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Emma: What am I suppose to tell Henry? Regina: Tell him that in the end it wasn't too late for me to do the right thing.
April 30th, 2012 11:10 AM
I think the point in sending pinicchio first was because gepetto was afraid he'd turn back into a wooden boy and the blue fairy couldnt guarentee that he wouldn't. The reason hes turning wooden is because he was supposed to get emma to believe and he didnt. Maybe all the non bravery, honesty ect is starting to catch up with him now that things are starting to change. I kinda like the suggestion that the blue fairy is behind everything, although I dint agree myself, it's like the theory (that I do support) that glinda the good was behind dorthy coming and killing the wicked witch.
April 30th, 2012 11:08 AM
@KansasGuest: I agree it was based on a gamble. The problem is that makes what Gepetto did, a bit worse doesn't it? Most everyone's pretty understanding of what he did to protect his son, but when it's only based on a chance of it working, and the possibility that Emma could have been left in that hollow all alone, well it changes things a bit, yes?
@Bored Now: I would have agreed with your description of the curse before last week. But now? wasn't the whole purpose of the curse (for 'Stilskin) to get to this other realm where Bae ended up? So doesn't it transport as well as strip the happy endings?
Rank: Recurring Character
April 30th, 2012 10:59 AM
@Sioned & everyone else wondering about The Curse - Pinocchio was sent through based on Geppetto's best guess of what would happen. That's all it was - a gamble. Geppetto's & the Blue Fairy had no idea how it would affect Pinocchio. He gambled that his human son would remain so, protected by the tree, & allowed to grow up to protect Emma, eventually saving them all. If it didn't turn out exactly so - well, it isn't really anyone's fault because it was a gamble to begin with.
BTW, the young boy playing the young Pinocchio was just ADORABLE! Looks nothing like August. In fact, he looks like a young Eric Stoltz. Doesn't matter though. He was just so cuuuuuuute!
Rank: Guest Star
April 30th, 2012 10:08 AM
What a good episode! It was nice to see how lots of things came together with where we started the story and how Gepetto and Pinnochio were involved. Emma is crazy thinking she's just gonna take Henry and leave...so crazy that it's actually pretty laughable.
April 30th, 2012 10:05 AM
Good acting from August aka Pino. Liked the moments with his Dad.
Regina is an OK actor so is Emma and David
but Gold, Snow and August are exceptional.
April 30th, 2012 8:31 AM
so basically August promised to guide and help Emma onto breaking the curse. he was not there when she started that by doing the first step with the clock, thus the consequences.
April 30th, 2012 8:30 AM
isn't he James? anyway, why did he need another name?
Thats his twin Brother's name. We still do not know the real name of "Prince Charming".
April 30th, 2012 8:29 AM
Also, and perhaps more critically, how can August's condition be tied to the curse, if he was sent through ahead of the curse to avoid it?
Because he was sent through a tool DEVISED to stop the curse, the curse was already in progress and every magic has its price. The price of August's journey to real world was exactly that.
April 30th, 2012 8:28 AM
Gepetto's insistence on sending Pinocchio through just seemed to defy logic to me - why was it necessary to send him through before the curse, to keep him living, if the issue is that the curse would send them to the non-magical world, but that was where the wardrobe also sent him?
Curse does not just "SEND" stuff. IT strips away them of what makes them happy. It made Snow and Charming almot unable to have happy ending in Storybrooke, for example. For Geppeto Pinnochio being a real boy was what made him happy. Curse would have made Pinocchio into a lump of wood.
April 30th, 2012 8:05 AM
I like the matter of fact way they answered the big secret. Oh august, here is your dad japetto. I kept expecting some switch at the end. Pinochio meeting a boy outside the tree. But didnt happen. Lets face it, emma has not seen anything that should make her a believer. Cant wait to see what does change her mind. I felt sorry for regina. Both david and henry rejected her. I do love how all the fans love medieval chivalrious prince charming but hate modern man david. I guess I am not the only one who hates chivalry being dead.
April 30th, 2012 1:59 AM
Which is how Pinocchio actually saves himself in the story - by being selfless and redeeming himself, ok nevermind, mystery mostly solved, I'm a little slow today, and very rusty on my faery tales.
April 30th, 2012 1:47 AM
Bren, if it is the faery's conditions, why didn't he start feeling it until Emma stayed in Storybrooke? This isn't an indictment of the writers, as I feel there is an answer, I just think I'm missing it.
Because if it is that he hasn't lived up to the Blue Faery's standards, how will the curse being broken help him? Won't he be turned fully to wood if the curse is lifted, because the magic is restored and will kick in full force? Or is August not actually trying to save himself in this scenario, which I have been presuming to be the case? Is he actually sacrificing himself?
