@zoran: thanks for this wise words:-)))) yeah i think by rufly they only need a kiss and everything.. but the first step for this, that should do lily! i dont like what they do with her at moment. i wanna my season one and two back.. at end i hope they go back rufly, chair, dan and serena and NJBC and friendship and family which are not based on lies and more.
and yeah if bart is comming, rufus will find out that his marriage with lily is not legal. so they can not get a divorce there. they are not really married. and that is the reason for bart lol..
ggvd
April 24th, 2012 2:00 PM
I just don't get serena, she irritates the sh*t out of me!! so selfish just like her mother, What did Lola do to serena to be treated like that?? It's not her fault that their dad wants to be with Lola and get to know her, serena shouldn't take it out on her but on william!! Lola kept serena's secret, and lost Nate in return of that and Serena doesn't even feel guilty because she's so selfish!! I would gladly see serena leaving the show, btw when will it finally come out that she's GG??? can't wait for that to happen!! love Dair though, I think it's great to see a relationship like that, I've been through a chair relationship, and let me tell you something it never ends well, just because you love someone that much doesn't mean you are meant to be together, if the person you love does such things to you it's better to leave him and try to be happy with someone else!!
Zoran
April 24th, 2012 1:57 PM
@Brian
Dan and Blair are not boring, they are simply stupidity! They have chemistry with each other as a couple of 70 years. And the man who as you say deserves to be with Blair, can with her to have sex only with a barrel of whiskey and vodka! A great couple. You know as I call them - friends without sex?
Zoran
April 24th, 2012 1:46 PM
Lily and Rufus are the destiny each other, it is enough to kiss and to then reconcile. There will be no a divorce, because if Bart is alive, the marriage between Lily and Rufus is not valid! And that leads to Serena and Dan back to each other!
Zoran
April 24th, 2012 1:45 PM
@ms.m
About this then we will see what will happen in season 6, first wait to finish this. So again, the fan of Dan and Blair began to talk nonsense! Ivy is a crook and deserved what she got it. Lily defends his family and of course his money because this is still UES. As for Ben, Lily, has paid for that mistake enough - she was under house arrest. I love the fan of Dan and Blair when think they are too smart, and mentioned a scene from season 2 when Lily gave Serena to arrested. And do not explain why it did Lily. Serena ended up in jail because she refused to obey her mother. And it all happens because of the beautiful con man, who was a lover of Serena, who was looted Lily and her friends and Rufus too. If the fraud became known Lily (Chuck) companie would no longer be safe for investment. So Lily sent Serena to prison, and her knight in shining armor - Dan, broke free and took Serena to the graduation party! Lily and Rufus are the destiny each other, it is enough to kiss
Brian
April 24th, 2012 1:30 PM
Brilliant recap Steve, don't listen to all the crazy girls rant!
"Dair is boring","they don't have chemistry" yada yada yada.
I have sit through this angst-love-crap-epic my ass back and forth f***** up relationship that is Chuck and Blair aka Chair for years now, and finally Blair has found a real man that is there by her side. You know a man that can actually apologies in the same episode and not wait like 4,5 seasons to finally do it.
ms.m
April 24th, 2012 1:23 PM
cont.
-i like Lola, William, and surprisingly Ivy after this episode. i despise Lily and Serena (though i feel sympathy for S) Jury's still out on Carole. kinda see why she wanted to keep Lola away. Lola is a nice well meaning girl contrasted to Serena who is spoiled, manipulative, and now bitter.
-after this episode the 'writing is on the wall' in terms of Dair. the writers are giving Dair everything they didn't give Chair. and that can't be easy for Chair fans. if they were going to do this, i wish the writers would've given Chair a wedding/baby in S4, instead of doing the story with Louis. Chair could've had their version of an endgame...it not working out, and the go their separate ways. stringing a fan base along is just not cool.
nettylein
April 24th, 2012 1:20 PM
i dont like this lily!!!
Fabricio
April 24th, 2012 1:17 PM
I love this episode.. it's not about love triangles and teams (I'm tired of Dair, Chair teams). it's about money, family and reputation. Bring back more of these storylines.
Zoran
April 24th, 2012 1:15 PM
@Elle
Chuck and Blair were together in season 4, you are confused. Remember the famous scene when Chuck and Blair are in bed and Serena enters the room and sits on the bed, not realizing what was happening beneath the duvet.
Jenny
April 24th, 2012 1:06 PM
Dair the best as Always!
ms.m
April 24th, 2012 1:06 PM
cont.
