Criminal Minds Review: Hot For Teacher Comments (Page 2)
37 Comments
cal
March 15th, 2012 4:15 PM
Agree with the early comments about the writers being bored and lazy. This was a really weak episode. Disagree with Rachel comments about the unsub and people who date younger people don't tend to be immature but it tends to be more about control issues and they date younger people because they are easy to control and manipulate. The whole Kevin and Gracia thing was a farce and a silly ploy to add to the drama of trying to make the season ending interesting by pretending Gracia may not be in the running of one of the couples to get married. Like it makes any difference, still not interesting.
Shawsy
March 15th, 2012 3:52 PM
Love the cast. Love the show
Mary Hardie-Roze
March 15th, 2012 3:04 PM
I felt sorry for Kevin. He and Garcia make such a cute couple, mainly because they both live in the "cyber world".
As a retired teacher, I thought the "unsub" was just creepy. Hopefully changes to most states licenseure policies would weed out those unstable people before they ever get into a classroom.
Douglas Wolfe Rank: Staff Member
March 15th, 2012 2:08 PM
I don't know who the actor was who played the teacher's prey but he did a good job. We saw that by the stunned look of horror on his face when the dying teacher gasped out the wrong name at the end.
There are all kinds of reasons for people not wanting to get married - some good, some not so good. Either way - if someone isn't ready it's tragic when they go ahead anyway. Penelope's character has grown over the years - she's a lot stronger than she was at the beginning, and doesn't need to do anything she doesn't want to (not that she ever did - but maybe in the beginning she might have caved). I'm with her on this one - and maybe this is a deal-breaker for Kevin. If so, it's too bad, but *much* better (if this were a case in real life) not to take it further into marriage.
Connie
March 15th, 2012 1:36 PM
This episode is the most cringe-worthy in all of Criminal Minds' history. So hard to watch a woman as a child sexual predator.
Nathel
March 15th, 2012 1:35 PM
a lot to think about last nights episode. I don't think it was up to par for criminal minds. It was good, but not great;. As far as Garcia, why don't they live together for a while and see how that goes. On the other hand maybe Kevin wants out of the story. Garcia and Morgan are just really good friends. He was on his way to a meeting and didn't have time for Kevin, but he could have handled it better by telling him he would talk to him later. love all the team and don't want to see Prentis leave again. but i guess what will be will be.
Sue Ann Rank: Regular Character
March 15th, 2012 1:22 PM
It is indeed odd to see Xander Harris as a sweaty nerd, but I am so happy to see him at all that I don't mind that. The thing about Kevin is that he fell for Garcia before he ever laid eyes on her; he was called in to retrieve information from her computers, and he fell for her mind. It never mattered to him what she looks like, although I do find the idea that she should not deserve to marry because she is fat and ugly highly offensive. I have never believed that Garcia and Morgan have anything other than a flirtation; I have had many myself, and they were never even slightly serious. It's an old art form -- it's a game. She loves Kevin. I didn't care for Morgan's behavior, but Garcia was acting like a child. Whomever said that she needs counseling is dead-on, in my opinion.
I admit to being quite disappointed with the investigative aspect of this episode, as Renata has pointed out.
As for the marriage proposal, I'm kind of rooting for Penelope. They've got a good thing. Why screw it up by forcing it into a conventional box. Frankly, I'd like to see Kevin go -- not because I particularly dislike the character, but because I've never been comfortable seeing Xander Harris as a sweaty, bumbling nerd. The guy took on vampires, for crying out loud!
klimville
March 15th, 2012 1:09 PM
I agree, Michael...I didn't see it as Morgan giving him the cold shoulder as much as Kevin caught him on the way to a meeting, asked the question and because Garcia was coming (or there) he couldn't answer without her hearing. And I think it was very immature of her to keep hounding both with what they did discuss...if they wanted her to know (and Kevin tried to think of something) they would have said. Numerous phone calls to Morgan wasn't going to make it go away or for him to tell her.
