NCIS to Explore Love ... in an Elevator? Comments (Page 3)
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Amanda
July 8th, 2012 2:13 PM
Michael, you are the joke of this fandom. Go on Tumblr, everybody is laughing at you.
EmDizzle
July 8th, 2012 2:35 AM
OMG!! I am totally a Tiva fan and have been dying for them to get together. Oh I just wish they would hurry up and bring on Season 10 but I know it'll be a while. I was devastated at the finale and I'm glad Ducky makes it - wouldn't be the same if he left - or if any of them left for a matter of fact. Can't live without them!! :) :)
Blackwidow
July 7th, 2012 2:45 PM
Wow! My first time commenting on any TV show. Where I live people don't like Ziva because she's been in the US 8 years (?) but still doesn't correctly speak english slang. Honestly I never really noticed before a friend pointed it out.
I think the dynamics of the show would change if Ziva and Tony dated. It would make them lousy agents because it would most definitely affect their job! NCIS is good because of all the characters. Although McGee looks ill. Haven't heard any reports that he is ill but he looks sick.
Crizzi
July 7th, 2012 12:17 PM
First of all I want to say a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge sorry for my bad english, I'm still learning so... I hope you understand what I write
I hope Tony and Ziva get together finaly, and even with me being a Ziva fan, I would like the show more if the focus wouldn't be on ONE character for so long. they make it like Gibbs Gibbs Gibbs Abby Abby Tony Tony Tony Tony Ducky Ducky Ducky Ducky Ziva Ziva Ziva McGee McGee Vance Vance Palmer Palmer... I think it would be better if it was Ziva Abby Ducky Tony (I think we already now waaaaaaaay more about Gibbs than about the others) no Vance and a little Palmer, One pro Episode and not one pro Season! and I'd LOVE to see more about the past (e.g: Ziva and her family when she's a child or Tony's mother or so
erin
July 7th, 2012 11:20 AM
Gibb's rule 12 really holds no water. He dates people he works with. They may not be NCIS agents, but they are co-workers...Col Mann, Dr Ryan, Jenny Shepard. You might even count the lawyer lady (can't recall character name) that was working with clients having to deal with NCIS. I think Gibbs would actually be happy to see them finally get together. He thinks very highly of Tony and Ziva is like a daughter to him. In fact I could see him giving both of them a head slap and telling them "It's about time, just keep it out of the office!"
AJA
July 6th, 2012 2:09 PM
Fair enough Dani. I agree that at its best, NCIS is a team show. However Gibbs and Ziva have been the focus for years now, and the show has quite lost its team feel for several seasons now. I really feel that the focus and fanwanking of the character Ziva has greatly damaged the intelligence and formerly light hearted, pleasant, and subtle interactions between all the other characters. I do realize that CdP fans undoubtedly love the focus on her. I just wish Tony and others as well hadn't been diminished in the process. Tony wasn't always limited to being the butt of the joke and over aged frat boy. Before the show had to force Ziva to be the other be all/end all character (besides Gibbs) Tony's character was allowed to have many other interesting and character flattering dimensions. These were cast aside when it was decided he could be sacrificed to make Ziva super.
Dani
July 6th, 2012 11:58 AM
Hi Aja. I can appreciate your fervent devotion to MW/Tony - truly a fine actor, but not one that could ever carry NCIS alone. The Casanova/goofball role suits him well, but everyone in the cast has their place; that's why this cast is special . But in all fairness to others, it would seem to me that you should be able to appreciate the fact that the fanbase for other NCIS characters - such as Ziva or Abby - are just as passionate about their favorite too! Yet it seems you spend an awful lot of time on here making snide, nasty remarks about Ziva & offending fans who equally appreciate HER -but when Tony gets mentioned in a negative way (and lets face it Tony can be a Jerk sometimes), you seem to have a hard time dealing with it. Remember we are all entitled to our favorites & our opinions as fans.
