Hell on Wheels Season Finale Review: This Means War Comments (Page 3)
220 Comments
jbob
October 16th, 2012 8:27 PM
There is something not right about this episode. When Cullen is being questioned he asked where Durant was, when he clearly saw he was still around after the "death" of Lily. That pretty much tells you that one way or other she isn't dead. Most likely the "story" we see is something told by Cullen to the people questioning him. Maybe he lied about Lily's death so he could more easily assume control of the railroad. Lily said herself the board back east would never let her run it, so I reckon there is something there. ALTERNATIVELY, if the show is cancelled, the death of Lily is a sort of fitting end to the show.
Ken KEassler
October 16th, 2012 5:35 PM
I agree Bring Lily back!!! Kess48
Charlie
October 16th, 2012 4:15 PM
Strangle victims have been known to be revived.....
Michelle
October 16th, 2012 12:24 PM
I love this show!! But if Lily is gone I probably am to.
marilyn
October 16th, 2012 10:52 AM
i want Lily to be revived ....I think she might be since she was not buried and laid on the table atthe church...bring Lily back
Allan Menzies
October 16th, 2012 10:48 AM
I think the appropritae call is that when Cullen left Lilly at the Church, a faint pulse was found by the young minister, and she was revived.............I love this show............but this ripped my guts out...........Don't need to soap it up with a twin sister............just bring her back from the brink.................hell, they brought back Mr. tool after being shot in the mouth!!!!!!!!!
blueser
October 16th, 2012 8:58 AM
To all those that claim they will not watch if Lily is dead you need to curl up with your cats, have a cup of tea and read romance novels. This show is not for you.
Life was hard then. People died. Nasty deeds were done. That's just the reality of it all, and I personally think the writers have done an excellent job of portraying it. No one likes to lose a beloved character, but hey, that's the way it was.
I will continue to watch for as long as the show airs, and I hope it keeps delivering the gut wrenching story of what it could have been like living in a railroad camp. Well done.
Sharaya
October 16th, 2012 2:58 AM
Ugh, Lily better not be dead, i doubt she is, the writers cannot be that dense, and if they are they must have something even more intriguing/amazing up their sleeves. But Lily was the greatest counterpart to Cullen. She is probably still breathing and is still alive, I'm living onthat hope for now.
Maria
October 16th, 2012 2:06 AM
I don't think Lily is dead because if you look closely as the camera panned at her, there was a pulse by her neck, hence Cullen made that slight reaction to his face...the kind that he can't believe that she's alive. That's why he took her to Ruth because how can a guy at that time take care of a woman who is not his wife, another woman would be appropriate in taking care of her. Plus if she's dead, he would have really be so mad at the Swede, he was reserved because he does not want to let him know that she's actually alive.
DMH
October 15th, 2012 8:17 PM
If Mr. O'Toole came back from being shot in the mouth by Elam then the writers need to find a way to bring LILY back!!!
mdfaraone
October 15th, 2012 1:54 PM
Killing off Lily RUINED the show for both me and my wife, we are both still furious days later, it served no purpose and as a matter of fact it destroyed all the groundwork that was laid in the previous two seasons, especially in the brutal dispicable manner with which she was dispatched, by a character whose brains Bohannon should have blown out ten times already, it's almost ridiculous to believe that Bohannon can euthanise his best friend yet would continue to let a man as knowingly evil and cunning as the Swede live time after time. He already lost his wife and kid and hasn't finished his quest for vengeance for them, now they kill off his chance for redemption and love, there is only so much a man can take before he would just snap and not care about anything anymore. I won't be watching season 3, I'm sick of these writers thinking they are so clever,I'm getting flashbacks of "Prison Break" ,another show that was ruined for us by the nihilist writers.
Joyce
October 15th, 2012 1:24 PM
I don't think Lily is dead because Bohannon brought her to Ruth because he knew she would pray for Lily's healing.
ray
October 15th, 2012 1:13 PM
Great show and will miss if does not return. Writers made big mistake with swede's brutal killing of the guard. Killing off Lily mskes no sense at all. She and Cullen are the mainstays of the show.