As for the dress, @kay, this deranged teacher was trying to make everything perfect and she wanted that dress to wear....it just added to her instability or obsession. Loved the twist of a student before Tommy...it sort of nipped in the bud HIS obsession of the older woman in love with him!
I thought the episode was strange and disturbing. Teri Polo played the role well, but the writing and the team were out of sync. Maybe it's end-of-the-season slump before May sweeps, but lately, the show has become cliche and boring.
As for Garcia and Kevin, I felt so bad for him. He's adorable in his own quirky way, the same as she is - to me they're a matched set. But I do think that she's secretly holding out for Morgan to truly make her his "baby girl".
marcy
March 15th, 2012 12:53 PM
My goodness, what shallow perspectives! Only beautiful barbie dolls get marriage proposals, so Garcia ought to accept Kevin as a gift from god?
I persistently refuse to marry, thankful I live in a world where "Live close by; Visit Often" can be a viable choice as well. Women don't HAVE to marry, ladies. Some of us see marriage as indentured servitude, and historically it has been that for a huge percentage of women forever. I don't choose to marry because marriage is a lifestyle that would make me unhappy. I'm 61. I have NEVER waked up regretting my choice. Most of my married friends HAVE waked up regretting their choices.
Nuff said. It was a pretty good episode. I thought the teacher was a little over the top, and the serial killings coupled with the teacher syndrome is not common (if it has EVER been done). I love Garcia, and I hope she stands her ground.
debbie
March 15th, 2012 12:53 PM
I think Garcia is making a big mistake. Kevin will probably leave. I would!
Beverly
March 15th, 2012 12:40 PM
I like the comments made by Floretta. I really felt sad for Kevin. It took a lot of courage for him to speak up, and then Penelope shot him down.
jadedbabe41
March 15th, 2012 12:31 PM
i think,deep down way deep inside his sexy heart Morgan,loves Penelope Garcia,but because she isn't status quo beautiful he holds her in regard as being a good friend...now far as penelope not marrying kevin,bad chose ,cuz Morgan will never,ever see her more than a chubby buddy,she is funnny,and high spirited,but girlfiend material...???? Nah!!!!!!!
Josie Leeds Rank: Guest Star
March 15th, 2012 12:29 PM
Writers are definitely getting sloppy and/or bored. Several elements were completely out of sync last night. Morgan snubbing Kevin was out of character. Garcia needs a serious reality check--I'm with Farsia2010 and his observations--writers need to either crap or get off the pot, i.e., let a relationship go forward or delete.The other characters simply didn't mesh as they usually do--they were all detached and disinterested. Hey--if the writers are bored with this schtick, please replace them. They can ruin a great show if left unchecked.
Rachel
March 15th, 2012 12:29 PM
Kay, the reason the unsub was acting like she was in high school is that one of the symptoms of the psychological syndrome that causes teachers to fall in love with their students is social/ emotional immaturity. I watch a lot of cop/ medical shows and characters like this woman are very common (though usually they don't murder anyone unless their backs are to the wall. See Law and Order CI (I forget the name of the episode but Anne Dudak plays the teacher character) and they always act like teenagers.
Britney
March 15th, 2012 12:25 PM
First off, Pat, you're a jerk.
Secondly, I don't think Morgan was giving Kevin the cold shoulder so much as he was embarrassed that Kevin would expect him to know such things about Garcia. (Which, admittedly, he most likely does.)
As for the main storyline this week... I was kind of grossed out, but that's just my normal reaction when I hear about something like this. Pretty sure my face is in a permanent queasy expression from when we learned about the first Johnny, lol. :)
Michael
March 15th, 2012 11:59 AM
How is Morgan trying to get to a meeting to do HIS JOB giving Kevin the cold sholder
Pat
March 15th, 2012 11:52 AM
She should marry Kevin, she is fat, ugly and weird, so no one else will want to marry her.
