Gossip Girl Round Table: "Despicable B"

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Welcome to our weekly Gossip Girl Round Table discussion! Below, our panelists are here to break down Monday's episode (see our official Gossip Girl review from last night) in even greater detail.

In a Q&A session below, TVF CEO Eric Hochberger (Gossip Guy) editor Steve Marsi (Mister Meester) and staff writers Courtney Morrison, Christina Tran and Leigh Raines to discuss "Despicable B."

Weigh in with your take on the following topics after reading ours!

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1. What was your favorite quote or scene from the episode?

Courtney: Even though it was super obvious what Nate was up to when Diana walked in, I'm going with their bedroom scene. Nate in a suit is hot. Nate taking off his suit is even hotter.

Leigh: Courtney is tempting me to change my answer to Nate taking off his suit... but I'm still gonna go with the whole Lily VDW dinner takedown. Hell hath no fury like a Rhodes girl scorned, lied to, cheated, frauded, etc.

Christina: William: “Hello, sweetheart, you’re looking lovely as ever.” Serena: “Oh, thank you, I get it from my mom.” Oh, snap! As always, so subtle, S.

Eric: Lily's dinner party. I don't care how cheesy it was with people popping out from rooms, it felt very Gossip Girl.

Steve: It was never spoken, only printed: New York Magazine's hilarious (and accurate) zinger likening B to Kim Kardashian at the bottom of the Approval Matrix. 

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2. Who were the most high- and low-brow characters of the week?

Courtney: Most High Brow: Rufus. It's about time the lead singer/guitarist from Lincoln Hawk takes a stand. He is not just a trophy husband and he doesn't need an UES woman to take care of him. Most Low Brow: Blair. Even if she redeemed herself at the end of the hour with Dan, the whole episode did not feel like her. It was actually kind of beneath her.

Leigh: Uh I suppose Dan would be in the high brow category if he had that kind of literary success at age 21. Was Blair's marriage shorter than Kim Kardashian's? I don't know but at least Kim still entertains me. Blair that is the ultimate diss.

Christina: Most high-brow: N/A. Most low brow: B. New York Magazine got it right.

Eric: High Brow: In this episode that's nearly impossible. By default it has to go to my solid as a rock Rufus. Dude didn't put anyone in jail and is willing to walk away from the UES $$$. (I assume Lily like a true Rhodes has an iron clad prenup in place) Low Brow: How is this even a choice with Lily on super evil mastermind mode? When did she go from manipulative mom protecting her children to evil super villain? 

Steve: High Brow: William. Sure he's a philandering liar who can't be trusted, but you got the feeling that he was really trying to do right by his kids and baby mamas this week, even if the circumstances made that impossible. Low Brow: Lily. There's materialism and vanity and then there's her. What an incredible display.

3. Who is more lost these days, Blair or Serena?

Courtney: Do I have to choose? Blair has jumped from one serious relationship to the next, one even ending in divorce. She is 22!!! Serena has had multiple jobs and has even resorted to being GG. Neither of them have jobs or college. They are both lacking in the friend department. At least Blair has Dan, Serena has pretty much no one. No wonder they are both so lost...

Leigh: Blair is. She even told Dan as much. Serena is actually guarded and not trusting everyone she meets for the first time in her life. Even if she's a bitch, after all she's been through over four seasons, she kinda deserves to be.

Christina: Blair has Dan and they should just go get lost together. Serena’s just not the same anymore. She’s job-less, boyfriend-less, and even cousin-less now. IT Girl no more, for sure.

Eric: S. She's really quick to judge Lola for failing to out her as Gossip Girl... after the terrible stuff she did to her own sister as Gossip Girl! Sorry, half sister. You might want to have some friends around S. B at least will always have her Double Ds. (Dortota and Dan you perverts).

Steve: Blair in the emotional sense. She's unrecognizable to herself and fans, which she finally realized this week. Serena also wins, however, in the sense of being abandoned by the writing staff for months.

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4. Dair: Boring or refreshing?

Courtney: They started as refreshing, now we're entering the boring territory. Seriously, a salon? PS. Can I just mention that if this party was in Dan's honor, didn't anyone in his family think it was important? How about his friends?

Leigh: Not that I was ever a Dair fan, but I kinda feel bad for Dan at this point. He seems to genuinely love Blair and she seems to be lost and leaning on the guy who can give her the most attention and TLC.

