Gossip Girl Round Table: "The Return of the Ring" Comments (Page 3)
98 Comments
Zoran
May 16th, 2012 5:54 PM
@Be real
At the end of season 5 biggest loser was Serena. Dan was not a loser because he could not lose what he never had (Blair). Serena was not done any harm to Dan. Throughout the season, Serena was trying to help Dan, sacrificing her career, her job and her reputation. Dan made a mistake because he fell in love with a girl who does not love him (Blair). Serena has decided that Dan was a man for her, because she realized that other men with whom she was would not deserve her! Rufus was partly his fault that he was in such a position. As the husband of Lily, Rufus had always to be with her, no matter what. But Rufus has chosen to confront Lily about Ivy, and that was the end. Because it was still UES and the money and property are The most important. But I think the story between Rufus and Lily was not completed. As certainly love between Serena and Dan is not finished, just needs time to Humphrey realize that!
Be real
May 16th, 2012 5:39 PM
@ninny
That says it all..........
nini
May 16th, 2012 5:33 PM
Hahahahaha:)) This is so funny how Dair fans can not admit that Blair never loved Dan, NEVER HAS, NEVER WILL:))) And i am actually happy that Chuck did not take her back. at some point Bart was right, Chuck should not have forgiven Blair easily. She should chase chuck and beg him to take her back after having an affair with Dan. I mean come on! But Chair is Chair and they have been meant for each other. Writers have made some serious mistakes with Blair's character but finally we are back to the epic happy ending of Chuck and Blair. As for Serena, Nate is perfect for her and this Drug story was way too first season.
P.S. relationship between Dan and Blair did not need talking - what was he thinking:)))))
Anne
May 16th, 2012 5:32 PM
@be real
I'm just saying Chuck shouldn't have to wear a scarlet letter on his chest because of what happened early on. He has owned up to his mistakes and admitted them, even recently to his Dad. I like him with Blair, sexy and exciting and I think he is a great character. I like Dan too (he did give Chuck Monkey) but I think he should be there for Serena who is going downhill fast. She has always loved Dan. And Lily, who I can only think is with Bart to help Chuck now too. I liked that Blair stepped in to help Chuck and said she loved him. That was romantic. I really liked his expression at the end. People do change for the better you know.
master
May 16th, 2012 5:20 PM
I'm not watching this crap anymore. CW might have cancelled it i would totally understand it. Bad writing has never been worse than the writing on Gossip Girl. Uninteresting characters, sureal twists, stupid storylines. Seriously? And that Chuck... If there is a character I absolutely don't care about it's him.
Be real
May 16th, 2012 4:44 PM
@Zoran
We know you turn your attention to Derena - you don't see past it. Serena cannot just decide who she wants to spend the rest of her life with and expect the other person to fall in line. She may be used to getting everything handed to her on a plate but Dan has free will and the right to choose. I think Serena was a convenient place for him to channel his misery (euphemism!). I don't deny that he still cared about her but I think she's gone a step too far. I think the Humphreys and VDWs are better off apart. I'm tired of them getting trashed by the two blonde bints. Team Humphrey!
pty
May 16th, 2012 4:19 PM
Like I said in other articles, I don't watch this show expecting morality lessons or for it to setup a role model for anybody, and anybody who watches this show expecting that outcome is delusional, even the producers have said they show is not an after school special kind of show in several interviews during all these years. As for some people not getting Blair's POV, maybe you need to consider the phrase "it's better to have loved and lost than to not have loved at all", maybe that's linked or behind her reasoning in choosing Chuck.
In another subject, that Gossip Guy xoxo line was the best ever in a Round Table.
Zoran
May 16th, 2012 4:03 PM
As for Rufus and Lily, it is not the first time that the two disagree, but their relationship was much better until they were married. Maybe in season 6 Lily and Rufus should be reconciled, but not to be married.
@Be real
If you turned your attention to Serena and Dan as I do, you'd know why Dan is the right man for Serena. If you remember in season 1 Serena decided that Dan is the love of her life, and therefore her has asked Lily to marry Bart. By the end of the season 5 Dan was the only guy who was worthy to Serena spends her life with him. Dan did not want her money, or her position, he just simply want her! Dan was always there for Serena, her knight in shining armor! I think the relationship between Lily and Rufus has little to do with events between Serena and Dan. Dan is angry at Serena because she was right when she said that he was in love with an illusion - Blair from the book, not to real Blair. Dan loves that he is always right, and because of that the two of them arguing earlier. But it is undeniable that Dan still has feelings for Serena (sex). As for Rufus and Lily, it is not the first time that the two disagree, but their relationship was much better until they were marri
fani
May 16th, 2012 3:55 PM
On second viewing the episode has grown on me. I do not think it was a great episode because it borrowed too heavily from previous (stronger) episodes. I am grateful it set up many compelling future scenarios.
