NCIS Review: Going Down in Flames Comments (Page 4)
126 Comments
Bonnie
May 9th, 2012 5:19 PM
Please get rid of Jamie Lee Curtis.She is bringing the show down.I can't stand her.I hope she turns out to be a bad guy and is done away with.
Sunshine
May 9th, 2012 4:30 PM
Why do so many persons dislike Ryan? She is female Gibbs: confident, complex, reserved and excellent at her job.
Hugh Eaton
May 9th, 2012 4:28 PM
(Note: This got omitted from my earlier post and should be read with that.)
The worst thing that can happen to a show is to get utterly predictable. If that happens people stop watching and the show gets cancelled. I think the writers/producers have attempted all season to add some unpredictability to the plot and venue. I don't know about you but I'm just a bit tired of being immersed in Abbey's roomful of electronic gizmos and listening to Ducky while he stands over a corpse with the chest cavity folded back.
So let's cut them some slack and see if they are digesting these comments. If Jamie Lee is back next season we'll know either they don't care what the viewers think about her character or they will soften her up. Would you be surprised if Vance leaves next week and Jamie Lee gets appointed Director of NCIS?
AJA
May 9th, 2012 4:26 PM
Well janet - they've put Tony and Ziva on two out of country missions together recently, and neither episode generated the numbers that the beginning to the middle of the season had. And even though nothing happened between them, fans could not know this ahead of time. I think the soapish romances and constant teasing hurt the show and tick viewers on both sides of the issue off. I just wish NCIS would stop trying to be the crime/romance genre and stop giving too much screen time to characters viewers don't even care much about.
Alisa
May 9th, 2012 4:20 PM
i'm getting SICK of tony being sidelined in favor of ziva.....gibbs SHOULD have called TONY, his SFA....i wouldn't blame weatherly if he decides he's had enough....the disrespect shown towards tony, by the WHOLE team....just like abby being picked as jimmy's "bestperson"....that should have been TONY'S.....i sure as HELL "DO NOT WANT TIVA".
alisa
Will
May 9th, 2012 4:14 PM
Not a particularly interesting episode.
The Harper Dearing arc carries little weight for me, since there was really no buildup for the character. It might've worked better had the Navy bombings not been clustered together for the last four episodes of the season, allowing the mystery to simmer first. But even then, the motive, such as is at the moment, is questionable.
"My son joined the Navy, but he died. So I'll just bomb Navy vessels until I get the attention of my newly christened archnemesis, LJ Gibbs."
Give me a break. Yet another example of being told how awesome an agent Gibbs is through the use of another throwaway villain with an axe to grind.
Vance's abduction was a disappointment on several levels, the first being the absolute lack of him in the episode. Way to shock and us, NCIS. Also, the waste of Rocky Carroll's talents is just...no words.
Ryan can go. I'm sick of her, and she comes off as a poor man's Jenny, only in PsyOps rather than NCIS.
Lynn Machel
May 9th, 2012 3:58 PM
I liked last nights episode but JLC HAS GOT TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Every time I see that superior, smug, I've got Gibbs look I want to reach through the screen and rip her face off. What an offensive character. She definitely needs to go. A writer on this site thinks maybe Dearing might be JLC'S ex husband. Sounds interesting. LOVE MCGEE and ABBY, please let them be together more often. Can't wait for the finale......... BUT I can't think of one episode that I will watch as a rerun. The season has been that disappointing!
Sunshine
May 9th, 2012 3:56 PM
I suspect that the only reason Vance was kidnapped is to ensure that Gibbs remains as the head. This is a Dearing vs Gibbs match.
Michael
May 9th, 2012 3:46 PM
well the ratings keep going up so NCIS must be doing samething right because their still number one
MissKatie
May 9th, 2012 3:26 PM
I found this episode boring. It seemed flat and it took me till this morning to figure it out. The team acted like a bunch of strangers who happened to be working on the same case. No connection within the team. Even at the worst of times, the team was connected. Last night they just worked side by side.TPTB are slowly destroying this show. How sad.
And Ryan-don't like, don't care about her at all.
