NCIS Review: Going Down in Flames Comments (Page 3)
126 Comments
Michael
May 10th, 2012 8:02 AM
AJA- Don't forget they also had her runing around wondering where tony and gibbs were thinking they were on a mandate
AJA
May 10th, 2012 7:48 AM
Kat - In answer to why some (mostly Tony fans) feel that Tony has been reduced to less than SFA. IMO this has been happening little by little since season 5. It started with Ziva ALWAYS being right when they had small competitions. That continued and is still with us. By season 6 and 7, if she and Tony were paired and in a fight scene, over and over, Tony could barely throw a punch, while super Ziva would take out 3 goons twice her side with nary a mussed hair. You are right that in the last few episodes, for the first time in years I might add, Tony has actually gotten to throw a punch and take someone down in Ziva's presence and she didn't have to come in and save him. Thank you GG! But now we have Gibbs calling Ziva, not Tony, for information or to have her handle something. We have Ziva ordering Tony around, still insutling him regularly - remember the deadweight comment, going on every undercover mission this season, and paired with Gibbs always.
Has anyone seen the promotional video for next weeks episode seems Sean Latham is back he tried to kill Tony and EJ is involved somehow in the plot
kay
May 10th, 2012 3:52 AM
ha. he's like self-righteous tony, but bad
ValS
May 10th, 2012 2:53 AM
Part Two: If this plot line is correct then all of this (Ryan) stuff has been worth it. Now that would be exciting. However, I do not think the current writers of the show are that clever. But for the fans sake I hope they are.
ValS
May 10th, 2012 2:52 AM
@ Sunshine: I like your train of thought. Ryan is in cahoots with Dearing because she is his wife, or girlfriend and Dearing’s dead belongs to them both. Hum, this would make sense as to why she is all over Gibbs and butting into his cases whenever she wants. Gibbs once said that the best way to interrogate a suspect was to sleep with them. Is Ryan sleeping with Gibbs to gain information on the Navy? But, she is PsyOps she can get more information about the Navy without Gibbs.
Hum! If your train of thought is correct then Ryan and Dearing are getting back at Gibbs for; hum – What? That is the problem; for what would they have a grudge against Gibbs for? Why him, and not “sec-nav” or the Navy in general? Or is this a way for PsyOps (Ryan) and Dearing to get into the navy yard and gain access to its buildings on a regular basis and plant bombs so they can get to their real target; and get revenge for their son? Wow, crazy plot, and lot’s to think about… If this plot line
Zia Rank: Regular Character
May 9th, 2012 11:33 PM
I liked this episode. I always thought that Dr. Ryan was a little too shady for someone like Gibbs. I have even more doubts that she is a good-guy after this last episode. I kind of hoping she is bad, I did not mind her so much before, but now, she just gives me the creeps. However, I think JLC plays her just the way she should and is doing a good acting job. I hope people stop with the Activa references, its getting really old. Overall looking forward to the finale.
janet
May 9th, 2012 11:23 PM
something is wrong somewhere people are not watching NCIS as they use to if its not tiva what is it?
Michael
May 9th, 2012 11:14 PM
@Kat
Where to start Gibbs use to take tony with him when he left now he take Ziva Gibbs use to have Tony get Vance now Ziva does it which is something we been fearing for a while is that Ziva hole point is to replace Tony
Sunshine
May 9th, 2012 11:08 PM
I looked at 'Up In Smoke' again and the kitchen scene where Ryan was describing Dearing, felt like she was talking about herself. Even Gibbs commented that Dearing's style was Ryan's style. It was a 'Keyser Soze' moment for me. Did anyone else feel this?
Also, when Dearing left the boat in the shrubs, Gibbs commented how the model was an exact replica of his boat even the spade rudder and I remembered that when Ryan drew a boat on the napkin in a previous episode, it had a rudder as well, which I found was odd for a scribble/sketch.
Finally, when Ryan showed Gibbs her son's boat drawing, we all assumed it was done by her son that is alive, however, could it have been a drawing by her and Dearing's dead son who used to love boats (maybe that is why he became a sailor?)
Ok, I have spent way too much time on a fictional series, good night all!
Kat
May 9th, 2012 10:53 PM
I'm trying to figure out where tony has been reduced to less than senior field agent lately? What episodes are people talking about bc these episodes in particular have had Tony kicking some serious butt while retaining his goofy side we all love. He has been great
Michael
May 9th, 2012 9:33 PM
@Kerrylynn
LOL that so funny because its so true
guest
May 9th, 2012 9:20 PM
I agree i hope Gibbs arrest her or she dies, goodness knows she needs to be off the show, its yuk to even watch it with her
annie
May 9th, 2012 7:45 PM
love curtis as doc. ryan. she's great playing accross from jenthro.