Be real
May 16th, 2012 3:25 PM
And I have a problem with the whole 'Dan owes Serena' crap because she loves him. Why does he? It's ridiculous to think he has to go running back when she wants him. Hes always her fall back guy and deserves better than that.
And after the way Lily has treated Rufus I can understand Dan not wanting to be anywhere the VDWs. That would be lovely for Rufus in the future wouldn't it? His son shacked up with the daughter of the bint that just ditched for the robotic Bart Bass. I hope the Humphreys leave those two blonde slappers to it!
Be real
May 16th, 2012 3:17 PM
@anne
Please do not twist my words to suit yourself but hey you do that with the show so what else should I expect. Chuck has done his fair share of lying, spying and sending hurtful blasts to gossip girl. Also let's not forget attempted rape, pimping, violence etc. And the only reason he has monkey is because of dan. You think chuck would've have gone and got a dog himself?
I actually like Chuck despite all those things but I'm not so blinkered that I can't see his faults. In the same way Dan has had some questionable moments and I still like him. My problem is people who choose to be selective in their reasoning. It shows a very limited rationale.
Zoran
May 16th, 2012 2:20 PM
@Be real
So we are all in the imagination when we look GG on TV! Nothing is not over until it is over Season 6! Also, my comment was related to the sex scene, and not the consequences that it has caused! And as you know this is GG, and everything is possible!
anne
May 16th, 2012 1:42 PM
@be real.
It is about time Blair is "all in" for Chuck. You are right about one thing-Dan is no angel and he will never be in Chuck's league. That is why she picked Chuck. Dan should try to help Serena, who obviously really loves him and seems to be going downhill fast.
anne
May 16th, 2012 1:20 PM
Chuck has waited around for Blair for years, admitted his temper and faults, most recently to his Dad and seems to be trying to build a future for himself that hopefully does include Blair, his true love. Dan lies, spies, Serena told him she loves him (which he avoids) sends hurtful blasts to GG, which usually Chuck gets blamed for, and doesn't trust Blair at all, doesn't heed his Dad's advice at all and you think they belong together?? Chuck adopted that scruffy helpless dog, responsibly neutered, feds, walks and loves him (the only character that did) and works at a job every day, helping his friends and Dad and waiting for Blair. I am on Chuck's side and I hope Lily helps him too. I bet she does with Bart.
belle
May 16th, 2012 1:12 PM
@ anne
Even tho i think B made wrong choice(an opinion I am entitled to & so is everyone that feels the same), I am moving forward with Chair. I don't think S really destroyed the sex tape & I REALLY, REALLY hope we don't see a pregnant Serena in Season 6. Please don't go there writers!
Be real
May 16th, 2012 1:04 PM
@Zoran, @anne
You guys need to take your blinkers, rose tinted specs off, lose the tunnel vision!
Anne you conveniently leave out all the crap stuff Chuck has done which definitely tips the scales against him. Dan is no angel but nowhere near Chucks league.
Zoran that scene smacked of Serena's desperation and Dan's unhappiness - was actually cringeworthy and ruined their relationship.
But hey, you guys live in fantasy land!
Zoran
May 16th, 2012 12:50 PM
You all know that I am a big fan of Serena and Dan. But I have to congratulate Blake and Penn how they played a great sex scene! Each honor to them, they took us five years ago and showed the nature of true love! Scene was not perfect, but what they showed as was great. A lot of passion, excitement, and one that only true love Dan and Serena can demonstrate. The audience was waiting for 3 years and this scene was beautiful. In season five, this was a most beautiful love and sex scene! Blake showed why she is one of the most promising young actresses in Hollywood, and for me the most beautiful! Penn was up to the task, and proved that when acting together can make a miracle!
anne
May 16th, 2012 11:41 AM
Then there is Dan, who lies to Blair, spies on her, argues and doesn't trust her, sent in numerous hurtful blasts to GG, one on her wedding day that Chuck got blamed for, has zero chemistry with her and on top of that knows that Serena (her best friend) loves him and he never really handled that well at all. There is no contest here, Chuck and Blair people.
