joyeful Rank: Regular Character
August 21st, 2012 11:29 PM
@KansasGuest - LOL!! AGREED!! Mother of sweet things - can EVERY episode PLEASE have a shirtless Renard scene?? Have mercy...
Oh boy, Mama Grimm is keeping secrets. Who didn't see that coming...
joyeful Rank: Regular Character
August 21st, 2012 11:28 PM
That was an edge-of-my-seat episode. I was practically yelling at the screen, "Nick! THE PHONE CALL!!" Every episode makes me love Giuntoli more.
Rosalee and Monroe are an AWESOME couple. Nick and Juliette - not so much. They're lacking chemistry; I wasn't even convinced when he ran to her awakened side. However, if they're gonna work the fall-in-love-again angle, that might give them something to build on, and us something to root for.
I think Hank deserves a hand of applause for his most convincing scene in the show's history, when he asked Nick not to betray him. It's between that and the last season when he met the mother of a crime victim.
Renard is half-Wesen royalty!! He's a "bastard", he's barely human, and that was what I think was a Hexenbiest face change. That would sort of explain him - the man would have to be a survivor to make it as a bastard child in a royal family. He looks out for himself.
@KansasGuest - LOL!! AGREED!! Mother of sweet things - can EV
artimisia
August 21st, 2012 9:31 PM
((It cut have my comment off. Here's the rest))
Maybe he wants to put Nick into a situation where the Grimm will end up working for him (just like the Grimms in Europe do for the Royals) so that he can whip the Portland Wessin into shape and take over their community. We've seen from his dream sequence (when he had the coins) that he's ambitious and that he wants subjects. And that would make sense if that's his family legacy, and yet it's been denied to him.
It would even explain his contradictory behavior up till now. One minute he's trying to murder Aunt Marie (to stop anyone else from gaining influence over "his" Grimm) and the next he's protecting Nick from the Reapers (because he needs Nick if he's ever going to establish his rule). So his actions aren't motivated either by evil bad-assery, or good guy compassion. Instead, everything he's done would be out of pure ambition. Even saving Juliette fits (so Nick won't leave, and possibly so he can tie another string to him.)
artimisia
August 21st, 2012 9:28 PM
I have a theory about Renard. I don't think he's necessarily trying to get into his family's good books...or at least not *just* that. I think he's trying to gain power in Portaland. Think about it. As a bastard with other Princely brothers, and a well-controlled Europe, he probably found himself in the position of having the title, but none of the power that went with it. The full-blooded members of his family are probably the rulers. We also know that the Royal Families don't rule America the way they do the "Old World". So what if he's trying to create a miniature kingdom for himself by taking over Portland.
He could have come here with his family's blessing because they want him to get that key from Nick, but actually have bigger plans he didn't tell the family about. Maybe he wants to put Nick into a situation where the Grimm will end up working for him (just like the Grimms in Europe do for the Royals) so that he can whip the Portland Wessin into shape and take over their com
Fantasma
August 21st, 2012 8:58 PM
KansasGuest,
I forgot to mention that too and I have to agree! Isn't that amazing that the Girl with the Dragon Tatoo had much more chemistry with Nick in just one episode than Juliette in the whole series so far?
I mean, J is just so... whatever. I think the writers need to dramatically change her (which I think it's going to happen now, with all the amnesia thing) or get rid of her and introduce a better counterpart to Nick (preferably one with a little more fire in her soul).
DeAnn Rank: Recurring Character
August 21st, 2012 8:04 PM
I have to say I was surprised that Captain Reynard was such a hottie without his shirt on! I was also surprised at how he was able to drink down that really horrid looking potion that was, ugh, chunky with brown stuff, and go through whatever throes of pain it took to get his heart to be pure. I agree with those who think Juliette is going to have feelings for the Captain now that he has kissed her awake. All in all, a fascinating episode, but I am not liking the new voice-over introduction to the show. Why do we need that now? Everyone who watches the show knows what it is about without the voiceover.
