I too am bit confused by Eric's motivations, he seem not pro-mainstreaming and even frowned upon it. He as far as I know does not drink Tru Blood and actually condones feeding from humans. I mean Pam had to learn that from someone. He also shown no problems with killing humans either.
Richard3 Rank: Guest Star
July 30th, 2012 10:47 AM
Speaking of Eric, I confess to being slightly confused by Eric's motivations this season. Eric was never really a main-streamer, it seemed like he was just more an opportunist. He certainly never rejected feeding on humans, nor did it seem like he found any sanctity in human life (aside from Sookie's I guess).
The only rationale I see for him being against this new Authority is that it's driven by religious fervor.
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Regardless, I'm digging the Bill / Eric team-up. Way better than them fighting over Sookie every scene.
Richard3 Rank: Guest Star
July 30th, 2012 10:42 AM
@Chris O'Hara: Thanks for the props. If you factor out Sookie, Bill's central conflict has always been about his love/hate relationship with being a vampire.
I remember thinking in season 1 that Bill must be a somewhat unique vampire, with his lamenting pretty much the entire way they live...more along the lines of an Angel from Buffy (vampire with a soul).
They've down played that since he became a king, and also once Eric got heavily involved.
I've always been a Bill fan...even though they've tried really hard in the last couple of seasons to cut him down so they could raise Eric up.
Doe-Rae-Me
July 30th, 2012 10:17 AM
Can a fairy become a vamp? What would happen to their fairy magic? Sookie will be a sitting duck if she loses her fairy magic, unless she left Earth for Fae. What will Sookie's ENDGAME be? Is it inevitable that Sookie will turn into a vamp? If Sookie were to become a vamp, would she then permanently retain her fairy magic? Is Warlo a vamp turned from someone like Sookie?
Doe-Rae-Me
July 30th, 2012 10:04 AM
When Sookie linked with the vamp that killed her parents I thought it must be a vamp who has drunk from Sookie, but then Claudine called the vamp by name (Warlo.) Also, the face apparition in the bathroom made it pretty apparent that this vamp is not your typical vamp. I wonder if this vamp could have his different set of abilities because he`s a fairy turned into a vamp.
cacherr1
July 30th, 2012 9:46 AM
I don't recall Alan or anyone from the show overhyping Christopher Meloni's stint, if anything the one character heavily promoted was Russell. Roman only got that promo and one interview. Most of promotion came from the media and fans as this was post Law&Order gig but the show itself never overhype the character. The has been quite clear Russell the character to watch. This is not like when Julie Plec overhype Sebastian Roche's character of Mikael on TVD, at least Roman served a purpose before his death and I still don't think we seen the last of him.
And to answer the question think most of the people who have issues with this season are those who wish it focus on Sookie and romances. For me the reason why season 4 was not that good (I actually enjoy the witches' plot, they were justify in their anger and need for vengence) was because there was too much concentration on that stuff (looking back on it Sooric barely interacted with other characters all season until the end, a
Terrie Rank: Regular Character
July 30th, 2012 9:29 AM
I am one of the ones who continues to be disappointed in this season. I think Hera hit the nail on the head with his/her comments.
They made a HUGE deal about Christopher Meloni joining the cast yet he ends up killed off.........
There are ENTIRELY TOO MANY ARCS!!!!! It's getting confusing.
Bill about to go rogue?!?! Eric second guessing everything?!!?! Sookie might as well be non existent this season.........Jessica, Lafayette, Sam, Luna, Jason, Terry TOO MANY CHARACTERS........I liked it better when one central evil was the focus........I think that's the way it should be since there's so few episodes.........I will keep watching though.........
Chris O'Hara Rank: Staff Member
July 30th, 2012 8:23 AM
@Richard3 I do believe you are onto something. I was thinking about Bill's angle this morning and was so pumped to read your comment because I came to the same conclusion over my morning coffee. Nice on you for realizing it so fast like you did. Salome's dig that Bill should have made his children vampire if he loved them so much says it all. Bill let his daughter die BECAUSE he loved her so much. It also harkens back to his fake glamour speech to Sookie. With Tru-Blood gone the governments around the world would be forced to take action and wipe out the curse that in Bill's mind is vampire if they start feeding exclusively again on humans. Could they all become like the Cullens in Twilight and just hunt deer and wild game?
whateva
July 30th, 2012 8:16 AM
BTW I love Hoyt reply to Jessica after her "thanks" because it was totally appropriate and has been what I wanted Hoyt to say since Jessica been so callous when it came to his feelings. She had no remorse over what she did.