anne
May 16th, 2012 11:35 AM
I am tired of people who can't see why Blair picked Chuck. Here is a guy who loved Blair from the season one, voted for her about 100 times so she would be prom queen,brings her presents,completely adores her, stood by her when she was upset at school, telling her remember your Blair Waldorf and I am Chuck Bass, and I love you," rescued her from the roof when she was kidnapped, carrys around the ring for her for years waiting for her, trys to talk her out of marrying Louie when her mother came to him in the 100th episode, tells her he would love her baby and help her raise it like his own, and adopts a scruffy helpless dog and takes good care of it responsibly and with love,trys to help his friend Nate and his Dad who has been hard on him and paid some huge amount for Blair's dowry and she merely sent him a text thank you also as I can see he works everyday at a job that looks stressful all while waiting around for Blair make her choice. He never told her to sleep with someone, there
@ Belle
Exactly. This reviewer spelled it out so well: [Blair's choice] makes being devastated desirable, rather than “strong and safe.” Safety becomes a bad thing, strength becomes a given, much better to be shattered by someone who has done nothing but manipulate you. A Divergent quotation comes to mind: “even though he saved me, he treated me like I was strong.” But in the case of the UES, damsel or strong woman are the only two options and by golly, why would you sacrifice the opportunity to be devastated? Yeah, that’s a guy you should fight for. - Leaky News
CharlieTrout
May 16th, 2012 10:35 AM
I also miss Duck, though I'm not sure if they can ever be friends again :(. And don't forget Chunky ; P!
CharlieTrout
May 16th, 2012 10:33 AM
I like Lilly and Bart together, I guess I'm the only one lol (. What Bart did was cold, but I still have hope he can change...maybe. I hope he and Lilly stay together anyway, better match then Rufus. I still don't see what Lilly did so bad, Ivy was a liar, and she's not part of their family? Also she kicked Lilly out of her own home!
I kind of hope one of the call backs to the previous seasons is that Chuck asks Blair to marry him in the limo. It would be kind of epic to me, just turning to her and saying 'marry me?' right where it all started lol. The limo has been present for so many good times for them, the first time they hooked up, Chuck was about to get in it when Blair told him she loved him, and Chuck told her he loved her in front of it. So it would fit nicely :). I'm still rooting for Derena now, though it seems rather hopeless lol. Last season sigh, hopefully it's a memorable one for all the right reasons!
belle
May 16th, 2012 9:36 AM
@ Julie Jay
I agree. "devastaion over safety" Is that in reference to Blair's decision?
Serena: Congratulations, you've officially joined the dark side.
May 16th, 2012 5:54 PM
@Be real
At the end of season 5 biggest loser was Serena. Dan was not a loser because he could not lose what he never had (Blair). Serena was not done any harm to Dan. Throughout the season, Serena was trying to help Dan, sacrificing her career, her job and her reputation. Dan made a mistake because he fell in love with a girl who does not love him (Blair). Serena has decided that Dan was a man for her, because she realized that other men with whom she was would not deserve her! Rufus was partly his fault that he was in such a position. As the husband of Lily, Rufus had always to be with her, no matter what. But Rufus has chosen to confront Lily about Ivy, and that was the end. Because it was still UES and the money and property are The most important. But I think the story between Rufus and Lily was not completed. As certainly love between Serena and Dan is not finished, just needs time to Humphrey realize that!
May 16th, 2012 5:39 PM
@ninny
That says it all..........
May 16th, 2012 5:33 PM
Hahahahaha:)) This is so funny how Dair fans can not admit that Blair never loved Dan, NEVER HAS, NEVER WILL:))) And i am actually happy that Chuck did not take her back. at some point Bart was right, Chuck should not have forgiven Blair easily. She should chase chuck and beg him to take her back after having an affair with Dan. I mean come on! But Chair is Chair and they have been meant for each other. Writers have made some serious mistakes with Blair's character but finally we are back to the epic happy ending of Chuck and Blair. As for Serena, Nate is perfect for her and this Drug story was way too first season.
P.S. relationship between Dan and Blair did not need talking - what was he thinking:)))))
May 16th, 2012 5:32 PM
@be real
I'm just saying Chuck shouldn't have to wear a scarlet letter on his chest because of what happened early on. He has owned up to his mistakes and admitted them, even recently to his Dad. I like him with Blair, sexy and exciting and I think he is a great character. I like Dan too (he did give Chuck Monkey) but I think he should be there for Serena who is going downhill fast. She has always loved Dan. And Lily, who I can only think is with Bart to help Chuck now too. I liked that Blair stepped in to help Chuck and said she loved him. That was romantic. I really liked his expression at the end. People do change for the better you know.