KansasGuest Rank: Recurring Character
August 21st, 2012 6:45 PM
@Fantasma - Agree with you about Juliet. I want the FireEater/Dragon Lady (Danielle Panabacker) back. She seemed dangerous and unstable. I think it would add an interesting element if dragons were not allied with any side and could be an ally of Nick's.
KansasGuest Rank: Recurring Character
August 21st, 2012 6:41 PM
Have to hand it to Mama Grimm. She is a FORCE to be reckoned with! She killed both a mauvais dentes and MamaHexenbeist in 24 hours and was as cool as a cucumber. I do believe she cares about her son, and that she left to protect her family. Her conversation with Mrs. Shays indicated as much. But, there is more to the story than she is letting on. Perhaps she went undercover for a larger Grimm/Templar Knights organization for a reason yet TBA. I loved her reaction to Rosalee's hug.
As for Capt. Renard, I don't care if he's pure or a demon, tanned or glowing red. Can we just have more scenes of him tearing his shirt off, please? Preferably while speaking French. Merci beaucoup!
Fantasma
August 21st, 2012 6:10 PM
First, I was disappointed at Renard's brother sleeping clothes, they weren't princely at all.
Second, I wondered if Renard may not possess a double personality. When he was looking at the mirror and seemed to be afraid of taking the potion I thought that there could be another person/thing inside him, not only his wesen form, but actually another personality.
Third and final: Juliette makes no difference at all to me. She could be in a coma the rest of the season and the series would go on perfectly without her. I think they need to make her presence really important, so that people will actually miss her in action. But maybe it's just me who thinks so.
Sorry for any mistakes, english is not my first language.
Robert A. Rosenberg
August 21st, 2012 12:05 PM
Kol(Devil in Disguise)-Dande asked "I would like to know how come only royalty can awake Juliette."
It was not that he was a royal but he was pure (due to taking the magic potion). This was stated by the witch. If Nick had kissed her before the Captain did HE would have waken her instead ("True Loves Kiss by someone pure"). The Captain wanted to do it since he did not know that Nick was working on a solution (and possibly there is some bonding to whoever woke her). She had to be woken or Nick might leave town after she died (something that the Captain wanted to prevent - He wants/needs Nick staying).
Trisha Espoltl
August 21st, 2012 11:45 AM
BEST SHOW BESIDES PERCEPTION! Acting is great, writing is wonderfully creative, differently cleaver, and interestingly compelling. D and R are great together! Love the humor side of R! This is a keeper like Perception. Noway is it even close to Angel or Buffy, far superior to those!!!
SMS
August 21st, 2012 10:32 AM
This series has been awesome. I can't believe the action scenes, wow. Kudos to the actors and the writers. I'm so glad the new season has begun.
So I guess Nick and Juliette will have to fall in love all over again which would technically bring her memories back? That could be a fascinating storyline.
Either way I smell Angel Season Two level of angst in store for this season.
Uhh, this show has improved so much since pilot.asadsdasfasdasdfas.
kat
August 21st, 2012 12:11 AM
Last week I was already to say Renard is a good guy...now I am not sure again. I think your theory is correct or more fear it because it means he will sell out Nick in the end. I hope he comes to a different conclusion because of his time amonst the peasants. i am thinking he & hellboy have a lot in common...did you see 1 color he turned was valentine red. I am also hoping Mama Burkhardt sticks around...I couldn't help thinking that while she & Rosalee might meet a common ground that her and Juliet might not (and we would be torn or at least I would be because I couldn't stand her at first and really liked her by the end of the first season).
Margaret
August 20th, 2012 11:36 PM
nick & his mom's fight with the mauvais dentes was insane!!! as was his mom's fight with adalind's mom. those were some insane stunts! also, thank you grimm for finally giving the captain something to do! can't wait to read sasha roiz's tweets tonight about what it was like to film that episode, such a good one!
Hookified(dande) Rank: Regular Character
August 20th, 2012 11:24 PM
Yes I love Monalee in this episode. I am also falling in love with the mother and hope they make her a regular. They had to make me smile that Juliette is awake only to crush it again. I would like to know how come only royalty can awake Juliette. Nice castle the Renard family have and I was freak out by Captain wesen form.