Priscila
July 30th, 2012 8:14 AM
Call me crazy, but this is the first season that I connect with Tara and Sam. I'm really liking the new story lines for those two!
To be honest, Im really liking all of them. For me the season start a little slow, but now it's on his best, once again.
NOW, one thought: could be other creature, maybe a half something, that killed Stackhouse parents?
UncleOlaph
July 30th, 2012 8:07 AM
Has anyone else noticed how the Sherrif's guns are getting bigger each show?
pratik
July 30th, 2012 5:20 AM
Loving this season....One of the best of True Blood....Hoping for some awesomeness from Eric next episode!
Nicole
July 30th, 2012 2:11 AM
I am LOVING this season. I am actually surprised by plot developments. I have no idea what is coming, and I love it. It has been a couple seasons since I was so interested in every story and genuinely surprised by what happens. Sure I don't have some of my favourite relationships to fall back on. I miss my Eric/Sookie interactions, but their individual stories are so fascinating that it makes up for it. I am also happy Sookie is not the central driving force of the season, and I think she is a better character for it.
Not sure if 'boring' is an apt description for me. Don't get me wrong - i love the show. But so far this season, there are extreme changes. It's not like in the past - where we had Maryanne or some other single evil character to carry us through the season. This season, there's so much going on that I think it's hard to dissect each individual plot or twist - ie: factions, vamp vs human war, the hate group, Sookie & Jason's struggle to avenge their parents' death, the Ifrit, Tara etc etc.
Once I get my head wrapped around all of these plots and subplots i should be ok...lol. Here's to hoping that they get a few of these resolved soon so I can clear the clutter from my head.
Hera
July 30th, 2012 12:21 AM
Unfortunately, the show is still boring me. There are thankfully some very interesting little bits that have popped up now (Lilith's appearance, the Sookie mystery, and the apparent plan to bomb the Tru Blood factories) - but that's still just about 11 minutes out of the last few shows. Most everything else - the werewolf pack's V drama, Terry's smoke monster, the shifter haters, Jessica's weekly clubing/feeding/finding-herself ways, and Lafayette's mediumship feel like filler. There are too many little strings making a tangled web of this season and obscuring the few small things that are fascinating. I'm with others who say S5 is giving way too much screen time away to undeserving characters/plots.
At the end of the day I'll still keep watching to find out what's going on with Sookie and her powers & past, with a little interest reserved for the Authority's doomsday goals and maybe even the Tara/Pam relationship, but I most definitely won't be buying this season or rewatching
Marie
July 30th, 2012 12:19 AM
I also think the girl Sam was smelling in the room is Maxine! She's always hated vampires so it makes sense.
Marie
July 30th, 2012 12:14 AM
I wish we got more Sookie. She seems to be a side storyline this season. I am loving her and Jason's scenes together. Love the brother/sister love. They're all each other has. I wish Roman wasn't killed off so early. For all the hype they made about him joining the show he didn't make much of an impression. also wish sookie and eric team up again. They could help Bill and bring down the authority. Eric is rockin this season!
m
July 30th, 2012 12:00 AM
I am also confused about why so many fans feel let down by this season. my opinion is that a good show progresses with every season. Wouldn't it get boring eventually to follow the exact same formula every season? And besides Eric's character development has been great - he was always one of the most interesting characters on True Blood.
Richard3 Rank: Guest Star
July 29th, 2012 11:39 PM
So here's my theory so far on Bill:
The flashback of him attending his daughter's deathbed didn't give him any reason to go further over to the "dark side", but I think it may have given us a clue to his endgame. He called immortality a curse.
I wonder if Bill hasn't gone from a man turned against his will, to a human-killing vampire of the "purest form", to a mainstreamer who thinks vampires can co-exist with humans now that Tru-Blood is around, to a vampire who, seeing that vampires will never stop murdering humans, sees no other way than to start a war so that all vampires are wiped out...
Bill always did strike me as having retained a lot of his humanity (or at least having gained it back) and seems a self-hating vampire.
Or...maybe he really is going over to the "dark side"...