May 16th, 2012 5:20 PM
I'm not watching this crap anymore. CW might have cancelled it i would totally understand it. Bad writing has never been worse than the writing on Gossip Girl. Uninteresting characters, sureal twists, stupid storylines. Seriously? And that Chuck... If there is a character I absolutely don't care about it's him.
May 16th, 2012 4:44 PM
@Zoran
We know you turn your attention to Derena - you don't see past it. Serena cannot just decide who she wants to spend the rest of her life with and expect the other person to fall in line. She may be used to getting everything handed to her on a plate but Dan has free will and the right to choose. I think Serena was a convenient place for him to channel his misery (euphemism!). I don't deny that he still cared about her but I think she's gone a step too far. I think the Humphreys and VDWs are better off apart. I'm tired of them getting trashed by the two blonde bints. Team Humphrey!
May 16th, 2012 4:19 PM
Like I said in other articles, I don't watch this show expecting morality lessons or for it to setup a role model for anybody, and anybody who watches this show expecting that outcome is delusional, even the producers have said they show is not an after school special kind of show in several interviews during all these years. As for some people not getting Blair's POV, maybe you need to consider the phrase "it's better to have loved and lost than to not have loved at all", maybe that's linked or behind her reasoning in choosing Chuck.
In another subject, that Gossip Guy xoxo line was the best ever in a Round Table.
May 16th, 2012 4:03 PM
As for Rufus and Lily, it is not the first time that the two disagree, but their relationship was much better until they were married. Maybe in season 6 Lily and Rufus should be reconciled, but not to be married.
Rank: Extra
May 16th, 2012 4:03 PM
She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named. ?? Vanessa ??
May 16th, 2012 4:01 PM
@Be real
If you turned your attention to Serena and Dan as I do, you'd know why Dan is the right man for Serena. If you remember in season 1 Serena decided that Dan is the love of her life, and therefore her has asked Lily to marry Bart. By the end of the season 5 Dan was the only guy who was worthy to Serena spends her life with him. Dan did not want her money, or her position, he just simply want her! Dan was always there for Serena, her knight in shining armor! I think the relationship between Lily and Rufus has little to do with events between Serena and Dan. Dan is angry at Serena because she was right when she said that he was in love with an illusion - Blair from the book, not to real Blair. Dan loves that he is always right, and because of that the two of them arguing earlier. But it is undeniable that Dan still has feelings for Serena (sex). As for Rufus and Lily, it is not the first time that the two disagree, but their relationship was much better until they were marri
May 16th, 2012 3:55 PM
On second viewing the episode has grown on me. I do not think it was a great episode because it borrowed too heavily from previous (stronger) episodes. I am grateful it set up many compelling future scenarios.
May 16th, 2012 3:25 PM
And I have a problem with the whole 'Dan owes Serena' crap because she loves him. Why does he? It's ridiculous to think he has to go running back when she wants him. Hes always her fall back guy and deserves better than that.
And after the way Lily has treated Rufus I can understand Dan not wanting to be anywhere the VDWs. That would be lovely for Rufus in the future wouldn't it? His son shacked up with the daughter of the bint that just ditched for the robotic Bart Bass. I hope the Humphreys leave those two blonde slappers to it!
May 16th, 2012 3:17 PM
@anne
Please do not twist my words to suit yourself but hey you do that with the show so what else should I expect. Chuck has done his fair share of lying, spying and sending hurtful blasts to gossip girl. Also let's not forget attempted rape, pimping, violence etc. And the only reason he has monkey is because of dan. You think chuck would've have gone and got a dog himself?
I actually like Chuck despite all those things but I'm not so blinkered that I can't see his faults. In the same way Dan has had some questionable moments and I still like him. My problem is people who choose to be selective in their reasoning. It shows a very limited rationale.
May 16th, 2012 2:20 PM
@Be real
So we are all in the imagination when we look GG on TV! Nothing is not over until it is over Season 6! Also, my comment was related to the sex scene, and not the consequences that it has caused! And as you know this is GG, and everything is possible!
May 16th, 2012 1:42 PM
@be real.
It is about time Blair is "all in" for Chuck. You are right about one thing-Dan is no angel and he will never be in Chuck's league. That is why she picked Chuck. Dan should try to help Serena, who obviously really loves him and seems to be going downhill fast.
May 16th, 2012 1:20 PM
Chuck has waited around for Blair for years, admitted his temper and faults, most recently to his Dad and seems to be trying to build a future for himself that hopefully does include Blair, his true love. Dan lies, spies, Serena told him she loves him (which he avoids) sends hurtful blasts to GG, which usually Chuck gets blamed for, and doesn't trust Blair at all, doesn't heed his Dad's advice at all and you think they belong together?? Chuck adopted that scruffy helpless dog, responsibly neutered, feds, walks and loves him (the only character that did) and works at a job every day, helping his friends and Dad and waiting for Blair. I am on Chuck's side and I hope Lily helps him too. I bet she does with Bart.