MWK
May 9th, 2012 3:21 PM
I thought the plot lines were complicated and interesting. I trust NCIS to tie up loose ends, so I am not worried about the many tidbits not being eventually resolved. I also do not trust Ryan although it's only reading these comments that speculate about her and Dearing being relate in some way. If Gibbs represents the "evil" Dearing is trying to make war with, what is Gibbs's crime??? Gibbs is certainly not one to overlook shoddy workmanship that costs Navy lives. Worried about Vance. Kidnapping him was a real surprise. Loved the team's banter about the Bachelor party driving Jimmy crazy - this episode needed those bits of comic relief.
janet
May 9th, 2012 3:18 PM
annie the only reason the ratings are down is because there is a shortage of tiva
AJA
May 9th, 2012 2:49 PM
Preliminary ratings for last night were 17.8 million total and 3.0 in the 18 -49 demo. Seems like since they began ramping up the tiva spoilers and now the Gibbs and Dr. Ryan romance, the ratings have dropped a bit. The writers seem to be back to giving us mostly Gibbs episodes, with a generous side of super Ziva who seems to have replaced Tony as his best agent, since she is the one Gibbs calls and is paired with all the time. Maybe some viewers don't want the Gibbs and Ziva romance and adventure hour and like to see other equally popular characters get decent scenes and screen time too. At the beginning of the this season, other team members were featured in episodes, but now it seems we're back to super Gibbs and Ziva. Maybe that has something to do with the drop in viewer interest.
Sunshine
May 9th, 2012 2:14 PM
Let me start by saying I love Dr Samantha Ryan (Sam) and her relationship with Gibbs. I find it very entertaining how they are trying to 'read' each other, although based on Gibbs 'I don't know' outburst, he is becoming frustrated with trying to figure her out.
Overall, I trust Sam, however, because of her position at DOD, she does not give Gibbs all the details, he has to connect the dots, but the leads/hints are good. My only issue with Sam is whenever Gibbs asks her if she would have provided the information if he did not ask, she would always answer with a question. She has never said yes or no, instead she would say, 'what do you think?' or 'whose side do you think I am on?'
There is a definite boat theme with the arrival of Sam - her son's boat drawing, her boat drawing on a napkin, Gibbs reference to not wanting to rock the boat, the boat that Dearing left and subsequent picture of it.
Could it be that Dearing is Sam's ex husband?
Betty Hufnagel
May 9th, 2012 1:58 PM
The show last nite was great. Chris and I hate the cliff hangers but would not miss them. They need to let Abby give Palmer a great party in her own way. Will also be interesting what happens to the director as well.
Hey Bockylyn have I missed something, Tony and Ziva been lovers on the Q.T when did this happen? can anybody answer this question? I do love a bit of Tiva
gigi
May 9th, 2012 1:49 PM
Well, the ratings are out and it's another season low. They tied again with NCIS LA. It may be adjusted up a little when the finals come out, but TPTB have got to be getting concerned. I'm guessing the finale next week will be up in numbers, but if it's not they've got a real probalem developing...
The JLC experiment has failed. They need to get rid of her character and fast!
holycanolis1
May 9th, 2012 1:48 PM
boring epi. character development of harper dearing flawed big-time. another dumb unbelieveable character. suck-y. me thinks gg is the one 'going down in flames'. writin' piss poor. was over written. hate it when gg over explains everythin' in a scene. so many useless words beat me over the head last night. no friggin' mystery. no suspense. no nuance. entire episode was like that. actors over explain' to us in every friggin' scene what was happenin'. felt like i was sittin' through an hour long 'sit rep'. or one of those 'last week on ncis' recaps for an entire episode instead of bein' engaged to figure out what was up myself. way too much ryan & gibbs. it's like watchin' my parents in angsty love scenes. total turn-off. less is more w/ those 2. epi gave me a headache. another ncis epi under gg i won't ever watch again. lost my faith. gave the guy a break for so long. no more. speakin' my mind.
bbrou1335
May 9th, 2012 1:27 PM
Sarah, ducky signed 2 yr contract extension, so don't worry about the estate issues.
Great episode last night.
I don't trust Ryan at all. I don't know if she sent Gibbs on wild goose chase on purpose, or ny accident, but I don't like her. Gibbs may not talk much, but he certainly talks straight when he does.
Hugh Eaton
May 9th, 2012 1:13 PM
If a production assistant (aka gopher) reads these comments and writes a summary for the cast and writers, Jamie Lee has got to be one happy actress when she sees the deep ferver of the angst her character has created on NCIS. What a tribute to her acting ability!
I don't think any of us know for sure where this plot is headed but the writers are sure leaving crumbs leading us to believe Jamie Lee and Schiff's characters are in cahoots. There would be no surprise at all if Schiff is the only villain since he's already been identified.