Michael
July 6th, 2012 11:43 AM
I think MW could carry NCIS he almost had too back in season 4 when Mark almost quit/got fire because of Tiva
AJA
July 6th, 2012 1:20 AM
Well Dani, while I know that many fans would continue to watch NCIS without MW, I for one would not. Every character has their devoted fanbase. I disagree that MW could not carry a show on his own. He is a very versatile, talented, and engaging actor. On those rare occasions when his character gets featured with serious treatment on NCIS, the guy knocks it out of the park.
janet
July 5th, 2012 10:39 PM
@Nat hi nat always love reading your comments and as usual you said it all and so rightly.
Dani
July 5th, 2012 2:23 PM
Hello - I'm browsing & reading these comments and can't help but wonder if some of you actually pay Attention to NCIS?? Sorry if I offend, but have to be honest. This show is successful b/c of the entire cast - NOT JUST one actor IN the cast. Weatherly is a fine actor for sure, but he is NOT "all that". He could NEVER, ever carry the show alone - I don't care what "Tony only" fans think. He's NO Mark Harmon. GIBBS is the star of the show, so the only star that matters if they "left the show" would be him. No Gibbs = No NCIS. This is NCIS, NOT TCIS. The masses tune in to watch the TEAM, not just one character. MW is no fool; he LOVES working w/ CdP (and vice versa) and clearly sees the huge value of their characters' close relationship, as do the writers. They will handle the Tiva relationship with great care, of that I am sure - especially with so many millions watching & waiting.
MzLady
July 5th, 2012 1:49 PM
Agree w/ with the comments below. The TEAM is "great". Tony is "super"; Ziva is "super" and TOGETHER they are forever all the MORE "super", and fans agree. Some clearly can't handle the "super" RATINGS that are generated by this awesome duo being together - but make no mistake: CBS certainly can. In the end that is all that matters. I look forward to seeing how Daddy Gibbs will react to Tiva - but I have a feeling he already knows anyways. Tony kind of revealed his feelings to Gibbs anyways 3 seasons ago. To Jinx: Yeah I would love to see some sort of storyline where either Tony or Ziva get assigned to another locale temporarily & the duo are away from each other. They say absence makes the heart grow even fonder, so I'd LOVE to see what Tony would do if he had to be separated from her for a long period of time. You KNOW he wouldn't stand for that!!!
Nat
July 5th, 2012 1:36 PM
(cont'd)
publicly has already stated. It's NEVER about any actor's opinion; it's about the SHOW & following through on what the viewing audience has ocme to expect, which shall forever take precedence over any personal views.
Nat
July 5th, 2012 1:33 PM
Newsflash: The writers WILL go the Tiva route "regardless of Rule 12". Throwing up "#12" as a means of argument is as moot as the tired complaints about Ziva's & Tony's past mistakes - since the decision has already been made. Mr. Harmon himself has already alluded to this very thing. Unless in denial, even the most jaded viewer can see that something will happen between Tony DiNozzo & his leading lady, as was intended from the beginning by the man who created the show in the 1st place. Gibbs DID speak out against EJ messing with Tony BECAUSE of #12 - same team or not. It's all the same to him. We've dealt w/ this before in previous episodes, so this is nothing new to fans who are actually familiar w/ the series history. TO CAROL: the reason why you're only hearing it is b/c it was intentially created by one fan who doesn't want to see Tiva happen. To them I say good luck with that. MW is a professional, and he's in it for the long haul until the end regardless, as he publicly
Tiva, Sounds interesting.... Tony and Ziva look so cute together. I love to see them together in any NCIS episode.
AJA
July 5th, 2012 11:25 AM
For Carol Gburek - Don't worry - it is mere fan speculation that MW might not return for season 10. The status of contract negotiations for MW, PP, and SM regarding season 10 have not been made public. Some of us Tony fans however worry about his return, because in the last few years the writing of his character has been quite demeaning. He is always written as wrong with Ziva and McGee smugly right, is almost never cast in the exciting danger scenes, as these all go to Ziva or/and Gibbs now, and he is the butt of every joke. Add to that, that MW has not really supported the idea of tiva (which is really also demeaning to his character, since Ziva treats him like scum most of the time, and one has to wonder if MW might just be frustrated enough to move on to somewhere where his talents might be better appreciated and utilized.
