Teen Wolf Review: Unkindness of Raving Comments (Page 2)
42 Comments
Sean
July 18th, 2012 7:51 PM
What I like about this show is that the actions of the characters have realistic consequences. Although its sad, I'm glad that stiles's dad was fired b/c of his sons's actions. So many shows, (glee comes to mind) forget about consequences. Secondly, I gotta say that I think, Tyler Posey/Scott is the weakest of the main cast. He just sounds to whiny for me. The supporting characters (chris argent, the vet, gerard, kate from last season) anchor the main cast. Lydia stole the show season 1 and now its Jackson's turn. Stiles is my favourite character throughout. Issac and Erica are also turning into good characters as well. At this point I've given up on guessing the kanima master just like the whole Peter Hale thing. I;ll let the writers sort that out. However, I really liked this episode b/c it solved some of the mysteries of the vet. As a bit of a classic mythology nerd, I recognized the pendant the vet gave was from the Wiccan god, Cernunnos, aka Lord of the Animals. Therefore the vet
Crissy
July 18th, 2012 10:27 AM
BTW, I wanted to run something by you guys. I watched ep 8 again & noticed that Gerard (Gramps) looked like he could've just been checking out the mountain ash line instead of being stopped by it. It wasn't like he tried to step over the line & couldn't - he just saw it and bent over to check it out. Do you think the writers are just trying to throw us off?
Crissy
July 18th, 2012 10:22 AM
@Painindiaz: LOL - I did the same thing & I saw it, too! Derek def bit Victoria. W/how she was attacking him while Scott was dying, it was prob the quickest way to get rid of her & help Scott. Serves her right!
@Nikki: Good catch - Derek inhaling the wolfsbane would def make him wolf out. Same thing happened to Scott. I think Derek prob has better control of his Alpha side than Peter did, so he made it quick.
Loved how Derek took care of Scott. They're almost like brothers w/how they fight but still have each other's backs. The look on Derek's face when he thanked the vet made me wanna hug him!
Painindiaz
July 18th, 2012 9:51 AM
Derek DID bite her! Right before he fell to the grown towards Scott. He was facing Mrs. Argent wolfed out... Growled and bit her. Then she ran out. Watched the episode about 10 times.. To see if I missed anything. And the girl that was killed was pictured in the year book... She may have changed her name or has a twin... Because she was in the yearbook Stiles had. The camera zoomed in on her picture and then switched to her at the club selling tickets.
Nikki
July 18th, 2012 8:24 AM
First of all, awesome review for an amazingly awesome show :)
I love the connection that Derek and Scott have, Derek has always be there for Scott in some weird disfunctional way (sometimes)
Just wanted to reply to RIE 1st about the bite; Derek did turn, because when he walked in, he inhaled the Wolfsbane...ok that is all.
No one deserves to feel what it is like to be in Scott's shoes that Mrs Argent herself; he didn't ask to be a wolf, he hasn't harmed anyone and yet she keeps threatening the poor boy. Now she is going to find out exactly what that feels like and as fate would have it, she's married to a werewolf hunter.
I am so glad that Scott is finally part of the pack though, he needed that. Omega my behind! I am not so sure what is up with Allison, girl needs to pull herself together. After all the Argent women are the leaders, and she's acting like a wimp all the time. Grandad Argent, major creepy...I don't even think his own son should trust him. He's probably the
Mort
July 17th, 2012 10:26 PM
Slightly off topic, but does anyone else think the pic in the Teen Wolf Quotes---------------------------------------------------------------->
Makes Scott/Tyler Posey look like he may be auditioning for Pirates of the Caribbean.
Rie
July 17th, 2012 9:09 PM
So the girl who was killed by Jackson wasn't on the "list" that Stile's Dad had, and wasn't the list a list of students in the chem teachers class? So if she wasn't a student, but she was a (perhaps) murder of the Kanima Master, maybe it has nothing to do with the chem teacher? I mean he might play a role, or he may be one of the masters, but not the only. There has to be more linking them together than just being in the chem teachers class, since that one girl wasn't in his class.
Also,
1) I def think Mama Argent did something to get the bite because Derek didn't turn into a wolf when he was fighting her so he couldn't have bitten her
2) I agree that Gerard is def something!! But not sure what...