Bring back the show and Lily
Donna
October 15th, 2012 12:12 PM
Personally, I felt as though I had lost a member of my family last night when Lily died. I, for one, will NOT be watching a Season 3 unless they can find a way to resurrect her. I agree that the writers need to remember Dallas and see what they can creatively come up with!
Ana
October 15th, 2012 7:38 AM
I just want to make a clarification: It is not because I am a woman I was disturbed with this finale. I do not need romance in the plot to watch a show or movie. It was the way it happened, and its lack of purpose, other than to pretend that this is a serious series "not for sissies..." It was also my feminist (not my "feminine") self that protested the brutal killing of a strong female lead who challenged gender stereotypes.
Kaipo
October 15th, 2012 1:01 AM
Of course, that's if there is a season 3 and if Lily Bell is actually dead. And I worded the last part of my last post wrong but I think people get the point.
Kaipo
October 15th, 2012 12:52 AM
I agree tyler. I've talked to so many people who won't be watching next season if Lily is dead. Between friends, University, and work I must have talked with at least 30+ women over the week who felt that way. Just looking at the comments here you can tell that a lot of women watch the show, and that both men and women have really grown attached to the character. I read a review or something where the writer wrote "this isn't a soap opera."(he even quoted some of the responses here) And while that is true, to potentially alienate a large portion of your fan base in an incredibly stupid move. Adding that to the people who quit watching throughout the season, there's a good chance AMC may have dug their own grave.
tyler
October 14th, 2012 11:48 PM
Is AMC really willing to sacrifice half their viewers to kill off Lilly? Surely they will lose any female viewers they had. Besides that they will lose a ton of guys because she was the only attractive character on the show. Rethink your decision AMC.
Caso haja realmente uma terceira temporada, que espero ardentemente, a morte da Lily pode abrir um espaço para o Cullen voltar ao seu objetivo original, que ficou meio perdido, vingar a morte de sua família. Tá eu também concordo que a morte de Lily foi demais, mas não haveria possibilidade caso ela vivesse, pois ele foi explícito quando disse " só tenho meu emprego e você", ai que lindo!, mas eu ainda acredito que foi melhor assim. O Cullen no original, vingativo e feroz dá mais opções caso tenha mais uma temporada. Caso ele fique na construção da ferrovia, teremos um problema, então...... Sei lá. Só quero a tenha uma 3ª temporada, ficar sem o Cullen... nem pensar. Ele foi o melhor personagem que criaram nos últimos tempos, estava cheia de meninos e vampiros.
Linda
October 14th, 2012 9:04 PM
This was one of my favorite shows but killing Lily after all she and Cullen have been through is just crazy!!!!! If she doesn't return I will find another show where the writers are smart enough not to kill the best part of the show! Geeeezzz!
Swdore
October 14th, 2012 5:19 PM
I hope to god that Cullen would have been just telling the government that Lily is dead. But she really isn't. It was so sad. I hope to god there is another season. HELL ON WHEELS!
Joanne
October 14th, 2012 5:09 PM
This is one of those finales that you think about days after it's over. I can't believe Lily is dead! She was such a great character. I'm thinking thats it's going to be like the famous Dallas finale where Bobby dies and then in the following season we find out that it was just a bad dream. Who's Bohannon's love interest supposed to be now, one of the whores?
Ana
October 14th, 2012 4:57 PM
RETARDED and disgusting finale plot and ending. Seriously? I hadn't realized the Swede is Freddy Cruger or Jason, die-hard and superhumanly powerful. Give me a break. I am SO NOT watching a third season, which is sad because I did like all the actors. But to kill the gogetter female lead, and kill her in such fashion, uhm, no. Big faux pas. Someone else said they had nightmares after it. So did I. I thought this show being on AMC meant that it could avoid sensationalism and purposless violence but I guess I was wrong
bonnie
October 14th, 2012 3:20 PM
I do not thinking lilly is dead...no way.
Beverly
October 14th, 2012 2:00 PM
It took the 1st year to get me really interested in the story line but enjoyed watching the the western history unfold. By this year I was pleased to see Lilly and Cullen heal each others broken hearts and slowly start building a life together. Why did they have to kill off Lilly? Hasn't poor Cullen suffered enough?
