guest Star
March 1st, 2012 3:26 PM
@amazing alex - that makes 2 of us! I'm sure a few repeats will have the masses groaning and begging for new episodes (especially since we both disliked a certain character) everyone will realize just how much better these past few have been!!!
March 1st, 2012 3:22 PM
@Kaydee...Perfectly said. I'm guilty myself and I'm ashamed, it's not me and not the way I was raised.
I think the last 5 Eps were very good, even the ones with Lori. The last 2 ohana was back and I felt stronger than ever. As a GP fan love the growth in Kono, I think it started in ep 5 but we didn't start to see till the last 2 eps. I think Detective Kalakaua would sound better than Officer.
Rank: Regular Character
March 1st, 2012 3:16 PM
@kaydee.....well said. I think we just have a passionate group here. It is all good. :)
I think we are in for a great rest of the season. A few not so deep episodes are okay with me personally. I cannot wait to see what is coming up!
Rank: Guest Star
March 1st, 2012 2:52 PM
@walter I read that also.
It's funny, I read other shows that I watch blogs, usually without comment, because none of them have the passion, criticisms, enthusiasm, respect and, as jschoi has pointed out, disrespect. This blog always has minimum 4 pages, while others barely reach 2. I've done my share of complaining (especially about the Lori character) too and sincerely hope I've never disrespected anyone for their views and beliefs. You can't please everyone all the time. I don't think the show's losing its way and feel the writers have to take chances otherwise it'll get to predictable and very old very fast. It's been a dark season so far, so these few lighthearted episodes are a good change. Darker, more intense ones are coming to finish out the season. We have a great group here and I look forward to reading both good and bad. Nothing is worth getting so worked up over, especially a tv show. Thanks for listening.
Rank: Regular Character
March 1st, 2012 2:00 PM
@walter..that sounds about right. What a nice guy. He certainly does not need a tv show to help his career. He has a very good movie career. I think it is sweet!!
Rank: Regular Character
March 1st, 2012 1:49 PM
@zia..I hear ya!!! I probably will just watch from here on out. I understand everyone has a right to post but I think it is odd that they post about a show that they dont like. I dont post on sites of shows I dont like I only post on this one. To each his own.
@kyra..I agree with your post, it is a great show but not perfect. I cant think of a show that is. I am willing to have a few so so episodes until we get to the meat of the season which is coming in the next final episodes. I personally cannot wait!
March 1st, 2012 11:08 AM
people talk about how disrespectful my genreration is, maybe it's because we have such great examples
Rank: Guest Star
March 1st, 2012 12:23 AM
On his weekly appearance on the "O'Reilly Factor" Dennis Miller said James Caan told him "I did it for my kid not my career." Sounds good to me.
February 29th, 2012 10:33 PM
Zia, I agree this has become negative. It's a great show, not perfect, but a great show. They do have their right to their say, but the same old complaint without anything positive every week gets old. I did not like the beginning of the season, but I was not on here every week complaining about every little thing. I think the writers have improved the last several episodes, and that they are trying to get more of Chin and Kono in there. Danny has gotten a good dose lately and they are trying to give everyone something, the last 4 episodes showed that. But some people do not have patience. I don't want this show to be like all the others, and its not thats why I watch it. As long as they keep mixing it up I'm happy.
Rank: Regular Character
February 29th, 2012 9:56 PM
I think you got the critic part down, no need to go to class for that. I think a more positive class would work.
I pointed out that it was the character. By the way, the character was thought of by James Caan, he pitched it to PLenkov.
If it is such a bad show, and its the same people who can't find anything right about any episode, then why watch. Yes, you have a right to say what you don't like, but its like the boy who cried wolf. After awhile people don't believe anymore. I think the Lord has better things to do then listen to this.
@Amazingalex......I agree its way too negative. I would rather just enjoy the show.
Rank: Extra
February 29th, 2012 8:52 PM
Oh Lord - mention that the writing actually smells of idiocy and you have comments attributing the guest star with the attribute. If one truly doesn't know the different between an actor and a character-as-written, then perhaps it's time to go to a 'how to be a critic' class.
Rank: Regular Character
February 29th, 2012 7:34 PM
@lena..maybe that is why I am okay with a few lighthearted episodes that were not all that deep, I think the rest of the season is gonna be intense.