3) I knew the guidance counselor was important somehow, I just wonder what she is, and how she knows the vet! And what is the vet??? He is def more knowledgeable & important than we were previously lead to believe...
4) When Jackson said "ME, they killed ME!" did that mean th
Luna
July 17th, 2012 6:34 PM
Correction: I think anyone who has watched this show and really paid attention has seen the bumper stickers on Mr. Harris's car and NOT considered him a candidate for master.
Luna
July 17th, 2012 6:26 PM
BTW, I think anyone who has watched this show and really paid attention has seen the bumper stickers on Mr. Harris's car and considered him a candidate for master. I wonder if those same people noticed the black gloved hands in Mr. Harris's rearview mirrow as he was leaving the school from detention and how his expression turned to fear when he saw whoever it was in his backseat wearing those gloves. Harris is in on it, no doubt, but the person wearing the gloves is more likely the master - or the living person connected with the master, imo.
Luna
July 17th, 2012 6:17 PM
Okay, so let's say run with the "Isaac's brother is the master" theory for a sec and see where it goes. How did Cameron (Isaac's brother) get into the this scenario and how would he know Jackson and know about the Kanima and wwolves from beyond the grave? Isaac works in the graveyard, so while I guess he could've tried some voodoo or something on Cameron's grave to bring him back, I doubt it. On the other hand, Jackson Kanima did say that master was in the room with him, Stiles, Eria and Isaac last night. Could Cameron somehow be using Isaac to master the kanima without Isaac even knowing it? I think the master is somebody w/a lot more experience and knowledge of the supernatural.
-yes i considered that issacs brother had something to do with it, or they killed his father in place of his brother. im not sure
-i agree with everyone that gerrard is something supernatural and those pills keep him from turning or keep him alive possibly.
-i really dont want alison to freak out and become a crazy argent but its going to happen now because of her mother who i think got bit on purpose because i don't remember derek biting her! and you know shes going to lie about killing scott!
Mort
July 17th, 2012 4:42 PM
Momma Argent has already proven the she will harm herself to further her own goals. She may have deliberately gotten bit so she could force her husband to act against Scott. Possibly Gerard bit her.
Mary
July 17th, 2012 4:06 PM
Okay, I feel like i'm either stupid and i missed something, or you all missed when Stiles' dad said that Isaac had a brother who died and would be 24... Am i the only one who thinks that his brother must be the master? I know they said he died at war but still... it kinda fits... he was in the same class as all those kids and he's dead. It's perfect. Is there something I'm missing, or did everyone just forget that part...?
Simone
July 17th, 2012 3:49 PM
Grandpa Argent definitely has his own supernatural secret since he could not cross the line of ash. I agree with the others who said that those pills that he is always taking must be stopping him from transforming.
lemmearn3
July 17th, 2012 2:46 PM
ok well clearly the teacher is the master people come on..the his car was the one with the bumber sticker and has been shown in the last two episodes..also i belive the kids in his class that are all 24 must of pulled a prank or something on him somethin that "murdered" him not this is not the type of murder that he is dead but something they did that hurt him emotionally or mentally now he is getting his revenege by killing the students.
joe
July 17th, 2012 12:36 PM
the scene with stiles interrogating Jackson/kamina was such a well done scene. such a beautiful piece of work, with the lighting, staging, acting and all.
AMAZING!
it was also great to see the wolf pack coming together: scott/isaac and derek/scott. clearly setting the stage for the next great battle. can't wait to see how lydia and peter are involved!
joe
July 17th, 2012 12:29 PM
could it be that the chemistry teacher was Jackson's father who was supposedly killed in an accident? maybe the 24 yearolds somehow caused the accident. but that doesn't explain how the chem-teacher would have been brought back to life.
on the other hand, we know that the kanima master was killed. my first thought was that it must be peter, but he was technically killed by Derek. but maybe someone else from the Vale family, who was killed in the fire could be the kanima master, and perhaps the 24 year olds were involved in the fire. but is it even possible for an unknown character to be it?
or maybe grandpa argent was killed for some reason and is popping all those pills to "be alive."