Haven't we suffered enough? I hope this was just a very bad dream. If not, I'm off the train.
October 16th, 2012 8:27 PM
There is something not right about this episode. When Cullen is being questioned he asked where Durant was, when he clearly saw he was still around after the "death" of Lily. That pretty much tells you that one way or other she isn't dead. Most likely the "story" we see is something told by Cullen to the people questioning him. Maybe he lied about Lily's death so he could more easily assume control of the railroad. Lily said herself the board back east would never let her run it, so I reckon there is something there. ALTERNATIVELY, if the show is cancelled, the death of Lily is a sort of fitting end to the show.
October 16th, 2012 5:35 PM
I agree Bring Lily back!!! Kess48
October 16th, 2012 4:15 PM
Strangle victims have been known to be revived.....
October 16th, 2012 12:24 PM
I love this show!! But if Lily is gone I probably am to.
October 16th, 2012 10:52 AM
i want Lily to be revived ....I think she might be since she was not buried and laid on the table atthe church...bring Lily back
October 16th, 2012 10:48 AM
I think the appropritae call is that when Cullen left Lilly at the Church, a faint pulse was found by the young minister, and she was revived.............I love this show............but this ripped my guts out...........Don't need to soap it up with a twin sister............just bring her back from the brink.................hell, they brought back Mr. tool after being shot in the mouth!!!!!!!!!
October 16th, 2012 8:58 AM
To all those that claim they will not watch if Lily is dead you need to curl up with your cats, have a cup of tea and read romance novels. This show is not for you.
Life was hard then. People died. Nasty deeds were done. That's just the reality of it all, and I personally think the writers have done an excellent job of portraying it. No one likes to lose a beloved character, but hey, that's the way it was.
I will continue to watch for as long as the show airs, and I hope it keeps delivering the gut wrenching story of what it could have been like living in a railroad camp. Well done.
October 16th, 2012 2:58 AM
Ugh, Lily better not be dead, i doubt she is, the writers cannot be that dense, and if they are they must have something even more intriguing/amazing up their sleeves. But Lily was the greatest counterpart to Cullen. She is probably still breathing and is still alive, I'm living onthat hope for now.
October 16th, 2012 2:06 AM
I don't think Lily is dead because if you look closely as the camera panned at her, there was a pulse by her neck, hence Cullen made that slight reaction to his face...the kind that he can't believe that she's alive. That's why he took her to Ruth because how can a guy at that time take care of a woman who is not his wife, another woman would be appropriate in taking care of her. Plus if she's dead, he would have really be so mad at the Swede, he was reserved because he does not want to let him know that she's actually alive.
October 15th, 2012 8:17 PM
If Mr. O'Toole came back from being shot in the mouth by Elam then the writers need to find a way to bring LILY back!!!
October 15th, 2012 1:54 PM
Killing off Lily RUINED the show for both me and my wife, we are both still furious days later, it served no purpose and as a matter of fact it destroyed all the groundwork that was laid in the previous two seasons, especially in the brutal dispicable manner with which she was dispatched, by a character whose brains Bohannon should have blown out ten times already, it's almost ridiculous to believe that Bohannon can euthanise his best friend yet would continue to let a man as knowingly evil and cunning as the Swede live time after time. He already lost his wife and kid and hasn't finished his quest for vengeance for them, now they kill off his chance for redemption and love, there is only so much a man can take before he would just snap and not care about anything anymore. I won't be watching season 3, I'm sick of these writers thinking they are so clever,I'm getting flashbacks of "Prison Break" ,another show that was ruined for us by the nihilist writers.
October 15th, 2012 1:24 PM
I don't think Lily is dead because Bohannon brought her to Ruth because he knew she would pray for Lily's healing.
October 15th, 2012 1:13 PM
Great show and will miss if does not return. Writers made big mistake with swede's brutal killing of the guard. Killing off Lily mskes no sense at all. She and Cullen are the mainstays of the show.