Carol Gburek
July 5th, 2012 10:57 AM
This is the first I heard that Michael Weatherly might be quitting for Season 10. Please say this isn't so? He is the best part of the show
with his character of Tony DiNozzo. Please let him stay!
AJA
July 5th, 2012 10:05 AM
I disagree with the assertion that being on the same team is the same as being in the same agency, regarding romance between co workers. I think that Gibbs has always been against agents who are on the same team becoming romantically involved because he knows from personal experience, that it is dangerous. When he got upset with Tony over EJ, it was precisely because he saw that EJ's presence was affecting Tony's concentration at work, and they weren't even on the same team. If the writers decide to go the tiva route regardless of Rule 12, I think it will sink the NCIS ship to the level of soap opera, rather than being a crime show. I really hope NCIS doesn't fall into the "sex sells" trap, but it may already be too late.
And to Mike - If MW quits, my guess is that they will waste no time getting a new hunk in to admire super Ziva. But the many other aspects of Tony, could never be replaced.
Mike
July 4th, 2012 12:17 PM
So what will happen if michael wealthery quits ?
Jinx
July 3rd, 2012 10:51 PM
Well MzLady, I like how you suggested Ziva moving because I never would have thought of that!! We all know that by the end of the series it will happen... The directors and writers admitted it in a video.. The said it was going to happen they just don't know when... Neither do we!!
Gaby Peralta
July 2nd, 2012 4:16 PM
COMO ME GUSTA TODOS LOS COMETARIOS DE UDS. Y QUIERO PREGUNTAR SI FUE LA TRADUCION QUE SE HIZO ACA EN MEXICO, PERO CUANDO ZIVA Y TONY ESTAN CONVERSANDO DE LO QUE ODIAN DE LAS BODAS..DESPUES DE QUE ZIVA PREGUNTA...¿ FUGARTE?, GIBBS SE DIRIJE A ELLOS Y DICE: "A MI ME VALE", " QUE ME TIENEN?", SI EL SIEMPRE SABE TODO, PUES YO INTERPRETO QUE..PUES ESTA PONIENDO EL SEMAFORO EN VERDE...PERO ASI LO INTERPRETO YO POR LA TRADUCCION.
julia
July 2nd, 2012 2:06 PM
I LOVE NCIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I Think Tony and Ziva should get married.............
MzLady
July 2nd, 2012 12:13 PM
@Jinx - Hi! Oh, trust me, I know exactly what "proof" you're talking about. I am a fan who usually catches the fine details that others tend to miss :0)I'm not worried about whether or not T/Z will happen; I was just responding to your previous post regarding Rule #12. To Aja: I understand your point, but I think you're missing the one that's already been made by the show's canon itself: To Gibbs, being "on the same team" & "in the same agency" are one and the same. EJ & Tony DID violate Rule #12, according to him. He told EJ to her face: "My team...my rules". Trying to differentiate as to which scenario violates Rule #12 more is like splitting hairs. Again: Rule 51 eventually superscedes Rule 12 - which was already violated originally by Gibbs himself. Harmon actually commented on this issue on the S8 DVD set. When Tony takes over as leader @ the end, Ziva may indeed be moved to another dept within NCIS so they can freely have a relationship. Who knows..
Michael
July 2nd, 2012 9:04 AM
I am hoping and praying that Vance will fire either Tony or Ziva for that
Binx
July 2nd, 2012 4:41 AM
It rankled to see both Tony and Ziva step into that elevator during an evacuation; I'd have thought they were smarter than that. First thing you learn when evacuating a building is NOT to board an elevator...for various reasons.
To me, it was just another way of inserting a Tiva moment...for the Tiva fans...as if they're the only ones that count. I, for one, am against any serious relationship between the characters and not because of Rule #12. I used to be McAbby, but Abs will have to grow up! Her attitude is just...off and Gibbs just tolerates that. And McGee? Whenever they turn up with a promising love interest for our Geek on the team; they turn her into a baddie...or just write her off at some remote point (re: Max, the gamer girl from Kill Screen). I really don't see the fun in that... All there is, is the UST of Tiva and McAbby. As for Gibbs; where's Hollis Mann?
