The Vampire Diaries: Witch Way to Go with Bonnie? Comments (Page 2)
52 Comments
Amie Rank: Regular Character
June 13th, 2012 6:21 PM
Its hilarious on just how much of this show could have been more enjoyable if Elena was closer to her book-version.
Sometimes I think to myself that TVD needs to be a comedy show as everytime Elena and Co. tried to come up with yet another epic fail plan or try to kill Klaus, I couldn't help but imagine that audience who laughs when watching live comedy on stage...Especially that scene in Murder of One when Stefan gave Elena that crossbow...
Amie Rank: Regular Character
June 13th, 2012 6:17 PM
While it is true that the actress that plays Bonnie, Kat Graham, isn't a regular Meryl Streep when it comes to acting, she is one of the most gorgeous cast on the set of TVD, apart from Ian Somerhalder and her acting has improved over the last three seasons.
To be quiet honest almost the entire cast's acting is average at best, Joseph Morgan and Daniel Gillies are the only two actors I can really call talented.
cacherr1
June 13th, 2012 4:50 PM
@Tania
yes other have lost more than Bonnie but that was not the point of what people means that Bonnie loses the most helping Elena. Yes Elena lost so many parental figures but she will no matter what always have someone care for her well being. All the bad shit that has happen to Caroline had nothing to do with helping Elena, it was just the writers trying to make everyone feel bad for Caroline or because writers think Candice's crying is most endearing thing ever. Bonnie has pretty much lost everyone who looks out for her well being as her friends should as hell don't. She has also apparently no longer person due to Elena. That is imo far worst then Elena and Caroline's losses because guess what someone will come in to replace the shit they lost and everyone "loves" them.
whateva
June 13th, 2012 4:44 PM
@Bored
while I mostly agree with you on stuff. I disagree that Kat is at bottom. Candice is just an okay actor who benefits from good writing as she pretty much sucked in season 1 (and I too have seen Candice in other stuff she is what I refer to as one note and can only play one type of character).
If the writers put effort into Bonnie as they do Caroline, Kat would be higher than Nina and Candice who are both overrated and quite frankly, Kat does the best for what she is given. imo Candice was not on par with her acting as she was in season 2 because her storylines was dumb as fuck and I mostly FF her scenes as Candice's crying got annoying.Also anyone who is not up Ian's ass knows when it comes down to has the best quality when it comes to their work, it is Paul.
By the way.....I LOVED Dark Willow......season 6 of BTVS will always be my favorite! So refreshing to see Willow's evil side come out- and in my opinion, she had every right to do what she did.
Dawn in Denver Rank: Guest Star
June 13th, 2012 12:57 PM
The biggest sin of TVD has been making Elena a boring 'nice' girl, when they could have given her the spunk of the Elena in the books. Huge, huge mistake.
And I feel guilty for saying this, because I'm sure Kat Graham is a nice person, but she can't act. I'm sorry, it's mediocre at best. I was watching 'Honey 2' the movie the other day, which she stars in, and she was pretty bad in that as well. I think she needs to stick to singing/dancing.
fyi, there were "good witch turning dark" sls before. and you've already copied SO MUCH from btVS. so stop whining
Tania
June 13th, 2012 5:57 AM
I really liked Bonnie in the first two seasons, because she never went down the Willow route of getting addicted over dependant on her magic, and because she was always very cautious, even sensible about using it. Then again, I think Damon was spot on when he nicknamed her 'Judgy', beacause it wasn't just Stefan and Damon she condemned because of their actions, but anyone who happened to slip up, even accidentally. She was extremely harsh on Caroline, when she became a vampire, but the sad fact is that Caroline did not really mean to kill her first victim. She's even harder on Elena sometimes, when she does something that Bonnie disagrees withbut the truth is that no body's perfect. Then the writers never have Elena hold anything against Bonnie, but always try to patch things up. The writers just have Bonnie sit back until somebody asks for her help. Yes she has suffered because her grandmother died and then mother was turned into a vampire, but other characters have suffered just as m
Nicole
June 12th, 2012 11:42 PM
Personally, I LOVED dark Willow. But Bonnie's character isnt nearly so well developed or beloved. I actually find her boring now which is too bad. She could have had promise.
Silver
June 12th, 2012 6:30 PM
The difficulty with a "Bonnie goes dark" story is that, for this to work well, the audience has to already love the character so that the turn impacts emotionally.