(Pam and Tara kiss) Sookie: Oh, ok. Jessica: I knew it!
July 30th, 2012 10:57 AM
@Richard3
I too am bit confused by Eric's motivations, he seem not pro-mainstreaming and even frowned upon it. He as far as I know does not drink Tru Blood and actually condones feeding from humans. I mean Pam had to learn that from someone. He also shown no problems with killing humans either.
Rank: Guest Star
July 30th, 2012 10:47 AM
Speaking of Eric, I confess to being slightly confused by Eric's motivations this season. Eric was never really a main-streamer, it seemed like he was just more an opportunist. He certainly never rejected feeding on humans, nor did it seem like he found any sanctity in human life (aside from Sookie's I guess).
The only rationale I see for him being against this new Authority is that it's driven by religious fervor.
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Regardless, I'm digging the Bill / Eric team-up. Way better than them fighting over Sookie every scene.
Rank: Guest Star
July 30th, 2012 10:42 AM
@Chris O'Hara: Thanks for the props. If you factor out Sookie, Bill's central conflict has always been about his love/hate relationship with being a vampire.
I remember thinking in season 1 that Bill must be a somewhat unique vampire, with his lamenting pretty much the entire way they live...more along the lines of an Angel from Buffy (vampire with a soul).
They've down played that since he became a king, and also once Eric got heavily involved.
I've always been a Bill fan...even though they've tried really hard in the last couple of seasons to cut him down so they could raise Eric up.
July 30th, 2012 10:17 AM
Can a fairy become a vamp? What would happen to their fairy magic? Sookie will be a sitting duck if she loses her fairy magic, unless she left Earth for Fae. What will Sookie's ENDGAME be? Is it inevitable that Sookie will turn into a vamp? If Sookie were to become a vamp, would she then permanently retain her fairy magic? Is Warlo a vamp turned from someone like Sookie?
July 30th, 2012 10:04 AM
When Sookie linked with the vamp that killed her parents I thought it must be a vamp who has drunk from Sookie, but then Claudine called the vamp by name (Warlo.) Also, the face apparition in the bathroom made it pretty apparent that this vamp is not your typical vamp. I wonder if this vamp could have his different set of abilities because he`s a fairy turned into a vamp.
July 30th, 2012 9:46 AM
I don't recall Alan or anyone from the show overhyping Christopher Meloni's stint, if anything the one character heavily promoted was Russell. Roman only got that promo and one interview. Most of promotion came from the media and fans as this was post Law&Order gig but the show itself never overhype the character. The has been quite clear Russell the character to watch. This is not like when Julie Plec overhype Sebastian Roche's character of Mikael on TVD, at least Roman served a purpose before his death and I still don't think we seen the last of him.
And to answer the question think most of the people who have issues with this season are those who wish it focus on Sookie and romances. For me the reason why season 4 was not that good (I actually enjoy the witches' plot, they were justify in their anger and need for vengence) was because there was too much concentration on that stuff (looking back on it Sooric barely interacted with other characters all season until the end, a
Rank: Regular Character
July 30th, 2012 9:29 AM
I am one of the ones who continues to be disappointed in this season. I think Hera hit the nail on the head with his/her comments.
They made a HUGE deal about Christopher Meloni joining the cast yet he ends up killed off.........
There are ENTIRELY TOO MANY ARCS!!!!! It's getting confusing.
Bill about to go rogue?!?! Eric second guessing everything?!!?! Sookie might as well be non existent this season.........Jessica, Lafayette, Sam, Luna, Jason, Terry TOO MANY CHARACTERS........I liked it better when one central evil was the focus........I think that's the way it should be since there's so few episodes.........I will keep watching though.........
Rank: Staff Member
July 30th, 2012 8:23 AM
@Richard3 I do believe you are onto something. I was thinking about Bill's angle this morning and was so pumped to read your comment because I came to the same conclusion over my morning coffee. Nice on you for realizing it so fast like you did. Salome's dig that Bill should have made his children vampire if he loved them so much says it all. Bill let his daughter die BECAUSE he loved her so much. It also harkens back to his fake glamour speech to Sookie. With Tru-Blood gone the governments around the world would be forced to take action and wipe out the curse that in Bill's mind is vampire if they start feeding exclusively again on humans. Could they all become like the Cullens in Twilight and just hunt deer and wild game?