Abby: I knew that guy was trouble. He's like an evil McGee.
July 8th, 2012 2:13 PM
Michael, you are the joke of this fandom. Go on Tumblr, everybody is laughing at you.
July 8th, 2012 2:35 AM
OMG!! I am totally a Tiva fan and have been dying for them to get together. Oh I just wish they would hurry up and bring on Season 10 but I know it'll be a while. I was devastated at the finale and I'm glad Ducky makes it - wouldn't be the same if he left - or if any of them left for a matter of fact. Can't live without them!! :) :)
July 7th, 2012 2:45 PM
Wow! My first time commenting on any TV show. Where I live people don't like Ziva because she's been in the US 8 years (?) but still doesn't correctly speak english slang. Honestly I never really noticed before a friend pointed it out.
I think the dynamics of the show would change if Ziva and Tony dated. It would make them lousy agents because it would most definitely affect their job! NCIS is good because of all the characters. Although McGee looks ill. Haven't heard any reports that he is ill but he looks sick.
July 7th, 2012 12:17 PM
First of all I want to say a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge sorry for my bad english, I'm still learning so... I hope you understand what I write
I hope Tony and Ziva get together finaly, and even with me being a Ziva fan, I would like the show more if the focus wouldn't be on ONE character for so long. they make it like Gibbs Gibbs Gibbs Abby Abby Tony Tony Tony Tony Ducky Ducky Ducky Ducky Ziva Ziva Ziva McGee McGee Vance Vance Palmer Palmer... I think it would be better if it was Ziva Abby Ducky Tony (I think we already now waaaaaaaay more about Gibbs than about the others) no Vance and a little Palmer, One pro Episode and not one pro Season! and I'd LOVE to see more about the past (e.g: Ziva and her family when she's a child or Tony's mother or so
July 7th, 2012 11:20 AM
Gibb's rule 12 really holds no water. He dates people he works with. They may not be NCIS agents, but they are co-workers...Col Mann, Dr Ryan, Jenny Shepard. You might even count the lawyer lady (can't recall character name) that was working with clients having to deal with NCIS. I think Gibbs would actually be happy to see them finally get together. He thinks very highly of Tony and Ziva is like a daughter to him. In fact I could see him giving both of them a head slap and telling them "It's about time, just keep it out of the office!"
July 6th, 2012 2:09 PM
Fair enough Dani. I agree that at its best, NCIS is a team show. However Gibbs and Ziva have been the focus for years now, and the show has quite lost its team feel for several seasons now. I really feel that the focus and fanwanking of the character Ziva has greatly damaged the intelligence and formerly light hearted, pleasant, and subtle interactions between all the other characters. I do realize that CdP fans undoubtedly love the focus on her. I just wish Tony and others as well hadn't been diminished in the process. Tony wasn't always limited to being the butt of the joke and over aged frat boy. Before the show had to force Ziva to be the other be all/end all character (besides Gibbs) Tony's character was allowed to have many other interesting and character flattering dimensions. These were cast aside when it was decided he could be sacrificed to make Ziva super.
July 6th, 2012 11:58 AM
Hi Aja. I can appreciate your fervent devotion to MW/Tony - truly a fine actor, but not one that could ever carry NCIS alone. The Casanova/goofball role suits him well, but everyone in the cast has their place; that's why this cast is special . But in all fairness to others, it would seem to me that you should be able to appreciate the fact that the fanbase for other NCIS characters - such as Ziva or Abby - are just as passionate about their favorite too! Yet it seems you spend an awful lot of time on here making snide, nasty remarks about Ziva & offending fans who equally appreciate HER -but when Tony gets mentioned in a negative way (and lets face it Tony can be a Jerk sometimes), you seem to have a hard time dealing with it. Remember we are all entitled to our favorites & our opinions as fans.