Christina: Snoozefest! Gone were the days when I watched every scene with B intently. Now, I’m still watching, but only casually as I’m playing Draw Something or Scramble.

Eric: Despite finding it refreshing they're a pretty low drama couple on GG, they're kind of turning into a yawn fest for me. Feel free to send me a Draw Something challenge, Christina. I need the points for some new colors more than another Dair scene.

Steve: I enjoy Dan and Blair's relationship, but I worry about the same thing Leigh summed up so well. When B does find herself, will Dan have the same appeal he does now? I hope so, but I have my doubts.

5. In honor of the show's only non-miserable character, discuss the awesomeness of Nate.

Courtney: Nate is completely awesome. For one, he has hooked up with pretty much, if not every, girl on the show. He wears a suit as well as the Basshole, is a great friend, and is loyal. I was skeptical about the Spectator storyline in the beginning, now it's become my favorite part of recent episodes.

Leigh: I mean... just look at him. He's sexy and he knows it.

Christina: Nate is total awesomeness. Editor by day, sleuth/prostitute by night. However, it’s become clear you should never tell Nate a secret because he will immediately tell the wrong person every single time.

Eric: So awesome he's willing to make the ultimate sacrifice: sleep with Diana / Elizabeth Hurley for his BFF. If that's not friendship, I don't know what is. Poor guy...

Steve: He may be a terrible secret-keeper, as Christina says, but Nate's been killing it lately with his suits, ties, morals and sexual mind games. I mean, the guy had to think this week! On his feet!

6. Dumbest move of the night: Ivy ripping up that check, Serena leaving Gossip Girl's server info out in the open, or Diana actually believing Nate broke into her apartment to seduce her?

Courtney: Ivy ripping up the check. I get it, she wants a family. But you can't have a family with people who don't want you. She could have used that money to start over! I wasn't really surprised at the other two.

Leigh: Ivy ripping up the check. That was just petulant and not a smart business decision young lady. I'm sorry a bunch of people you were paid to bond with don't want to hang out with you anymore, but they gave you a seven-figure severance so take it.

Christina: That was just so Serena! Diana is a cougar on the prowl. As for Ivy, seriously?! Idiot move.

Eric: I really, really want to take the computer bait, but there's a million reasons I need to yell at Chivy. Yeah, I'm that angry I'm bringing back the nickname. Girl you can go buy a new family with that money. You can start with me 'sis, so let's go grab that tape.

Steve: Fine Eric. I'll go there. The server. If she knows she's the only person with access to GG's site and how valuable that is, why leave it anywhere someone can gank it and steal her GG mantle? Never mind the fact that people not named Lola might also piece together that SERENA IS GOSSIP GIRL. 

Diana and Chuck

7. Is Jack really Chuck's father? If so, what's his angle for screwing him over all these years?

Courtney: I think he is, but I honestly have no idea why he would have screwed him over so many times. Maybe it has something to do with Bart? Maybe Bart took Chuck from Jack because he was a bad father? Regardless, the Basses are one hot bloodline.

Leigh: Chuck's maternity and paternity needs to be moved to the Maury show because I honestly cannot keep track. If Jack is his father and has been acting like a dick all of these years, it's because he slept with Bart's wife and Bart punished him by either pretending Chuck was his, or telling Jack this kid can never know you're his real father and I'm going to raise him.

Christina: I’m still not sure. If so, let’s not forget Jack also slept with Blair… will that be too weird for the someday reunion of Chair? Hey, a girl can and still should hope.

Eric: You kidding me? The second I saw that 'tat I knew who Chuck's pops was. The real question is why the heck Elizabeth is emailing Nate. Who isn't sleeping with that guy? 

Steve: It would make sense, in a twisted way, if Jack and Elizabeth were Chuck's real parents. Resentment at Bart as a motive for tormenting him all this time? I can buy that too. Why Diana would lie, and why she's even hanging around, is a different story. Will we ever find out? More importantly, do we care?

What do you think? Sound off in the comments!

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@ pty agree with you. Excellent comparison with the good old Dallas. Younger audiences do not know what the characters were in that time. Lily is not to the knees to J.R. And not to mention the Dynasty and famous Alexis. Younger audiences know her from the commercials for Snickers (FILM DIVA). It is interesting that English actors are great in U.S. series - Alexis, Dr. House, Chuck!