Bonnie's character has not had sufficent sympathetic development recently, so if the writers want to turn her dark (which I think is a good idea narratively) they will need to give her more sympathetic screen time along the way to make her turning a emotional struggle we can empathise with. I think some heart-to-hearts with either Stefan or Damon would help as they both know what it is to struggle with inner darkness.
ddd ani
June 12th, 2012 5:36 PM
hi i like bonnie and i watched the show because of bonnie sorry i think that matt should go home he has nothing there sorry bonnie is the bomn and she is hot because she is black that why but if bonnie dead yess alot of black people would not watch the show so fuck off bonnie is awesome
jona
June 12th, 2012 4:04 PM
Turn her evil, have us watch that in first two episodes, and then have Elena rip her heart out. :)
Its hilarious on just how much of this show could have been more enjoyable if Elena was closer to her book-version. Sadly writers decided to go bella-swan route and the result was a huge misogynistic mess.
Their reasoning for NOT using that elena? "Oh we did not want a lead who is selfish and has real flaws so we made mary sue instead".
then turns his attention to our "heroine" Elena, intent to kill her for killing his daughter! Oooh lol! :)
sorry, that would require writers having actual balls in adding some gray into the characters. So far they have shown us that they will NEVER advance any plotlines and will tiptoe at the same place for years.
While it is true that the actress that plays Bonnie, Kat Graham, isn't a regular Meryl Streep when it comes to acting, she is one of the most gorgeous cast on the set of TVD, apart from Ian Somerhalder and her acting has improved over the last three seasons.
sorry, but even in the mediocrity of acting that is TVD(the top being C.Accola) Kat Graham comes quite low.
Bored
June 12th, 2012 2:24 PM
@elena isn't that special - While it is true that the actress that plays Bonnie, Kat Graham, isn't a regular Meryl Streep when it comes to acting, she is one of the most gorgeous cast on the set of TVD, apart from Ian Somerhalder and her acting has improved over the last three seasons.
On another note, the writers should adapt a little bit of the significance of the Bonnie character in the book and integrate it to the movie. The show is getting very boring because of Elena's constant meddlesome ways and fickle mindedness. Unfortunately, the writers can't do much because she seems to be always confused, even in the book. Her character is sometimes self-centered and then selfless, then she's onto Stefan later she's thinking about Damon. Same old, same old.
Asuka
June 12th, 2012 10:55 AM
After Elena accidently kills Bonnie, Bonnies father could then appear as one real badass vampire hunter! He gets rid off all the originals in like two episodes (something the salvatores couldnt do in a full season!), then turns his attention to our "heroine" Elena, intent to kill her for killing his daughter! Oooh lol! :)
Asuka
June 12th, 2012 10:32 AM
Bonnies a plot device. She should either leave town and never come back or get killed off. Kill her by having Elena be her first victim, she accidently kills Bonnie and has to cope with it.
Nah the writers wouldn't do something like that to their mary-sue because it requires character development. lol
mhaffy
June 12th, 2012 10:01 AM
hope the writer should stop killing her love once!make her some actions...
San
June 12th, 2012 9:52 AM
Best way for Bonnie is to die. She's not around that much and when she is, she's just a worthless Plot Device! C'mon you can't even give her a House for 2 seasons and her life revolves around this show's precious Mary Sue Cardboard.
This is SO true! Couldn't agree more.
And if the writers don't dare to kill her off, they should at least let her leave town (forever). With Jeremy. That would be perfect!
Yeah; I know. But a girl can be dreaming, right?! ;-)
Elena isn't that special
June 12th, 2012 8:02 AM
To be honest I never liked bonnie, I can't stand the actress, and her 'story' isn't a story at all. underdeveloped and I have to agree she's a plot filler...a bad one at that! She's just there to make things happen, to fill in the crappy plot.
I think they should turn her into a doppelganger, witch, vampire-werewolf, hybrid vampire hunter, ripper with a split personality who can tap into the spirit world and give a sub plot of a spirit world disaster, bring some of her ancestors back into town, as indestructible evil forces who are trying to take over the world, hook her up with oh so loyal stefan OR.....Simply kill the waste of space off and start again with a hotter, better actress (a black one, otherwise we won't have any black people on the show and that's not nice).
Best way for Bonnie is to die. She's not around that much and when she is, she's just a worthless Plot Device! C'mon you can't even give her a House for 2 seasons and her life revolves around this show's precious Mary Sue Cardboard.
cc
June 12th, 2012 3:41 AM
The writers should DEFINITELY do something rash and different with Bonnie. She was getting to be such a plot-hole filler.
They should change Bonnie's life forever. Go down the road you dare to go on, writers.
Ilk_vomit Rank: Regular Character
June 12th, 2012 2:44 AM
I want bonnie to be gone !! She was only ever interesting when her grams was alive.
christiqn
June 11th, 2012 9:29 PM
and i can give you another reson for bonny to stay
well shi is cool no matter which said she is
christiqn
June 11th, 2012 9:25 PM
i think bonny shuld stay inTVD season 4
ans we need to see what will hapen when shi go to the dark side
Damon: She's strong and crafty and you'll die. Elena: At least I'll die trying.