It's sad but losing a cast member at some point is inevitable - remember Kate, Jennie and Tony's long time girl friend Jeanne - but the show survived with good ratings. These shows were written and video'd weeks ago so no one then knew who would or would not renew their contract. So if we lose somebody this week, I believe we can assume they either asked to be written out or it was decided the ensemble didn't need them any more. The worst thing tha
bockylyn
May 9th, 2012 12:49 PM
Now this is real drama every step of the way!! can't trust Ryan no way and I think Gibb's has got that she lie's and I think she is CIA or FBI and they all lie look at Kort he killed the Frog and took over.
I'm wondering if this some kind of test to see if NCIS can stop the worst kind of terrorist?
Now tony & Ziva have been lovers on the QT for a while but you know the Gibb's rule so they play the game. They have not had friends since JJ and CI-ray.
I think what is going to is Gibb's is going to say wait we have been looking at this the wrong way and then he will do the Gibb's thing solved it watch it.
l'empress
May 9th, 2012 12:36 PM
I am still not certain we can trust the current SECNAV. (Remember, he used to be a lobbyist. Is anyone slimier than that?)
CJ
May 9th, 2012 12:34 PM
I wonder whether Deering is Dr. Ryan's "ex"? The writers on several occasions brought up her 'ex' without ever expounding on it. I'm beginning to wonder. Is he and Ryan in cahoots with each other on this? Michael may have it right in his comment about the son possibly being killed on the Cape Fear? Remember, the Navy let the ship blow up out of sight of cameras. Was she talking to Deering on the phone as Gibbs showed up at her office?
Nubie
May 9th, 2012 12:33 PM
I agree w/ Mew, Editor & the reviewers about Dr. Ryan. UIS was an "ok" ep; I finally watched it late last night. Like someone said, there hasn't been ONE tv website (at least where I frequent) that hasn't had NCIS fans expressing their DISPLEASURE over Ryan's domineering persona. JLC is too "Masculine" for the role,and it is causing fans to be turned OFF by her, rather than embrace her. JLC was NOT a good choice to play the role of Ryan. I have never seen Gibbs act so....so.."confused" by a woman!! If being with her/trusting her is causing him THAT much anxiety, he truly needs to cut her loose, because it's getting ridiculous now. Ryan is not a popular character on NCIS, despite what "Gary Glasberg" thinks in his own mind.
Sarah
May 9th, 2012 12:33 PM
I also don't trust Ryan in the slightest and the same with Beth on Criminal Minds. And another thing, what about Ducky asking Gibbs to be in charge of his estate? I hope it is just him asking him about it and not something else. I don't want anything to happen to Ducky. It's probably nothing, but anything is possible with NCIS!!
Abby: I knew that guy was trouble. He's like an evil McGee.
May 9th, 2012 5:19 PM
Please get rid of Jamie Lee Curtis.She is bringing the show down.I can't stand her.I hope she turns out to be a bad guy and is done away with.
May 9th, 2012 4:30 PM
Why do so many persons dislike Ryan? She is female Gibbs: confident, complex, reserved and excellent at her job.
May 9th, 2012 4:28 PM
(Note: This got omitted from my earlier post and should be read with that.)
The worst thing that can happen to a show is to get utterly predictable. If that happens people stop watching and the show gets cancelled. I think the writers/producers have attempted all season to add some unpredictability to the plot and venue. I don't know about you but I'm just a bit tired of being immersed in Abbey's roomful of electronic gizmos and listening to Ducky while he stands over a corpse with the chest cavity folded back.
So let's cut them some slack and see if they are digesting these comments. If Jamie Lee is back next season we'll know either they don't care what the viewers think about her character or they will soften her up. Would you be surprised if Vance leaves next week and Jamie Lee gets appointed Director of NCIS?
May 9th, 2012 4:26 PM
Well janet - they've put Tony and Ziva on two out of country missions together recently, and neither episode generated the numbers that the beginning to the middle of the season had. And even though nothing happened between them, fans could not know this ahead of time. I think the soapish romances and constant teasing hurt the show and tick viewers on both sides of the issue off. I just wish NCIS would stop trying to be the crime/romance genre and stop giving too much screen time to characters viewers don't even care much about.
May 9th, 2012 4:20 PM
i'm getting SICK of tony being sidelined in favor of ziva.....gibbs SHOULD have called TONY, his SFA....i wouldn't blame weatherly if he decides he's had enough....the disrespect shown towards tony, by the WHOLE team....just like abby being picked as jimmy's "bestperson"....that should have been TONY'S.....i sure as HELL "DO NOT WANT TIVA".
alisa
May 9th, 2012 4:14 PM
Not a particularly interesting episode.
The Harper Dearing arc carries little weight for me, since there was really no buildup for the character. It might've worked better had the Navy bombings not been clustered together for the last four episodes of the season, allowing the mystery to simmer first. But even then, the motive, such as is at the moment, is questionable.
