Once Upon a Time Round Table: "Red-Handed"

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The Once Upon a Time Round Table team is not afraid of The Big Bad Wolf.

In this edition of the weekly feature, panelists Jim Garner, Christine Orlando and Nick McHatton tackle "Red-Handed," going over various aspects of the latest episode and wondering where the CSI lab is in Storybrooke. Won't you join in?


Does the heart box Ruby found belong to Kathryn?
Christine: I don't think so. I'm going with Kathryn still being alive. I don't know where or how yet, though. And of course that still leaves the question: whose heart is it?

Jim: I honestly don't think so. First, if it looks like a normal human heart, then it's not Regina's version... those are glowing and pulsate. Second, I agree with Christine, I think Kathryn is still alive. Maybe she's in the hospital Belle is in.

Nick: That would seem like a poor way to get rid of Kathryn after the way she's been built up. So I don't think it's her. I momentarily thought it could be Graham, but Regina squeezed his heart into dust.

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How much of Ruby's Fairy Tale "condition" was carried into Storybrooke? Did she hear David breathing or smell him to find him in the woods?
Jim: Her heightened senses for sure. When Ruby said "I hear him" I wonder if she actually was smelling him but it didn't click in her head that it wasn't a sound. I'm pretty sure when she got to "I know where he is" that all her senses were working overtime. My curiosity is what her cloak became in Storybrooke. A short red miniskirt maybe?

Christine: I'm hoping she doesn't turn into a wolf during the full moon or Storybrooke might have lost a few folks by now but yes, I think she's retained some of those abilities. I'd guess it gives her increased powers of smell and hearing. It will be fun to see if they carry this story forward.

Nick: I think her senses were carried over, but not her wolf form. Granny still had her senses, but her wolf form was suppressed. I think she smelled him.

Do they have a CSI lab in Storybrooke and, if not, how are the writers going to dance their way around the town's crime-solving limitations? How did Regina get Mary Margaret's fingerprints on the box?
Jim: Most crime labs actually get work from an entire region. Besides, people can leave as long as they are planning on coming back right? Isn't that what Henry said? So anyone could run the heart to Boston for testing. As for the box, give that the Queen was married to Snow's father, I'm pretty sure Regina would have access to all sorts of things with MM's finger prints on it.

Christine: Mary Margaret's a teacher so perhaps her finger prints are on record for that.  Could Regina have transferred them somehow?  Might she have taken a box that was Mary Margaret's already and used that?  As for the lab, I'm guessing now that strangers are allowed in Storybrooke that there's a courier that can take the heart to a lab in Boston.

Nick: The town is created from a spell, they could easily write their way out of this situation by just placing a lab in town or there's kit at the the sheriff's station.

David's fugue state: is Regina behind it? Why was he wandering around in the forest?
Jim: David's memories for Storybrooke are still pretty new. I'm betting under stress he reverts to his previous memories and that causes some dysfunction. Though what he was searching for is beyond me, maybe he's searching for Grumpy's broken heart.

Christine: I was really lost on that one.  It was as though he was under some sort of spell.  I hope they give us some clues to it soon because I'm very curious.

Nick: I think everything at some point or another has some connection back to Regina, but I'm going to agree with Jim. I think David is reliving some of Charming's memories, even though he says "I have to find her" he could easily be talking about Snow and not Kathryn. Or he's relying on his Charming self, kind of like how Ruby relied on her wolf self, to try to find Kathryn, and that is causing him to fugue into Charming.


I'm a little slow with this kind of thing, I didn't really have my own theory about the heart. I tend to just read a selection of theories and decide which one I find most believable. I guess I understand how people think that the heart doesn't belong to Kathryn, but Storybrooke is full of unexpected events! Maybe they want you to think that, so that it will come as more of a shock when the heart is Kathryn's. This was my FAVOURITE Once Upon A Time Episode, it was amazing! I love Red's character as well as Ruby's. Greast twist too when *SPOILER ALERT* Red turned out to be the wolf! I predicted from pretty much the start that Peter would be the wolf. I thought it was one of those that the writers thought would be unexpected, but because I was expecting the unexpected, I predicted Peter. Especially with the footprints to the window. Even when the wolf was heading for Peter and he was calling her name, it didn't click in my head that she was the wolf! I thought he was calling for her to unchain him because he wasn't the wolf and the wolf was going to attack him. If you think about it, it was kind of a risk, because they only ASSUMED that he was the wolf, so if he wasn't they were basically just chaining him up so that he couldn't escaper if there WAS an attack. Anyways, I've blabbed enough. HUGE FAN OF THE SHOW. KEEP UP THE TWISTS, THEY'RE WHAT MAKE THIS SHOW THE BEST! Much love! xOXoxOXoxOXoxOXoxOX


I also think that Kathryn is still alive, Regina might want be ruthless but am not sure if killing her is really in her best interest. If it is Kathryn heart maybe it was replaced with the glowing ones Regina has.
I am hoping to see more of Rumplestiltskin and the Queen butting heads.
David's fugue states are Charming trying to get out and maybe Davids more aware of them because of the coma. His mind spent so much time in sleep that now its fighting to come back, and that gets me thinking about what Mr. Gold did to him when he gave him David's memories, that magic is maybe wearing off because of Mary Margaret.
Loved Ruby this week have been waiting for this story all season, maybe she has something similar to the cape in SB or just being out in the wood's tapped into it or it was the curse starting to break for her because she took control over her life.


The fingerprints are not Mary Margaret's they are Snow White's fingerprints. The same but not! Let's say the box was in Snow possession before she ran away from the Queen (or maybe the Queen stole it from her bedroom while searching for something) and she touched the interior of the box for some reason. If the town was stuck in time for 28 years, Snow's fingerprints, even if they were a couple of years old in FTL would still be fresh enough to be lifted by Emma or the CSI team.


I think that regina has all the hearts of everyone in storybrooke that maybe it was part of the curse and that is how she keeps everyone in town because of their link to their heart. mary's fingerprints were probably on it because snow probably opened the box before in their real world. so i am guessing we will see that play out soon in flashbacks.


Oh I believe that Regina does not have a heart, but that couldn't be it she would never risk her own mortality.
Regina needs to be put in her place, no one not even Regina can be everywhere at once.
No Katherine isn't dead, she could be in the hospital, or she could have "lost her memory"....who knows ?


- I don't believe so at all. I think Katherine is still alive.
- Her senses,heightened senses carried over but turning into a wolf.didn't. I love the twist to that story and loved the fact that the shoe is getting a bit darker.
- The crime solving limitations are suspect. Any time Emma claims to have gotten a call from the station I cant help but wonder who is at the station forwarding the calls? As far as we know she's the only officer in all the town. If they haven't explained that I doubt they'll explain lab stuff.Mary's prints should be required because shes a teacher.
-PTSD manifesting once again under extreme stress.


I think the heart in the box belongs to the Evil Queen. In this episode, Snow is on mission to assassinate the Queen. Let's say she somehow successfully "ripped" the Queen's heart and keep it buried in fairytale, then that will explain how the box got her fingerprints in Storybrooke. That's a theory I read around. It could not be Graham's and I refused to believe it's Kathryn's since that's a ridiculous way to write off a character.


Storybrooke reminds me of the Eagles song Hotel California, "you can check out any time you like but you can never leave."

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