BOB
May 9th, 2012 7:26 PM
PLEASE GET RID OF CURTIS ... SHE TAKES AWAY FROM THE REAL CHARACTERS IN THE SHOW ... JUST NOT A FIT.
AJA
May 9th, 2012 7:17 PM
Agree with your post Kerrylynn. They have really sacrificed Tony to give us superior queen Ziva. MW is such a handsome, charismatic and gifted actor, but tptb have diminished him to the point that he has been demoted from Senior Field Agent to the agent who needs to be insulted, one upped, and outdone nearly every week, so Ziva can shine. What a shame.
Joyce
May 9th, 2012 7:02 PM
Glad to see that I have plenty of company on the "I hate Dr Ryan" wagon! I am hoping that next week will be the last we see of her. The character has no chemistry with Gibbs, she's too sneaky and dishonest. His gut is telling him not to trust her. I suspect she is involved with Dearing in some way. If she is Gibbs will bring her down, or kill her perhaps -either way is fine with me as long as she goes!! I also see that several other posters here would prefer Gibbs with Borin - I think that they would be a great couple.At least Borin's character is likeable,unlink Dr Ryan. JLC needs to go back to peddling yogurt!
Lamar Savage
May 9th, 2012 6:46 PM
I've been after the NCIS writers for years to knock off the ridiculous chiches about the show's main characters always being burdened with, cruel, dangerous or psychotic "love" interests -- and of course they never listen, but in JLC's character they have gone further down this sorry path than ever before! I have never been so completely repulsed by an NCIS character or major plotline as I am with this one!!!! They are staining the best show on television.
CJ
May 9th, 2012 6:34 PM
@MWK
The navy brass allowed the Cape Fear to blow up with the terrorist’s bomb aboard it. Just before the explosion, an inflatable boat filled with navy men in wet suits pulled up to the ship. I imagine all were killed in the explosion. If I were a parent of one of those men and found out, through my work (Dr. Ryan?), that the explosion was allowed to occur to prevent a negative public relation situation, I think I might be out for blood, also.
I had an impression “The Good Son” was Rocky’s (Vance) swan song. If so, the writers gave him a good send off. I would not be surprised if the finale keeps “Where’s Vance?” up in the air for the next season.
ValS
May 9th, 2012 6:02 PM
Okay, I think that if anyone is going to die on the show it is most likely Vance. He has just been kidnapped by this new villain; he has not been seen in an episode for some time now; and he is the only member of the cast we have not heard about with regards to if he will be signing a new contract. Hum… Is it just me or does that spell NCIS will be getting a new director?
With the new secretary of the navy in place he will need someone that is not in cahoots with Gibbs to undermine his authority. He (sec-nav) would want to put a director in place that is willing to cover up all of his indiscretions.
kim
May 9th, 2012 5:51 PM
I have to agree i am getting sick of JLC and the writers not listening, she is not good for the show, she makes it all about her, and not the regular cast, its a naval crime drama, not a soap opera. I agree JLC got to go
Kerrylynn
May 9th, 2012 5:50 PM
Simply...good epi. Not the best.
JLC...like her, don't trust this character.
Tony...needs to be treated better, he is very intelligent very skilled quit picking on him.
Ziva...when did she get so elevated...I swear she is now Queen Bi+ch. She sure thinks more of herself!
Abby...still Queen of the Lab. Never gets the screen time she should.
Tim...At least they are treating him like a grownup now.
These days I don't know what's going on half the time, I've been tuning out every time I see JLC. I'm watching the last two episodes because I need to see what is happening next season. I agree that this whole season has just been difficult to watch. I love me my NCIS, all the guys are doing an excellent job as usual but SHE NEEDS TO GO! Perhaps she could throw herself into Dearing's black hole of evil gloom and doom, you know sort of a la volcano,she could well be a non virginal sacrifice. I will watch the last episode and then next season the 1st to see how it plays out and who remains standing. After that if the lava or smoke as it were clears and she's still standing, I'll be watching something else. Jaime your curds are a callin' and since you started your arc, my digestive system has needed some tweaking. CBS are you listening??
bagels
May 9th, 2012 5:31 PM
Kudos to Curtis for her ability to play an extremely slimy, sneaky character. Gibbs simply can not stay romantically involved with her though I would like to see her in a recurring role as the brain gamer. Overall, a satisfying episode.
