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Elena is eighteen years old. That does not give her sage wisdom in the midst of war. you do not let a teenager make all the decisions- most of which are emotionally swayed by the way- in times of war. I also agree that Damon taking away Elena's choice is s2- feeding her blood was very wrong- something an emotionally turbulent Damon did- but he recognized his mistake and rushed to fix it the best he could. he STILL kept her alive. The elixir may well not have worked Elena being the doppelganger. Stefan was willing to sit tight AGAIN while Elena might have potentially died. There is one thing in humoring a child in making their decisions to keep them happy. There is another thing about letting a freshly turned adult like Elena to make her own decisions to allow her to learn from her mistakes, grow as a person and learn to choose smartly. But these are life and death decisions. It's a completely different thing- it's irresponsible to just let her do what she WANTS without any logic to it. Stefan should have saved Elena before Matt. What he did- was bizarre. Was he really prepared to let her die just because he is so AFRAID of her hating him? I don't appreciate caveman Damon. But if it were Damon out there it would have never come to this. Stefan can be called truly weak for NEVER saying no to Elena. Like, at all. Doesn't he have his own personality or does he just mold it to fit into hers? Damon has no business hurting Elena or forcing her choices for her but this is war. And in war, tough decisions have to made and it seems like Damon is the only one who keeps his head through most of it all. Matt and Jeremy (and usually, i find the both of them decent enough)and their attempt at illogical heroism today was truly laughable. Yes, that was dumb.

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And I want it to last. I do. And I have so many reasons.
First of all, everyone goes on about how "Stefan" let's Elena make her own decisions blah, blah, blah, freewill is love and I agree that Damon's caveman attitude can be demeaning. But here's the thing- Stefan is so obedient to Elena's demands that he let her die. She's dead and it's his fault. Damon was right in one respect- he would have kept her alive.
Elena is eighteen years old. That does not give her sage wisdom in the midst of war. you do not let a teenager make all the decisions- most of which are emotionally swayed by the way- in times of war. I also agree that Damon taking away Elena's choice is s2- feeding her blood was very wrong- something an emotionally turbulent Damon did- but he recognized his mistake and rushed to fix it the best he could. he STILL kept her alive. The elixir may well not have worked Elena being the doppelganger. Stefan was willing to sit tight AGAIN while Elena might have potentially died. There is one thing in humoring a child in making their decisions to keep them happy. There is another thing about letting a freshly turned adult like Elena to make her own decisions to allow her to learn from her mistakes, grow as a person and learn to choose smartly. But these are life and death decisions. It's a completely different thing- it's irresponsible to just let her do what she WANTS without any logic to it. Stefan should have saved Elena before Matt. What he did- was bizarre. Was he really prepared to let her die just because he is so AFRAID of her hating him? I don't appreciate caveman Damon. But if it were Damon out there it would have never come to this. Stefan can be called truly weak for NEVER saying no to Elena. Like, at all. Doesn't he have his own personality or does he just mold it to fit into hers?

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I thought it was great! TVD hadn't left me with the need to have more for a long time!
I think the writers are making the path for delena, I mean, elena will now remerber their first encounter, then the "I lve you" that damon told her in season 2, plus she kept saying in this ep that stefan made her glad to be alive.. well she is not anymore!!! she'll let her feelings for damon come to the surface!!!!
I hope the writers know how to handle that!

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@Matt Richenthal
You guys really need to do something about my comments just cutting off.
So what was I saying. Oh yeah. I agree the love triangle was over done by now. So much so that even if she HAD picked Damon i wouldn't have reacted too much. But it was still the Delena scenes that struck me. When she cried as she called- the tone of her voice when she said he consumes me. I agree she did the right thing- she DOES love Stefan. Elena is not the same person she was before the accident- that girl would have loved Damon- this one is more cautious. It's not fair for her to choose him even when she IS still so hung over Stefan, irreversibly so. She has always chosen Stefan over Damon. Until she can successfully do it the other way around at ALL she should not pick damon because how could it last?

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-They were bought more time. That is why I wanted her to choose Stefan even if I'm all about Delena. I knew just yet Delena wouldn't have worked especially after s3 Damon Elena bonding which we had already seen. Vampire Elena was the best move they could have made and they did.
the show lives through excitement and unexpected and adventure and emotion. That is what makes this show. And vampire Elena does the trick. In retrospect I am very glad she'll finally remember everything Damon ever said to her- things that were worth too much. Also it's kind of sad how last season everyone was SO bent on not letting Elena turn into a vampire and ultimately ALL they were doing was buying her a bit of time.

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I love the Vampire diaries. But this season finale? not so much. The only scene that stood out for me at ALL was Damon telling Elena what she wanted- and when he said, "I want you to get everything you're looking for." He was charming and cute and everything season 1 Damon was. It was believable. Elena as a vampire? did NOT see that coming. Do not think she knew. Did not believe it for a good minute. DID believe they might actually....kill her off but i think it was actually a very smart move. S3 proved how the show had REALLY begun to drag so vampire Elena freshens it up when it desperately needed freshening. At this point, either Damon, nor Stefan would have been that refreshing a choice for Elena to make. And i STILL think Elena hasn't let damon in enough to have chosen him. Stefan is still that obsession she has- she can't let go of safety in so much mayhem. That makes sense. Elena needs to feel liberated and strong before she can choose Damon. They need more time. They were bought more time. That is why I wanted her to choose Stefan even if I'm all about Delena. I knew just yet Delena wouldn't have worked especially after s3 Damon Elena bonding which we had already seen. Vampire Elena was the best move they could have made and they did.

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Is it weird that Damon, in his flashback, seems a little too nice for Season 1 Damon? And, he seemed pretty accepting that Elena was Katherine but looked like her twin…

I don't think it's weird. The explanation I find for myself is, season 1 Damon was 'bad' because he wanted to make Stefan miserable/he wanted his brother/his aim was to get Katherine out of the tomb, and along the way he fell for Elena. And I think he was shocked instead of accepting, but controlled himself from letting Elena sense anything if you get what I mean.

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So Elena wakes up as a vampire and remembers all that has happened between her and Damon? It does not mean that she will fall into his arms and say she loved him all along since the night they had a 3 min conversation...People, get real. Its JP's way of creating more fuss around this "triangle" because they finally realized the can't keep going in circles with Damon pining for Elena who loves Stefan and has unresolved feelings for Damon. Just because she will remember all that it does not automatically mean she will forget all her feelings for Stefan, it will simply mean that if the triangle will start developing as it should have all along, not 2 seasons later.

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The show lost me on this one. Bored with Stefan, Klaus, and Eloric - disgusted with Elena, there's gotta be something better out there to spend my hour a week on. And I agree with all the other comments about the season finale seeming to be disjointed, nonsensical, and worthless. BTW - what's with it with all these stupid flashbacks anyway? Seems everyone of my favorite shows punted at the end of the season by spending most of the time making up the past instead of coming up with new material. Just plain lazy - and also boring.

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@Mel
I don't mind who Elena ends up with since I'm team Salvatore but all this nonsense where fans let themselves be blinded to fact due to ship preference really grates me. She was not compelled to love Stefan. They shared a connection and she fell in love with him. Plain as that. Damon compelled her to forget the conversation they had (slightly OOC for S1 Damon) and that he hoped and wanted her to get everything she wanted. He didn't say love my brother, find that with my brother nor did his compulsion in any impact the Stefan/Elena meeting. Don't take something away from a couple who saved each other emotionally to bolster the other. Both couples have their own connection.




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