Renata Sellitti Rank: Staff Member
March 15th, 2012 11:26 AM
@Kay I totally agree, why did it take so long for them to figure out that the child might be the UnSubs? And @farsia2010, well said. Morgan's cold shoulder to Kevin was unnecessary and strange. Garcia is important to him, Kevin is important to Garcia, therefore by transitive law of...whatever...he should've been kinder and offered advice. Weird all around.
kay
March 15th, 2012 11:01 AM
@floretta intolerant much? We don't even know how serious the relationship was! Just because he thought it was time, it did not mean she did. She doesn't need to jump into a proposal. There's nothing worse than accepting a proposal then deciding later it's wrong- look how bitchy carrie was about it. I don't think garcia's even that old. If she doesn't want to get married, she doesn't want to get married!
Michael
March 15th, 2012 10:48 AM
@Leesa
There was some profiling a lot more then there was last week
Floretta
March 15th, 2012 10:14 AM
Oh fer cryin' out loud, Penelope! was my reaction. She's a grown woman, been around the block once or twice. If you wait until you're "sure" or "ready" you never will be and you'll wake up at 50 and wonder what the h happened. I worked with a woman like that and spending your entire life alone when you didn't have too? Well, regret is not pretty. Better to have loved and lost, etc. Clearly our Penelope needs counseling, to either clear whatever trauma is holding her back from developing a relationship with a person instead of a computer or help her learn to make decisions instead of wobbling. She has anxiety issues that need to be addressed. Love's a crapshoot; to quote Van Halen, might as well jump!
Leesa
March 15th, 2012 8:01 AM
I agree with Michael that Garcia might be leary of marriage b/c of the failed relationships of her "family".
Why did Morgan give Kevin the cold shoulder!? It made no sense and then he ignored Garcias phone calls - what if they were about the case? (Which they NEVER called her for any info yesterday, did they?)
There was no profiling last night (still love the show!), in 1 minute Reid went from, '22 caliber....woman....foster care...its her baby!' and we were done!!
And according to this site (I think) Prentiss leaves the show at someones wedding, so does Garcia finally agree to marry Kevin!? I know for a fact it would not be JJ/Will or Hotch/Beth - the show would not break my heart like that!!! (Team Jotch!)
Is Hotch growing sideburns or have I not noticed it before?
Michael
March 15th, 2012 7:50 AM
I kinda of agree with Garcia though you know it seem like when ever one of my friends get married their relastionship with their lover changes
March 15th, 2012 4:15 PM
Agree with the early comments about the writers being bored and lazy. This was a really weak episode. Disagree with Rachel comments about the unsub and people who date younger people don't tend to be immature but it tends to be more about control issues and they date younger people because they are easy to control and manipulate. The whole Kevin and Gracia thing was a farce and a silly ploy to add to the drama of trying to make the season ending interesting by pretending Gracia may not be in the running of one of the couples to get married. Like it makes any difference, still not interesting.
March 15th, 2012 3:52 PM
Love the cast. Love the show
March 15th, 2012 3:04 PM
I felt sorry for Kevin. He and Garcia make such a cute couple, mainly because they both live in the "cyber world".
As a retired teacher, I thought the "unsub" was just creepy. Hopefully changes to most states licenseure policies would weed out those unstable people before they ever get into a classroom.
Rank: Staff Member
March 15th, 2012 2:08 PM
I don't know who the actor was who played the teacher's prey but he did a good job. We saw that by the stunned look of horror on his face when the dying teacher gasped out the wrong name at the end.
There are all kinds of reasons for people not wanting to get married - some good, some not so good. Either way - if someone isn't ready it's tragic when they go ahead anyway. Penelope's character has grown over the years - she's a lot stronger than she was at the beginning, and doesn't need to do anything she doesn't want to (not that she ever did - but maybe in the beginning she might have caved). I'm with her on this one - and maybe this is a deal-breaker for Kevin. If so, it's too bad, but *much* better (if this were a case in real life) not to take it further into marriage.
March 15th, 2012 1:36 PM
This episode is the most cringe-worthy in all of Criminal Minds' history. So hard to watch a woman as a child sexual predator.