July 30th, 2012 8:16 AM
BTW I love Hoyt reply to Jessica after her "thanks" because it was totally appropriate and has been what I wanted Hoyt to say since Jessica been so callous when it came to his feelings. She had no remorse over what she did.
July 30th, 2012 8:14 AM
Call me crazy, but this is the first season that I connect with Tara and Sam. I'm really liking the new story lines for those two!
To be honest, Im really liking all of them. For me the season start a little slow, but now it's on his best, once again.
NOW, one thought: could be other creature, maybe a half something, that killed Stackhouse parents?
July 30th, 2012 8:07 AM
Has anyone else noticed how the Sherrif's guns are getting bigger each show?
July 30th, 2012 5:20 AM
Loving this season....One of the best of True Blood....Hoping for some awesomeness from Eric next episode!
July 30th, 2012 2:11 AM
I am LOVING this season. I am actually surprised by plot developments. I have no idea what is coming, and I love it. It has been a couple seasons since I was so interested in every story and genuinely surprised by what happens. Sure I don't have some of my favourite relationships to fall back on. I miss my Eric/Sookie interactions, but their individual stories are so fascinating that it makes up for it. I am also happy Sookie is not the central driving force of the season, and I think she is a better character for it.
Rank: New User
July 30th, 2012 1:06 AM
Not sure if 'boring' is an apt description for me. Don't get me wrong - i love the show. But so far this season, there are extreme changes. It's not like in the past - where we had Maryanne or some other single evil character to carry us through the season. This season, there's so much going on that I think it's hard to dissect each individual plot or twist - ie: factions, vamp vs human war, the hate group, Sookie & Jason's struggle to avenge their parents' death, the Ifrit, Tara etc etc.
Once I get my head wrapped around all of these plots and subplots i should be ok...lol. Here's to hoping that they get a few of these resolved soon so I can clear the clutter from my head.
July 30th, 2012 12:21 AM
Unfortunately, the show is still boring me. There are thankfully some very interesting little bits that have popped up now (Lilith's appearance, the Sookie mystery, and the apparent plan to bomb the Tru Blood factories) - but that's still just about 11 minutes out of the last few shows. Most everything else - the werewolf pack's V drama, Terry's smoke monster, the shifter haters, Jessica's weekly clubing/feeding/finding-herself ways, and Lafayette's mediumship feel like filler. There are too many little strings making a tangled web of this season and obscuring the few small things that are fascinating. I'm with others who say S5 is giving way too much screen time away to undeserving characters/plots.
At the end of the day I'll still keep watching to find out what's going on with Sookie and her powers & past, with a little interest reserved for the Authority's doomsday goals and maybe even the Tara/Pam relationship, but I most definitely won't be buying this season or rewatching
July 30th, 2012 12:19 AM
I also think the girl Sam was smelling in the room is Maxine! She's always hated vampires so it makes sense.
July 30th, 2012 12:14 AM
I wish we got more Sookie. She seems to be a side storyline this season. I am loving her and Jason's scenes together. Love the brother/sister love. They're all each other has. I wish Roman wasn't killed off so early. For all the hype they made about him joining the show he didn't make much of an impression. also wish sookie and eric team up again. They could help Bill and bring down the authority. Eric is rockin this season!
July 30th, 2012 12:00 AM
I am also confused about why so many fans feel let down by this season. my opinion is that a good show progresses with every season. Wouldn't it get boring eventually to follow the exact same formula every season? And besides Eric's character development has been great - he was always one of the most interesting characters on True Blood.
Rank: Guest Star
July 29th, 2012 11:39 PM
So here's my theory so far on Bill:
The flashback of him attending his daughter's deathbed didn't give him any reason to go further over to the "dark side", but I think it may have given us a clue to his endgame. He called immortality a curse.
I wonder if Bill hasn't gone from a man turned against his will, to a human-killing vampire of the "purest form", to a mainstreamer who thinks vampires can co-exist with humans now that Tru-Blood is around, to a vampire who, seeing that vampires will never stop murdering humans, sees no other way than to start a war so that all vampires are wiped out...
Bill always did strike me as having retained a lot of his humanity (or at least having gained it back) and seems a self-hating vampire.
Or...maybe he really is going over to the "dark side"...