Luna
July 17th, 2012 12:28 PM
One more thing that occurred to me last night: wouldn't the master have to know about Jackson's bite in enough time to bypass his wolf transformation and turn him into a kanima first? Even if that wasn't the case, the master would have to know about Jackson being the kanima long before the others in order to become his master. Throw in the fact that he is supposedly a dead 24 year old who was killed by all of the victims and I feel my head start to rotate on its own. WTH, people? Could there be 2 possible masters?
Luna
July 17th, 2012 12:17 PM
Freaking WOWSA! Episode 8 blew me away. Soo many questions that my head hurts just thinking about them!
1. If the victims were all 24 & in the same class together & the master said they killed him, then I don't think we've been introduced to him yet b/c the only other person around that age on the show is Derek & he's still alive.
2. Gerard coldn't cross the line of mountain ash. WTH is he, then? Whatever it is, I think the pills must help him resist transformation.
3. The guidance counselor must have lied to Allison about the Latin translation for "master" on purpose to throw her off track. She also didn't like the vet's soft spot for the wwolves. Is she a hunter?
4. What IS the vet? He must be some sort of a witch who is caught in the middle. He cares for Scott, so I hope that works in the wwolves' favor.
5. Take THAT, Mrs. Argent! I heard a big growl when Derek bit her, so I think he was able to make the bite count. Will she live long enough to transform?
bite_me_derek
July 17th, 2012 11:37 AM
to be dead, though. Maybe the issues Jackson has to sort out in order to finally turn into a werewolf make him susceptible to the injustices inflicted on supernatural entities in general/former kanimas in particular. And maybe this temporary skill somehow reunites him with Lydia who seems to be a major trump card in reviving the deceased alpha or at least do his bidding - whatever that may entail.
bite_me_derek
July 17th, 2012 11:32 AM
I'm blown away by this show once again. The plot literally thickens, which is a rare skill for screen writers to display nowadays, especially if you take into consideration that we're talking about an MTV show (but in all sincerity: I'm way past my initial prejudices against that network ... even if TW turns out to be their only exhilarating, well thought-out series, they sure as hell accomplished something there).
Let me get my personal theory out there (mind you, I didn't mull it over thoroughly, it just came to me spontaneously): the presence of the chemistry teacher on that rave may have been inserted by the writers as some kinda ruse. I'm under the impression that this wasn't actually him but the kanima master choosing his appearance as an elaborate disguise, since kanimas are shapeshifters and I'm assuming the master can turn into just about anything he sets his mind on. So he deliberately slipped into this 'skin' to fool his enemies. None of this explains why he's supposed t
Here is my theory on Gerard (just a theory). I think he got bit by a werewolf at some point in the past. And he's taking those pills so he won't turn. If not then he's terminally ill.
The thing is, he could NOT pass the mountain ash line. Whatever he is, he is ALREADY something supernatural.
R
July 17th, 2012 10:51 AM
Very good episode. I'm glad Mrs. Argent got bit...she is totally psycho! I still don't understand why those two aren't allowed to date? Hasn't Scott already shown that he can control himself with Allison when he turns?
What do you want to bet that Mrs. Argent says that Scott bit her. It's so something that she would do.....to further try and break them apart.
Here is my theory on Gerard (just a theory). I think he got bit by a werewolf at some point in the past. And he's taking those pills so he won't turn. If not then he's terminally ill.
I think there is definitely more than one master.
Allison confuses me. She's supposed to turn into this bad ass hunter this season but everytime she's confronted by her family about something she looks like she's going to cry. She looks that way a lot.
Poor Scott.....the guy just wants to do the right thing and everyone beats up on him.
Jarrod Mitchell Rank: Leading Character
July 17th, 2012 10:23 AM
I'm with @Vampirelover08. Where was Lydia? I missed her.
Was this episode the most batshit insane episode of this show ever or what? Easily 5/5
- Kanima Master List expanded by gazillion with this episode. Seriously, WHO WAS NOT A THE PARTY? EVERYONE WAS.
- Gerard Argent is CLEARLY not human. He could not cross the line.
- Guidance Councelor is far more than she lets on.
- Next episode seems to be batshit crazy.
- AND THERE’S SOMETHING EVEN BIGGER AND WORSE COMING?
