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Take Robb Stark for example. He isn't even IN book 2, but in the show we are seeing those things we only heard about. Why change that from the book? The simple answer is that the show needs to keep certain actors around because their characters are important to the story and it's hard to justify paying someone to do nothing.
So they've taken Robb and crafted his seasonal arc as one about learning to handle defeat and learning about love. There are many people who are cursing the Lady from Volantis because she isn't the same person from the books. But are they sure she isn't? I'd bet by the end of this season we'll find out she is indeed who she "should be".
They've moved Roose Bolton into Robb's story (different than in the books where he was at Harrenhall for a bit with Arya) to introduce him in a way that will make more sense to the viewer later on.
They've even setup a little "is Lady Volantis a Lannister spy?" plot, which while Robb and she bantered about it j
I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in about how the show is diverging from the books and the fan responses I've seen.
I have read all 5 books, having started after season 1 of the show ended. It is a great story and well written, but it gets broader and deeper in terms of characters, locations, plot-lines, and world history.
Even ignoring the limitations of a TV show like budget and lack of being "inside the POV character's head"...the sheer size of the story by book 5 dictates that the show will need to diverge, condense, consolidate, and trim.
I think they have done a wonderful job so far in their adaptation. The first season was almost scene by scene like the book, but man season 2 is I'd say a good 50% different than the book, not in the broad strokes of the story or the main plot points, but in the scenes themselves and which characters are where with whom.
Q1: Best scene has to be Tywin and Arya when he asks what killed her father. Loyalty. Awesome character moment.
Q2: I think the totality of the King's Landing scene was more dramatic, but Winterfell's fall is more shocking.
Q3: Hands down Daenerys not keeping better care of her dragons. I mean not being able to stomach hacking a girl's head off doesn't seem unreasonable to me, but the dragons are the only reason anyone cares who Danny is. Without them she's just another would-be-ruler.
Q4: Who SHOULD she kill? Tywin, Joffery, the Queen...anyone that's on her list who is in a powerful position. Who WILL she kill? Well since this part has diverged so much from the books who knows what will happen, but I'd imagine she will end up having the decision made for her (sort of like the second kill) or she'll make an emotional pick again (like the first kill).
Q5: Plead the 5th due to having read the books (and I don't think they'll stray that far on the show).
1. The hound saving Sansa, I found myself hoping like hell they were keeping that bit the same as the books and found myself yelling for the Hound to save her. He really is a softie deep deep down.
2. The Uprising - Very well done but the scene of Rodrik's final words was up there. Theon really has lost his way, it's all down here for him.
3. Um if I had dragons, I wouldn't be letting them out of my sight in a city where I know no one and trust only a handful of people... Silly, silly girl. But I do agree with the Reviewer that the guy from the House of Undying has them and I don't think he will have them for very long. Props to the writer's for what their doing to her storyline, it is very long and drawn out in the books, they are speeding everything up, love it!
4. Baelish is a good answer and her Mother would probably be so proud after their last encounter but still I found something wishing for the Mountain, he is evil and we havn't seen the last of that.
5. Oh, heaven forbid
Yes, we're aware of the book and TV show differences, but we write these Round Tables solely focused on the latter. We treat GoT like any other television show and react to what we see on screen.
The show didn't go into detail, but in the books they send Myrcella to Braavos, which is acroos the narrow sea and to the North, before eventually sending her to Dorne. They do this to switch ships and avoid Stannis' fleet.
I didn't have a problem with most of the changes. Anything to try and liven up Daenerys' boring chapters from ACOK is okay by me. My guess is Pyatt Pree and the warlocks stole her dragons and brought them to the House of the Undying.
This episode has had gaping holes, to little stupid ones in every single scene. Heres a recap: Princess Marcella is being sent of to Dorne for protection. Dorne is below Kings landing near the bottom of the seven kingdoms. Stannis in the last episode had his navy sailing from below Kings Landing and named his pirate/smuggler Davos Seaworth as capitan of his navy with his buddy Salandor Saan the pirate.Who had happily boasted of sinking every ship he could find and plundering to his hearts conetent. Small proability that this ship carryig her, would have manoveured around this massive navy sailing from the same direction. Rodrick Cassel a seasoned veteran knight, was granted 200 of Winterfell soliders from Brandon Stark to retake Torhen Square. His entire army was routed and sir Rodrick captured by a handful of Iron Islanders. A longships worth, this tiny raiding party, most of which had grappled Winterfells walls. We watched as Arya used her knowledge to read and tell of various armies
I'm not sure if any of you are aware or have heard, but this episode was, by far, the furthest from it's novel adaptation of any episode so far in Thrones. Virtually nothing that happened in it also happened in the books, and those scenes that did, played out quite differently for the most part.
As for your opinions...
I actually did not like the riot in King's Landing. This may be because I'm comparing it to the books but the scale of it all seemed rather pathetic to me. For that matter, Thrones struggles with most scenes calling for large crowds, I get it, It's a budget thing. I tolerate the scenes but I don't love them.
As for Theon's capturing of Winterfell. I thought it was done really well, though, I'm not so sure an 11-year-old would handle it quite so well in that initial scene. In fact, that scene plays out VERY differently in the books. Bran acts like a little child not wanting to admit he lost and Theon almost treats him like a little brother, he's very boyis
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