ValS
May 9th, 2012 5:26 PM
@ Will: I agree with every single word. Great post. :)
Abby: I knew that guy was trouble. He's like an evil McGee.
May 10th, 2012 8:02 AM
AJA- Don't forget they also had her runing around wondering where tony and gibbs were thinking they were on a mandate
May 10th, 2012 7:48 AM
Kat - In answer to why some (mostly Tony fans) feel that Tony has been reduced to less than SFA. IMO this has been happening little by little since season 5. It started with Ziva ALWAYS being right when they had small competitions. That continued and is still with us. By season 6 and 7, if she and Tony were paired and in a fight scene, over and over, Tony could barely throw a punch, while super Ziva would take out 3 goons twice her side with nary a mussed hair. You are right that in the last few episodes, for the first time in years I might add, Tony has actually gotten to throw a punch and take someone down in Ziva's presence and she didn't have to come in and save him. Thank you GG! But now we have Gibbs calling Ziva, not Tony, for information or to have her handle something. We have Ziva ordering Tony around, still insutling him regularly - remember the deadweight comment, going on every undercover mission this season, and paired with Gibbs always.
Rank: Extra
May 10th, 2012 4:04 AM
Has anyone seen the promotional video for next weeks episode seems Sean Latham is back he tried to kill Tony and EJ is involved somehow in the plot
May 10th, 2012 3:52 AM
ha. he's like self-righteous tony, but bad
May 10th, 2012 2:53 AM
Part Two: If this plot line is correct then all of this (Ryan) stuff has been worth it. Now that would be exciting. However, I do not think the current writers of the show are that clever. But for the fans sake I hope they are.
May 10th, 2012 2:52 AM
@ Sunshine: I like your train of thought. Ryan is in cahoots with Dearing because she is his wife, or girlfriend and Dearing’s dead belongs to them both. Hum, this would make sense as to why she is all over Gibbs and butting into his cases whenever she wants. Gibbs once said that the best way to interrogate a suspect was to sleep with them. Is Ryan sleeping with Gibbs to gain information on the Navy? But, she is PsyOps she can get more information about the Navy without Gibbs.
Hum! If your train of thought is correct then Ryan and Dearing are getting back at Gibbs for; hum – What? That is the problem; for what would they have a grudge against Gibbs for? Why him, and not “sec-nav” or the Navy in general? Or is this a way for PsyOps (Ryan) and Dearing to get into the navy yard and gain access to its buildings on a regular basis and plant bombs so they can get to their real target; and get revenge for their son? Wow, crazy plot, and lot’s to think about… If this plot line
Rank: Regular Character
May 9th, 2012 11:33 PM
I liked this episode. I always thought that Dr. Ryan was a little too shady for someone like Gibbs. I have even more doubts that she is a good-guy after this last episode. I kind of hoping she is bad, I did not mind her so much before, but now, she just gives me the creeps. However, I think JLC plays her just the way she should and is doing a good acting job. I hope people stop with the Activa references, its getting really old. Overall looking forward to the finale.
May 9th, 2012 11:23 PM
something is wrong somewhere people are not watching NCIS as they use to if its not tiva what is it?
May 9th, 2012 11:14 PM
@Kat
Where to start Gibbs use to take tony with him when he left now he take Ziva Gibbs use to have Tony get Vance now Ziva does it which is something we been fearing for a while is that Ziva hole point is to replace Tony
May 9th, 2012 11:08 PM
I looked at 'Up In Smoke' again and the kitchen scene where Ryan was describing Dearing, felt like she was talking about herself. Even Gibbs commented that Dearing's style was Ryan's style. It was a 'Keyser Soze' moment for me. Did anyone else feel this?
Also, when Dearing left the boat in the shrubs, Gibbs commented how the model was an exact replica of his boat even the spade rudder and I remembered that when Ryan drew a boat on the napkin in a previous episode, it had a rudder as well, which I found was odd for a scribble/sketch.
Finally, when Ryan showed Gibbs her son's boat drawing, we all assumed it was done by her son that is alive, however, could it have been a drawing by her and Dearing's dead son who used to love boats (maybe that is why he became a sailor?)
Ok, I have spent way too much time on a fictional series, good night all!
May 9th, 2012 10:53 PM
I'm trying to figure out where tony has been reduced to less than senior field agent lately? What episodes are people talking about bc these episodes in particular have had Tony kicking some serious butt while retaining his goofy side we all love. He has been great
May 9th, 2012 9:33 PM
@Kerrylynn
LOL that so funny because its so true
May 9th, 2012 9:20 PM
I agree i hope Gibbs arrest her or she dies, goodness knows she needs to be off the show, its yuk to even watch it with her
May 9th, 2012 7:45 PM
love curtis as doc. ryan. she's great playing accross from jenthro.