March 15th, 2012 1:35 PM
a lot to think about last nights episode. I don't think it was up to par for criminal minds. It was good, but not great;. As far as Garcia, why don't they live together for a while and see how that goes. On the other hand maybe Kevin wants out of the story. Garcia and Morgan are just really good friends. He was on his way to a meeting and didn't have time for Kevin, but he could have handled it better by telling him he would talk to him later. love all the team and don't want to see Prentis leave again. but i guess what will be will be.
Rank: Regular Character
March 15th, 2012 1:22 PM
It is indeed odd to see Xander Harris as a sweaty nerd, but I am so happy to see him at all that I don't mind that. The thing about Kevin is that he fell for Garcia before he ever laid eyes on her; he was called in to retrieve information from her computers, and he fell for her mind. It never mattered to him what she looks like, although I do find the idea that she should not deserve to marry because she is fat and ugly highly offensive. I have never believed that Garcia and Morgan have anything other than a flirtation; I have had many myself, and they were never even slightly serious. It's an old art form -- it's a game. She loves Kevin. I didn't care for Morgan's behavior, but Garcia was acting like a child. Whomever said that she needs counseling is dead-on, in my opinion.
Rank: Guest Star
March 15th, 2012 1:12 PM
I admit to being quite disappointed with the investigative aspect of this episode, as Renata has pointed out.
As for the marriage proposal, I'm kind of rooting for Penelope. They've got a good thing. Why screw it up by forcing it into a conventional box. Frankly, I'd like to see Kevin go -- not because I particularly dislike the character, but because I've never been comfortable seeing Xander Harris as a sweaty, bumbling nerd. The guy took on vampires, for crying out loud!
March 15th, 2012 1:09 PM
I agree, Michael...I didn't see it as Morgan giving him the cold shoulder as much as Kevin caught him on the way to a meeting, asked the question and because Garcia was coming (or there) he couldn't answer without her hearing. And I think it was very immature of her to keep hounding both with what they did discuss...if they wanted her to know (and Kevin tried to think of something) they would have said. Numerous phone calls to Morgan wasn't going to make it go away or for him to tell her.
As for the dress, @kay, this deranged teacher was trying to make everything perfect and she wanted that dress to wear....it just added to her instability or obsession. Loved the twist of a student before Tommy...it sort of nipped in the bud HIS obsession of the older woman in love with him!
Rank: Guest Star
March 15th, 2012 12:57 PM
I thought the episode was strange and disturbing. Teri Polo played the role well, but the writing and the team were out of sync. Maybe it's end-of-the-season slump before May sweeps, but lately, the show has become cliche and boring.
As for Garcia and Kevin, I felt so bad for him. He's adorable in his own quirky way, the same as she is - to me they're a matched set. But I do think that she's secretly holding out for Morgan to truly make her his "baby girl".
March 15th, 2012 12:53 PM
My goodness, what shallow perspectives! Only beautiful barbie dolls get marriage proposals, so Garcia ought to accept Kevin as a gift from god?
I persistently refuse to marry, thankful I live in a world where "Live close by; Visit Often" can be a viable choice as well. Women don't HAVE to marry, ladies. Some of us see marriage as indentured servitude, and historically it has been that for a huge percentage of women forever. I don't choose to marry because marriage is a lifestyle that would make me unhappy. I'm 61. I have NEVER waked up regretting my choice. Most of my married friends HAVE waked up regretting their choices.
Nuff said. It was a pretty good episode. I thought the teacher was a little over the top, and the serial killings coupled with the teacher syndrome is not common (if it has EVER been done). I love Garcia, and I hope she stands her ground.
March 15th, 2012 12:53 PM
I think Garcia is making a big mistake. Kevin will probably leave. I would!
March 15th, 2012 12:40 PM
I like the comments made by Floretta. I really felt sad for Kevin. It took a lot of courage for him to speak up, and then Penelope shot him down.
March 15th, 2012 12:31 PM
i think,deep down way deep inside his sexy heart Morgan,loves Penelope Garcia,but because she isn't status quo beautiful he holds her in regard as being a good friend...now far as penelope not marrying kevin,bad chose ,cuz Morgan will never,ever see her more than a chubby buddy,she is funnny,and high spirited,but girlfiend material...???? Nah!!!!!!!