I agree we have all been through alot this season with its ups and downs. I know I have complained alot about lori so I get it.
Rank: Guest Star
February 29th, 2012 7:30 PM
Maybe we complaining so much because we have been trough alot this season and with only 6 episodes left or hopes are to high I still love and enjoy the show and for sure I keep watching I think from 2.16 we had some amazing episodes we got two comedy driven episodes to lighten thing up a little. I have a feeling that when we get the new episodes in a few weeks, they are going to very intense to prepare the show for the season finale.Just like last year!
Rank: Regular Character
February 29th, 2012 6:41 PM
@zia..I did not think he acted like an idiot either. There were things I would change about the episode but overall I enjoyed it. The only thing I thought was a bit off was the way danny reacted to the boy who was talking to grace. But I often think he overreacts to stuff. I just ignore him.
The complaining on this board is more then the positive posts lately. I dont know if that means the show is losing its way or what. I may just watch and not post about it, it makes me not enjoy it as much. Everyone has their right to post though, I understand that.
Rank: Regular Character
February 29th, 2012 5:55 PM
I don't think James Caan, who has been acting for about 50 years, has had numerous recognitions, whose son is one of the leading characters, was acting like an "idiot". It was a character, and a good one. I'm all for the main 4 characters getting good writing. Perhaps we should we get rid of everyone else, make the 4 main characters know it all and do everything, such as the autopsies, lab work, no back up cops, no guest stars, no recurring characters. They could chase invisible people. That's reality.
That power button is still on the remote.
Rank: Extra
February 29th, 2012 4:54 PM
For those who complain about the complainers - we do complain because we care about the show. So - when I see a famous guest star overacting like an idiot; when I see Danny being really stupid (get real - a 10 year old boy is a stalker???); when I see McGarrett being a side show to the guest star; and when I watch other shows who have proven their mettle by being on for a good number of years stay true to their main characters, aren't so neurotic about the merits of their shows that they have to continually bring in (and overly build up) guest stars - and who know how to introduce new series characters without using a sledgehammer - then I wander what Lenkov is thinking. As for stopping watching the show - may well do so if this week's episode is a sign of things to come. The 4 main characters deserve better writing.
Rank: Regular Character
February 29th, 2012 2:09 PM
I just watched.... finally..and I loved it!! I thought it was a great episode and I actually really enjoyed james caan. It was well done and the humor was fantastic. This was one of my faves this season for sure!! I hope he comes back again.
Huggies!!!! :)
February 29th, 2012 1:21 PM
@martinelli...He's always funny,thought he was great that whole ep and I just loved him in the wedding ep.
I'm a product of the product placement generation, so I have no problem with it. Without it we would have a lot shorter show, it helps pay the bills. I also imagine doing a show in Hawaii is probably more costly than doing one on the mainland.
Rank: Regular Character
February 29th, 2012 1:06 PM
@jschoi - I'm glad I'm not :) I guess Kamekona made it fun, don't you think? I just love the guy, he's sooo funny all the time :)
Rank: Regular Character
February 29th, 2012 12:49 PM
@kaydee - Thank you.
You are right, I tend to overlook stuff that others find annoying too, this is normal. I found the Hilton scene funny, I loved how Danny and Lori embarrassed themselves, while others hated it.
By the way, Peter Lenkov admitted in a radio interview that the Subway scene was a commercial and he said this is the way commercials will be in the future. I can't blame him because when commercials are on, ppl go to the kitchen to get a snack or a soda, or ... to the bathroom ... (including me, lol).
February 29th, 2012 12:41 PM
@martinelli...No, you are not the only one who enjoyed the Subway commercial, I loved it.
Rank: Guest Star
February 29th, 2012 12:40 PM
@martinelli - no I liked the Subway commercial too but I tend to overlook stuff that others find annoying (like the use of the Hilton) and even Steve's over-the-top handling of suspects (he's not a cop so he doesn't follow the "cop" bible which sets Danny off). Every show has its quirks and characters, takes liberties and uses product placement to their advantage (bet you can't look at a Subway sandwich and not think Kamekono!!). Better yet, we get to sound off about it all - good, bad and indifferent - on great blogs like this one and yours!