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Revenge Round Table: "Chaos"

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Revenge rocked its fans last Wednesday, as Emily and Daniel's engagement party turned to "Chaos." 

In this edition of the TV Fanatic Round Table, the team of Leigh Raines, Chandel Charles, Dan Forcella and Christine Orlando debate whether the shocking conclusion was a brilliant twist or am irritating bait and switch...

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Were your surprised that Tyler was the body on the beach?
Leigh: No. I feel like as the show became a hit, the writers realized that killing Daniel off would be a major mistake. Also, if you look at press photos, the new body looked different. I think Daniel fell when he was fighting with Tyler.

Chandel: I actually was. I guess somewhere deep inside I wanted things to get more real and consequential. Killing Tyler off instead of Daniel doesn't really do that for me.

Dan: Yes, especially since it was Daniel's body on the beach. I'm all for keeping the audience guessing, but not when you blatantly show one person falling to the ground at the beginning of an episode, and then switch that same scene to a different person later on. It's being tricky for the sake of being tricky, and it ruined the episode for me. 

Christine: I guessed it would be Tyler, although I agree with Dan on the tricky editing. I'm assuming the scene with Daniel falling is when he's knocked out and we'll get more details about how that happened in the episodes to come.

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What was your favorite scene?
Leigh: I liked when Takeda showed up at the engagement party and we realized he was going to protect Emily. When we finally got to the engagement party, I felt a relief, like 'okay now we will finally get to see what happens!'

Chandel: Probably the scene with Declan and Charlotte in the bar both stating that their fathers were both dead. It showed us a moment where Charlotte was just like everyone else with a life that's just as complicated.

Dan: The ending credits. Now that this catastrophe is over, I can look forward to better stories moving forward on Revenge.

Christine: I loved when Jack gave Emily back her dog and then Nolan told Emily to sail away, fall in love and make little volunteer babies.  I don't particularly like Jack and don't want to see Emily with him but Nolan's delivery of that line was simply adorable.

What do you think Takeda's going to do with Amanda?
Leigh: Takeda is either going to kill Amanda or protect her. I'm still not sure.

Chandel: Hopefully get rid of her for a good long time. She is a loose cannon.

Dan: He's going to train her to be his new karate killer, ready to get revenge on all those who did her wrong.

Christine: Takeda's capable of anything. He could kill her and toss her body in the ocean, capture her and hold her prisoner somewhere or train her as his new apprentice. Anything goes.

Will Daniel believe Tyler's accusations about Emily?
Leigh: I'm not sure if Daniel remembers. He seemed to be knocked out.

Chandel: Heck no. If he does, it will only serve to promote his mother's suspicions, not Tyler's.

Dan: No way. He's too in love, and he knows how crazy Tyler is. That dude would say anything to get himself into Daniel's good graces. Too bad for Daniel, Tyler is finally telling the truth this time.

Christine: Daniel is pretty easy to manipulate. Victoria pulls him one way, Emily another, now there's crazy Tyler. I don't think he'll believe Tyler but he's beginning to have his doubts about his fiance.

So... who shot Tyler?
Leigh: I think Takeda shot Tyler and Amanda got there right after and that's where all of the blood came from.

Chandel: Probably Daniel. Notice how quick Victoria was to advise him not to say a word.

Dan: Amanda, but Daniel will get tried for murder, which will lead to a long trial. The first season will end with Daniel going to prison.

Christine: I'll guess Tyler and Daniel struggled and Tyler knocked Daniel out. Then Takeda, shot Tyler and he set up Daniel as part of the plot for revenge. I think Amanda just came upon the body and freaked. 

C. Orlando is a TV Fanatic Staff Writer. Follow her on Twitter.

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How did Takeda get the box to present it to Amanda at the engagement party. Didn't Tyler give it back to Amanda at the garage when she paid him off.??? So Tyler convinces Emily that Amanda has betrayed her but she realizes it is not true when Tyler mentions Amanda planted the cellphone from the murdered guard on him. So Emily fights with Tyler and then runs out presumably to warn Amanda but she stops off at Jack's boat first which Nolan manages not to notice on his survellance camera? And she runs off of Jack's boat to the beach where Tyler is threatening Daniel. No wonder she was late and came upon the murdered body of Tyler. Unless she too thought it was Daniel. And how does she know Takeda? I never did figure out how fake Amanda knows Takeda! And finally I love that Nolan was the only man wearing red at the engagement party.

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Note: Tyler removes his gloves during altercation with Daniel on the beach.

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1. surprised it was Tyler? Surely you jest. 2. Takeda's plans for xAmanda? Woo her, train her. She will, at some point, reappear with a twist. He will use her to play off xEmily. I agree w/ Dan on this one. 3. Fav scene? When Takeda picked up xAmanda. As they drove off - go back and listen to what he said to her!
This is Key. 4. Daniel believing Tyler? -Doubting Daniel. Always. For now and ever shall be. 5.Who shot Tyler?
The person who removed Tyler's gloves could only be connected to Takeda. The gloves were removed for the purpose of putting Tyler's fingerprints on -on what?
A gun? One of the recordings from the house burning? -
As previously stated, I think it was the bodyguard who shot Tyler, following Takeda's instructions.

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I think .... Nolan's bodyguard is one of the shooters --there were four shots, right?
I think Takeda is the head honcho and pulled everyone together, even real Amanda.
He was either friends with Clark or lost money or family because of the Graysons. I also think Revenge should find another network next season, or demand ABC limit their pre-empts

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I'll repeat that when "Emily" told Jack "someday Amanda will come back",she was really talking about herself although he didn't know that.So that makes his remarks to "Amanda" and her reaction more bittersweet.

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Where did Amanda get the gun?

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I think that Amanda shot tyler to protect Emily after jack was saying how Emily pushed him towards her

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Favourite scence--the nod between Nolan and Takeda. This opens up a whole plethora of possibilities as to the connections (the whys,wheres, how longs). It also changes the perception of Nolans character from that of being a nerdy social outcast to a more formidable yet unknown player in the mix.

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1. Very. I guess I was actually more disappointed than surprised, since I despise him. But the ending itself, when Victoria rolled the body and Tyler was there shocked me. "The outcome of Chaos can never be predicted." 2. Victoria to Daniel in the ending: 'Don't say a word' 3. I think he'll want to kill her, but Emily will try to stop it, if she has time enough after dealing with the scandal. 4. Not sure. He might not believe them but I do feel this wedding is going down the flush. Talking about remembering and believing in accusations, where did our lovely Lydia go? 5. Takeda.... or Vickie.

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However, the better scenario would be that the killer is Victoria. I understand she would not have had much time to kill Tyler, get back to the ball and deliver her speech... but, she did hate Tyler, she might have seen the gun, realized her son was in danger and just took care of it. Besides that would be perfect, since no one would suspect it, specially since she cried "Daniel" and covered Tyler's body with her fingerprints (which is brliant because a. she has an excuse if they find her fingerprints in the body and b. makes people think she's not the killer). That's unlikely but it's a good plot.