Also now I am convinced that Allison/Scott is the next Kate/Derek in the making
Derek: He's turning into that? That has wings.
July 18th, 2012 7:51 PM
What I like about this show is that the actions of the characters have realistic consequences. Although its sad, I'm glad that stiles's dad was fired b/c of his sons's actions. So many shows, (glee comes to mind) forget about consequences. Secondly, I gotta say that I think, Tyler Posey/Scott is the weakest of the main cast. He just sounds to whiny for me. The supporting characters (chris argent, the vet, gerard, kate from last season) anchor the main cast. Lydia stole the show season 1 and now its Jackson's turn. Stiles is my favourite character throughout. Issac and Erica are also turning into good characters as well. At this point I've given up on guessing the kanima master just like the whole Peter Hale thing. I;ll let the writers sort that out. However, I really liked this episode b/c it solved some of the mysteries of the vet. As a bit of a classic mythology nerd, I recognized the pendant the vet gave was from the Wiccan god, Cernunnos, aka Lord of the Animals. Therefore the vet
July 18th, 2012 10:27 AM
BTW, I wanted to run something by you guys. I watched ep 8 again & noticed that Gerard (Gramps) looked like he could've just been checking out the mountain ash line instead of being stopped by it. It wasn't like he tried to step over the line & couldn't - he just saw it and bent over to check it out. Do you think the writers are just trying to throw us off?
July 18th, 2012 10:22 AM
@Painindiaz: LOL - I did the same thing & I saw it, too! Derek def bit Victoria. W/how she was attacking him while Scott was dying, it was prob the quickest way to get rid of her & help Scott. Serves her right!
@Nikki: Good catch - Derek inhaling the wolfsbane would def make him wolf out. Same thing happened to Scott. I think Derek prob has better control of his Alpha side than Peter did, so he made it quick.
Loved how Derek took care of Scott. They're almost like brothers w/how they fight but still have each other's backs. The look on Derek's face when he thanked the vet made me wanna hug him!
July 18th, 2012 9:51 AM
Derek DID bite her! Right before he fell to the grown towards Scott. He was facing Mrs. Argent wolfed out... Growled and bit her. Then she ran out. Watched the episode about 10 times.. To see if I missed anything. And the girl that was killed was pictured in the year book... She may have changed her name or has a twin... Because she was in the yearbook Stiles had. The camera zoomed in on her picture and then switched to her at the club selling tickets.
July 18th, 2012 8:24 AM
First of all, awesome review for an amazingly awesome show :)
I love the connection that Derek and Scott have, Derek has always be there for Scott in some weird disfunctional way (sometimes)
Just wanted to reply to RIE 1st about the bite; Derek did turn, because when he walked in, he inhaled the Wolfsbane...ok that is all.
No one deserves to feel what it is like to be in Scott's shoes that Mrs Argent herself; he didn't ask to be a wolf, he hasn't harmed anyone and yet she keeps threatening the poor boy. Now she is going to find out exactly what that feels like and as fate would have it, she's married to a werewolf hunter.
I am so glad that Scott is finally part of the pack though, he needed that. Omega my behind! I am not so sure what is up with Allison, girl needs to pull herself together. After all the Argent women are the leaders, and she's acting like a wimp all the time. Grandad Argent, major creepy...I don't even think his own son should trust him. He's probably the
July 17th, 2012 10:26 PM
Slightly off topic, but does anyone else think the pic in the Teen Wolf Quotes---------------------------------------------------------------->
Makes Scott/Tyler Posey look like he may be auditioning for Pirates of the Caribbean.
July 17th, 2012 9:09 PM
So the girl who was killed by Jackson wasn't on the "list" that Stile's Dad had, and wasn't the list a list of students in the chem teachers class? So if she wasn't a student, but she was a (perhaps) murder of the Kanima Master, maybe it has nothing to do with the chem teacher? I mean he might play a role, or he may be one of the masters, but not the only. There has to be more linking them together than just being in the chem teachers class, since that one girl wasn't in his class.
Also,
1) I def think Mama Argent did something to get the bite because Derek didn't turn into a wolf when he was fighting her so he couldn't have bitten her
2) I agree that Gerard is def something!! But not sure what...