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Unfortunately when it comes to Serena, with each new episode bad news for her. After all that she was experienced, now her father abandon her completely. Really it should be applauded that so far Serena has not gone insane. Leaving his father and walked down the street, but unfortunately this time there is no stupid Dan to give her a shoulder to cry on. He still runs around Blair like a stupid dog!

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Now a little contrasts of me. In this episode, Lily was the best. Finally she showed how to fight independent woman. Perhaps to most looks like a bitch, but what you expect. Lily has not acquired a fortune as a nice and innocent women. Excellently take care fraud Ivy, and then her stupid sister. Still remained William! Carol had to suffer that legacy, by Lily regained, become legitimate. Lily made a deal with Ivy, but as usual Ivy dropped at the end of a complete fool. Tore the check for a million $. Rufus is still lost, as if dropped from the sky. Rufus knows well what kind of Lily is, and all this should not surprise him. If Rufus love Lily then he should forgive her - love conquers all! Although I think that's enough for them to kiss and they reconcile! Unfortunately when it comes to Serena, with each new episode bad news for her. After all that she was experienced, now her father abandon her completely. Really it should be applauded that so far Serena has not gone insane. Leaving his father and walked down the street, but unfortunately this time there is no stupid Dan to give her a shoulder to cry on. He still runs around Blair like a stupid dog!

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People complaint about Chuck's behaviour all the time but there have been worst characters in TV before. Example, J.R. Ewing in Dallas: SUE-ELLEN: "Which slut are you sleeping with tonight?" J.R: "Does it matter? Whoever she is, she'll be more interesting than the slut I'm looking at right now."

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Dair - it's definitely refreshing that they are mostly drama and tension free. It's nice to have something resembling a normal couple for once. On the other hand, what makes them refreshing can just as easily make them boring at some point. Nate is so incredibly awesome! He took over the Spectator, he nailed Tripp and now he basically solved the mystery of the Bassholes. I admit he's not the best secret-keeper, but he's just such a great friend to everyone, I love it. Dumbest move - I think Ivy. Serena breaks records of stupidity all the time, so the fact that she didn't hide that info really didn't surprise me. As for Diana… well, if Nate was taking his shirt off in front of me, I would probably believe anything he told me. Ivy giving up A MILLION DOLLARS was just stupid. I totally respect her for not taking the bloody money, but on the other hand… THAT WAS A MILLION DOLLARS, GIRL. The whole thing with Bassholes is getting pretty insane…

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Honestly, I'm so disappointed with everyone. Ok, except Nate obviously. These people are just so out of control. Favourite scene - Lily revealing her true colors at the family dinner. Purely for shock value, I did not see that coming. Getting Carol arrested maybe wasn't that shocking in itself, but I didn't think that Lily would let all the dirt go out publicly like that. High-brow: I really don't know. Low-brow: toss-up between Blair and Lily. More lost - they are both lost. The difference is nothing Serena does surprises me anymore, because I gave up trying to understand her a long time ago. Blair on the other hand was so disappointing, she just broke my heart. Taking over Dan's night was so low. I get that she doesn't want to be defined by the other person, but why does she think that being supportive puts her in the shadow? She made herself look like a total idiot in that speech. The only good thing is that she admitted she's screwed up and she still has Dan to help her get back.

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For me, Dair is still the best couple of GG. Dan is a wonderful man and will know how to help Blair with great sweetness.
The difficulties occur in any relationship and this is all very normal. I trust the writers, they are doing a good job. Let's wait.

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*races in* Word over at Deadline is that the fool, Safran, is leaving GG for 'Smash'. God is indeed good. Our prayers have been answered! *dances around, Martini in hand*

Morgana

As far as I remember this is a show about "scandalous lives on the Upper East Side". Not a Cinderella story. A happy couple can be interesting and fun, but the way writers presented Dan and Blair could not be determined otherwise than as boring.As friends, they were fun and I watched them with interest but as a couple - no more boring thing.

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Have we lost all romance in this world that we prefer melodramatic stories than sweet ones?it saddens me to think how much drama attracts us and we find anything Simple utterly boring? I would be proud instead of a relationship that is stable, happy and healthy rather than keep hoping a conflict comes. I think it balances it out the over dramatic parts of the episode which was already intensely heavy. People judge way too quickly and can't just enjoy the show and see where the story goes.

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