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We get it, Ryan Murphy...you are "down" with the hot-button issues...but why are you turning Glee into a giant PSA?! The first season was witty, interesting and an interesting way to turn merge a TV show with a musical. Now, it's like every episode is attempting to have some kind of "groundbreaking" moment. And, apparently gone are the extended story arcs, huh? I like the Joe/Quinn chemistry (save for the "I'm a devout Christian but I could possibly give up my faith to have sex with you" thing)and thought their moments were sweet, if a bit out of the blue. I also didn't mind the Kurt and Blaine stuff, because that is actually something that could happen in HS if your bf/gf is a year older and going off to college. But they seemed perfectly happy last episode so where is that coming from?
The one thing that I DID really like about his episode was Darren Criss. He is truly talented!
I fully agree with your review. And, as a practicing Christian, "Joe's" character is insulting...I agree with the commenter (Matthew) that said "...it hurts to see a bunch of characters who call themselves Christian who routinely give up their faith and principles. It seems every demographic gets a fair portrayal except Christians, and I would rather them have no characters with that faith at all than to continue time and time to show believers who abandon their beliefs at the first opportunity." The entire conversation between "Sam" and "Joe" was an attempt for RM to explain to his Christian fan-base why it's okay for them to accept all his storylines.
The most atrocious thing of the night was not giving the only character to state her idol is Whitney a solo. Amber Riley has said that both in and out of the show.
Tina and Mercedes have wonderful soulful voices yet none of them got a solo last night. Glee is no longer about talent. They have lost my respect. They only like to give songs to Rachel/Fin, Kurt/Blaine, and even Brit/Santana.The show's main couples. Brittany can't even sing and yet she gets to sing more then Tina (who is played by Jenna a BROADWAY SINGER)
The one thing I did notice.. no Rory. I know he had a limited number of episodes.. but he was just.. gone. No goodbye, nothing. Is he really done?
I guess count me in the minority here. I enjoyed the episode. Not so much for the tribute to Whitney, but for the music & stories. So what if they wrapped up an entire cheating & making up in 1 episode. I still enjoyed it for what it was. I knew most of the songs, but I didn't know the one that Blaine sang when he'd been "cheated on", and I didn't know the song at the end where everyone slowly joined in. I cried at certain moment, laughed at others. Because you know what? In the end, it's a tv show meant for me to just.. enjoy. Last week however, I could barely sit thru the disco crap- the kids already made it clear last year, they HATE disco. Frankly, not a fan of it either. There was probably 1 song that didn't make me want to mute my tv last week.
The Joe/Quinn thing was never set up in "Heart", they simply met during a God Squad meeting. There wasn't nothing romantic at all about it.
I can't believe they used another love triangle to move along a storyline. Is it simply too hard for Glee to have Blaine and Kurt just talk it out without the random gay guy? "It's Not Right, It's Okay" was just hilarious. I laughed because there was no emotion in it. And then they had Blaine looking like a game show host standing in from of the rest of the cast. I thought it was a manip for a second. And Kurt who I think is a decent singer, butchered that song. Just butchered it. I can't even believe that Glee put that on TV.
That Joe/Sam scene was horrible. They pretty much butchered Sam's character. Sam has always been serious about his family and especially about his love for Mercedes. And now they have him giving out terrible Christian advice and saying he slept with someone while stripping.
The most atrocious thing of the night was
What's happening on Glee is typical of a show with an ensemble cast. And I think the writers are trying unsuccessfully to integrate all the characters into the show. So the storylines are short and tightm which ordinarily wouldn't matter if the music were any good. I did not like the ribute to Whitney because truthfully it wasn't necessary AND they just did an album the week before with Sat. Nite Fever. I htink the problem is there is no story arc for characters so they movie in and out of plots like subtext for a song. The storylines are good but they need a real beginning, middle and end that doesn't come and go in one episode after one song.
Thank you for acknowledging the "slap in the face" that I experience watching this show as a Christian. I don't expect the show to mirror my values, and there's a lot of stuff that doesn't mirror my values in a show like this, but that's okay; I watch it for the music, for the (at one point) somewhat realistic portrayal of high school. However, it hurts to see a bunch of characters who call themselves Christian who routinely give up their faith and principles. It seems every demographic gets a fair portrayal except Christians, and I would rather them have no characters with that faith at all than to continue time and time to show believers who abandon their beliefs at the first opportunity. Thanks for understanding and advocating.
Is it ever the same, no, but the overdramatization of the scene between Rachel/Santana and Kurt/Burt was plot filler and nothing more. A relationship only changes if the people involved make it so. Today's technology make it possible for communication to occur on a daily basis and almost make the nostalgic thought of a high school reunion irrelevant. If friendships are meant to last, you find a way to stay in touch and see one another when you can. As far as a father/son relationship, the only thing that changes is the fact that the son is moving out and growing up, but the bond between the two does not break unless communication and no desire to see one another occurs. This season is showing more and more of the writers not being in touch with their audience and merely putting out their own take on the world and their own viewpoints.
By writing these stories into a high school musical comedy drama show, you cannot just ignore what the writers are trying to do and say oh Glee is just supposed to be fun and imaginative. Simply put, for a show to be a continued success, you cannot constantly try to make attempts at heartfelt, gut-wrenching stories one minute/episode, and then in the next minute/episode have some type of goofy episode, aka Christmas special, and expect the show to last longer than these 4 years. Also, as an end note, the whole over dramatization of saying goodbye to one another as they gear up for graduation was so over the top. As a person who graduated high school a few years back, yea it is definitely different to not see the same people/friends that you have been used to seeing every day for the last 4 years, but they made it out to be like they will never see each other ever again. They still have the summer before going off to college, holiday breaks, and summer breaks.