May 9th, 2012 7:26 PM
PLEASE GET RID OF CURTIS ... SHE TAKES AWAY FROM THE REAL CHARACTERS IN THE SHOW ... JUST NOT A FIT.
May 9th, 2012 7:17 PM
Agree with your post Kerrylynn. They have really sacrificed Tony to give us superior queen Ziva. MW is such a handsome, charismatic and gifted actor, but tptb have diminished him to the point that he has been demoted from Senior Field Agent to the agent who needs to be insulted, one upped, and outdone nearly every week, so Ziva can shine. What a shame.
May 9th, 2012 7:02 PM
Glad to see that I have plenty of company on the "I hate Dr Ryan" wagon! I am hoping that next week will be the last we see of her. The character has no chemistry with Gibbs, she's too sneaky and dishonest. His gut is telling him not to trust her. I suspect she is involved with Dearing in some way. If she is Gibbs will bring her down, or kill her perhaps -either way is fine with me as long as she goes!! I also see that several other posters here would prefer Gibbs with Borin - I think that they would be a great couple.At least Borin's character is likeable,unlink Dr Ryan. JLC needs to go back to peddling yogurt!
May 9th, 2012 6:46 PM
I've been after the NCIS writers for years to knock off the ridiculous chiches about the show's main characters always being burdened with, cruel, dangerous or psychotic "love" interests -- and of course they never listen, but in JLC's character they have gone further down this sorry path than ever before! I have never been so completely repulsed by an NCIS character or major plotline as I am with this one!!!! They are staining the best show on television.
May 9th, 2012 6:34 PM
@MWK
The navy brass allowed the Cape Fear to blow up with the terrorist’s bomb aboard it. Just before the explosion, an inflatable boat filled with navy men in wet suits pulled up to the ship. I imagine all were killed in the explosion. If I were a parent of one of those men and found out, through my work (Dr. Ryan?), that the explosion was allowed to occur to prevent a negative public relation situation, I think I might be out for blood, also.
I had an impression “The Good Son” was Rocky’s (Vance) swan song. If so, the writers gave him a good send off. I would not be surprised if the finale keeps “Where’s Vance?” up in the air for the next season.
May 9th, 2012 6:02 PM
Okay, I think that if anyone is going to die on the show it is most likely Vance. He has just been kidnapped by this new villain; he has not been seen in an episode for some time now; and he is the only member of the cast we have not heard about with regards to if he will be signing a new contract. Hum… Is it just me or does that spell NCIS will be getting a new director?
With the new secretary of the navy in place he will need someone that is not in cahoots with Gibbs to undermine his authority. He (sec-nav) would want to put a director in place that is willing to cover up all of his indiscretions.
May 9th, 2012 5:51 PM
I have to agree i am getting sick of JLC and the writers not listening, she is not good for the show, she makes it all about her, and not the regular cast, its a naval crime drama, not a soap opera. I agree JLC got to go
May 9th, 2012 5:50 PM
Simply...good epi. Not the best.
JLC...like her, don't trust this character.
Tony...needs to be treated better, he is very intelligent very skilled quit picking on him.
Ziva...when did she get so elevated...I swear she is now Queen Bi+ch. She sure thinks more of herself!
Abby...still Queen of the Lab. Never gets the screen time she should.
Tim...At least they are treating him like a grownup now.
Rank: New User
May 9th, 2012 5:40 PM
These days I don't know what's going on half the time, I've been tuning out every time I see JLC. I'm watching the last two episodes because I need to see what is happening next season. I agree that this whole season has just been difficult to watch. I love me my NCIS, all the guys are doing an excellent job as usual but SHE NEEDS TO GO! Perhaps she could throw herself into Dearing's black hole of evil gloom and doom, you know sort of a la volcano,she could well be a non virginal sacrifice. I will watch the last episode and then next season the 1st to see how it plays out and who remains standing. After that if the lava or smoke as it were clears and she's still standing, I'll be watching something else. Jaime your curds are a callin' and since you started your arc, my digestive system has needed some tweaking. CBS are you listening??
May 9th, 2012 5:31 PM
Kudos to Curtis for her ability to play an extremely slimy, sneaky character. Gibbs simply can not stay romantically involved with her though I would like to see her in a recurring role as the brain gamer. Overall, a satisfying episode.
May 9th, 2012 5:26 PM
@ Will: I agree with every single word. Great post. :)