"My son joined the Navy, but he died. So I'll just bomb Navy vessels until I get the attention of my newly christened archnemesis, LJ Gibbs."
Give me a break. Yet another example of being told how awesome an agent Gibbs is through the use of another throwaway villain with an axe to grind.
Vance's abduction was a disappointment on several levels, the first being the absolute lack of him in the episode. Way to shock and us, NCIS. Also, the waste of Rocky Carroll's talents is just...no words.
Ryan can go. I'm sick of her, and she comes off as a poor man's Jenny, only in PsyOps rather than NCIS.
May 9th, 2012 3:58 PM
I liked last nights episode but JLC HAS GOT TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Every time I see that superior, smug, I've got Gibbs look I want to reach through the screen and rip her face off. What an offensive character. She definitely needs to go. A writer on this site thinks maybe Dearing might be JLC'S ex husband. Sounds interesting. LOVE MCGEE and ABBY, please let them be together more often. Can't wait for the finale......... BUT I can't think of one episode that I will watch as a rerun. The season has been that disappointing!
May 9th, 2012 3:56 PM
I suspect that the only reason Vance was kidnapped is to ensure that Gibbs remains as the head. This is a Dearing vs Gibbs match.
May 9th, 2012 3:46 PM
well the ratings keep going up so NCIS must be doing samething right because their still number one
May 9th, 2012 3:26 PM
I found this episode boring. It seemed flat and it took me till this morning to figure it out. The team acted like a bunch of strangers who happened to be working on the same case. No connection within the team. Even at the worst of times, the team was connected. Last night they just worked side by side.TPTB are slowly destroying this show. How sad.
And Ryan-don't like, don't care about her at all.
May 9th, 2012 3:21 PM
I thought the plot lines were complicated and interesting. I trust NCIS to tie up loose ends, so I am not worried about the many tidbits not being eventually resolved. I also do not trust Ryan although it's only reading these comments that speculate about her and Dearing being relate in some way. If Gibbs represents the "evil" Dearing is trying to make war with, what is Gibbs's crime??? Gibbs is certainly not one to overlook shoddy workmanship that costs Navy lives. Worried about Vance. Kidnapping him was a real surprise. Loved the team's banter about the Bachelor party driving Jimmy crazy - this episode needed those bits of comic relief.
May 9th, 2012 3:18 PM
annie the only reason the ratings are down is because there is a shortage of tiva
May 9th, 2012 2:49 PM
Preliminary ratings for last night were 17.8 million total and 3.0 in the 18 -49 demo. Seems like since they began ramping up the tiva spoilers and now the Gibbs and Dr. Ryan romance, the ratings have dropped a bit. The writers seem to be back to giving us mostly Gibbs episodes, with a generous side of super Ziva who seems to have replaced Tony as his best agent, since she is the one Gibbs calls and is paired with all the time. Maybe some viewers don't want the Gibbs and Ziva romance and adventure hour and like to see other equally popular characters get decent scenes and screen time too. At the beginning of the this season, other team members were featured in episodes, but now it seems we're back to super Gibbs and Ziva. Maybe that has something to do with the drop in viewer interest.
May 9th, 2012 2:14 PM
Let me start by saying I love Dr Samantha Ryan (Sam) and her relationship with Gibbs. I find it very entertaining how they are trying to 'read' each other, although based on Gibbs 'I don't know' outburst, he is becoming frustrated with trying to figure her out.
Overall, I trust Sam, however, because of her position at DOD, she does not give Gibbs all the details, he has to connect the dots, but the leads/hints are good. My only issue with Sam is whenever Gibbs asks her if she would have provided the information if he did not ask, she would always answer with a question. She has never said yes or no, instead she would say, 'what do you think?' or 'whose side do you think I am on?'
There is a definite boat theme with the arrival of Sam - her son's boat drawing, her boat drawing on a napkin, Gibbs reference to not wanting to rock the boat, the boat that Dearing left and subsequent picture of it.
Could it be that Dearing is Sam's ex husband?
May 9th, 2012 1:58 PM
The show last nite was great. Chris and I hate the cliff hangers but would not miss them. They need to let Abby give Palmer a great party in her own way. Will also be interesting what happens to the director as well.
Rank: Extra
May 9th, 2012 1:54 PM
Hey Bockylyn have I missed something, Tony and Ziva been lovers on the Q.T when did this happen? can anybody answer this question? I do love a bit of Tiva
May 9th, 2012 1:49 PM
Well, the ratings are out and it's another season low. They tied again with NCIS LA. It may be adjusted up a little when the finals come out, but TPTB have got to be getting concerned. I'm guessing the finale next week will be up in numbers, but if it's not they've got a real probalem developing...