Rank: Regular Character
August 21st, 2012 11:29 PM
@KansasGuest - LOL!! AGREED!! Mother of sweet things - can EVERY episode PLEASE have a shirtless Renard scene?? Have mercy...
Oh boy, Mama Grimm is keeping secrets. Who didn't see that coming...
Rank: Regular Character
August 21st, 2012 11:28 PM
That was an edge-of-my-seat episode. I was practically yelling at the screen, "Nick! THE PHONE CALL!!" Every episode makes me love Giuntoli more.
Rosalee and Monroe are an AWESOME couple. Nick and Juliette - not so much. They're lacking chemistry; I wasn't even convinced when he ran to her awakened side. However, if they're gonna work the fall-in-love-again angle, that might give them something to build on, and us something to root for.
I think Hank deserves a hand of applause for his most convincing scene in the show's history, when he asked Nick not to betray him. It's between that and the last season when he met the mother of a crime victim.
Renard is half-Wesen royalty!! He's a "bastard", he's barely human, and that was what I think was a Hexenbiest face change. That would sort of explain him - the man would have to be a survivor to make it as a bastard child in a royal family. He looks out for himself.
@KansasGuest - LOL!! AGREED!! Mother of sweet things - can EV
August 21st, 2012 9:31 PM
((It cut have my comment off. Here's the rest))
Maybe he wants to put Nick into a situation where the Grimm will end up working for him (just like the Grimms in Europe do for the Royals) so that he can whip the Portland Wessin into shape and take over their community. We've seen from his dream sequence (when he had the coins) that he's ambitious and that he wants subjects. And that would make sense if that's his family legacy, and yet it's been denied to him.
It would even explain his contradictory behavior up till now. One minute he's trying to murder Aunt Marie (to stop anyone else from gaining influence over "his" Grimm) and the next he's protecting Nick from the Reapers (because he needs Nick if he's ever going to establish his rule). So his actions aren't motivated either by evil bad-assery, or good guy compassion. Instead, everything he's done would be out of pure ambition. Even saving Juliette fits (so Nick won't leave, and possibly so he can tie another string to him.)
August 21st, 2012 9:28 PM
I have a theory about Renard. I don't think he's necessarily trying to get into his family's good books...or at least not *just* that. I think he's trying to gain power in Portaland. Think about it. As a bastard with other Princely brothers, and a well-controlled Europe, he probably found himself in the position of having the title, but none of the power that went with it. The full-blooded members of his family are probably the rulers. We also know that the Royal Families don't rule America the way they do the "Old World". So what if he's trying to create a miniature kingdom for himself by taking over Portland.
He could have come here with his family's blessing because they want him to get that key from Nick, but actually have bigger plans he didn't tell the family about. Maybe he wants to put Nick into a situation where the Grimm will end up working for him (just like the Grimms in Europe do for the Royals) so that he can whip the Portland Wessin into shape and take over their com
August 21st, 2012 8:58 PM
KansasGuest,
I forgot to mention that too and I have to agree! Isn't that amazing that the Girl with the Dragon Tatoo had much more chemistry with Nick in just one episode than Juliette in the whole series so far?
I mean, J is just so... whatever. I think the writers need to dramatically change her (which I think it's going to happen now, with all the amnesia thing) or get rid of her and introduce a better counterpart to Nick (preferably one with a little more fire in her soul).
Rank: Recurring Character
August 21st, 2012 8:04 PM
I have to say I was surprised that Captain Reynard was such a hottie without his shirt on! I was also surprised at how he was able to drink down that really horrid looking potion that was, ugh, chunky with brown stuff, and go through whatever throes of pain it took to get his heart to be pure. I agree with those who think Juliette is going to have feelings for the Captain now that he has kissed her awake. All in all, a fascinating episode, but I am not liking the new voice-over introduction to the show. Why do we need that now? Everyone who watches the show knows what it is about without the voiceover.