July 6th, 2012 11:43 AM
I think MW could carry NCIS he almost had too back in season 4 when Mark almost quit/got fire because of Tiva
July 6th, 2012 1:20 AM
Well Dani, while I know that many fans would continue to watch NCIS without MW, I for one would not. Every character has their devoted fanbase. I disagree that MW could not carry a show on his own. He is a very versatile, talented, and engaging actor. On those rare occasions when his character gets featured with serious treatment on NCIS, the guy knocks it out of the park.
July 5th, 2012 10:39 PM
@Nat hi nat always love reading your comments and as usual you said it all and so rightly.
July 5th, 2012 2:23 PM
Hello - I'm browsing & reading these comments and can't help but wonder if some of you actually pay Attention to NCIS?? Sorry if I offend, but have to be honest. This show is successful b/c of the entire cast - NOT JUST one actor IN the cast. Weatherly is a fine actor for sure, but he is NOT "all that". He could NEVER, ever carry the show alone - I don't care what "Tony only" fans think. He's NO Mark Harmon. GIBBS is the star of the show, so the only star that matters if they "left the show" would be him. No Gibbs = No NCIS. This is NCIS, NOT TCIS. The masses tune in to watch the TEAM, not just one character. MW is no fool; he LOVES working w/ CdP (and vice versa) and clearly sees the huge value of their characters' close relationship, as do the writers. They will handle the Tiva relationship with great care, of that I am sure - especially with so many millions watching & waiting.
July 5th, 2012 1:49 PM
Agree w/ with the comments below. The TEAM is "great". Tony is "super"; Ziva is "super" and TOGETHER they are forever all the MORE "super", and fans agree. Some clearly can't handle the "super" RATINGS that are generated by this awesome duo being together - but make no mistake: CBS certainly can. In the end that is all that matters. I look forward to seeing how Daddy Gibbs will react to Tiva - but I have a feeling he already knows anyways. Tony kind of revealed his feelings to Gibbs anyways 3 seasons ago. To Jinx: Yeah I would love to see some sort of storyline where either Tony or Ziva get assigned to another locale temporarily & the duo are away from each other. They say absence makes the heart grow even fonder, so I'd LOVE to see what Tony would do if he had to be separated from her for a long period of time. You KNOW he wouldn't stand for that!!!
July 5th, 2012 1:36 PM
(cont'd)
publicly has already stated. It's NEVER about any actor's opinion; it's about the SHOW & following through on what the viewing audience has ocme to expect, which shall forever take precedence over any personal views.
July 5th, 2012 1:33 PM
Newsflash: The writers WILL go the Tiva route "regardless of Rule 12". Throwing up "#12" as a means of argument is as moot as the tired complaints about Ziva's & Tony's past mistakes - since the decision has already been made. Mr. Harmon himself has already alluded to this very thing. Unless in denial, even the most jaded viewer can see that something will happen between Tony DiNozzo & his leading lady, as was intended from the beginning by the man who created the show in the 1st place. Gibbs DID speak out against EJ messing with Tony BECAUSE of #12 - same team or not. It's all the same to him. We've dealt w/ this before in previous episodes, so this is nothing new to fans who are actually familiar w/ the series history. TO CAROL: the reason why you're only hearing it is b/c it was intentially created by one fan who doesn't want to see Tiva happen. To them I say good luck with that. MW is a professional, and he's in it for the long haul until the end regardless, as he publicly
Rank: Guest Star
July 5th, 2012 1:20 PM
Tiva, Sounds interesting.... Tony and Ziva look so cute together. I love to see them together in any NCIS episode.
July 5th, 2012 11:25 AM
For Carol Gburek - Don't worry - it is mere fan speculation that MW might not return for season 10. The status of contract negotiations for MW, PP, and SM regarding season 10 have not been made public. Some of us Tony fans however worry about his return, because in the last few years the writing of his character has been quite demeaning. He is always written as wrong with Ziva and McGee smugly right, is almost never cast in the exciting danger scenes, as these all go to Ziva or/and Gibbs now, and he is the butt of every joke. Add to that, that MW has not really supported the idea of tiva (which is really also demeaning to his character, since Ziva treats him like scum most of the time, and one has to wonder if MW might just be frustrated enough to move on to somewhere where his talents might be better appreciated and utilized.