-Lily refusing to 'love' Ivy. that will come back and bite her in the arse. my bet is next season Ivy will prove the nurse was 'paid off' and get her inheritance back. i hope the series finale is Serena and Lily being penniless for good and relying on others to show them kindness. even if you don't like Ivy, Lily's actions, and Serena's acceptance of them: sending Ben to prison over untrue allegations, accusing her own daughter (Serena) of stealing a bracelet, paying off a nurse to invalidate the will...by almost anyone's standards are considered 'bad' actions. we're not supposed to be rooting for these people who break/bend the law to serve their own purposes aka money. Rufus is starting to see this 'dark' side of Lily. and i am rooting for a divorce here.
Zoran
April 24th, 2012 1:05 PM
@Elisa
I see you are very angry, and I do not reproach to you. As usual you are totally right. I am angry too, so much nonsense I read today that it is incredible. As if people who write here do not watch the series from the beginning. More, I can not remember who, but someone today wrote that the majority of those who cheer for Dan and Blair watch a series of 4 or 5 season. And it is completely right. So illogical nonsense ... Good you are pointed out the script writers. But what is worth, all this season most of us nothing but criticize the writers. It is simply not conceivable how transparently copied from last seasons into this season, and how cheaply changing of the characters. If someone is now watching the 1 season and immediately went to watch the season 5, he would say that these are two different series, but with the same actors.
Elle
April 24th, 2012 1:04 PM
Dair is so boring.. No chemistry. Blair is not the person i used to love. I feel really sorry for Serena, poor girl. Bring back Chair! i dont know why but why cant they just be together for good? Gosh, last time they were official was in season 3! Why is there the need to put forced road blocks every time they start to get together again!? So annoying.
Jeca Rank: Recurring Character
April 24th, 2012 1:01 PM
i have to give some credit,i like this episode, all lies oout,bitternes at high,money matters more that anything, and the best part was locations,that location were serena sees her dad and lola and the scene were she leaves william on 5 av,with the light cars behind her, beautiful ...and the "court" location........ one good episode of 21 in terms of image and drama...except dair, boring, since when dan is so freaking boring?
ms.m
April 24th, 2012 12:56 PM
without addressing Dair/Chair BS...my thoughts on the episode:
-a lot of this episode was contrived BUT i was relieved and entertained by the VDW dinner party from hell. happy the Lola/Carole/William secret came out. it was addressed in a scandalous UES fashion by Lily.
-i *did* feel sympathy for Serena, finally. the core of who she is, why she sleeps around so much, falls in and out of love so quickly stems from her daddy abandonment issues. she confronted William. it took the Lola reveal for it to happen, but it was a long time coming.
-Diane/Chuck/Nate/Jack stuff is very entertaining as well. it's a wild goose chase that's keeping Chuck/Nate distracted from the real truth. what that is, we'll find out soon enough.
Jeca Rank: Recurring Character
April 24th, 2012 12:54 PM
elisa has a lot to say,
i say dont look at gg as normal human behavor,is the complain that comes up again and again, this characters dont do what normal people would do,but if we enter in psycology, maybe blair shut down chuck of her life, because, he is ready, ready to be a great man to be with, she isnt, she is in the same position,the shadow of someone,plus a divorce ex-royal and used girl,which to her is even lower,people run from what they aspire when comes in a not expected time,so she ran to dan, because she knows it wont be like what could have with chuck, all the dreams she could have with him,she isnt ready for all that,so she hides and blocks everything and everyone .
Anna
April 24th, 2012 12:35 PM
so sick of lily and serena. hope ivy and lola get the better of them. and dair is so boring, forget it blair, you are over.
Elisa
April 24th, 2012 12:17 PM
Ok, I promise I finished.
After reading all of this (sorry if it was messy or too long), do you still think that Chuck hasn't suffered enough and that Blair grew up instead of actually regressing? Aren't you mad because the writers screwed everything up? If you do and if you aren't, I really don't know what to think...
I know I'm taking it too seriously, but I really can't stand the fact that Chuck has always to be seen as the bad guy and that Blair, since she's having a relationship with Dan, is a much better person...
Except for that, I'm quite hopeful that everything will change, so I guess it's just temporary rage...
Elisa
April 24th, 2012 12:11 PM
Sorry, but it still continues...
Chuck has some problems with his mom, so he goes to Blair to ask for some advice selflessly, but she rejects him because she thinks he has something in mind. In the same episode, we find out that Chuck actually paid the dowry and, after knowing that, Blair "scolds" him. The thing that upsets her is that she isn't used to seeing Chuck selfless (but didn't she realize before that he was changed?!? Yet again, simply inconsistent). Blair is also ungrateful by thanking him with just a text.