Rank: Guest Star
March 15th, 2012 12:29 PM
Writers are definitely getting sloppy and/or bored. Several elements were completely out of sync last night. Morgan snubbing Kevin was out of character. Garcia needs a serious reality check--I'm with Farsia2010 and his observations--writers need to either crap or get off the pot, i.e., let a relationship go forward or delete.The other characters simply didn't mesh as they usually do--they were all detached and disinterested. Hey--if the writers are bored with this schtick, please replace them. They can ruin a great show if left unchecked.
March 15th, 2012 12:29 PM
Kay, the reason the unsub was acting like she was in high school is that one of the symptoms of the psychological syndrome that causes teachers to fall in love with their students is social/ emotional immaturity. I watch a lot of cop/ medical shows and characters like this woman are very common (though usually they don't murder anyone unless their backs are to the wall. See Law and Order CI (I forget the name of the episode but Anne Dudak plays the teacher character) and they always act like teenagers.
March 15th, 2012 12:25 PM
First off, Pat, you're a jerk.
Secondly, I don't think Morgan was giving Kevin the cold shoulder so much as he was embarrassed that Kevin would expect him to know such things about Garcia. (Which, admittedly, he most likely does.)
As for the main storyline this week... I was kind of grossed out, but that's just my normal reaction when I hear about something like this. Pretty sure my face is in a permanent queasy expression from when we learned about the first Johnny, lol. :)
March 15th, 2012 11:59 AM
How is Morgan trying to get to a meeting to do HIS JOB giving Kevin the cold sholder
March 15th, 2012 11:52 AM
She should marry Kevin, she is fat, ugly and weird, so no one else will want to marry her.
Rank: Staff Member
March 15th, 2012 11:26 AM
@Kay I totally agree, why did it take so long for them to figure out that the child might be the UnSubs? And @farsia2010, well said. Morgan's cold shoulder to Kevin was unnecessary and strange. Garcia is important to him, Kevin is important to Garcia, therefore by transitive law of...whatever...he should've been kinder and offered advice. Weird all around.
March 15th, 2012 11:01 AM
@floretta intolerant much? We don't even know how serious the relationship was! Just because he thought it was time, it did not mean she did. She doesn't need to jump into a proposal. There's nothing worse than accepting a proposal then deciding later it's wrong- look how bitchy carrie was about it. I don't think garcia's even that old. If she doesn't want to get married, she doesn't want to get married!
March 15th, 2012 10:48 AM
@Leesa
There was some profiling a lot more then there was last week
March 15th, 2012 10:14 AM
Oh fer cryin' out loud, Penelope! was my reaction. She's a grown woman, been around the block once or twice. If you wait until you're "sure" or "ready" you never will be and you'll wake up at 50 and wonder what the h happened. I worked with a woman like that and spending your entire life alone when you didn't have too? Well, regret is not pretty. Better to have loved and lost, etc. Clearly our Penelope needs counseling, to either clear whatever trauma is holding her back from developing a relationship with a person instead of a computer or help her learn to make decisions instead of wobbling. She has anxiety issues that need to be addressed. Love's a crapshoot; to quote Van Halen, might as well jump!
March 15th, 2012 8:01 AM
I agree with Michael that Garcia might be leary of marriage b/c of the failed relationships of her "family".
Why did Morgan give Kevin the cold shoulder!? It made no sense and then he ignored Garcias phone calls - what if they were about the case? (Which they NEVER called her for any info yesterday, did they?)
There was no profiling last night (still love the show!), in 1 minute Reid went from, '22 caliber....woman....foster care...its her baby!' and we were done!!
And according to this site (I think) Prentiss leaves the show at someones wedding, so does Garcia finally agree to marry Kevin!? I know for a fact it would not be JJ/Will or Hotch/Beth - the show would not break my heart like that!!! (Team Jotch!)
Is Hotch growing sideburns or have I not noticed it before?
March 15th, 2012 7:50 AM
I kinda of agree with Garcia though you know it seem like when ever one of my friends get married their relastionship with their lover changes