I also completely agree with this review. The one constant that I see when people comment on Matt's reviews or anyone's reviews, but especially for Glee, they criticize him for critiquing the show's poor attempt over the last close to 2 seasons of good, logical plotlines and utilizing the music to help move the plot forward. I think people forget when they say to stop criticzing the Glee writers for "serious" storytelling when the audience should enjoy the fact that Glee is supposed to be a "fun, nonsensical, illogical, hour of entertainment." Well that would be fine to make that claim, BUT, Glee does not do that in any form or fashion. In fact, especially over the last year and a half, they moved past the wacky and whimsical and moved into more drama and serious overtones, i.e., bullying, teen suicide, teen pregnancy, religious issues, gender issues, sexuality issues, PSA after PSA, etc.
I think the review is spot on. This episode reached a new low for glee. I actually laughed out loud when Mr. Shu admitted that he was afraid his students wouldn't come to his wedding in November.
Like you Matt, I went into this show knowing I wouldn't like it since it was a one-artist tribute. At least it didn't disappoint in that respect.
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Matt, I more with you than against you this time. The tribute shows have been very disappointing. I liked a few WH songs, but certainly not all of them. After a while they became monotonous and monotone-ish. A full hour of them had me watching a moth flutter around the lamp instead of the show.
The Brittany/Santana number was quite good, high production values, shiny, hot. The standing in front of everyone singing and having the rest of the cast feign oohs, ahs and knowing looks, not so much.
It was good to hear Kurt get a full solo again though, stretch his octaves, but the song itself was forgettable.
I was a Glee-Project fan myself and remember Ryan grasping at 'Joe's' Christianity. Ryan saw it as a quaint, peculiar and interesting novelty that he could 'write to.' This episode proved him wrong.
It was as if the writers had never actually known a "Christian", but this was what they presumed they are like. (Fail)
Like you Matt, I went into this show knowing I wouldn't like i
Matt, you're always spot-on with your reviews. Harsh? Not at all. Truthful.
Glee has gone from being a good show in season one to a truly abysmal show in its third season. Nothing makes sense in the plot/writing any longer, and the musical numbers are starting to follow that lead. 50% is an idyllic fantasy of the perfect gay high school experience, and 50% is the insane fever dream of an aging and bitter drag queen. Mr. Schue has been destroyed as a character, such that he's no longer even a teacher but a creepy stalker. The suddenness of deep emotions totally reversing (in all characters), and random throw-in plot fragments, is no longer quirky but simply annoying. I'm still incensed over Santana's sex tape being a throwaway joke.
I really, really need more than however many characters we get here to even begin to say all of the things I want to say about this episode.
1) I think the Joe/Quinn thing was set up as good as it could be knowing he only has 5 or 7 episodes. However, I hate that they are basically using him as a Christian stereotype but that's because I watched The Glee Project and saw him latch on to that essentially to win the competition. He was the second choice for this character after the first crapped out over some on-screen flirting.
2) I wish they'd just lined up the cast and let them sing for an hour without any attempt at developing the plot because what they gave us were just sad attempts at moving the story along.
3) Will is trapped in high school. When he's in scenes with Emma discussing their future, he acts like a petulant child and I want to slap him.
This episode was okay I liked the songs blaine, and brittana was great.
People actually think the whole Quinn/Joe thing was rushed? This storyline was established way back in the Valentine's Day episode when he was introduced. It was clear from the second she spoke to him that there was something there. Sure, it may not have been fully developed, but it wasn't out of nowhere. As for the review itself, there's a difference between being critical and complaining, and this one seems to be more of the latter, but it's not like this site has real critics to begin with.
i am not sure whether i liked or hated this ep. it wasn't my fav but i wasn't "ABHORRED" by it either. one thing i did hate though. when Blaine was singing "It's not alright but it's okay" those dancers in black looked like cop strippers. i kept expecting them to dance their way to a pole and start doing what they usually do on their day jobs before Ryan Merphy borrowed them from the nearby strip joint, which is rip their clothes off and strip.
i liked Rachel in this ep though. she didn't come off as false at all. and i really liked Joe, just wish his story lines was better. i want this kid to really be part of the major plots. he has got potential.
I am getting really annoyed by Glee. I used to love it but this season just point blank sucks. This was probably my worst episode ever. They started with a song that did not make sense or have any context and the rest of the episode didn't either. Moreover I think most of the songs were terrible, especially Dance with somebody.
Mr. Shue has ALWAYS been creepy and inappropriate! He was creepy and inappropriate in the pilot! Guy has no life other than the Glee kids, never has.
I remember when I first started watching the show, I was creeped out by Shue (also the rest of the faculty, actually) but then I got caught up in the Kurt & Burt Hummel storyline and frankly, that's what has kept me watching the show. Some of the other young performers are really quite good, and as for the writing -- well, it's TV, and it's Fox, and it's what it is.
As for "disrespecting Whitney" -- I thought it offered an interesting angle on why it is that people get so upset over the deaths of celebrities that they do not know.
If you don't like it, don't watch. If enough people don't watch, it will go away. That's how TV works.
Agree with every word from the review. I loved glee with all my heart but it jumped the shark ages ago and it's getting worse and worse. Hang in there, Matt. Don't let people influence your Point of View.
did anyone else notice that they had two songs right next to each other... no time in between or any dialogue.
this is a T show, not a fucking singing competition
I am obviously a minority here but I REALLY enjoyed that episode... it's a show about singing musical numbers... good god stop watching if you think that it is suddenly be though-provoking and deep... it's fluffy, fun, and illogical most of the time... i love it!
I don't know why anyone is surprised by having a character introduced and immediately falling for quinn. They did the same thing with sam.
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