In the last episode, Chuck finds out that his real mother is Diana, but where is Blair? Where is the Blair that, in season 2 promised him that she will stand by him through anything? And the one that in season 3 said that she was his family? I don't know about you, but I didn't see her.
Elisa
April 24th, 2012 12:09 PM
Continues...
the dark side. After that Chuck says that she was actually the brightest thing that ever happened to him.
On Blair's wedding day, she says to Chuck that she is in love with him "more and more everyday, if it's even possible to love someone that much", but she still wants to marry Louis. After the video leaked, Blair is still decided to marry Louis because of the pact with God. Here again, another punch in the stomach for Chuck and a huge "wth?!?".
After she runs away, Chuck finds her and says that he is willing to do anything in his power to set her free from this marriage, but she refuses because they wouldn't be equals, if he paid the dowry. Another punch for Chuck.
A few episodes later, Blair realizes she has "feelings" for Dan and, even though she still loves Chuck, at the moment she isn't in love with him. Two punches in the stomach and a super huge "wth?!?".
Elisa
April 24th, 2012 12:06 PM
Oh, and I just want to make you realise that Chuck has suffered and paid for everything he did this season and that Blair is being inconsistent. And I have plenty of arguments.
Chuck is so devastated by Blair's marriage that he can't feel anything anymore.
Chuck finds out that Blair is pregnant, but she tells him that despite her wanting it to be his, the baby was Louis'. Punch in the stomach.
Chuck apologizes for everything he did to her (even the whole hotel thing).
Blair, after seeing htat Chuck is being good to her this whole time, goes to him and says: "you've been really good this whole time, haven't you?" (so, she is inconsistent when in 5x19 she isn't used to seeing Chuck good, since she realized it herself in 5x08).
Blair goes with Chuck to the therapist, who actually makes her realize even more that Chuck has changed for good.
Blair realizes that, despite initially thinking that it was Chuck that brought her to the dark side, it was actually her that brought him to th
Dair were amazing last night. Wish that the writers would give them a bit more screen time though. A lot of naysayers are accepting them now and some more focus on their relationship might just convince some fence sitters.
Great review by the way.
ceicei
April 24th, 2012 12:05 PM
anybody know the titles of the songs in s5 e21 ?
Dori
April 24th, 2012 11:41 AM
It's called a safe. Or a real doorman. Or a password on your iPhone. Or your pocket.
Serena: Congratulations, you've officially joined the dark side.
Rank: Leading Character
April 24th, 2012 2:00 PM
@zoran: thanks for this wise words:-)))) yeah i think by rufly they only need a kiss and everything.. but the first step for this, that should do lily! i dont like what they do with her at moment. i wanna my season one and two back.. at end i hope they go back rufly, chair, dan and serena and NJBC and friendship and family which are not based on lies and more.
and yeah if bart is comming, rufus will find out that his marriage with lily is not legal. so they can not get a divorce there. they are not really married. and that is the reason for bart lol..
April 24th, 2012 2:00 PM
I just don't get serena, she irritates the sh*t out of me!! so selfish just like her mother, What did Lola do to serena to be treated like that?? It's not her fault that their dad wants to be with Lola and get to know her, serena shouldn't take it out on her but on william!! Lola kept serena's secret, and lost Nate in return of that and Serena doesn't even feel guilty because she's so selfish!! I would gladly see serena leaving the show, btw when will it finally come out that she's GG??? can't wait for that to happen!! love Dair though, I think it's great to see a relationship like that, I've been through a chair relationship, and let me tell you something it never ends well, just because you love someone that much doesn't mean you are meant to be together, if the person you love does such things to you it's better to leave him and try to be happy with someone else!!
April 24th, 2012 1:57 PM
@Brian
Dan and Blair are not boring, they are simply stupidity! They have chemistry with each other as a couple of 70 years. And the man who as you say deserves to be with Blair, can with her to have sex only with a barrel of whiskey and vodka! A great couple. You know as I call them - friends without sex?
April 24th, 2012 1:46 PM
Lily and Rufus are the destiny each other, it is enough to kiss and to then reconcile. There will be no a divorce, because if Bart is alive, the marriage between Lily and Rufus is not valid! And that leads to Serena and Dan back to each other!