Bring back the show and Lily
October 15th, 2012 12:12 PM
Personally, I felt as though I had lost a member of my family last night when Lily died. I, for one, will NOT be watching a Season 3 unless they can find a way to resurrect her. I agree that the writers need to remember Dallas and see what they can creatively come up with!
October 15th, 2012 7:38 AM
I just want to make a clarification: It is not because I am a woman I was disturbed with this finale. I do not need romance in the plot to watch a show or movie. It was the way it happened, and its lack of purpose, other than to pretend that this is a serious series "not for sissies..." It was also my feminist (not my "feminine") self that protested the brutal killing of a strong female lead who challenged gender stereotypes.
October 15th, 2012 1:01 AM
Of course, that's if there is a season 3 and if Lily Bell is actually dead. And I worded the last part of my last post wrong but I think people get the point.
October 15th, 2012 12:52 AM
I agree tyler. I've talked to so many people who won't be watching next season if Lily is dead. Between friends, University, and work I must have talked with at least 30+ women over the week who felt that way. Just looking at the comments here you can tell that a lot of women watch the show, and that both men and women have really grown attached to the character. I read a review or something where the writer wrote "this isn't a soap opera."(he even quoted some of the responses here) And while that is true, to potentially alienate a large portion of your fan base in an incredibly stupid move. Adding that to the people who quit watching throughout the season, there's a good chance AMC may have dug their own grave.
October 14th, 2012 11:48 PM
Is AMC really willing to sacrifice half their viewers to kill off Lilly? Surely they will lose any female viewers they had. Besides that they will lose a ton of guys because she was the only attractive character on the show. Rethink your decision AMC.
Rank: Extra
October 14th, 2012 9:09 PM
Caso haja realmente uma terceira temporada, que espero ardentemente, a morte da Lily pode abrir um espaço para o Cullen voltar ao seu objetivo original, que ficou meio perdido, vingar a morte de sua família. Tá eu também concordo que a morte de Lily foi demais, mas não haveria possibilidade caso ela vivesse, pois ele foi explícito quando disse " só tenho meu emprego e você", ai que lindo!, mas eu ainda acredito que foi melhor assim. O Cullen no original, vingativo e feroz dá mais opções caso tenha mais uma temporada. Caso ele fique na construção da ferrovia, teremos um problema, então...... Sei lá. Só quero a tenha uma 3ª temporada, ficar sem o Cullen... nem pensar. Ele foi o melhor personagem que criaram nos últimos tempos, estava cheia de meninos e vampiros.
October 14th, 2012 9:04 PM
This was one of my favorite shows but killing Lily after all she and Cullen have been through is just crazy!!!!! If she doesn't return I will find another show where the writers are smart enough not to kill the best part of the show! Geeeezzz!
October 14th, 2012 5:19 PM
I hope to god that Cullen would have been just telling the government that Lily is dead. But she really isn't. It was so sad. I hope to god there is another season. HELL ON WHEELS!
October 14th, 2012 5:09 PM
This is one of those finales that you think about days after it's over. I can't believe Lily is dead! She was such a great character. I'm thinking thats it's going to be like the famous Dallas finale where Bobby dies and then in the following season we find out that it was just a bad dream. Who's Bohannon's love interest supposed to be now, one of the whores?
October 14th, 2012 4:57 PM
RETARDED and disgusting finale plot and ending. Seriously? I hadn't realized the Swede is Freddy Cruger or Jason, die-hard and superhumanly powerful. Give me a break. I am SO NOT watching a third season, which is sad because I did like all the actors. But to kill the gogetter female lead, and kill her in such fashion, uhm, no. Big faux pas. Someone else said they had nightmares after it. So did I. I thought this show being on AMC meant that it could avoid sensationalism and purposless violence but I guess I was wrong
October 14th, 2012 3:20 PM
I do not thinking lilly is dead...no way.
October 14th, 2012 2:00 PM
It took the 1st year to get me really interested in the story line but enjoyed watching the the western history unfold. By this year I was pleased to see Lilly and Cullen heal each others broken hearts and slowly start building a life together. Why did they have to kill off Lilly? Hasn't poor Cullen suffered enough?
Haven't we suffered enough? I hope this was just a very bad dream. If not, I'm off the train.