May 16th, 2012 1:12 PM
@ anne
Even tho i think B made wrong choice(an opinion I am entitled to & so is everyone that feels the same), I am moving forward with Chair. I don't think S really destroyed the sex tape & I REALLY, REALLY hope we don't see a pregnant Serena in Season 6. Please don't go there writers!
May 16th, 2012 1:04 PM
@Zoran, @anne
You guys need to take your blinkers, rose tinted specs off, lose the tunnel vision!
Anne you conveniently leave out all the crap stuff Chuck has done which definitely tips the scales against him. Dan is no angel but nowhere near Chucks league.
Zoran that scene smacked of Serena's desperation and Dan's unhappiness - was actually cringeworthy and ruined their relationship.
But hey, you guys live in fantasy land!
May 16th, 2012 12:50 PM
You all know that I am a big fan of Serena and Dan. But I have to congratulate Blake and Penn how they played a great sex scene! Each honor to them, they took us five years ago and showed the nature of true love! Scene was not perfect, but what they showed as was great. A lot of passion, excitement, and one that only true love Dan and Serena can demonstrate. The audience was waiting for 3 years and this scene was beautiful. In season five, this was a most beautiful love and sex scene! Blake showed why she is one of the most promising young actresses in Hollywood, and for me the most beautiful! Penn was up to the task, and proved that when acting together can make a miracle!
May 16th, 2012 11:41 AM
Then there is Dan, who lies to Blair, spies on her, argues and doesn't trust her, sent in numerous hurtful blasts to GG, one on her wedding day that Chuck got blamed for, has zero chemistry with her and on top of that knows that Serena (her best friend) loves him and he never really handled that well at all. There is no contest here, Chuck and Blair people.
May 16th, 2012 11:35 AM
I am tired of people who can't see why Blair picked Chuck. Here is a guy who loved Blair from the season one, voted for her about 100 times so she would be prom queen,brings her presents,completely adores her, stood by her when she was upset at school, telling her remember your Blair Waldorf and I am Chuck Bass, and I love you," rescued her from the roof when she was kidnapped, carrys around the ring for her for years waiting for her, trys to talk her out of marrying Louie when her mother came to him in the 100th episode, tells her he would love her baby and help her raise it like his own, and adopts a scruffy helpless dog and takes good care of it responsibly and with love,trys to help his friend Nate and his Dad who has been hard on him and paid some huge amount for Blair's dowry and she merely sent him a text thank you also as I can see he works everyday at a job that looks stressful all while waiting around for Blair make her choice. He never told her to sleep with someone, there
Rank: Extra
May 16th, 2012 10:39 AM
@ Belle
Exactly. This reviewer spelled it out so well: [Blair's choice] makes being devastated desirable, rather than “strong and safe.” Safety becomes a bad thing, strength becomes a given, much better to be shattered by someone who has done nothing but manipulate you. A Divergent quotation comes to mind: “even though he saved me, he treated me like I was strong.” But in the case of the UES, damsel or strong woman are the only two options and by golly, why would you sacrifice the opportunity to be devastated? Yeah, that’s a guy you should fight for. - Leaky News
May 16th, 2012 10:35 AM
I also miss Duck, though I'm not sure if they can ever be friends again :(. And don't forget Chunky ; P!
May 16th, 2012 10:33 AM
I like Lilly and Bart together, I guess I'm the only one lol (. What Bart did was cold, but I still have hope he can change...maybe. I hope he and Lilly stay together anyway, better match then Rufus. I still don't see what Lilly did so bad, Ivy was a liar, and she's not part of their family? Also she kicked Lilly out of her own home!
I kind of hope one of the call backs to the previous seasons is that Chuck asks Blair to marry him in the limo. It would be kind of epic to me, just turning to her and saying 'marry me?' right where it all started lol. The limo has been present for so many good times for them, the first time they hooked up, Chuck was about to get in it when Blair told him she loved him, and Chuck told her he loved her in front of it. So it would fit nicely :). I'm still rooting for Derena now, though it seems rather hopeless lol. Last season sigh, hopefully it's a memorable one for all the right reasons!
May 16th, 2012 9:36 AM
@ Julie Jay
I agree. "devastaion over safety" Is that in reference to Blair's decision?