Rank: Regular Character
June 13th, 2012 6:21 PM
Its hilarious on just how much of this show could have been more enjoyable if Elena was closer to her book-version.
Sometimes I think to myself that TVD needs to be a comedy show as everytime Elena and Co. tried to come up with yet another epic fail plan or try to kill Klaus, I couldn't help but imagine that audience who laughs when watching live comedy on stage...Especially that scene in Murder of One when Stefan gave Elena that crossbow...
Rank: Regular Character
June 13th, 2012 6:17 PM
While it is true that the actress that plays Bonnie, Kat Graham, isn't a regular Meryl Streep when it comes to acting, she is one of the most gorgeous cast on the set of TVD, apart from Ian Somerhalder and her acting has improved over the last three seasons.
To be quiet honest almost the entire cast's acting is average at best, Joseph Morgan and Daniel Gillies are the only two actors I can really call talented.
June 13th, 2012 4:50 PM
@Tania
yes other have lost more than Bonnie but that was not the point of what people means that Bonnie loses the most helping Elena. Yes Elena lost so many parental figures but she will no matter what always have someone care for her well being. All the bad shit that has happen to Caroline had nothing to do with helping Elena, it was just the writers trying to make everyone feel bad for Caroline or because writers think Candice's crying is most endearing thing ever. Bonnie has pretty much lost everyone who looks out for her well being as her friends should as hell don't. She has also apparently no longer person due to Elena. That is imo far worst then Elena and Caroline's losses because guess what someone will come in to replace the shit they lost and everyone "loves" them.
June 13th, 2012 4:44 PM
@Bored
while I mostly agree with you on stuff. I disagree that Kat is at bottom. Candice is just an okay actor who benefits from good writing as she pretty much sucked in season 1 (and I too have seen Candice in other stuff she is what I refer to as one note and can only play one type of character).
If the writers put effort into Bonnie as they do Caroline, Kat would be higher than Nina and Candice who are both overrated and quite frankly, Kat does the best for what she is given. imo Candice was not on par with her acting as she was in season 2 because her storylines was dumb as fuck and I mostly FF her scenes as Candice's crying got annoying.Also anyone who is not up Ian's ass knows when it comes down to has the best quality when it comes to their work, it is Paul.
Rank: Guest Star
June 13th, 2012 2:55 PM
By the way.....I LOVED Dark Willow......season 6 of BTVS will always be my favorite! So refreshing to see Willow's evil side come out- and in my opinion, she had every right to do what she did.
Rank: Guest Star
June 13th, 2012 12:57 PM
The biggest sin of TVD has been making Elena a boring 'nice' girl, when they could have given her the spunk of the Elena in the books. Huge, huge mistake.
And I feel guilty for saying this, because I'm sure Kat Graham is a nice person, but she can't act. I'm sorry, it's mediocre at best. I was watching 'Honey 2' the movie the other day, which she stars in, and she was pretty bad in that as well. I think she needs to stick to singing/dancing.
June 13th, 2012 12:06 PM
fyi, there were "good witch turning dark" sls before. and you've already copied SO MUCH from btVS. so stop whining
June 13th, 2012 5:57 AM
I really liked Bonnie in the first two seasons, because she never went down the Willow route of getting addicted over dependant on her magic, and because she was always very cautious, even sensible about using it. Then again, I think Damon was spot on when he nicknamed her 'Judgy', beacause it wasn't just Stefan and Damon she condemned because of their actions, but anyone who happened to slip up, even accidentally. She was extremely harsh on Caroline, when she became a vampire, but the sad fact is that Caroline did not really mean to kill her first victim. She's even harder on Elena sometimes, when she does something that Bonnie disagrees withbut the truth is that no body's perfect. Then the writers never have Elena hold anything against Bonnie, but always try to patch things up. The writers just have Bonnie sit back until somebody asks for her help. Yes she has suffered because her grandmother died and then mother was turned into a vampire, but other characters have suffered just as m
June 12th, 2012 11:42 PM
Personally, I LOVED dark Willow. But Bonnie's character isnt nearly so well developed or beloved. I actually find her boring now which is too bad. She could have had promise.
June 12th, 2012 6:30 PM
The difficulty with a "Bonnie goes dark" story is that, for this to work well, the audience has to already love the character so that the turn impacts emotionally.
Bonnie's character has not had sufficent sympathetic development recently, so if the writers want to turn her dark (which I think is a good idea narratively) they will need to give her more sympathetic screen time along the way to make her turning a emotional struggle we can empathise with. I think some heart-to-hearts with either Stefan or Damon would help as they both know what it is to struggle with inner darkness.