April 24th, 2012 1:45 PM
@ms.m
About this then we will see what will happen in season 6, first wait to finish this. So again, the fan of Dan and Blair began to talk nonsense! Ivy is a crook and deserved what she got it. Lily defends his family and of course his money because this is still UES. As for Ben, Lily, has paid for that mistake enough - she was under house arrest. I love the fan of Dan and Blair when think they are too smart, and mentioned a scene from season 2 when Lily gave Serena to arrested. And do not explain why it did Lily. Serena ended up in jail because she refused to obey her mother. And it all happens because of the beautiful con man, who was a lover of Serena, who was looted Lily and her friends and Rufus too. If the fraud became known Lily (Chuck) companie would no longer be safe for investment. So Lily sent Serena to prison, and her knight in shining armor - Dan, broke free and took Serena to the graduation party! Lily and Rufus are the destiny each other, it is enough to kiss
April 24th, 2012 1:30 PM
Brilliant recap Steve, don't listen to all the crazy girls rant!
"Dair is boring","they don't have chemistry" yada yada yada.
I have sit through this angst-love-crap-epic my ass back and forth f***** up relationship that is Chuck and Blair aka Chair for years now, and finally Blair has found a real man that is there by her side. You know a man that can actually apologies in the same episode and not wait like 4,5 seasons to finally do it.
April 24th, 2012 1:23 PM
cont.
-i like Lola, William, and surprisingly Ivy after this episode. i despise Lily and Serena (though i feel sympathy for S) Jury's still out on Carole. kinda see why she wanted to keep Lola away. Lola is a nice well meaning girl contrasted to Serena who is spoiled, manipulative, and now bitter.
-after this episode the 'writing is on the wall' in terms of Dair. the writers are giving Dair everything they didn't give Chair. and that can't be easy for Chair fans. if they were going to do this, i wish the writers would've given Chair a wedding/baby in S4, instead of doing the story with Louis. Chair could've had their version of an endgame...it not working out, and the go their separate ways. stringing a fan base along is just not cool.
April 24th, 2012 1:20 PM
i dont like this lily!!!
April 24th, 2012 1:17 PM
I love this episode.. it's not about love triangles and teams (I'm tired of Dair, Chair teams). it's about money, family and reputation. Bring back more of these storylines.
April 24th, 2012 1:15 PM
@Elle
Chuck and Blair were together in season 4, you are confused. Remember the famous scene when Chuck and Blair are in bed and Serena enters the room and sits on the bed, not realizing what was happening beneath the duvet.
April 24th, 2012 1:06 PM
Dair the best as Always!
April 24th, 2012 1:06 PM
cont.
-Lily refusing to 'love' Ivy. that will come back and bite her in the arse. my bet is next season Ivy will prove the nurse was 'paid off' and get her inheritance back. i hope the series finale is Serena and Lily being penniless for good and relying on others to show them kindness. even if you don't like Ivy, Lily's actions, and Serena's acceptance of them: sending Ben to prison over untrue allegations, accusing her own daughter (Serena) of stealing a bracelet, paying off a nurse to invalidate the will...by almost anyone's standards are considered 'bad' actions. we're not supposed to be rooting for these people who break/bend the law to serve their own purposes aka money. Rufus is starting to see this 'dark' side of Lily. and i am rooting for a divorce here.
April 24th, 2012 1:05 PM
@Elisa
I see you are very angry, and I do not reproach to you. As usual you are totally right. I am angry too, so much nonsense I read today that it is incredible. As if people who write here do not watch the series from the beginning. More, I can not remember who, but someone today wrote that the majority of those who cheer for Dan and Blair watch a series of 4 or 5 season. And it is completely right. So illogical nonsense ... Good you are pointed out the script writers. But what is worth, all this season most of us nothing but criticize the writers. It is simply not conceivable how transparently copied from last seasons into this season, and how cheaply changing of the characters. If someone is now watching the 1 season and immediately went to watch the season 5, he would say that these are two different series, but with the same actors.
April 24th, 2012 1:04 PM
Dair is so boring.. No chemistry. Blair is not the person i used to love. I feel really sorry for Serena, poor girl. Bring back Chair! i dont know why but why cant they just be together for good? Gosh, last time they were official was in season 3! Why is there the need to put forced road blocks every time they start to get together again!? So annoying.
Rank: Recurring Character
April 24th, 2012 1:01 PM
i have to give some credit,i like this episode, all lies oout,bitternes at high,money matters more that anything, and the best part was locations,that location were serena sees her dad and lola and the scene were she leaves william on 5 av,with the light cars behind her, beautiful ...and the "court" location........ one good episode of 21 in terms of image and drama...except dair, boring, since when dan is so freaking boring?
April 24th, 2012 12:56 PM
without addressing Dair/Chair BS...my thoughts on the episode:
-a lot of this episode was contrived BUT i was relieved and entertained by the VDW dinner party from hell. happy the Lola/Carole/William secret came out. it was addressed in a scandalous UES fashion by Lily.
