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Suits Round Table: Debut Edition!

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Welcome to the first edition of the Suits Round Table!

In this look back at "The Choice," panelists Chandel Charles, Carissa Pavlica, Carla Day and Nick McHatton tackle such topics as Harvey's aggressive actions and Mike's break-up...

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Should Harvey have taken over Porter's case and advised the client against Jessica's wishes?
Chandel: I think Harvey did the right thing for his client, but the wrong thing for Jessica. This whole making alliances issue is going to really put a strain on Harvey's relationship with Jessica. Then again, I'm still struggling to wonder why it matters who likes Harvey... if Jessica is the one whose name is on the door. She's the one who should worry about her image with each department, so she should have never expected Harvey to be a go-to guy for the whole Porter thing.

Carissa: Yes. An attorney should always work toward the end of the client's wishes over the wishes of the firm. I firmly believe that if I hire an attorney my expectation that they work for me should be first and foremost. I was disappointed that Jessica didn't feel the same way.

Carla: Harvey did what Harvey does. He didn't do it for the client. He did it to beat Paul. While he saved the project for the client, it didn't sound like it was best in the client's long term interest. For Harvey, he did the right thing. For the firm, Jessica, and the client? Probably not.

Nick: I agree with Carissa. Harvey and Mike were following the wishes of the client, and Jessica should understand that their needs rise above her own for the good of the firm; however, since her job is on the line and she's courting allies this situation was a lose-lose for her.

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Did Mike do the right thing by breaking up with Rachel?
Chandel: Unfortunately, I think he did. I just hate that their new relationship had to have blossomed and fizzled out in the same episode. That hurt a bit.

Carissa: No. Furthermore, Harvey should never have told him to do it. A little too much lying going on that will come back to bite everyone in the ass.

Carla: Yes, but not for the reasons he did. Mike is in a no-win situation. If he stayed with Rachel and told her the truth, she would have broken up with him immediately. There is no way that she would be able to overlook that he isn't really a lawyer. He has her dream job and doesn't deserve it. And, if he stayed with her and kept his secret, the betrayal would have ultimately destroyed them. They will be together at some point, but right now isn't the right time given the circumstances.

Nick: Yes, absolutely. Mike is looking for less collateral damage in his life, and while Rachel has certainly always been on his side it makes both of their jobs carry less risk. If only a select few know Mike's secret there are less chances for his secret to get out, so while it certainly hurts I see it as a form of protection for both of them.

Is Hardman actually as big a threat as Jessica and Harvey are making him out to be?
Chandel: From the repeated references to war from Jessica and Harvey, one would think he's a threat, but I'm wondering just exactly what kind of threat he's going to be. Is he dead set on taking back the firm, or just taunting Jessica and Harvey into believing that? Until he makes a more decisive move than simply coming back, I think I'm still neutral.

Carissa: With Louis on Team Hardman, yes indeed. Especially because he was the managing partner prior to leaving and he's come back with the agenda to get his job back and do it in a nefarious way - by leading everyone to believe he is a changed man. There is nothing more frightening than falling for the changed man scheme only to find out you're left dealing with the devil.

Carla: Yes. He will disrupt the firm as they have known it. A war is coming.

Nick: Oh yeah, it's always the quiet, soft-spoken ones that end up having the biggest fangs. He didn't build that firm by being a nice guy, and he's certainly not going to stay a nice guy when the managing partners are trying to forcibly oust him for a second time. It is all a recruitment act.

What was your favorite Donna moment from this episode?
Chandel: When she sat down with Mike and put him in his place about all Harvey had been doing to try and keep him at the firm. I was also intrigued by her advice to Mike about it being possible to work with someone you've had feelings for in the past.

Carissa: When she told Rachel that you can turn off your feelings, something she knows from experience.

Carla: I love how Donna is able to manipulate Louis. Their scene at her desk was the appetizer and the scene in Louis's office was the main course. Brilliant!

Nick: Donna putting Mike in his place when he was talking smack about Harvey.

What's up with Louis and what do you think is his end game?
Chandel: I think he's looking for whatever place will do him the most good and get his name on the door. I suppose he thinks if Jessica gets overthrown that Hardman will be looking for a new number two and wishes to be in plain view when that search begins.

Carissa: He wants to be respected. He doesn't realize being bought comes with a cost. I don't think things will end well for him. See my answer to number 3.

Carla: Louis, like most people, want to be appreciated and recognized for their hard work and accomplishments. You can't fault him for that. Harvey has always been Jessica's favorite and that's something Louis wants. If Hardman gives Louis the recognition he craves that will determine his loyalty. If neither Jessica or Daniel step up, then Louis will look at his options elsewhere. The dictaphone gift was Hardman's first play for Louis's loyalty - a successful play.

Nick: Louis' end game is, and always will be, himself. He wants to be the top dog, and he will do whatever it takes to get there. He has very little, if any, loyalty.