The JLC experiment has failed. They need to get rid of her character and fast!
May 9th, 2012 1:48 PM
boring epi. character development of harper dearing flawed big-time. another dumb unbelieveable character. suck-y. me thinks gg is the one 'going down in flames'. writin' piss poor. was over written. hate it when gg over explains everythin' in a scene. so many useless words beat me over the head last night. no friggin' mystery. no suspense. no nuance. entire episode was like that. actors over explain' to us in every friggin' scene what was happenin'. felt like i was sittin' through an hour long 'sit rep'. or one of those 'last week on ncis' recaps for an entire episode instead of bein' engaged to figure out what was up myself. way too much ryan & gibbs. it's like watchin' my parents in angsty love scenes. total turn-off. less is more w/ those 2. epi gave me a headache. another ncis epi under gg i won't ever watch again. lost my faith. gave the guy a break for so long. no more. speakin' my mind.
May 9th, 2012 1:27 PM
Sarah, ducky signed 2 yr contract extension, so don't worry about the estate issues.
Great episode last night.
I don't trust Ryan at all. I don't know if she sent Gibbs on wild goose chase on purpose, or ny accident, but I don't like her. Gibbs may not talk much, but he certainly talks straight when he does.
May 9th, 2012 1:13 PM
If a production assistant (aka gopher) reads these comments and writes a summary for the cast and writers, Jamie Lee has got to be one happy actress when she sees the deep ferver of the angst her character has created on NCIS. What a tribute to her acting ability!
I don't think any of us know for sure where this plot is headed but the writers are sure leaving crumbs leading us to believe Jamie Lee and Schiff's characters are in cahoots. There would be no surprise at all if Schiff is the only villain since he's already been identified.
It's sad but losing a cast member at some point is inevitable - remember Kate, Jennie and Tony's long time girl friend Jeanne - but the show survived with good ratings. These shows were written and video'd weeks ago so no one then knew who would or would not renew their contract. So if we lose somebody this week, I believe we can assume they either asked to be written out or it was decided the ensemble didn't need them any more. The worst thing tha
May 9th, 2012 12:49 PM
Now this is real drama every step of the way!! can't trust Ryan no way and I think Gibb's has got that she lie's and I think she is CIA or FBI and they all lie look at Kort he killed the Frog and took over.
I'm wondering if this some kind of test to see if NCIS can stop the worst kind of terrorist?
Now tony & Ziva have been lovers on the QT for a while but you know the Gibb's rule so they play the game. They have not had friends since JJ and CI-ray.
I think what is going to is Gibb's is going to say wait we have been looking at this the wrong way and then he will do the Gibb's thing solved it watch it.
May 9th, 2012 12:36 PM
I am still not certain we can trust the current SECNAV. (Remember, he used to be a lobbyist. Is anyone slimier than that?)
May 9th, 2012 12:34 PM
I wonder whether Deering is Dr. Ryan's "ex"? The writers on several occasions brought up her 'ex' without ever expounding on it. I'm beginning to wonder. Is he and Ryan in cahoots with each other on this? Michael may have it right in his comment about the son possibly being killed on the Cape Fear? Remember, the Navy let the ship blow up out of sight of cameras. Was she talking to Deering on the phone as Gibbs showed up at her office?
May 9th, 2012 12:33 PM
I agree w/ Mew, Editor & the reviewers about Dr. Ryan. UIS was an "ok" ep; I finally watched it late last night. Like someone said, there hasn't been ONE tv website (at least where I frequent) that hasn't had NCIS fans expressing their DISPLEASURE over Ryan's domineering persona. JLC is too "Masculine" for the role,and it is causing fans to be turned OFF by her, rather than embrace her. JLC was NOT a good choice to play the role of Ryan. I have never seen Gibbs act so....so.."confused" by a woman!! If being with her/trusting her is causing him THAT much anxiety, he truly needs to cut her loose, because it's getting ridiculous now. Ryan is not a popular character on NCIS, despite what "Gary Glasberg" thinks in his own mind.
May 9th, 2012 12:33 PM
I also don't trust Ryan in the slightest and the same with Beth on Criminal Minds. And another thing, what about Ducky asking Gibbs to be in charge of his estate? I hope it is just him asking him about it and not something else. I don't want anything to happen to Ducky. It's probably nothing, but anything is possible with NCIS!!