3) I knew the guidance counselor was important somehow, I just wonder what she is, and how she knows the vet! And what is the vet??? He is def more knowledgeable & important than we were previously lead to believe...
4) When Jackson said "ME, they killed ME!" did that mean th
July 17th, 2012 6:34 PM
Correction: I think anyone who has watched this show and really paid attention has seen the bumper stickers on Mr. Harris's car and NOT considered him a candidate for master.
July 17th, 2012 6:26 PM
BTW, I think anyone who has watched this show and really paid attention has seen the bumper stickers on Mr. Harris's car and considered him a candidate for master. I wonder if those same people noticed the black gloved hands in Mr. Harris's rearview mirrow as he was leaving the school from detention and how his expression turned to fear when he saw whoever it was in his backseat wearing those gloves. Harris is in on it, no doubt, but the person wearing the gloves is more likely the master - or the living person connected with the master, imo.
July 17th, 2012 6:17 PM
Okay, so let's say run with the "Isaac's brother is the master" theory for a sec and see where it goes. How did Cameron (Isaac's brother) get into the this scenario and how would he know Jackson and know about the Kanima and wwolves from beyond the grave? Isaac works in the graveyard, so while I guess he could've tried some voodoo or something on Cameron's grave to bring him back, I doubt it. On the other hand, Jackson Kanima did say that master was in the room with him, Stiles, Eria and Isaac last night. Could Cameron somehow be using Isaac to master the kanima without Isaac even knowing it? I think the master is somebody w/a lot more experience and knowledge of the supernatural.
Rank: Extra
July 17th, 2012 5:26 PM
-yes i considered that issacs brother had something to do with it, or they killed his father in place of his brother. im not sure
-i agree with everyone that gerrard is something supernatural and those pills keep him from turning or keep him alive possibly.
-i really dont want alison to freak out and become a crazy argent but its going to happen now because of her mother who i think got bit on purpose because i don't remember derek biting her! and you know shes going to lie about killing scott!
July 17th, 2012 4:42 PM
Momma Argent has already proven the she will harm herself to further her own goals. She may have deliberately gotten bit so she could force her husband to act against Scott. Possibly Gerard bit her.
July 17th, 2012 4:06 PM
Okay, I feel like i'm either stupid and i missed something, or you all missed when Stiles' dad said that Isaac had a brother who died and would be 24... Am i the only one who thinks that his brother must be the master? I know they said he died at war but still... it kinda fits... he was in the same class as all those kids and he's dead. It's perfect. Is there something I'm missing, or did everyone just forget that part...?
July 17th, 2012 3:49 PM
Grandpa Argent definitely has his own supernatural secret since he could not cross the line of ash. I agree with the others who said that those pills that he is always taking must be stopping him from transforming.
July 17th, 2012 2:46 PM
ok well clearly the teacher is the master people come on..the his car was the one with the bumber sticker and has been shown in the last two episodes..also i belive the kids in his class that are all 24 must of pulled a prank or something on him somethin that "murdered" him not this is not the type of murder that he is dead but something they did that hurt him emotionally or mentally now he is getting his revenege by killing the students.
July 17th, 2012 12:36 PM
the scene with stiles interrogating Jackson/kamina was such a well done scene. such a beautiful piece of work, with the lighting, staging, acting and all.
AMAZING!
it was also great to see the wolf pack coming together: scott/isaac and derek/scott. clearly setting the stage for the next great battle. can't wait to see how lydia and peter are involved!
July 17th, 2012 12:29 PM
could it be that the chemistry teacher was Jackson's father who was supposedly killed in an accident? maybe the 24 yearolds somehow caused the accident. but that doesn't explain how the chem-teacher would have been brought back to life.
on the other hand, we know that the kanima master was killed. my first thought was that it must be peter, but he was technically killed by Derek. but maybe someone else from the Vale family, who was killed in the fire could be the kanima master, and perhaps the 24 year olds were involved in the fire. but is it even possible for an unknown character to be it?
or maybe grandpa argent was killed for some reason and is popping all those pills to "be alive."