July 5th, 2012 10:57 AM
This is the first I heard that Michael Weatherly might be quitting for Season 10. Please say this isn't so? He is the best part of the show
with his character of Tony DiNozzo. Please let him stay!
July 5th, 2012 10:05 AM
I disagree with the assertion that being on the same team is the same as being in the same agency, regarding romance between co workers. I think that Gibbs has always been against agents who are on the same team becoming romantically involved because he knows from personal experience, that it is dangerous. When he got upset with Tony over EJ, it was precisely because he saw that EJ's presence was affecting Tony's concentration at work, and they weren't even on the same team. If the writers decide to go the tiva route regardless of Rule 12, I think it will sink the NCIS ship to the level of soap opera, rather than being a crime show. I really hope NCIS doesn't fall into the "sex sells" trap, but it may already be too late.
And to Mike - If MW quits, my guess is that they will waste no time getting a new hunk in to admire super Ziva. But the many other aspects of Tony, could never be replaced.
July 4th, 2012 12:17 PM
So what will happen if michael wealthery quits ?
July 3rd, 2012 10:51 PM
Well MzLady, I like how you suggested Ziva moving because I never would have thought of that!! We all know that by the end of the series it will happen... The directors and writers admitted it in a video.. The said it was going to happen they just don't know when... Neither do we!!
July 2nd, 2012 4:16 PM
COMO ME GUSTA TODOS LOS COMETARIOS DE UDS. Y QUIERO PREGUNTAR SI FUE LA TRADUCION QUE SE HIZO ACA EN MEXICO, PERO CUANDO ZIVA Y TONY ESTAN CONVERSANDO DE LO QUE ODIAN DE LAS BODAS..DESPUES DE QUE ZIVA PREGUNTA...¿ FUGARTE?, GIBBS SE DIRIJE A ELLOS Y DICE: "A MI ME VALE", " QUE ME TIENEN?", SI EL SIEMPRE SABE TODO, PUES YO INTERPRETO QUE..PUES ESTA PONIENDO EL SEMAFORO EN VERDE...PERO ASI LO INTERPRETO YO POR LA TRADUCCION.
July 2nd, 2012 2:06 PM
I LOVE NCIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I Think Tony and Ziva should get married.............
July 2nd, 2012 12:13 PM
@Jinx - Hi! Oh, trust me, I know exactly what "proof" you're talking about. I am a fan who usually catches the fine details that others tend to miss :0)I'm not worried about whether or not T/Z will happen; I was just responding to your previous post regarding Rule #12. To Aja: I understand your point, but I think you're missing the one that's already been made by the show's canon itself: To Gibbs, being "on the same team" & "in the same agency" are one and the same. EJ & Tony DID violate Rule #12, according to him. He told EJ to her face: "My team...my rules". Trying to differentiate as to which scenario violates Rule #12 more is like splitting hairs. Again: Rule 51 eventually superscedes Rule 12 - which was already violated originally by Gibbs himself. Harmon actually commented on this issue on the S8 DVD set. When Tony takes over as leader @ the end, Ziva may indeed be moved to another dept within NCIS so they can freely have a relationship. Who knows..
July 2nd, 2012 9:04 AM
I am hoping and praying that Vance will fire either Tony or Ziva for that
July 2nd, 2012 4:41 AM
It rankled to see both Tony and Ziva step into that elevator during an evacuation; I'd have thought they were smarter than that. First thing you learn when evacuating a building is NOT to board an elevator...for various reasons.
To me, it was just another way of inserting a Tiva moment...for the Tiva fans...as if they're the only ones that count. I, for one, am against any serious relationship between the characters and not because of Rule #12. I used to be McAbby, but Abs will have to grow up! Her attitude is just...off and Gibbs just tolerates that. And McGee? Whenever they turn up with a promising love interest for our Geek on the team; they turn her into a baddie...or just write her off at some remote point (re: Max, the gamer girl from Kill Screen). I really don't see the fun in that... All there is, is the UST of Tiva and McAbby. As for Gibbs; where's Hollis Mann?