June 12th, 2012 5:36 PM
hi i like bonnie and i watched the show because of bonnie sorry i think that matt should go home he has nothing there sorry bonnie is the bomn and she is hot because she is black that why but if bonnie dead yess alot of black people would not watch the show so fuck off bonnie is awesome
June 12th, 2012 4:04 PM
Turn her evil, have us watch that in first two episodes, and then have Elena rip her heart out. :)
June 12th, 2012 3:09 PM
Its hilarious on just how much of this show could have been more enjoyable if Elena was closer to her book-version. Sadly writers decided to go bella-swan route and the result was a huge misogynistic mess.
Their reasoning for NOT using that elena? "Oh we did not want a lead who is selfish and has real flaws so we made mary sue instead".
June 12th, 2012 3:08 PM
then turns his attention to our "heroine" Elena, intent to kill her for killing his daughter! Oooh lol! :)
sorry, that would require writers having actual balls in adding some gray into the characters. So far they have shown us that they will NEVER advance any plotlines and will tiptoe at the same place for years.
While it is true that the actress that plays Bonnie, Kat Graham, isn't a regular Meryl Streep when it comes to acting, she is one of the most gorgeous cast on the set of TVD, apart from Ian Somerhalder and her acting has improved over the last three seasons.
sorry, but even in the mediocrity of acting that is TVD(the top being C.Accola) Kat Graham comes quite low.
June 12th, 2012 2:24 PM
@elena isn't that special - While it is true that the actress that plays Bonnie, Kat Graham, isn't a regular Meryl Streep when it comes to acting, she is one of the most gorgeous cast on the set of TVD, apart from Ian Somerhalder and her acting has improved over the last three seasons.
On another note, the writers should adapt a little bit of the significance of the Bonnie character in the book and integrate it to the movie. The show is getting very boring because of Elena's constant meddlesome ways and fickle mindedness. Unfortunately, the writers can't do much because she seems to be always confused, even in the book. Her character is sometimes self-centered and then selfless, then she's onto Stefan later she's thinking about Damon. Same old, same old.
June 12th, 2012 10:55 AM
After Elena accidently kills Bonnie, Bonnies father could then appear as one real badass vampire hunter! He gets rid off all the originals in like two episodes (something the salvatores couldnt do in a full season!), then turns his attention to our "heroine" Elena, intent to kill her for killing his daughter! Oooh lol! :)
June 12th, 2012 10:32 AM
Bonnies a plot device. She should either leave town and never come back or get killed off. Kill her by having Elena be her first victim, she accidently kills Bonnie and has to cope with it.
Nah the writers wouldn't do something like that to their mary-sue because it requires character development. lol
June 12th, 2012 10:01 AM
hope the writer should stop killing her love once!make her some actions...
June 12th, 2012 9:52 AM
Best way for Bonnie is to die. She's not around that much and when she is, she's just a worthless Plot Device! C'mon you can't even give her a House for 2 seasons and her life revolves around this show's precious Mary Sue Cardboard.
This is SO true! Couldn't agree more.
And if the writers don't dare to kill her off, they should at least let her leave town (forever). With Jeremy. That would be perfect!
Yeah; I know. But a girl can be dreaming, right?! ;-)
June 12th, 2012 8:02 AM
To be honest I never liked bonnie, I can't stand the actress, and her 'story' isn't a story at all. underdeveloped and I have to agree she's a plot filler...a bad one at that! She's just there to make things happen, to fill in the crappy plot.
I think they should turn her into a doppelganger, witch, vampire-werewolf, hybrid vampire hunter, ripper with a split personality who can tap into the spirit world and give a sub plot of a spirit world disaster, bring some of her ancestors back into town, as indestructible evil forces who are trying to take over the world, hook her up with oh so loyal stefan OR.....Simply kill the waste of space off and start again with a hotter, better actress (a black one, otherwise we won't have any black people on the show and that's not nice).
Rank: Leading Character
June 12th, 2012 5:42 AM
Best way for Bonnie is to die. She's not around that much and when she is, she's just a worthless Plot Device! C'mon you can't even give her a House for 2 seasons and her life revolves around this show's precious Mary Sue Cardboard.
June 12th, 2012 3:41 AM
The writers should DEFINITELY do something rash and different with Bonnie. She was getting to be such a plot-hole filler.
They should change Bonnie's life forever. Go down the road you dare to go on, writers.
Rank: Regular Character
June 12th, 2012 2:44 AM
I want bonnie to be gone !! She was only ever interesting when her grams was alive.
June 11th, 2012 9:29 PM
and i can give you another reson for bonny to stay
well shi is cool no matter which said she is
June 11th, 2012 9:25 PM
i think bonny shuld stay inTVD season 4
ans we need to see what will hapen when shi go to the dark side