-i *did* feel sympathy for Serena, finally. the core of who she is, why she sleeps around so much, falls in and out of love so quickly stems from her daddy abandonment issues. she confronted William. it took the Lola reveal for it to happen, but it was a long time coming.
-Diane/Chuck/Nate/Jack stuff is very entertaining as well. it's a wild goose chase that's keeping Chuck/Nate distracted from the real truth. what that is, we'll find out soon enough.
Rank: Recurring Character
April 24th, 2012 12:54 PM
elisa has a lot to say,
i say dont look at gg as normal human behavor,is the complain that comes up again and again, this characters dont do what normal people would do,but if we enter in psycology, maybe blair shut down chuck of her life, because, he is ready, ready to be a great man to be with, she isnt, she is in the same position,the shadow of someone,plus a divorce ex-royal and used girl,which to her is even lower,people run from what they aspire when comes in a not expected time,so she ran to dan, because she knows it wont be like what could have with chuck, all the dreams she could have with him,she isnt ready for all that,so she hides and blocks everything and everyone .
April 24th, 2012 12:35 PM
so sick of lily and serena. hope ivy and lola get the better of them. and dair is so boring, forget it blair, you are over.
April 24th, 2012 12:17 PM
Ok, I promise I finished.
After reading all of this (sorry if it was messy or too long), do you still think that Chuck hasn't suffered enough and that Blair grew up instead of actually regressing? Aren't you mad because the writers screwed everything up? If you do and if you aren't, I really don't know what to think...
I know I'm taking it too seriously, but I really can't stand the fact that Chuck has always to be seen as the bad guy and that Blair, since she's having a relationship with Dan, is a much better person...
Except for that, I'm quite hopeful that everything will change, so I guess it's just temporary rage...
April 24th, 2012 12:11 PM
Sorry, but it still continues...
Chuck has some problems with his mom, so he goes to Blair to ask for some advice selflessly, but she rejects him because she thinks he has something in mind. In the same episode, we find out that Chuck actually paid the dowry and, after knowing that, Blair "scolds" him. The thing that upsets her is that she isn't used to seeing Chuck selfless (but didn't she realize before that he was changed?!? Yet again, simply inconsistent). Blair is also ungrateful by thanking him with just a text.
In the last episode, Chuck finds out that his real mother is Diana, but where is Blair? Where is the Blair that, in season 2 promised him that she will stand by him through anything? And the one that in season 3 said that she was his family? I don't know about you, but I didn't see her.
April 24th, 2012 12:09 PM
Continues...
the dark side. After that Chuck says that she was actually the brightest thing that ever happened to him.
On Blair's wedding day, she says to Chuck that she is in love with him "more and more everyday, if it's even possible to love someone that much", but she still wants to marry Louis. After the video leaked, Blair is still decided to marry Louis because of the pact with God. Here again, another punch in the stomach for Chuck and a huge "wth?!?".
After she runs away, Chuck finds her and says that he is willing to do anything in his power to set her free from this marriage, but she refuses because they wouldn't be equals, if he paid the dowry. Another punch for Chuck.
A few episodes later, Blair realizes she has "feelings" for Dan and, even though she still loves Chuck, at the moment she isn't in love with him. Two punches in the stomach and a super huge "wth?!?".
April 24th, 2012 12:06 PM
Oh, and I just want to make you realise that Chuck has suffered and paid for everything he did this season and that Blair is being inconsistent. And I have plenty of arguments.
Chuck is so devastated by Blair's marriage that he can't feel anything anymore.
Chuck finds out that Blair is pregnant, but she tells him that despite her wanting it to be his, the baby was Louis'. Punch in the stomach.
Chuck apologizes for everything he did to her (even the whole hotel thing).
Blair, after seeing htat Chuck is being good to her this whole time, goes to him and says: "you've been really good this whole time, haven't you?" (so, she is inconsistent when in 5x19 she isn't used to seeing Chuck good, since she realized it herself in 5x08).
Blair goes with Chuck to the therapist, who actually makes her realize even more that Chuck has changed for good.
Blair realizes that, despite initially thinking that it was Chuck that brought her to the dark side, it was actually her that brought him to th
Rank: Guest Star
April 24th, 2012 12:05 PM
Dair were amazing last night. Wish that the writers would give them a bit more screen time though. A lot of naysayers are accepting them now and some more focus on their relationship might just convince some fence sitters.
Great review by the way.
April 24th, 2012 12:05 PM
anybody know the titles of the songs in s5 e21 ?
April 24th, 2012 11:41 AM
It's called a safe. Or a real doorman. Or a password on your iPhone. Or your pocket.
Way to go! Fantastic line.