Rank: Recurring Character
August 21st, 2012 6:45 PM
@Fantasma - Agree with you about Juliet. I want the FireEater/Dragon Lady (Danielle Panabacker) back. She seemed dangerous and unstable. I think it would add an interesting element if dragons were not allied with any side and could be an ally of Nick's.
Rank: Recurring Character
August 21st, 2012 6:41 PM
Have to hand it to Mama Grimm. She is a FORCE to be reckoned with! She killed both a mauvais dentes and MamaHexenbeist in 24 hours and was as cool as a cucumber. I do believe she cares about her son, and that she left to protect her family. Her conversation with Mrs. Shays indicated as much. But, there is more to the story than she is letting on. Perhaps she went undercover for a larger Grimm/Templar Knights organization for a reason yet TBA. I loved her reaction to Rosalee's hug.
As for Capt. Renard, I don't care if he's pure or a demon, tanned or glowing red. Can we just have more scenes of him tearing his shirt off, please? Preferably while speaking French. Merci beaucoup!
August 21st, 2012 6:10 PM
First, I was disappointed at Renard's brother sleeping clothes, they weren't princely at all.
Second, I wondered if Renard may not possess a double personality. When he was looking at the mirror and seemed to be afraid of taking the potion I thought that there could be another person/thing inside him, not only his wesen form, but actually another personality.
Third and final: Juliette makes no difference at all to me. She could be in a coma the rest of the season and the series would go on perfectly without her. I think they need to make her presence really important, so that people will actually miss her in action. But maybe it's just me who thinks so.
Sorry for any mistakes, english is not my first language.
August 21st, 2012 12:05 PM
Kol(Devil in Disguise)-Dande asked "I would like to know how come only royalty can awake Juliette."
It was not that he was a royal but he was pure (due to taking the magic potion). This was stated by the witch. If Nick had kissed her before the Captain did HE would have waken her instead ("True Loves Kiss by someone pure"). The Captain wanted to do it since he did not know that Nick was working on a solution (and possibly there is some bonding to whoever woke her). She had to be woken or Nick might leave town after she died (something that the Captain wanted to prevent - He wants/needs Nick staying).
August 21st, 2012 11:45 AM
BEST SHOW BESIDES PERCEPTION! Acting is great, writing is wonderfully creative, differently cleaver, and interestingly compelling. D and R are great together! Love the humor side of R! This is a keeper like Perception. Noway is it even close to Angel or Buffy, far superior to those!!!
August 21st, 2012 10:32 AM
This series has been awesome. I can't believe the action scenes, wow. Kudos to the actors and the writers. I'm so glad the new season has begun.
August 21st, 2012 9:02 AM
So I guess Nick and Juliette will have to fall in love all over again which would technically bring her memories back? That could be a fascinating storyline.
Either way I smell Angel Season Two level of angst in store for this season.
Uhh, this show has improved so much since pilot.asadsdasfasdasdfas.
August 21st, 2012 12:11 AM
Last week I was already to say Renard is a good guy...now I am not sure again. I think your theory is correct or more fear it because it means he will sell out Nick in the end. I hope he comes to a different conclusion because of his time amonst the peasants. i am thinking he & hellboy have a lot in common...did you see 1 color he turned was valentine red. I am also hoping Mama Burkhardt sticks around...I couldn't help thinking that while she & Rosalee might meet a common ground that her and Juliet might not (and we would be torn or at least I would be because I couldn't stand her at first and really liked her by the end of the first season).
August 20th, 2012 11:36 PM
nick & his mom's fight with the mauvais dentes was insane!!! as was his mom's fight with adalind's mom. those were some insane stunts! also, thank you grimm for finally giving the captain something to do! can't wait to read sasha roiz's tweets tonight about what it was like to film that episode, such a good one!
Rank: Regular Character
August 20th, 2012 11:24 PM
Yes I love Monalee in this episode. I am also falling in love with the mother and hope they make her a regular. They had to make me smile that Juliette is awake only to crush it again. I would like to know how come only royalty can awake Juliette. Nice castle the Renard family have and I was freak out by Captain wesen form.