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I know! I'm totally up for a count down! I aautclly think that its 2 different scenes, the one where Bella goes to a movie with Jessica and then another scene where its her and Mike and Jacob!I love seeing EVERYTHING! I can't wait till we start getting Italy stuff!

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he does so this season. Him being on Team Hardman works wonderful - Jessica vs. Hardman and Harvey vs. Louis. They're all fights we want to see, even if we know who will come out on top in the end. I have a feeling that Hardman is going to challenge Mike and find a way to figure out that he's either been "poorly educated" or is lying about his degree. I'm interested in how they'll play that out... though I'm guessing that won't be until season 3. I love Donna. That's really all I have to say about her. Except someone last week made a comment about her lovelife - it's already apparent she has a thing for Harvey (and most likely had a perhaps one night stand with him? flighty kiss? who knows...) So I'm super excited to see that relationship develop and hopefully be the romance we get to see because of the lack of Rachel/Mike-ness.

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We all knew that some plot line had to develop besides the whole "keeping Mike's secret a secret." It would have only worked for so long if Harvey was the only real secret holder, but now Jessica does - which means she has to stay on team Harvey (and by default team Mike) to stay on as a managing partner. Although I do enjoy that the gun is now pointed at him since no one at the firm apparently likes him... well besides Mike & Donna. lol I'm not sure how Rachel didn't do some dirty work of her own on Mike when she put the pieces together that he took the LSAT's for that other chick. You'd imagine she might dig deeper to find out what else he might be lying about... like his non-existent degree. But... we do have to remember. Mike saved Rachel's job, so if TV karma works out how it should, Rachel will help save Mike's job. Louis is going to be the pawn that screws everything up. He's already been successful at doing so in many episodes, so it's only right if he does so this season. Him being on Team Hardman works wonderful - Jessica vs. Hardman and Harvey vs. Louis. They're all fights we want to see, even if we know who will come out on top in the end. I have a feeling that Hardman is going to challenge Mike and find a way to figure out that he's either been "poorly educated" or is lying about his degree. I'm interested in how they'll play that out... though I'm guessing that won't be until season 3. I love Donna. That's really all I have to say about her. Except someone last week made a comment about her lovelife - it's already apparent she has a thing for Harvey (and most likely had a perhaps one night stand with him? flighty kiss? who knows...) So I'm super excited to see that relationship develop and hopefully be the romance we get to see because of the lack of Rachel/Mike-ness.

Sarah-silva

What's up with Louis and what do you think is his end game?
From day one we call knew that Louis has been jealous of Harvey and everything he has, so Louis will do whatever it takes to beat out Harvey, however Harvey is a better lawyer and I think in the end Louis will end up with nothing!

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Is Hardman actually as big a threat as Jessica and Harvey are making him out to be?
Yes, I got a bad feeling from him in the premiere when the and Harvey went toe to toe at the party at Hardemens house and later on, that he seems like someone that you do not want to mess with! However I say the same thing about Harvey and even Jessica so it will be interesting! What was your favorite Donna moment from this episode?
There were so may good moments, I do like the way she can hold her own with Louis, but I have to say the beginning was the best when Jessica and Harvey were talking and Jessica needed to know who was on their side and Harvey thought that everyone loved him and Donna was told it like it was!

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Should Harvey have taken over Porter's case and advised the client against Jessica's wishes?
While Jessica is his boss, she knows that Harvey is damn good at what he does otherwise she would have let him go in the premiere when he said he and Mike were a packaged deal, she is feeling threatened that Hardeman will oust her so she is on edge! However she most likely knew Harvey did the right thing and at the end when he brought her tea cart back she knew he was on her side!
Did Mike do the right thing by breaking up with Rachel?
Sadly yes, there is no way Rachel would stay with him if she found out and I would not put her past her to run and tell people, I like Rachel but as she really wants to be a lawyer I think she would not hesitate to out Mike to even more people. That being said I do see them together in the end.

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Xoxodanielle

You guys were spoy on. Definitely think Mike did thr right thing by breaking up with Rachel. He should've considered that before he got with her in the first place. jenny didn't mind dating fraudman but rachel definitely would. It stings that they didn't get to be together for more than an episode but they'll definitely keep that sl for seasons to come. I can't stand Louis but I feel for him not being appreciated. It's not surprising that he would align himself with Hardman but I don't think Hardman would fully trust him... I'm starting to think Jessica may open up a new firm if she gets pushed out. Korsh did tease that the firm would look completely different at the end of the season...

Aquariuz

Donna and Louis cracked me up! Seriously, they're the most hilarious people on the show! And I loved how Jessica-Harvey and Mike-Rachel relationship are handled.

Fortyseven

1. No.
2. He shouldn't have started a relationship with her in the first place.
3. Yes
4. Donna/Louis
5. Louis has chronic under-appreciation syndrome. He'll do whatever he can to be appreciated.

Suits Season 2 Episode 2 Quotes

What you fail to understand is that our firm is under attack, and if that gets out we're done.

Harvey

You're not alone in this.

Harvey [to Jessica]
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