April 30th, 2012 1:37 AM
Sioned,
August isn't subject to the curse, but he is subject to the conditions the fairy set before him when she made him real. "Be brave, be good, be truthful." He took off on his own, abandoning Emma as a baby. That's one strike. Trying to over come Rumpelstiltskin may have cost him something. There may be more to his story.
April 30th, 2012 1:34 AM
Great review.
I'm quite impatient with David. He's this awesome, decisive and action oriented guy in fairy tale land, he's romantic and totally great, then the switch back to the 'modern story' and he's lame and wishy washy, like he's a different guy completely. then one considers the fact that he goes by different names in either world, doesn't need to, isn't he James? anyway, why did he need another name?
Anyway, at this point, I'm thinking Mary Margaret deserves better.
Do you think we'll ever get to see Katherine find her true love? They showed us he's there in story brook.
April 30th, 2012 1:33 AM
Also, and perhaps more critically, how can August's condition be tied to the curse, if he was sent through ahead of the curse to avoid it?
April 30th, 2012 1:21 AM
I have always suspended my disbelief before, and just enjoyed the whimsy of the show. It was this episode though, that had me probing and struggling to maintain that disbelief.
Gepetto's insistence on sending Pinocchio through just seemed to defy logic to me - why was it necessary to send him through before the curse, to keep him living, if the issue is that the curse would send them to the non-magical world, but that was where the wardrobe also sent him? With Emma this made sense - it was keeping her out of the timelock, to let her grow up. But with August, I'm a little confused - this ep implied that when time started ticking he started turning back to wood, so wouldn't he have been perfectly safe within the curse?
I guess my question is, what, precisely, did sending him through the wardrobe achieve?
Rank: Recurring Character
April 30th, 2012 12:31 AM
Also, I have to admit I don't blame Emma for not believing, I wouldn't either. And I'm not even a cynic. For anyone who's been living on earth this whole time, we usually don't believe in magic and fairytales and curses. And the fact that all those people don't remember being a fairytale character is not encouraging her to believe. Mary Margaret doesn't believe either. If I were August, I would tell Emma to get a maternity tet with MM to prove they have the same DNA. Henry is too young to think of it, but August is old enough to know is has to get concrete proof.
Rank: Guest Star
April 30th, 2012 12:28 AM
i watch this show with the same philosophy as i did Lost. Don't try to figure anything out or put too much thought into the show. Just watch and enjoy and if i figure something out i am happy. So yes i do try to put the puzzle together but i don't put too much energy into it. I did however have August figured out and i must say his new name is better than pinnochio lol. I love this puzzle it is so fantastical that i can't help but love it.
Rank: Recurring Character
April 30th, 2012 12:26 AM
For those who doubt all the mysterious things about the show I have to say I had a lot on interrogations, too and I found that given time, the stories somehow make sense and everything explains itself eventually. I trust the writers, if for one thing, they have kept us guessing and surprised us. Plus, the story is really going somewhere unlike some other shows (hum...the secret circle).
April 30th, 2012 12:04 AM
Oh man. You have suspend your disbelief at some point, or else the entire show isn't worth it.
April 29th, 2012 11:09 PM
I remain a little confounded by the internal logic of this universe: so Storybrooke is a world without magic, and yet there is a curse, and a come to life wooden boy walking around, and an entrance for a magical wardrobe, and Regina's thing with the hearts.
Magic can't be created in land without magic. Can't be conjured. Controlled.
Hence why magical things in nature can run out. Those leftovers of magic remain. Stuff that was enacted before the curse retains its power in a way, like gold's deals, or magic curses or magic bonds. Its just finite. Leftovers.
Thats the problem.
April 29th, 2012 11:07 PM
How is it that Pinochio/August has red hair and brown eyes as a child, but have brown hair and blue eyes as an adult?
April 29th, 2012 11:06 PM
I remain a little confounded by the internal logic of this universe: so Storybrooke is a world without magic, and yet there is a curse, and a come to life wooden boy walking around, and an entrance for a magical wardrobe, and Regina's thing with the hearts.
I love this show, but have realised I clearly can't think too much about the conceit of the show.
April 29th, 2012 10:58 PM
Also now I am convinced that Blue Fairy is mastermind behind it all. Maybe she has good intentions, but hell, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
In no way I will believe that she "accidentally":
- Caused rumple to create a curse.
- Protected, someone who will build the war drobe, Geppeto, for years and ensured his survival and conveniently appeared there to save Pinocchio out of her good will while we know that all magic has its price
Also, her line about "rejoining the other fairies for final preparations" is intriguing. What final preparations?
April 29th, 2012 10:56 PM
ANd it all stems from her insecurities. She does not believe not because she lacks proof. She does not believe because of her insecurities.
In short, for Emma to actually BELIEVE in it all, she first has to start believing in herself.