July 17th, 2012 12:28 PM
One more thing that occurred to me last night: wouldn't the master have to know about Jackson's bite in enough time to bypass his wolf transformation and turn him into a kanima first? Even if that wasn't the case, the master would have to know about Jackson being the kanima long before the others in order to become his master. Throw in the fact that he is supposedly a dead 24 year old who was killed by all of the victims and I feel my head start to rotate on its own. WTH, people? Could there be 2 possible masters?
July 17th, 2012 12:17 PM
Freaking WOWSA! Episode 8 blew me away. Soo many questions that my head hurts just thinking about them!
1. If the victims were all 24 & in the same class together & the master said they killed him, then I don't think we've been introduced to him yet b/c the only other person around that age on the show is Derek & he's still alive.
2. Gerard coldn't cross the line of mountain ash. WTH is he, then? Whatever it is, I think the pills must help him resist transformation.
3. The guidance counselor must have lied to Allison about the Latin translation for "master" on purpose to throw her off track. She also didn't like the vet's soft spot for the wwolves. Is she a hunter?
4. What IS the vet? He must be some sort of a witch who is caught in the middle. He cares for Scott, so I hope that works in the wwolves' favor.
5. Take THAT, Mrs. Argent! I heard a big growl when Derek bit her, so I think he was able to make the bite count. Will she live long enough to transform?
July 17th, 2012 11:37 AM
to be dead, though. Maybe the issues Jackson has to sort out in order to finally turn into a werewolf make him susceptible to the injustices inflicted on supernatural entities in general/former kanimas in particular. And maybe this temporary skill somehow reunites him with Lydia who seems to be a major trump card in reviving the deceased alpha or at least do his bidding - whatever that may entail.
July 17th, 2012 11:32 AM
I'm blown away by this show once again. The plot literally thickens, which is a rare skill for screen writers to display nowadays, especially if you take into consideration that we're talking about an MTV show (but in all sincerity: I'm way past my initial prejudices against that network ... even if TW turns out to be their only exhilarating, well thought-out series, they sure as hell accomplished something there).
Let me get my personal theory out there (mind you, I didn't mull it over thoroughly, it just came to me spontaneously): the presence of the chemistry teacher on that rave may have been inserted by the writers as some kinda ruse. I'm under the impression that this wasn't actually him but the kanima master choosing his appearance as an elaborate disguise, since kanimas are shapeshifters and I'm assuming the master can turn into just about anything he sets his mind on. So he deliberately slipped into this 'skin' to fool his enemies. None of this explains why he's supposed t
July 17th, 2012 11:04 AM
Here is my theory on Gerard (just a theory). I think he got bit by a werewolf at some point in the past. And he's taking those pills so he won't turn. If not then he's terminally ill.
The thing is, he could NOT pass the mountain ash line. Whatever he is, he is ALREADY something supernatural.
July 17th, 2012 10:51 AM
Very good episode. I'm glad Mrs. Argent got bit...she is totally psycho! I still don't understand why those two aren't allowed to date? Hasn't Scott already shown that he can control himself with Allison when he turns?
What do you want to bet that Mrs. Argent says that Scott bit her. It's so something that she would do.....to further try and break them apart.
Here is my theory on Gerard (just a theory). I think he got bit by a werewolf at some point in the past. And he's taking those pills so he won't turn. If not then he's terminally ill.
I think there is definitely more than one master.
Allison confuses me. She's supposed to turn into this bad ass hunter this season but everytime she's confronted by her family about something she looks like she's going to cry. She looks that way a lot.
Poor Scott.....the guy just wants to do the right thing and everyone beats up on him.
Rank: Leading Character
July 17th, 2012 10:23 AM
I'm with @Vampirelover08. Where was Lydia? I missed her.
July 17th, 2012 10:19 AM
Was this episode the most batshit insane episode of this show ever or what? Easily 5/5
- Kanima Master List expanded by gazillion with this episode. Seriously, WHO WAS NOT A THE PARTY? EVERYONE WAS.
- Gerard Argent is CLEARLY not human. He could not cross the line.
- Guidance Councelor is far more than she lets on.
- Next episode seems to be batshit crazy.
- AND THERE’S SOMETHING EVEN BIGGER AND WORSE COMING?
Also now I am convinced that Allison/Scott is the next Kate/Derek in the making